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Hard mode: No hollywood movies. Seriously, if you pull that "porcelain gun" quote from Die Hard 2, I will eat your children.

For me it's Gunsmith Cats. Like, okay, it's nice CZ 75 got some screentime, but claiming CZ 75 Pre B is more accurate than latter versions is just the top of the iceberg. Not to mention the Gunsmith Cats aren't even fucking gunsmiths, they just show off their boobs. Top quality anime tiddy but in a manga-turned anime about guns that isn't gonna cut it. To top it off it's about the most precise japanese work about guns, the rest is "OH MAGICAL TERRYFYING DEATH MACHINE THAT MAKES PEOPLE KILL".
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>>29323168
You type like a fag
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>>29323168
>Not to mention the Gunsmith Cats aren't even fucking gunsmiths
its like you didn't even read the comics.
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>>29323175
I'm an eastern european. We talk like this too you fat faggot.
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>>29323168

>>>/a/

>>>/lgbt/
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>>29323168
and here folks, is someone who's never read the original comics (and no, reading the official shitty translation does not count, they translated a lot wrong)
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>>29323168
Terminator fucking rampage!

The Uzi, M16 and Ak-47 all use the same rounds, and the AK is described as "very accurate, very deadly".

The manual BTW also was very melodramatic "you are mankind's last hope, remember this even as your back is against the wall and you've chambered your last round".
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>>29323168
>For me it's Gunsmith Cats. Like, okay, it's nice CZ 75 got some screentime, but claiming CZ 75 Pre B is more accurate than latter versions is just the top of the iceberg. Not to mention the Gunsmith Cats aren't even fucking gunsmiths, they just show off their boobs. Top quality anime tiddy but in a manga-turned anime about guns that isn't gonna cut it. To top it off it's about the most precise japanese work about guns, the rest is "OH MAGICAL TERRYFYING DEATH MACHINE THAT MAKES PEOPLE KILL".

Rally is a gunsmith, she just supplements her job with bounty hunting and getting coerced into being some crazy mobster woman's sex slave.
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>>29323168

Fuck off faggot

How could you shit on the *ONE* thing that /k/ all agrees is based as fuck with the guns?

Gunsmith Cats IS GOAT
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>>29323194
>eastern European
explains everything

poor b8

1/10 made me reply
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>>29323168
Consider suicide.
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>>29323168

>>>/a/
>>>/trash/

The other unemployed virgins would love to make time for you, loser.
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>>29323883
The unemployed virgins already responded, as evident by your post. /a/fags would just ignore the cunt or rip him apart because of his shitty opinion.
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>>29323755
>and getting coerced into being some crazy mobster woman's sex slave.

I'm gonna need more info about that, for science.
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>>29324736
I want to say that's the entire plot of burst. I'm pretty sure goldie was introduced in the original but I can't remember if the psychopharmacology was there or if it started in burst.
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>>29323168
>Shitty
>Gunsmith Cats

Pick one.
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>>29323168
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>>29323168
god damn /k/ what the fuck, do we not have mods anymore? every thread is some troll shit. I saw porn, CP, james east, pol shit all on my first page.
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>>29327155
Lots of waifu bait, but shit show, tBh
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>>29327155
Fuck moeshit.
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>>29323168
Gunsmith Cats is the name of their gun store.
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>>29327155
Christ, what an awful show.
How the fuck does anyone like this.
It doesn't even do cute girls all that well.
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>>29324793
Rally gets powerballed in the original, by the time Burst comes out I'm fairly certain Goldie is way out of the picture.
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>it'll never be the 90's again
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>>29327168
Anime is /k/ related, friend, and it always will be.
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>>29328341
Oh it's the page I dropped the series for.
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>>29323759
>/k/ all agrees is based

fuck off weeb
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>>29323734
>the AK is described as "very accurate, very deadly".

Can you imagine, even for a second, that in the hands of a skilled shooter (like a TERMINATOR!), that it is both of those?
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>>29328341
Wait what? I've never read the manga. I thought she was like 12.
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>>29328806
Why? Did your PURE IMOUTO faggot instinct take better of you?
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>>29328862
Like 17 at the beginning of the comics, but it's revealed she's been a callgirl since like age 13 or some shit

The manga is so much better.
It's like 9 huge compendiums vs three 45 minutes OVAs
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>>29323717
Where would you find scanlations of the original, the oldest i could find were scans of the old single issue floppies from the 90's
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>>29328899
Welp, guess I know where my money is going next.
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>>29328899
If there's ever a jap who's as autistic as /k/ when it comes to guns, its definitely Sonoda.
>those margin notes where he describes the type of gun and ammo being used
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>>29328899
Also, fuck you OP, GSC is the shit
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>>29323168
>but claiming CZ 75 Pre B is more accurate than latter versions is just the top of the iceberg

Do you have proof to say otherwise?

