What do $100 Magpul BUS offer that these $20 Sniper flip ups don't?
Quality
They work.
>>29415647
quality
>>29415647
i have a sniper rear and it works
>>29415647
Mall Ninja marketing that makes you overlook the KAC drum sights on Ebay for $60.
>>29415647
The magpull logo.
Magpull has been pawning overpriced plastic onto idiots for the last 10 years, people eat it up.
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>>29415662
I came here to post this
>>29415647
Magpul made the only set of BUIS that I have ever had break in normal use. I just buy cheap aluminum ones now.
>>29415677
Aren't those stolen or something?
>>29415735
"stolen" is what KAC will use but in reality the armory doesnt take em back from the marines so they just keep em
>>29415660
>>29415662
>>29415695
So a meaningless unproven buzzword?
can anyone recommend decent not magpul BUIS? I see a bunch out there but they all look like airshit chinese crap
>>29415776
KAC
MBUS work fine, if you plan on beating on your rifle you might want something a bit more sturdy but otherwise all you're paying for is gucci factor
>>29415781
I'm looking for a front and back set, not just a rear sight a former marine heroin junkie stole from the armory
>>29415805
>otherwise all you're paying for is gucci factor
wrong
>>29415812
nice counterpoint
>>29415848
>anything other than plastic irons is paying for gucci
that is wrong. if you said mbus pro's i might agree
I went with a Troy rear battle sight.
Pretty happy with it.
It can flop around on my back and rub up against my chest rig molle with a sling, not move and it's secured with locktite.
Paid 85$ shipped.
>>29415884
troys are butthole ugly imo
>>29415859
I'm saying MBUS are durable enough for 95% of shooters, and they will take abuse quite well.
>>29415896
I agree, but it was a toss up to fit with my Holosun.
And I decided against the Mbuis pro and plastic after trying my friends.
I really kinda wanted a Rock river or DD fixed site to mimic carry handle irons.
Troy was a good compromise, I like how it looks behind it and not from the side.
>>29415647
i prefer to push down on the magpul ledge, than to push away from the site. easier for me to manipulate. also the magpuls sit lower.
>>29415647
memes
>>29415758
>Quality is a buzzword
Are you actually fucking retarded or do you just own shit gear and don't want to admit it?
>>29415809
KAC makes a front sight, dummy
>>29416350
okay, how about a set of BUIS that don't cost 300 fucking dollars?
>>29416410
mbus pro
Better QC and sturdier materials? Why are poorfags so dense?
>>29415776
Bobro's are coool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Y_6rdqC_g
you guys realize that KACs sell for like 120 right? there's none that go lower than that and can flip.
>>29416605
I question the durability of that design, and why they didn't secure the flip up with two attachment points.
>>29415668
why is your rear sight not all the way rear? that just looks... wrong
>>29415647
The ability to hold zero.
>>29417369
this. sniper brand can't hold zero for shit.
>>29415668
what the fuck is up with your sights
>>29415756
kac got all butt hurt that the sights they planned on selling to the civilian marker for well above 150 got flooded with usmc issued ones and drop the price. Kac makes some nice products but its all just marketing nothing they make actually cost any where close to the cost of manufacturing
>>29415647
Nothing.
>Hurrr is bester
>No. Its just name brand.
>>29418020
Also...I paid a total of $20 for flip up front and rear from some unheard of brand trying to get off the ground.
Solid built
Steel
Flip up with force
Hold zero
>>29415776
YHM
>>29416878
Because they're back up iron sights. True back ups. Why spend more weight and bulk on a redundancy item than you need to?
>>29418746
Because if one side of a Magpul or other dual supported sight is slightly messed up, the other side will still hold it more or less in place. If that single sided shit gets tweaked just a bit, then the whole system is off in two axes.
That's like asking why aren't single sided swingarms more common on motorcycles.
>>29418900
I thought about just this when I made my post above. However, single side swing arms have been proven capable of taking a strain that is many times greater than what the motorcycle frame can handle. The failures are usually in the wheel bearing.
If I have a quality optic, and am not planning on going into a warzone, does having BUIS really matter?
Or is this some retarded AR fanboy thing?
>>29418070
WHEERRRREEEE
>>29417639
its funny desu
>>29415647
Because brand name. Seriously go on ebay and you can get a set of magpul sights for 20 bucks.
>>29418956
But in order to do that, it needs to be overbuilt and comparatively complicated. In the end you don't have any lighter of a bike, it just looks cool.
As you can see from the pictures of the sight, the hinge is not beefed up, and it is lighter than it would be if there were two sides.
