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What makes AR platforms so popular? What is so good about them?
Are they usually more worth the money than other rifles?
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They're accurate
They're reliable
The aftermarket is without equal in the gun industry
They are very user-friendly
The AR-15 has negligible recoil
They are exceedingly modular and can be completely taken apart with only a vice, a hammer, some punches, and an armorer's wrench.
The bottom of the AR-15 market fell out after Sandy, resulting in a shitload of parts being available for dirt cheap
>>29359016
I hated ARs until I built my own, now I think they're great. I still have one pet peeve though.
Who the fuck thought putting the pin and spring that holds the safety selector in place right above the grip was a good idea?
>>29359041
holy fuck that is intense
>>29359041
it was GG the second mr nahk daot blinked during the staredown
>>29359053
This.
Also, they're woman friendly. Which made teaching my wife how to shoot really easy.
I also like how easy it is to whip up a decent 80% receiver... Handy if you are security conscious, or you don't like the idea of being in a database just for exercising your 2A.
>>29359053
Is that why AR prices are so low now? Interesting how the threat of gun control legislation actually lead to an increase in sales.
>>29359111
Fuck yes. Manufacturers are building them by the truckload. The highly receptive market has made ARs cheaper to produce.
At this point, it wouldn't even be possible to disarm the US.
>>29359111
>Interesting how the threat of gun control legislation actually lead to an increase in sales.
Not terribly unusual. Gun sales have panic spikes after big shootings and/or gun control threats. Sandy Hook was especially pushed by the media, so we got LOTS of first time panic buyers who end up with buyer's remorse down the road.
Sandy Hook gave us cheap ARs, but made .22lr vanish. I'm not sure if the trade off was worth it.
>>29359078
>mr nahk daot
>>29359016
HEY IDIOTS.
THERE'S ALREADY ONE OF THESE UP.
USE THE SEARCH OR THE CATALOG ALREADY FOR FUCK'S SAKES.
IT HELPS ANSWERS GET ANSWERED IF THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THESE THREADS TO CHECK.
>>29359063
why does that matter?
>>29359161
>>29347924
>>29347924
>>29359171
It makes changing the grip annoying as shit.
>>29359111
>A score of white chilluns get gun downed at school by a Spergy McGee with an AR-15
>Biggest anti-gun effort since the fucking 1990s kicks into high gear almost immediately, with the Dems making it one of their primary issues
>Non-stop media parade of imminent bans, why assault weapons are the worst thing since the crack epidemic etc. etc.
>Demand for ARs skyrockets due to half of America suddenly wanting to have one for fear they'll be banned
>Production of components is ramped up to try and keep pace with the biggest surge in gun sales in America's history
>Dems go fullretard, AWB 2.0 falls flat on its ass
>Metric fuckton of lowers, uppers, barrels, LPKs, furniture, accessories etc. in the market regardless
>HAHAbuyersmarket.png, thing like $50 aluminum forged lowers and $150 CL'd barrels become a thing
I come from nofunz country and can only choose between the following AR models
>Colt AR-15 H-bar
>Bushmaster mod. XM15
>Olympic Arms AR-15 H-bar
>Oberland Arms (OA) 15
>Armalite M 15
>STAG 15
>Smith & Wesson M&P-15
Are there any huge differences in these or does it not matter much?
>>29359221
>H-bar
Someone willing to explain to me why this specific profile seemed to avoid the retarded New England state bans?
>>29359016
USA pushed them everywhere, with their puny .22 caliber cartridge, and now everyone with any connections with NATO just has to deal with one.
The AR-15's a real Prima donna platform, always needing to be taken care of, protected from elements and oiled up like a dry bitch in heat.
>proud buildfags
>>29359294
>The AR-15's a real Prima donna platform, always needing to be taken care of, protected from elements and oiled up like a dry bitch in heat.
>>29359294
You're gonna carry that bait.
>>29359016
>what makes them so popular?
-Aftermarket is unreal pham
-controllable, light recoil
-relative inexpensivity of ammo
-platform is fine for a host of other calibers
-aftermarket
-it's what the troops use
noguns here
Is there some way I can go over, in depth the specifics of a firearm, parts, and what they do?
something like World of Guns that goes in depth on every piece of the weapon.
Anyone know where to got a good /k/ typed daki? More girls in camo and less upotte. Yes, I am impressively lonely.
>>29359322
>I can't use a vise, so no one else can
>>29359016
because patents expire so everyone and there mother pumps them out
also since lol wut patents colt can't cuck the market as the sole provider thus giving little fucks about QC and having no rival to compete cost wise so they charged whatever the fuck they wanted
what was once the achillies heel of the ar15 being so overly engineered ahead of its time people can't into 100% spec every rifle off the line which now we have CNC machines doing all the grunt work everything is 100% spec all the time every time
tl;dr
expired patents
fuck ton of copycats
flooded market makes everyone have to compete price point (i.e. why psa is nigger rich atm)
overly engineered rifle in the 50's becomes relevant past its prime because CNC machines
Maverick 88 or Remington 870 Express?
