M70AB2
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Any particular reason to stay away from the M70AB2? I want an underfolder, and to be honest I really like the look of the 3 slot handguard, some of the receiver details, and the grenade launcher gas port/leaf sight. My main concern is the lack of a chrome lined barrel.
And if not that, which underfolder stamped AKM-patterns would you guys recommend? By my understanding the N-PAP DF is another underfolder with yugo furniture, but without some of the details I like, and still no chrome-lining, but more readily available.
>>29303127
Go with what you want mang. I find them to be one of the most aesthetically pleasing aks out there but I don't like underfolders for shooting one bit.
>>29303248
I want a compact intermediate semi auto rifle, and far as I know underfolder AKs are about as compact as it gets. I drive a tiny 4x4 and want something that will fold up without having to lay diagonal in the back.
I'm not terribly knowledgeable though. Should I still be constantly cleaning a non-chrome lined barrel even if i'm not shooting corrosive ammo?
Bump.
Side folder my son
>>29303127
Just make sure the front sight post isn't canted and keep the chamber lubed if you shoot steel cased ammo
I've got one, I like it a lot. Not as much aftermarket as others, but it's not a big deal if you just want a wood handguard.
The chrome lines is a thing to think about, but it doesn't bother me especially since I don't shoot corrosive. Clean it occasionally and you should be fine.
>>29304049
Yeah, I just want the wood.
Are the pistol grips interchangeable with other AKs though? I haven't held it personally but the stock grips look pretty awful, especially the finger grooved ones. I'd want to put a MOE grip on it.
Other than that, I would probably put one of those Krebs Custom Aperture sights on it and wrap the stock with some paracord (I heard it makes it more abrasive, but since the temperature here goes from -40 to 110 throughout the year it would be more for insulation), and maybe replace the muzzle device if possible.
>>29303127
had one and liked it. gave it away for a $900 AR and killed many hogs with it. the non-chrome barrel really isnt an issue as long as you clean the goddamned thing somewhat frequently. and they have a 1.5mm receiver vs a typical ak of around .9-1mm. this was for the extra stress of the grenade but just translates to a tougher bird for you. only bad thing is the stock is pure shit.
>>29304286
I know people don't like the underfolder design on principal but did the stock at least lock up tightly on your specific rifle?
>>29304305
it did at first but the more you use it the looser it becomes. not falling out of place or anything just a bit of wiggle.
>>29303127
Yugo underfolders are the best underfolders IMHO.
Straighter stock angle, tighter lockup. They're more comfortable to shoot and don't get much stock wobble over time. They're still underfolders though, and still not much fun to shoot compared to a traditional stock.
HOWEVER, I'd recommend an NPAP-DF over an M70AB2. The only reason being that Zastava built the NPAP-DF, and Century replaced some parts and opened up the magwell, while Century built the M70AB2 off a kit with a US-made barrel. Neither barrel is chrome-lined but the Zastava barrel will be much better built than the US one, and frankly, you want a gun to have been manipulated by Century as little as possible.
You won't have the grenade-sight gas block or the bulged receiver but it's still the better gun of the two.
>>29303127
>underfolder
Buy an underfolder and you'll regret it.
>>29305103
It can't be that bad.
>>29305237
Do you like having cheek weld? Then you won't like an underfolder at all.
They're not fun to shoot, really, unless you're a masochist. What's wrong with a side folder?
>>29303324
Get one of them AK "pistols" for a truck gun.
>>29304349
Just wanted to add, for the ab2 century uses nodak recievers and green mountian barrels.
I agree the zastava rifle is better overall, the ab2 is prolly the best rifle century manufactures.
>>29303324
>I want a compact intermediate semi auto rifle, and far as I know underfolder AKs are about as compact as it gets. I drive a tiny 4x4 and want something that will fold up without having to lay diagonal in the back.
An M70AB2 or NPAP DF is definitely the cheapest way to accomplish this, but AK pistols like a Draco or M92 will be smaller and more comfortable. Put a blade brace and folding mechanism on them.
>I'm not terribly knowledgeable though. Should I still be constantly cleaning a non-chrome lined barrel even if i'm not shooting corrosive ammo?
Chrome lining is primarily about barrel life under sustained automatic fire, not corrosion resistance. It's a complete non-issue in semiauto guns.
>>29303127
I had one of the early ones and I really liked it, so I would say go for it. Though, you should know that the cheek weld is going to be bad and that's just the price you pay for this style folder.
