If you had your own country, what kinds of weapons would it's armed forces have at their disposal? What about vehicles and aircraft? For example, a list of firearms used by Astrachian Armed Forces:
Sidearms
>Beretta 92FS (Army and Navy)
>Colt 1911 (Marine Corps)
>Sig P226 (Air force, in experimental use for fighter pilots)
>H&K USP (.45 for Special Forces, .40 S&W used by Federal Guard)
Assault/Battle rifles
>M16 (A3 by Army and Navy, with A1 handguards, stocks and upper receivers by Air force, A4 by Marine Corps)
>FN SCAR (-H with Army, -L in small numbers with Marine Corps, in experimental phase)
>MK14 (Battle rifle/DMR multi-role, all branches)
>SA80 (L85 and L86 variants used by Paratrooper Specialists)
PDWs
>MP5 (A2 & K variants, all branches)
>H&K UMP (.45 ACP in limited service in Marine Corps, 9mm in experimental use in Army)
>PP-2000 (experimental use in Air Force, to be issued for fighter pilots)
Machine Guns
>M60 (Base model in the army, E4 in infantry use Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force, occasionally mounted on the side of helicopters)
>FN Minimi (Experimental squad-level use in the Marine Corps, should eventually replace the M60)
>FN MAG (Limited infantry use in the Army, mounted on vehicles coaxially or on top for infantry usage if necessary)
>M2 Browning (mounted on top of vehicles)
>M134 Minigun (Mounted on the sides of helicopters)
DMR/Sniper rifles
>Reminton 700 (Standard issue, looks vary according to branch)
>SR25 (Medium-range DMR, used by the Army and the Navy)
>SVD (Long-range DMR, select use by Marine Corps lone snipers)
>Barrett M82 (Used by Navy)
>Barrett M98B (Experimental use by Marine Corps)
Shotguns
>Remington 870 MCS (Standard issue)
>Benelli M4 (Limited used by Marine Corps)
Explosive ordnance/other equipment
>M203 (Standard issue, planned to be replaced by M320 in the future)
>RPG-7V2 (Standard issue)
>SA-18 (Used by the Army)
>DH-5 fragmentation grenade (Local variation of the M67)
>>29451209
Is this absolute clusterfuck indicative of the logistics of the whole armed forces?
Like 7 different chassis for APCs, 8 different models of truck, 40 different ration menus...
God damn this is full autist.
modernized battleship with 9 x 18 inch guns.
Can you fuck off back to nation states, faggot?
>>29451209
Hey I like your troll buddy, mind if I copy its content and post it repeatedly?
>>29451209
Primary infantry loadout out along with uniform and armor
Machine guns
>Chauchat
Shotguns
>Cobray Terminator
Explosive ordnance
>Gen 1 Glocks
No snipers or DMRs, they're coward's weapons.
>>29451209
Not this stupid bullshit again. If you're going to make these threads, you should at least take advice from other anons about how fucked your supply chain would be.
>>29451279
Here's some detail about vehicles
Armour
>BM-85 (Locally made, standard MBT)
>BM-88 (Locally made, experimental MBT, with a smoothbore cannon opposed to BM-85s rifled one)
>AJ-57 (Local variation of the BTR-80, fitted with a 25mm cannon)
>LAV-25 (In experimental phase, designated AJ-25. AA variation is also experimented on)
>>29451308
No.
>>29451321
I would, if I got the advice from an actual expert on these things
>>29451209
You are a fucking retard. For example, why the fuck would you adopt all those similar sniper rifles but in different cartridges?
Or an L85 and 4 other 5.56 guns with no parts compatability? A1 handguards? For what reason other than you think they look better than a KAC RIS or superior A2 handguards?
>>29451341
Give us a working definition of expert.
>>29451318
>This would probably beat OP's country's armed forces
>>29451341
> in experimental phase
Why do you keep saying that, fuck face? Is your faggy nation states pretend army going to adopt it in the next thread?
>>29451341
Kill yourself, my man.
t. Logistics Expert
>>29451209
Navuoo Legion reporting in
>>29451349
A1 handguards, stocks and receivers were transferred to the Air Force arsenal, because it was more cost-efficient, not having to buy KAC RIS or A2 handguards for every single branch. The L85's were adopted for specialsed usage, and remain in use until we run out of parts for them/find a replacement.
>>29451353
Someone like Larry Vickers, perhaps?
>>29451370
Can you prove your expertise?
