SSA worth it?
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>>29390461
Yes. I got the SSA-E.
Crutch for people who can't shoot
>>29390461
are you shooting 800m+? with a 24" bull varmint loadouts and $3k glass?
if not, just buy a quality lpk by Colt, LMT, CMT, or CMMG and polish all contact surfaces lightly with a cloth wheel dremel and simichrome.
anyone else on here that tells you otherwise is full of shit.
>>29390937
Shoot people for who can't crutch.
Yes, I have an SSA-E it's the best trigger possible
>>29390937
>not swapping your AR trigger for a 30lb pull with unknown break point and 3 inch reset
I purposefully make my guns no fun to shoot because that makes me a better shot.
>>29390461
i ordered the "Hi-Speed National Match - Match Rifle Trigger"
haven't got it in the mail yet.
anyone ever try one?
>>29390968
People who can't crutch for shoot.
>>29390984
They're good, but go easy on the adjustments, they're meant for people who know what they're doing for competition shooting, you shouldn't really need it, but it won't disappoint.
>>29390461
Having spent years firing milspec triggers for tens of thousands of rounds the SSA-E is the best thing to happen to AR triggers.
Id give all those shots back just to take a quarter of them with the giessele.
>>29391013
this
I was honestly thinking about transplanting my geissele SSA-E into my M4 for a deployment but I didn't end up doing it because it couldn't be function checked for the burst sear.
>>29390461
Yes, it takes trigger pull inconsistency out of the equation so I can focus less on that and more on other things.
>>29390877
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>>29391013
>>29391044
so skip the ssa and go straight for the ssa-e?
>>29392014
If you can afford it, yeah. The SSA-E is really nice.
>>29392014
Could also get the sd-e, for extra tactical. Though I can't say it's any better than a curved trigger bow, just different. I like it.
>S3G trigger is failing to reset sometimes
>mfw
>>29392014
I'm not sure what the difference is between the SSA and SSAE, but I really like my SSAE.
Got a SD-C.
Life just seems better with it.
I have a pretty good brake on my rifle, and when I switched to the ssa-e, I ended up riding the break point like you would on a normal mushy milspec trigger, except since the break was so much crisper and the reset shorter, it ended up doing 3-4 rounds of very rapid bump-fire every time. Got me a few looks from people at the range. I find I have to pull the trigger more firmly than a milspec one, because the brake provides enough recoil reduction to make bump-fire from the shoulder very easy. Anyone else notice this?
>>29392232
I've done that with my S3G and it did a 3 round burst until the trigger failed to reset (see >>29392087). Have you had that issue where it doesn't reset?
>>29392251
Nope, never had that issue yet.
>>29392251
I should note that I also have a pretty aggressive brake on there (recoil reduction of the omega suppressor is even more so...)
>>29392267
Alright, thanks for the input. I sent Geissele an email describing the issue. I'm hoping they'll let me swap out the S3G for an SSA-E.
>>29392278
you should let us know how they handle your issue in the AR general thread. I'm curious how bro tier their customer service is.
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>>29390937
Poor people should be shot.
>>29392139
The SSA is almost identical to the SSA-E but they took some weight off the second stage to make the break more crisp.
>>29394760
Will do. I haven't heard back from them, but for paying ~$250 for a MIM trigger, I'd expect them to have good customer service.
>>29390937
I've done my time on heavy single stage milspec. I can spend my money and have a more pleasant shooting experience if I please. Not so much crutches as wearing running shoes to run instead of boots.
>>29390959
I did that. I have a 14.5 carbine. I shoot with a red dot. I still love my ssa-e
>>29391044
They make a selectfire trigger at gessielle
Would they sell it to you? I dunno
>>29392139
About a pound of pull
SSA is 4.5
SSA-e 3.5
I think I'd enjoy the regular. There's a bit more of a "comfort zone" with a little extra weight.
But I bought the ssa-e, and adjusted my trigger squeeze
>>29392251
Never had that issue. God of muar in /arg/ has the same trigger as you, ask there
>>29390461
>2 stage trigger
You have to be a literal retard to spend that much on a garbage trigger
>>29398395
Why
are the bolt carrier group, barrel, and trigger the most important components to not skimp out on? what's a good barrel? i might get a cryptic BCG with a jizzele trigger.
>>29399309
i would say barrel and trigger are more important than BCG. when shopping for a barrel reviews will typically give you an idea of what people get out of them.
>>29398395
Not everyone dreams of operating on 2 legged animals at close quarters, anon. Some of us need to remove carnivore or even-toed ungulate at distance.
>>29399309
I've yet to understand the "improved" BCG outside of cosmetic enhancements. Stoner's gas system is already more than reliable enough for sporting use, and I'm not aware of any in-spec bolts negatively affecting accuracy.
Can someone explain this to me?
>>29399478
>i would say barrel and trigger are more important than BCG
>trigger
>more important than bcg
>>29390461
based Geissele. You will like it and never want to go back to stock triggers.