I miss mine, and I want another. I sold mine to my father years ago to get together a down payment on my second car.
>>29305279
I guess I do really just like the image. From what i've read a lot of people learn to work with it, and it's cool that it doesn't add any real width to the gun as well. I guess i've got no real concrete excuses, but it might take purchasing one and seeing for myself to dissuade me from them.
>>29305302
>>29305403
I don't understand the logic there though. Why get a shitty AK pistol with absolutely no stock instead of a real AK without NFA concerns with a serviceable, if unfriendly stock? You can still shoot it without unfolding it, and with a "brace" (which I really don't care for) they're about the same length as a folded underfolder.
I see the "AK pistol for your truck gun" thing everywhere. I think it's nothing more than something people read somewhere and accept as truth without really thinking it through (trying really hard not to say meme).
>>29305237
My buddy has an M70AB2. The problem for me wasn't necessarily the lack of cheek weld but the fact that the UF is actually wider than the receiver, so the stock was in the way of me moving my head to get behind the sights. I could not find a way to shoot it without tilting my head at an extremely uncomfortable angle. I absolutely love the look of UF and I had planned on buying an M70AB2, but after shooting his I immediately changed my mind. I'm not an AK noob either, pic related
>>29305279
It does jar your head a little if you try to get a good cheek-weld.
But it's nice and compact, I think an underfolder in 5.45x39 would make more sense.
>>29305481
If you plan to transport it without a mag, echo93 makes a kydex cheek riser that makes it more comfortable to shoot. I personally just wrapped some of the stock with cord. The only real accessory you need is a cheap tennis racket bag from ebay.
>>29305403
>non-issue
lol, meanwhile I need to clean my AK-74 after shooting 7N6 because of dat chemical erosion
>>29305585
I already have a few ARs, so I don't really want a 5.45.
The way I've always looked at it is, the AK in 7.62x39 is in spirit somewhat more comparable to a submachine gun than our western ideas of the assault rifle (even though it's far more comparable to the actual Sturmgewehr). It's a bigger, fatter, slower moving round than our 5.56 or their 5.45, and in fact the folding stock of the AKMS was ripped straight from the MP40. It was developed at a time when the soviets were issuing more PPSHs than they were 91/30s to their frontline troops, and after it came around they didn't bother developing a new service subgun. The 7.62x39 round lends itself more to close in, "assault"/defense type work and benefits from a compact form, while 5.56 and 5.45 lend themselves more to more deliberate maneuver warfare.
Not that it really matters for the average LARPer queer like me of course, but it makes the idea of small gun with big bullet more appealing than small gun with small bullet.
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>>29305503
>I don't understand the logic there though. Why get a shitty AK pistol with absolutely no stock instead of a real AK without NFA concerns with a serviceable, if unfriendly stock? You can still shoot it without unfolding it, and with a "brace" (which I really don't care for) they're about the same length as a folded underfolder.
Look, EVERYONE thinks underfolders are cool-looking, anon.
But literally no one, EVER, has said they are comfortable to use. They're the LEAST comfortable AK stock you can use. Ignore us if you want, it's your money, your face, and your shoulder, but that's the long and short of it.
Next thing, AK "pistols" ARE real AKs. They're Krinks (shortened AKs with folding stocks used by vehicle crews and paratroopers) manfactured without stocks.
Yugo underfolders these days are running ~$650 online, plus shipping, taxes, and FFL fees. Dracos and M92s are ~$500 plus all that (actually shipping is free on M92s at Atlantic right now...). US Machinegun sells kits with a Blade Brace, adapter, and folding mechanism for $177. It's literally cheaper to have a smaller, more comfortable package that accomplishes everything you say you want.
Also, there aren't any "NFA concerns". Most braces ship with an ATF approval letter, and literally no one has been convicted of shouldering a braced pistol.
>>29305620
I'm not saying you don't have to maintain your guns, retard. I'm saying that the primary reason for chrome-lining select-fire weapons in the first place is mostly negated for most users by the fact that the rifles in question are semi-auto.
Corrosive primers will fuck up your gun if you don't clean it, chrome-lined barrel or not.
>OP: Hay guise what do you think about this gun?
>Entire thread: It's fine but x feature is dogshit
>OP: Nah I'm sure it's fine
Why bother making a thread if your mind is made up, OP?