Is a .357 Magnum hollowpoint good for HD?
>>29359161
/thread
>OP:
pic related
>>29360771
Ithaca 37
Best carbines? Nutnfaggy seemed to favor the hi point but what do you goys think
>>29359016
Because every basement dweller that wants to be cool can afford one and every mass shooter seems to be armed with one. Either way the media has made the AR into THE assault rifle.
They are also cheap, easy to customize. Think Honda Civic.
>>29359294
This desu senpai
What's some good gloves to use to go shooting?
>>29359016
They're user friendly in regards to weight, controls, and modularity. Fairly accurate and shoot a decent common caliber. Commonality is likely the biggest factor.
I prefer AKs because I'm not shilled into thinking a gun designed for suppressive fire is combat effective for an individual shooter. It's a harder hitting round that turns cover into concealment and can actually hunt deer/hogs/whathaveyou
>>29359016
How ignorant about firearms do you have to be to ask this question?
It's modular, it's ubiquitous, it's easy to use, it's light, it's versatile.
>>29359016
Because it's as reliable and as simple as a rifle can be made, while being adaptable to any size individual, easily, and touting accuracy that prior automatic rifles only dreamed of.
>>29359133
>At this point, it wouldn't even be possible to disarm the US.
With over 300 million firearms in private hands, the tons of manufacturers and small boutique makers, people with cnc machines and know how, and let's not forget the American attitude of "fuck you, I'll do it as spite at this point!".
Yes, unless the government plans to kill everybody, you won't disarm the US.
>>29359294
Nailed it senpai
>>29359322
>unless you can dig up the ore, refine the metal, forge it, and then make every component from scratch, you CANNOT use "make", "build", or any other word that triggers my autism.
>>29361382
No, fuck you, you're still using ore someone else made. You have to figure out a way to make heavier molecules out of hydrogen to fully satisfy my autism.
What's the purpose of replacing followers for shotgun tubes?
I'm planning to rice the fuck out of my m4 including a new tube. I get why I'd need a new spring but what does a new follower offer versus the stock one for any shotgun?
>>29359294
This is constantly repeated by nogunz.
The fact of the matter is that the AR15 is sealed from the elements and will survive mud submersion tests that will render an AK completely inoperable, and it will do it even with the dust cover wide open.
>>29359248
No threaded barrel. Only scary assault weapons need flash suppressors.
>>29361736
the replacements are usually slicker if plastic or better machined resulting in less friction in the tube or its just color
>>29359016
Right now it's simply too cheap not to grab an AR or two.
There really aren't too many calibers that are NOT available in the AR-15 platform; 5.56, 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, 300 BLKOUT, 7.62x39, 9mm, .40 S&W, and those are just the ones off the top of my head.
Thanks to living in Canada, I can't have an AR-15 for my car gun as they are restricted. Centerfire rifles are restricted to 5 round capacity. Rimfire rifles, however, have no restriction so long as they aren't consider a SBR, barrel must be 18.5 in. Or longpd.
Onto the point, would a .22wmr semi-auto rifle with 30 round clipazines be an acceptable "oh shit" gun for having around? If so, what would you recommend?
>>29361838
Is friction in a shotgun tube even an issue? It's a non curved magazine with a fuckton of recoil shaking it loose.
Didn't think about color
ok, im losing my fucking mind here.
im looking for a particular website, its a popular forum for military images and its divided by countries.
>>29362422
it might be this
>http://www.militaryimages.net/forums/military-photos-by-country.68/
i remember it being bigger though with a lot more countries.
>>29359322
>>29360264
>>29361382
>A fucking joke
Where can I get or how can I make a drum mag for my sig p938?
If I'm going to run a mid-length gas system with a rifle-length buffer tube, will a standard rifle buffer weight be OK? Should I get a heavier buffer or a stiffer spring? Or will everything be fine?
>>29362991
Convince Promag to make one.
I was given this old pistol, and it's a grimy motherfucker. What's the best way to go about cleaning it up?
Should I trade my Type I Carcano for a 10/22 Takedown?
>>29359016
>>29359016
I'm looking to build a custom AR. Now... where the fuck do I start?
I'm mostly into handguns, the only rifles I have are a Ruger 10/22 my dad got me when I was 5, and the obligatory moist nugget. I know very little about modern guns, ARs being no exception.
I've heard that when ordering the parts and building one from scratch, I'm gonna spend almost as much money on tools as I do the actual rifle. Is this true?
Help a newfag out.
>>29363054
Everything will be fine. If you have some piece of shit out of spec upper, it won't.
>>29363165
Disassemble, hit it with automotive brake cleaner, then wipe it all down with automatic transmission fluid. Wipe off the excess and you're GTG.
>>29363210
It's true that if you build one from parts, you aren't likely to be able to do it for cheaper than the lower-end premade rifles.
However, you be able to put one together exactly as you like it, end up with parts that are as good, if not better, than the preassembled rifle, and you'll learn a lot about the gun in the process.
Truth be told, you might be better off buying a moderately priced premade until you decide exactly what it is you like. After that, you'll know what it is you actually want in a rifle and so putting one together yourself would be more beneficial.