Also,
>this is bait
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>>29328806
>>29328874
he's a pure maiden fag
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>>29328964
Because muh higher quality steel is a myth.
http://entropymag.org/gunsmith-cats-on-gun-control-culture-and-taboo/
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>>29328928
>New York

wait
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>>29328919
I'm quite sure you could find somewhere to download it instead

Not that I'm advocating that, just that it would probably be possible
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>>29328988
They do travel to New York at least once that I know of, chasing down one of the big bads iirc
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>>29328988
she's talking to another gunshop owner.
>>29328996
its not exactly as if the guy can pop down to a chapters or borders to pick a volume up.
the series is something like 20 years old.
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>>29328987
Isn't this from Punisher Armory? Someone post it, that's when Punisher really became /k/ related back in the late 80s.
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>>29328979
Correct. If I wanted to read about sluts, I'd be reading tabloids, not manga.
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>>29329034
Its from Gunsmith Cats.
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>>29329023
Is that from the Riding Bean OVA?
I've never really searched for a link, but I'd like to watch it to see the parallels if you have a link

>>29329034
Nope, Gunsmith Cats compendium 1, page 155 to be exact
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>>29328996
Ehhh, i already own all the volumes, i thought you meant you found some old, vhs video store era scanlations from some ancient weeb group
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>>29329067
yup, riding bean
if you liked gunsmith cats, you'll like riding bean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NArI4w0-1c
>that cheesy 80's OST
perfect
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>>29328987
1) that article did not disprove anything
2) who's to say the steel didn't have a higher carbon content
3) a guy who owned one on some forum or other said his did in fact ring like a bell once all the internals were pulled out
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>>29328928
>they must be worth a mint now
>how about all those old, high- capacity mags you bought before the regs were changed
>they're killing us rally
>it's all those new regs

How the fuck does this make any kind of sense?
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>>29329088
congrats on reading it backwards you fucking mong
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>>29329070
Did you drop your gun in a fucking blender mate?
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>>29329088
>might be bait
>might not be bait

Read right to left pleb
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>>29329114
Nah, jew police trade in for a project gun, i have prettier ones m8
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>>29329083
>Inspector Percy is in Riding Bean
>He's driving the blue/white GT500
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>>29329148
Damn
Where'd you get it? And how much?
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>>29329214
Gunbroker for like $340 and change shipped, seller was CDI sales iirc
Got this girl for like $420 shipped
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>>29329250
What's the bore like? I've been thinking about picking one up from Cope's but all the excellent bore CZs are long gone and I'm a little dubious of a good or fair bore.
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>>29323168
>How to piss off /k/
>Insult something at least 1/3rd of /k/ loves
>Insults aren't retarded enough to be obvious bait but are retarded enough to make fuckers annoyed at how retarded you are
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>>29329296
All of them have great bores, i think cz barrels take abuse well, as my most beat to shit one still has a bore thats shiny and chrome
YMMV
Time for sleep
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>>29329067
Here ya go Anon.

https://bakabt.me/torrent/155317/riding-bean-bd-1080p-a-fanrips
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>>29328840
But it isn't, it is not salvaged from T-800 units, you have to find it on a particular floor, and the terminator universe's powered armor in that game is an unpowered prototype.

It makes sense that it's more powerful in the game, in close quarters, but, like I said, it's one of those dramatic manuals.

And it's rather silly that you even find an AK in a facility in the Cheyenne mountains.
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>>29323168
I win:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqh6Ap9ldTs
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>>29330017

>I'm not exactly familiar with this Terminator game
>Google sum shit
>Find some YouTube vids
>Watch an installation/intro video
>BETHESDA SOFTWORKS

It all makes sense now, anon. I especially love the turbo-laser towers they put outside Cheyenne Mountain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA13kFKZU34
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>>29329250

CDI has quite a bit of CZ fun. Bought my CZ83 from them.
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>>29323168
>carrying cocked 'n locked
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>>29328836
>weeb

Calling someone on 4chan a weeb is like going to The Gambia and calling someone a nigger.

think about where you are before you talk shit.
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>>29323168
>Not to mention the Gunsmith Cats aren't even fucking gunsmiths
Good God, did you even fucking read the series? Hell in the OVA they're literally blackmailed by the ATF for running a gunsmith business without the right licenses.
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>>29323168
I'm too busy fucking my old lady abd shooting my guns to watch cartoons.