>>29399693
10 years ago a shit bcg would cause reliability issues. These days, not so much.
Accuracy comes down to barrel, trigger pull (good triggers make this punch and pie), and a quality sighting method that lets you be sure what your actually pouring your rifle at.
I like quality BCGs. Hell, I use LMT enhanced because I don't like breaking bolts. But BCGs affect accuracy.
>>29399715
BCG have a much higher slope of diminishing returns than triggers.
>>29399715
You're either bored or Australian. There's a reason every hunting rifle in existence has a 3-4lbs (1.35-2.1kg) pull. It's not the bolt that's pulling your shots down towards you trigger hand.
>>29399768
how does the cryptic bolt compare to the LMT? is it worth just getting the carrier w/key?
>>29400215
LMT is stronger.
Cryptic has shiny finish. It's easy to clean less friction
>>29399665
You'd be much better served to use a decent single stage
A 2 stage is manually adding extra take up, something you're trying to REMOVE in a trigger
>>29400852
you're an idiot. do you not realize that consistency is more important than speed? a single stage would be impossible to retain a precise threshold with. this is about break up, not take up. you're fired.
>>29400930
>a single stage would be impossible to retain a precise threshold with.
Is this the kind of total bullshit they teach in schools these days?
Newsflash, even Geissele makes single stage triggers
How do the Brownell's GRF compare to the SSA? I have the GRF in my 3-gun rifle but haven't an opportunity to shoot anything with an SSA.
>>29400978
what does that have to do with my point asswipe? a threshold is more important than speed. god you're stupid.
>>29400983
>looked up B-GRF
>pulls like a single
>resets like a 2
That sounds fucking awful
>>29401005
It means that you CAN and they DO make consistent triggers
Two stage triggers are like manual safeties on handguns
Outdated and only used by fudds in the name of "safety"
>>29401024
>muh hair trigger
first off it's the same fucking thing the moment you press to the second stage. i don't understand how you think this is for safety. secondly, it's for accuracy. trying to be light with your grip to not hit a hair trigger fucks up your target lineup.
>>29400852
I doubt that. I've shot both, but I grew up on 2 stages. That first cm or so of take up keeps my groups more consistent than a single stage.
I can see why people prefer a single stage if that's what they learned on or if they need rapid follow up shots, but that's not me.
>>29401062
Not him but what is the point of the first stage then? I feel like this is a minor issue that can be taken out via training and is personal preference for the shooter.
>>29390461
100% yes. I have SSA's in my wife's AR and my truck gun and an SD-E in my fighting rifle.
I cant imagine how deadly my Marine Corps would be if our service rifles had Geissele triggers in them. They are outstanding.
>>29400215
If you're talking about the LMT Enhanced, skip it. It's really only meant for overgassed carbine rifles or possibly suppressor setups. A standard LMT/BCM/DD/Toolcraft bolt carrier group is almost preferred.
Cryptic is for suppressor setups or gucci fags.
>>29401106
I'd agree. For me, it's not total weight but how much I have to apply at that time.
My 2 stage on my bolt rifle has ~2 lbs of pull for the 1st stage, then ~1lbs for the second. This let's me get back to the wall gently, relax my hand as much as I can, then pull that additional 1 pound.
Assuming I had a single stage set trigger, I could set it for 1 pound to just skip the take up, but that makes me nervous.
>>29398395
There is something about two stage triggers that are awesome for target shooting.
And since that is what I do I love that my Springfield has one. And that my 10/22 replicates the feel of one.
How is the Larue MBT compared to the SSA?
$125 seems like a good deal.
>>29401254
I'm at 52 days waiting for it.
They weren't kidding when they said patient shipping option
>>29390461
SSA-E is worth it
>>29390959
You do realize LMT and CMT make everything everything for everyone except like three companies, right?
>>29390461
SSA or SD3G?
Going on 11.5" rifle so which ever is fastest
>>29401294
damn. and I thought 4 weeks for my gun belt was bad.
>>29394845
You sir, have just lost all my respect.
>>29401392
how has he not already? ll he does is post furry porn
>>29401344
>mfw I bougt almost all my parts individually so my 'LPK' cost like $12 shipped.
>>29401433
Teach me your jew ways because the only thing a day of searching got me was the same fucking price.
>>29401457
trigger is the most expensive part. You're probably going to get fucked there. I lucked out and got a ALG for a gift. Check out Rock River Arms, White Oak Armament, or DSG Arms and select the individual parts you need.
Mine are from RRA.
>>29401479
Ah, thought you might have found some magic, I thought I was doing great and gamed the system but then the trigger fucked me. At least I remembered that it is kind of important and didn't order before double checking.
>>29401499
Sorry to get your hopes up. Red Barn also makes a pretty damn good and cheap LPK minus the trigger and some small parts.
I already had a trigger and upgraded the safety which is why mine was so cheap. Still the cheapest option is to piece it together yourself.