Can't really lose either way.
>>29363210
>>29363257
As far as where to start, there are plenty of guides available on how to put them together.
I'd start by looking at ARs that are available and deciding what you like. Lurk on the AR-15 threads here and see what people have in their builds, and take what you like from it. Then either buy a gun that meets your list, or build it.
>>29363210
Use the internet my friend. EBay has tons of parts for sale dirt cheap.
>>29363257
>>29363278
Much appreciated. I'd really like to make it from scratch though so I can get exactly what I'm looking for the first time, and then get additional parts later if the mood strikes me. That's why I wanna learn about the different parts and stuff now, so I can figure out what I want at first.
If it helps direct advice at all, I'd like something I could use for a little precision shooting. I don't expect to be hitting dimes at 1000 yards with it (although if that is an option...) but something with a longer range, know what I mean?
>>29363319
I'm sure I'll end up doing that but like I said I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing here. I'm not even entirely sure what uppers and lowers include. I see the words tossed around all the time but like I said I'm more into handguns so this is completely new territory for me.
>>29359016
Because they're like LEGO. You buy the basic model, but then you can keep going and customize it endlessly. You can swap out the stock, barrel, charging handle, handguard, optics, iron sights, trigger, safety, grip, barrel device. And all of this is very easy to do.
>>29363402
You can pick up parts kits for the upper and lowers online. Then there are various YouTube videos that show how to build the whole gun from parts.
It's actually surprisingly easy to do. I did it myself for my first ever gun and finished it for around $400 while keeping an eye out for sales.
>>29359041
Is that the resurrected Freddy Mercury?
Could the Remington rolling block action potentially be scaled up to chamber .50 cal safely? I've been thinking about this for a long-term build project.
I want to order a stealth arms jig but I don't have a credit card and I don't know how prepaid cards work
>>29363598
Yes but it will get very heavy very quickly. Not worth it, if you want to do a comfy .50 build look at the maadi griffin builds
>>29359016
Can somebody post the /k/ approved budget guns list for me?
>>29361980
.22 mags dont fuck around, theyre overlooked very good rounds.
Would it be better to buy a mk23 or a usp45 tactical? Plan to use it for hd and range fun and intend to put a suppressor on it. Is the mk23 really worth the extra cash i guess is what i am asking.
>>29359137
Buyers remorse? What would be so bad about owning an AR?
>>29359133
AR's make up 20% of US rifle manufacuring.
There's an estimated 15 million AR pattern rifles in the US, around 40% of all modern sporting rifles
>>29359016
>incredible aftermarket that shits on any other gun in the market
>modular
>ubiquitous with parts being able to be found in every gunshop
>ar market as of the few years became saturated as fuck leading to extremely affordable quality parts
>murrica
It's the year 2016 and you can get a good quality ar15 for cheaper than a meh quality ak. They're hands down the best rifle any American can own, period.
>>29359221
Get colt, stag, or s&w.
>>29359294
Spotted the noguns vatnik canuk.
>>29359956
/k/
>>29360771
Actual Mossberg 500.
>>29360895
Anything but the HiPoint. Like, maybe, the AR15.
>>29361138
Your mother's white lace gloves she wears on Sunday's.
>>29361924
There are literally thousands of calibers that cannot work in either an AR10 or an AR15.
>>29362991
E-mail Kek Tec.
>>29363165
With a grinder and a cut off wheel. Don't let the name fool you, they are GOAT tier for removing rust and grime.
>>29363170
No.
What's stopping someone from upscaling the AR-10 in the same way they downscaled it into the AR-15? Like, build a 50 bmg AR and call it the AR-5 or something?
>It is such a manly weapon only the Arnolds of the world can wield it effectively
Is GunBroker as big of a bunch of assholes as everyone makes them out to be?
Are there many other trustworthy sites like them?
>>29364472
Lol no.
>>29364742
Referring to noguns regretting becoming hasguns because their fat joo wives mindfuck them constantly until they sell it. All because those disgusting hamplanets don't want a real man around to prevent them from draining his bank account, fucking his friends or random negros, and taking his children in the divorce while cashing that alimony for life.
>>29365181
It's already been built for .300 win mag. The Barrett is objectively the best/strongest action yet devised for semi auto .50 BMG. The AR wouldn't be as strong and would recoil too much.
>>29359137
Is .22lr usable for deer hunting or would you want a bigger caliber for that?
>>29365184
There's eGunner but I've never used it. Sadly, Gunbroker is about our only option.
I hate it when a business on Gunborker has a C&R firearm for sale, lists it as a C&R, and then refuse to ship it to a C&R licence holder. I get it, you have an FFL and want to ship to another FFL holder but my C&R licence IS an FFL.
>>29365201
No. You want, and in many jurisdictions are legally required to use, a larger caliber.
Any center fire rifle cartridge larger than .223 will suffice, and in areas with smaller deer, the .223 is enough.
>>29365212
My great grandfather used to hunt deer in Massachusetts with a bolt action .22, but I'm not sure if that's just because it was all the gun they could afford at the time.