Fuck off kid.

Reported for underage b&.
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>>29331117
Your too busy posting on a kids cartoon board so your wife is taking your neighbors cock, bigger then a man that gets insecure about cartoons.
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>>29331084
They're blackmailed for having NFA items without the proper paperwork in their home in the OVA.
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>>29331117
Why are you even on a Taiwanese cartoon webcomic site?
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>>29331047
>mfw the artist tried to justify her--yes her choice of pose by actually posing with an airsoft and saying rifles are too big to shoulder properly and that is the only way to hold them
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>>29324793
Started at the end of the original and Burst revisited the whole thing.
>>29328313
She was for a while but Burst ends with Goldie once again.
>>29328806
Are you some kind of fag?
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>>29331117
This is a weapons board, I'm not interested in the homosex musings of a manchild that inserts glass jars into his anus, while making webms with the video equipment in his uncle's kiddy porn dungeon. >>>/b/

>>29331509
There are entire boards dedicated to containing your faggotry. Try keeping your father's greatest disappointment to yourself, nobody here wants to suffer your gay plague.

>>29331529
Sharpie in poooper.
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>>29323168
>>29323192
yes they were the owned a fucking gun store and worked on guns. she talks about it in the first fucking episode.
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>>29323168
There's more gunsmithing in the manga.
Still pretty heavy on the bounty hunting though.
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>>29332551
i was planning to do fanart of that chocolate gal going through 9mm shots like it's nothing only to bust out a 10mm like the arnold gif, only to be confronted by an autist with an ar build he posts on /arg/ all the time. i wish i had more table space to draw on though.
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>contains piss drinking and tips about shooting from people that do not own guns
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>>29332551
>ere's more gunsmithing in the manga.
>Still pretty heavy on the bounty hunting though.

To be perfectly fair, while /k/ommandos would eat that shit up I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't want to sit and read about someone sitting at a workbench for hours. Same way no one watched Son's of Guns for the technical stuff.

Oh fuck that's a crossover i want to see not, Rally visits Redjacket
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>>29332654
So you're saying if you don't own guns you aren't qualified to talk about drinking piss?
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>>29332695
imagine she goes "neva been dun befo" with the dub voice
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>>29331938
Oh my, you must be new here. Since you aren't a tripfag, you are doing good so far. But you still need to lurk moar faggot.
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>>29332706
I more imagine it her cringing so damn hard at the rednecks breaking the laws of guns and good sense and May blowing the place up after "Nevabeendun" tries to molest her
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>>29332762
so violent...i just want cute girls making cute replicas of dynajets and dragunovs.
>we'll never see them talk about how each gun functions and the war history behind it.
>we'll never see the fabrication methods involved
>we'll never see them fire a bofos in their backyard.
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>>29332654
yfw it's the 2nd chapter
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>>29323168
>>29328964
>>29328987

>all these kiddies think Rally has a Pre-b.

When the original gunsmith cats was made, there were only two CZ-75 models. They were both called the CZ-75 but the first model people called it a short rail and the second model people called a long rail, due to the rail length the slides rode on.

The manga IS correct. The original short rail CZ-75 was made out of tool steel, which is much harder than the steel used on regular firearms. The problem with this design was it was expensive to make, and it wore out tooling much faster. They were only made from 1975 to 1980. Many of these pistols ended up in Rhodesia and South Africa. Very few made it to the U.S. due to the Iron Curtain. A few made it into Canada and then into the U.S, a smaller number managed to get in illicitly. Some came in through Germany (soldiers stationed in Germany who purchased the pistols and then exported them to the U.S)

Many of these pistols were sold to the Rhodesian Army, and are labeled RA on the slides and frames. Many more were exported to South Africa. there are a few short rails that managed to get imported from these locations.

in 1980, in order to produce more pistols at a higher rate, they changed the steel used for production so they could lower the price and not wear their tooling down to shit chunking out pistols made of tool steel. On short rails, the metal in the front is thin, and using a softer steel would mean this area was more prone to damage. To re-enforce this area, CZ changed the design and extended the rail section in the front and re-enforced the entire region to strengthen it

in 1985, the Iron Curian fell, and the pistol was able to be sold to all western audiences. Production ramped up even more and this is where the "Muh machine marks" meme comes from