Has anyone got experience with the Ruger backups? They seem nicer than the magpuls.
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>Hey man, should I get some sights from a proven company for $80? Maybe even a KAC surplus rear for $60?
>Nah senpai, get these shitheaps from noname chink companies for $20, totes G2G yo
The poverty in this thread is real.
>>29419000
Necessary? No, not strictly. If you want to hedge against the optic breaking or running out of batteries they work. I personally have two, one shorty with a Troy, one 20in AR with MaTech. Both with fixed FSBs. They'll work until I have optics money and then they'll play back up to the optics. You can get a KAC, a MaTech or similar on ebay used for 50-60 bucks. If you're running a flat top it's that or a carry handle for a rear and with a BUIS (or a DD fixed rear for that matter) it's much easier to throw glass on.
>>29419687
that's why I think it's a poor design. Given how thin the hinge arm is, I'd overdesign, or at least attach it on both sides.
>>29419969
There's actually a reason the hinge is only on one side, the prototypes had a spring loaded locking button on the other side which was apparently omitted from the final production design. I'm not sure why, but you can see it on their earlier photos.
Still, they are literally the lowest profile BUIS, and the lightest that isn't MFT's shit plastic offering. If someone wants a more durable BUIS, there is literally every other metal BUIS on the market fulfilling that market. It's designed to suit a different philosophy.
These aren't even the most autistically ounce saving BUIS I've seen. There was a prototype on lightfighter that was comprised of a 1.5" long foldable 3mm diameter spring coil as the front sight, and a sticker applied to the back of an Aimpoint T1 to use the T1 body as a rear ghost ring. Now that shit was probably more durable than anything too, seeing as it could be recessed entirely into the rail, and flex to avoid damage.
How can I insert tritium on my rear sight? Id like a true nightsight solution that doesnt involve just a tritium front post
>Order from Magpul
>Item is broken upon delivery
>Call Magpul
>No one answers the phone
>Play five league of legends games while on hold
>Call every extension for their number
>Same thing, no one ever picks up
>Try again next day
>Same thing
>Send email
>Get a response exactly 8 days later
>Ends up taking almost a month just to get a replacement
>Replacement looks like it was a used return
>Get a refund
Why do people still order from this company
>>29420338
At their magazines are decent. I'm not an AR fag so I've never bought anything else from them.
>>29415660
>magpul
>quality
pick neither
>>29419150
Amazon. They were prime
>>29415805
More sturdy? I don't even like Magpul, but I remember a test some guy did testing the sturdiness of various rear sights, and the MBUS was far sturdier than Troy and another metal sight (Diamond-something? I think?). When dropped onto concrete it only shifted 1 MOA while the Troy was off by 6 and the other metal one by 10+. A second identical drop on the MBUS didn't give it further shift, and he had to double the height of drop to actually get it to fail.
Like I said, not a Magpul fan, but after I saw that I decided that the MBUS at least was not a bad choice as far as SHTF backup sights go.
>>29415776
Got some knock-off Troy sights on Amazon for $30 over a year ago. Called Tac-Force or some faggy sounding brand, but they work great. Held zero since the day I sighted them in, and I shoot a lot. If you pay more than $50 for iron sights you're getting cucked.
>>29423562
>Held zero since the day I sighted them in, and I shoot a lot
I bought a bushnell trs25 for my ar15 and if you're paying more than $100 for a red dot on any gun, you're getting cucked ;)
>buys knock off troys
>has the gall to call others cucks
>>29423593
>irons and red dots are different
Iron sights are basic non-complicated equipment. If a set of sights is just as good as another set that costs 4x as much, then whoever is paying a premium for those basic iron sights is a cuck because muh brand name. Cheap knock off ftw.
>>29423672
>who are you quoting
I can buy airsoft irons and act like a smug cunt all day when they don't lose zero or break when I take them out to a square range and shoot from benchrest 100% of the time too
I'm about to order some irons too. I want some flippy ones that won't snap and will hold a zero. What do I get?
>>29419000
Plenty of people have not run BUIS with optics. Assuming your sight works even if the battery is dead and holds up to a reasonable jostle, you'll be fine.
If you're running a scope, you might not even have enough clearance for the rear BUIS anyway.
>>29423562
Good man for not buying genuine Troy sights.
>>29420338
>buying shit because the name "magpul" made your mall ninja senses tingle
>getting what you deserve
That's why.
>>29417639
MATECH backup irons all the way.
>>29415647
repeatable zero