>>29451209
How developed is said imaginery nation?
Anyway
>sidearms
Sig p226
Mk23
>Assault/battle rifles
Ak 107
FN scar H
>PDWs
Mp5k
Bizon
>Machine guns
PkP
>DMR
V I N T O R E Z
>Shotguns
Ks 23
Basically slav shit with some exceptions
We need to email hiroshimoot about this fucker since the mods aren't picking up on the shitposting.
>>29451451
I believe the preferred nomenclature for him is "An Hiro."
Assault rifles:
>G36
>G11
>ACR (6.8)
>Tar 21
Battle Rifles:
>SCAR-H
>M14
>FAL
Sniper rifles:
>Intervention
>L96
>Barret .50
Pistols:
>M1911
>Desert Eagle
>S&W M. 29
>Beretta 93R
SMGs:
>UMP45
>Bizon
>Uzi
>AKS-74u
MGs:
>M60
>L86 LSW
>Stoner63
>MK46
Shotguns:
>AA12
>SPAS-12
>DP-12
>Pancor Jackhammer
I dunno much about ordnance but give everyone some of those 1:25000 OS maps those are great.
>>29451435
Pretty average, not on U.S levels, but definitely not like any African country.
>>29451425
You fucking moronic twink. It's cost effective to use a inferior and more costly handguard and waste man hours and money converting rifles, but you would buy more expensive, heavier and inferior L85 rifles because it's your favorite gun from call of duty, right? Kill yourself my man.
>>29451499
The A1 was at one point used by all branches, and when Army and Navy adoped the A3, the remaining A1 parts were accepted by the Air Force. This happened in late 2000's, when the SA80's were already in the arsenal for 10 years. They were bought in the 90's to be an option for M16's or M4's just for the bullpup design
>>29451279
Honestly I want to see autistic stuff related to training regimens, not weapons. I'm fascinated by that kind of thing.
>>29451547
> over ten years of fan fiction for his shitty nation states RP forums.
> Keeping A1, Buying three new brands of rifle, still not replacing everything with one carbine, no reason to buy a L85 when cheaper and superior bullpup designs have been available for over 40 years.
You have reached maximum gay. Congrats.
>>29451611
Keep homophobia on >>>/pol/ please.
>>29451611
Oh I have thought of more history than just ten years, and none of it is in any forum
And might I add, the SA80 is also used in a similar purpose the Finnish Special Jaegers use the SCAR-L: to better work with our allies (in our case, the British)
>>29451627
Fucking faggot go back to /arg/
>>29451652
Yeah faggot because you can't work alongside another military unless you use their exact weapons. Must be why no one who works alongside Britfaggots IRL use L85s or why no one near Finland uses Valmets.
> but the homos at the SAS use M16s for that reason!
no, its because the L85 is utter trash. Lefties cant even use it unlike the AUG, FAMAS and Tavor. Even the T95 spits it's brass in an arc that allows left handed use.
>>29451711
Agreed, also witnessed.
>>29451754
The SA80 entered trials alongside AUG and FAMAS, and got better reviews, though AUG was a strong contestant. These things greatly depend on the person using them
>>29451341
Nobody likes your gay bullshit.
Are you the same guy who's been turning ak into a general? That seems like something you'd do
>>29451209
Kill yourself.
>>29451754
>no, its because the L85 is utter trash
Kill yourself.
>>29451877
I have no idea who you're talking about
>>29451879
This is why I don't take advice from here
>>29451209
>>29451903
Then why are you making these shitty, repetitive threads.
Nobody fucking likes you, that's been proven multiple times, And apparently you don't get anything from shitting up the website. So fuck off
>>29451951
Because I don't care if I'm liked or not, I only want to see what other people would pick for their arsenals, something I've explained multiple times by now
>>29451879
Asshurt no guns bong detected. Tell us how great the worse in service bullpup rifle is. Tell us how even though it's a over weighted block of trash that can't even be fired left handed, its a good rifle because HK slapped some parts on it.
>>29451977
Nobody fucking replies with what they'd use, they just criticize your retarded 13 year old ass.
I want you to know that the only reason you haven't been banned yet is because 90% of the moderators have literally left 4chan.
>>29451837
> got better reviews
Fucking how? Did your pretend army love a heavier gun with poor ergos and reliability issues that cost more than it's competition while having no current production, thus increasing unit cost and requiring an entire production line to be built from the ground up? Try learning a thing or two about guns before your write this bullshit, faggot.