Rally has an original FIRST MODEL (short rail) CZ-75. They are much better made, the fit and finish is better and hence, they are more accurate than the subsequent mass produced CZ
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>>29323168
Why is she drawing her gun and a spare mag at the same time?
That's not how you hold a mag if you are going to use it.
She's on the street, why is she drawing her gun like that?
What is this shit, is she surrendering?
Stupid amine, I bet she's not even a real person.
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>>29332695
>I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't want to sit and read about someone sitting at a workbench for hours
They've got shows about playing board games and building Gundam models. I think it could be done. Hell, Slam Dunk even managed to make basketball seem interesting.
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>>29333297
you know she could be drawing out the magazine from a corpse she just shot down right?
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>>29333301
>Slam Dunk
>Not Basquash

If I've said once I've said it a thousand times. Robots make everything better.
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>>29333301

Wow, Gen13 bootleg. What ever happened to that comic?
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>>29333287
This is correct, but let me elaborate more on this subject.
The article, while well written in post >>29328987 forgets the time period GSC takes place in, and seems to also forget when GSC was written. Gunsmith cats was written in the early 90s, and takes place sometime before that

The CZ-75B didn't come out till 1993, which was 3 years before the writing of the manga


During that time, as you have stated, there were really only two models out there. The original CZ-75 and the second generation CZ-75

The original short rail CZ-75 was machined from forged metal, so the notation out there on forums of the short rail being machined from tool steel isn't false, but from a technical standpoint, it would be more correct to say they were just machined from a hammer forged block of steel

This made the pistols heavier but also very durable, and the quality was exceptional

Small numbers were produced up till 1980, and at this point other countries were interested in purchasing the pistol in high numbers. When some of the models were sent to the Swiss, Swiss importers didn't like the thin inside rails and short frame. Rumor has it that Swiss engineers had a discussion with the engineers at CZUB, and convinced them to change to the long rail design. Either way, it was because of the requests made by the Swiss that caused the change in design. In 1980 and I think possibly up to 1981, long rail CZ-75 pistols WERE made with forged frames. Forged framed CZ-75 pistols have the words "Made in Czechoslovakia" in one line on the frame, rather than in two lines like you see them today. Both the short rails and the small number of long rails with forged frames have the lettering engraved like this. The forged pistols also all had a blued finish where as the later ones are painted black

I saw a long rail CZ-75 with a forged frame popup on Gunbroker a few months ago, I tried bidding on it but it ended up selling for $2000 a little out of my price range.
>CONT IN NEXT POST
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The new CZ-75s had their rails beefed up, the slides extended, and the front area re-enforced. However, in order to ramp up production, CZ outsourced the manufacturing of their frames to a Spanish company.

The Spanish firm contracted by CZUB was slow and run by jews (probably), and the frames they produced for CZUB were CAST instead of forged. This is also when they first started using two lines to engraved the origin markings

So instead of engraved as "Made in Czechoslovakia" they were engraved as

"Made in
Czechoslovakia"

on the frames, on the trigger guard, a dimple was also made on the side to engrave the coat of arms into, instead of engraving it onto the smooth metal in that region.

Not only were they cast, but the quality of the castings were so bad that the pistol reputation dropped immensely in the European market at the time. Military contracts were canceled, and shooting enthusiasts spread the news about the terrible quality CZ pistols had become on their second generation.

This is where the whole drama over the quality difference between the original CZ-75 and the 2nd generation CZ-75 comes from, because, as rally explained, the new CZ-75s were complete and utter dog shit.

>CONT IN NEXT POST
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>>29334006
As soon as they were able, CZUB invested in and built up their own casting facilities, and fixed the issues the Spanish contracted pistols had. Once they had their in house facilities going, they pushed these new pistols back out to the market, and this time these were well received, but it did take a while for European customers to gain faith in the pistols again.

The bad reputation CZ had gained over seas didn't quite spread to the United States as prolifically, as it wasn't till 1985 that we started seeing pistols come in commercially, and it's reputation was already high here thanks to Jeff Cooper, who had praised the CZ-75 as the finest pistol in the world, and his CZ-75 was one of the original models (the only flaw he 'found' was that the pistol was not chambered in .45 ACP, as we all know he was quite obsessed with the round)
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>>29333997
>>29334006
>>29334014
this is great knowledge, thank you for writing this anon

just goes to show how well researched GSC was.
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screen-capped for future use, I know this will come up again
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>>29323168

>>29323175
This, and your shit's all retarded, too.
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>>29323760
I heard the women have 4 holes.
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>>29328836
How are you even here? Stupid nigger.
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>>29336357
What's is the 4th hole?
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>>29331041
>thinking that's bad
fuckin' leave
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>>29337710
Earwax.
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>>29329445
>1/3 of /k/ loves anime
Nobody likes you guys and you severely overestimate your presence on this board
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>>29332791
s1 was gold, s2 was trash
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