Underfolders fucking suck to shoot. If you want one anyway, that's cool but don't say we didn't warn you.
Is gud for removal of kebabs
>>29305997
I asked if there were issues with the specific model, and if so what a better underfolder would be, I didn't really want to be chewed out over the stock although I expected it.
>>29305997
Isn't that why you grow an operator beard for a natural cushion on an underfolder stock?
>>29305870
Maybe I'm some sort of mutant, but i find mine quite comfy.
Here is my m70ab2 with Balkan furniture
>>29306946
Other side.
I've got a century AB2, it was well worth the money.
>>29303127
If you absolutely know you'll be happy with the underfolding stock, do it--but remember that you will never be able to change the stock out.
If you live in a dry area or don't shoot corrosive ammo, I don't know that a chrome lined barrel is a big deal.
I have a Yugo, and while I like it, I don't think that it's versatile.
You could also consider a WASR and install a folding stock on it--Bonesteel and Manticore Arms make some good ones.
Another alternative, if you wanted to spend a bit more, is the Arsenal SLR-107. I have one with the triangle folder, and I couldn't be happier. They come with a trigger that is absolute shite and needs to be replaced.
>>29305620
12k rounds of corrosive shitty surplus x54r through a vepr and we have yet to clean it. Not a single problem so far.
>>29304083
Can someone answer the pistol grip question before the thread dies though? It looks like you can from what I've seen but I just want to make sure there isn't any fuckery involved.
>>29308120
I really like the Yugo grips, they are interchangeable with standard ask grips.
Also just get the underfolder you'll love it
>>29303127
>Any particular reason to stay away from the M70AB2?
yes, its not a WASR
>>29305561
>that fucking optic
>>29308296
Don't WASRs have a bad reputation? I don't like that stock angle either.
>>29308505
WASRs HAD a bad reputation. They no longer do.
Stay away from WASR 10/63's and pre 2013 WASR 10s.
New production WASRs are g2g, I have 3, two of them have over 15,000 rounds through them and have only had ammunition related incidents (bad primers)
>>29308505
same anon as >>29308590
I mean get what you want man. Just know that Yugo AKs have significantly less aftermarket, and special snowflake parts.
A WASR10 is an AKM pattern rifle, a Yugo AK of any kind, is not. So part commonality does not exist for the most part.
>>29305561
>that optic
>that rpk
>that suppressed ak.
You're a pretty cool guy anon.
>>29308606
The only major thing I want to change out is the pistol grip so it's fine.
I'll probably end up with 2+ AKs one of these days anyways, i'll get something normal the next time around.
Also, how do you address the issue with the safety overtraveling and firing the gun these things have?
Is gud gun yas.
>>29308696
>suppressed ak
Bro that's a fake suppressor barrel extension. It's pinned and welded to the muzzle so that you can put a stock on a krink without filing NFA paperwork.
CNCWarrior sells the exact setup pictured for like $750.
>>29308606
It's actually ~75% parts commonality between M70s and AKMs. However furniture stuff is what most people want to fuck with on AKs and that's what doesn't fit on Yugos, other than pistol grips which are standard.
I have an opap and I love it.
i bought an M70AB2 about ten years ago, my first rifle purchase actually. i have not regretted it.
the stock has a little bit of wobble to it, but thats to be expected, the ability to fold it down for transport is worth it i think. i dont get the hate people are giving the stock, ive never had any issues with cheek weld or having to cock my head at uncomfortable angles to get a sight picture.
>>29313273
Did you paint the top cover and handguard green or is it the lighting?
>>29311709
Did your retaining pin fall out?
>>29308696
>>29311658
Yeah unfortunately it's not a real can, I've been pussyfoting around submitting my Form 1 for about a year now, but *eventually* it will be an SBR, then I plan on building a 7.62 can on a form 1 as well.
Good catch with the CNC warrior, that's where I bought mine when they first started selling them because I was 20 at the time and worried about Sandy Hook 2: Electric Boogaloo happening and not being able to pick up an AK pistol by the time I turned 21.
>>29303324
>>29303127
M70AB2's have a 1.5mm RPK receiver, so while they are underfolders they are still heavier for no reason, also good luck finding cool aftermarket stuff to put on it
>>29314416
No? I got a bad magazine with the gun but that was the only issue I've had with it and it's 200 rounds now.
>>29316312
>200 rounds
Have you had the gun a week?