>>29452065
Like I said, these things depend on the soldier. Maybe they didn't like the Swarovski scope, maybe they didn't like the grips, or something else just meaningful. They just liked the SA80 better
>>29452119
>they just liked the SA80 better
That's not how military trials work fucknut.
>>29452119
Right, right, they liked the way it jammed.
Be honest, you only like it because it's from a video game
>>29452150
Of course it is. He's never actually been near a real firearm. Probably some autistic eurocuck or canadian.
>>29452008
You don't have to be a bong to call you retarded, but I'm not sure what your point is anyway.
But the A2 upgrades are a very real thing which fixed all the meme issues of the rifle and who fixed it is totally beside the point.
>>29451209
Nigga you need to start setting a budget and talking size of the force when you do these things, then you might get more people to play along. Maybe phrase it as "Say you have a country of your own preferred terrain and demographics, with a force of X people and Y budget... what get?"
Otherwise, you're just asking for, at best, a list of weapons you and others think are cool/practical, without consideration to even the basics of procurement.
>At worst, the hassle you always get when posting these threads.
>>29452249
> they fixed everything!
No they didn't. It still can't be fired left handed and weighs more than its counterparts. Not to mention it still uses plastics in some parts. Fuck off no guns, bong.
>>29451547
>The A1 was at one point used by all branches, and when Army and Navy adoped the A3
No such thing as the L85a3 you dumb turd.
>>29452511
I'm talking about the M16A1 and A3, dumb turd
>>29451209
So you claim to be a US ally? I'll bet your countries president is like a French-Canadian version of Manuel Noriega. The CIA planted your incompetent president, but this time they could care less about overthrowing him because his regime is collapsing from mismanagement anyway.
>>29452532
>The M16A3 is a select-fire variant of the M16A2 adopted in small numbers around the time of the introduction of the M16A2, primarily by the U.S. Navy for use by SEAL, Seabee, and Security units.[161] It features the M16A1 trigger group providing "safe", "semi-automatic", and "fully automatic" modes.
No, you are the thick turd for choosing a weapon that barely used by anyone due to the numbers, those units adopted the M4 ASAP.
>>29452413
Fuck off faggass, who are you quoting?
Because I didn't say that.
>Continued testing of the L85A2 in adverse conditions demonstrates its reliability over contemporary rifles, including the M16. Although it is heavier than most conventional and more modern bullpup rifles, its full-length barrel gives higher muzzle velocities and better terminal performance than both the M4 and the M16. Rounds from an M4 will only reliably fragment out to 50–100 metres, while the L85A2 and M16 allowed fragmentation out to 150–200 metres, and the L86A2 has an even longer fragmentation range.
>>29452542
Yes, we're allies with the U.S, and no, we're not a dictatorship like Noriega's Panama.
>>29452575
We just started making the new upper receivers with picatinny rails, alongside new handguards. After all, our production is localised to some extent
>>29452590
Couldn't have said it better myself, to be honest
>>29452613
The Federation of Astrachia is NOT a dictatorship!
We have a prosperous, vibrant economy!
We have a strong military!
Do NOT believe the anti-Astrachian, 4chan lies!
>>29452590
T. Call of duty wiki. If it's so great why does SAS and nobody besides regular bongs use it?
>>29452629
Yeah it's totally sick in the video games bro. Try using a gun irl in your life.
>>29452680
To be honest, that was pretty funny.
>>29452686
Call of duty doesn't bother with that level of detail, you know
>>29452734
And neither does your shit RP for nation states
>>29452753
Oh I think of these things in more detail than you realize
>>29452766
Its all poorly written, to be honest. You should kill yourself my man.
>>29452788
Well, writing is not my forte. And how is that a reason for me to kill myself, not being good at writing stuff on the internet?
>ITT: How to ground a dead horse into hamburger meat, using nothing but your bare hands and your head.
Once was enough, OP. Once was goddamn enough.
>>29452766
>Oh I think of these things in more detail than you realize
Get a real fucking hobby, even basket weaving would be more productive.
>>29452818
Or at least change it up a bit, or add more detail.
Otherwise it's just a spergy list of "wouldn't-it-be-cool" vveapons.
And yeah, not every couple days. That's too much. Even people who like these kind of things will get bored.
My country's military is composed entirely of C93 skellingtons
Assault/Battle rifles
>C93
Machine Guns
>C93 w/ bipod
DMR/Sniper rifles
>C93 w/ bipod & scope
>>29451209
Infantry would be comprised entirely of flamethrowers
>>29452841
I have other hobbies, this is for when I have absolutely nothing better to do.
>>29452898
>this is for when I have absolutely nothing better to do.
You poor bastard, go for a run or something at least you will get some benefits from it.
>>29452920
But he already gets "benefits" from his fictional country's welfare programs, which is contributing to its economic collapse.
>>29452920
Jogging is actually one of the hobbies besides this, just so you know
>>29452934
I'm not delusional, just so you know
well ill try a different approach
I Figure if i can find a .308 to do most field functions well, Then I will be happy with that.
Sidearm would be .45 seems to have worked well enough for most
Shot gun would be 12g because why wouldn't it.
3 ammo types that's it
my mythical country innawoodsstan would not have many roads so armor and rapid transit would be limited. instead ill Issue anti tank weapons to all units.
we would though have unending supplies of field motors hidden everywhere with ammo. our biggest defense though would be the fact that come on honestly guys who would want to invade innawoodssatn
>>29452766
No you fucking don't you pompous retard
>>29453015
>more than you realize
What part of that you didn't get?
>>29453028
Your nation is by rights worse than India in terms of military.
So unless you're trying hard to make things worse, you're doing a miserable job.
>>29452972
>Not 10ga and exclusively lever action
>>29451209
Allright.
>Sidearm:
-Strike One pistol in 9x21mm gyurza instead of 9x21mm IMI.
>Assault Rifle/Battle Rifle:
-AK-12 in 5.45/7.62x39 and x54r for the Battle Rifle mod.
>PDW:
-SR-2M (9x21mm gyurza).
>Machine Gun:
-PKP (7.62x54r).
-Kord (12.7x108).
-KPV (14.5x114).
>DMR/Sniper Rifle:
-SVD (7.62x54r).
-SVDK (9.3x64).
-ASVK (Variant of the KSVK) (12.7x108).
>Shotgun:
-Vepr-12 modification based on the AK-12 platform (12 gauge).
>EO/Other Equipment:
-GP-34 (grenade launcher) (40mm).
-RPG-29 (105mm).
-RPG-30 (105mm).
-RPG-28 (125mm).
-Kornet-M ATGM (152mm).
-RPO-M + MGK "Bur" (Thermobaric) (90/62mm).
-AGS-30 grenade machine launcher.
-GM-94 grenade launcher.
-RGN + RGO grenades
-Verba manpad (SAM).
That about covers it.
Free and last bump for OP.
>>29453335
Kill yourself, slavaboo.
>>29453432
You seem upset.
Ideally my own country would be known as Dumb Fuckistan.
So here's the rag shit get up:
Branches:
Dumb Fuckistanni Infantry of Ground
Dumb Fuckistanni Sea Corps
Dumb Fuckistanni Air Militia
Dumb Fuckistanni Royal Guard*
* Royal guard being in charge of our glorious dictator's health and safety.
Service Pistols:
Browning Hi-power (All branches)
Sig P238 (Limited use in DF Air Militia)
Ruger New Vaquero (Limited use Royal Guard)
Rifle of Service:
Select-fire 0A93 AR Variant (bufferless design)
Ak-74 side folder (Royal Guard)
Guns of Machine:
M249 U,S, Surplus Minimi (All Branches)
RPK-74 (Royal Guard)
Browning M2 (All branches)
Rifles of Range:
Swiss k31 (All Branches)
Mauser K98 (All Branches)
Scatterguns:
Benelli M4 (All Branches)
Mossberga 590 (All branches)
Muzzleload Matchlock blunderbuss (Royal Guard)
Explosives:
M26 grenade (All Branches)
RPG (All branches)
>>29453686
High lel.
>>29451209
>G17
>M4
>M249
>M2
>MP7
>M82
>M24
>590A1
>>29453988
>6 different cartriges
Lol.
Try this:
>PS90
>P90
>5-7
>Artillery that fires a load of 5.7x28mms at once
>>29451209
>having four different sidearms, one of which is stocked in two different fucking calibers
>SR25 Medium-range
>SVD Long-range
???
>>29451209
>Sidearms
Obrez
>Battle rifle
Nugget
>PDW
Nugget Carbine
>Machine Guns
Nuggets stacked on a tray
>DMR
Nugget with a scope
>Shotgun
Two nuggets ducktaped together
>>29458166
Stop fucking necrobumping with no content you piece of shit
