>new czech pistol
>chambered in 7.5 FK
ho lee jesus
WHAT IS THAT
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
>>29273843
Saw a video on it. Looks bretty fuggin cool. Dude dropped an elk with the thing in 1 shot from 75m away.
>>29273843
>WHAT IS THAT
>WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
a gimmick
I don't give a shit what proprietary bullshit it's chambered in, the pistol is sexy.
>>29273843
oh hey, they're adding gas pedals to pistols now.
>>29273843
cartridge is supposed to have power similar to a .44 magnum, would love to see it take off
>>29273860
>1.5moa at 100m
>gimmick
Fuck off
Tokarev 2: Electric Czecholoo
>can pierce IIIA vest at 100m
absolutely based
most likely will be banned for having cop seeking bullets
>>29273858
I wanna see
They should submit it to be the next US military service pistol.
Screw the requirements. This pistol is actually useful in combat.
I'd love to see this take off as a round. Lots of energy, crazy accurate, penetrates armor, and is probably fun as hell to shoot.
Unless it gets popular among competition shooters it will probably just become another little known gucci round.
>>29273956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_DLohiGl0Y
>>29273843
Would be really nice to see 7.5 FK in a carbine
>>29274220
Got to get it past the ATF first.
>>29274265
I'd buy this in a heartbeat if approved
>>29274264
If this thing takes off I hope we see either a carbine or a PDW of some flavor next.
Would this be a good first gun? My budget is about $8k
>>29274816
Buy something cooler.
>>29273925
>that creamsicle grip
I really like the look of this gun except the channel under the barrel. Any one have an opinion why they didn't have straight walls on the side or a wedge shape instead of ditches?
>>29273843
Its like a CZ75 and a FN 1900 had a baby on a drunken 1 night stand while vodka drunk.
>>29274902
I dunno, I kind of like it. It reminds me of something that would be in an 80's movie about the future. Also the captcha can't tell me a fire extinguisher isn't food dammit.
This will be the next Bren Ten if it doesn't take off.
BUY THEM NOW BEFORE YOUR CHILDREN OGGLE THEM ON CAMBODIAN FINGER PUPPETRY FORUMS IN 30 YEARS
>>29273843
You better bring this to the US you fucking faggots fucks.
>>29274245
>low drag at hyper velocity
LOL, I mean I know it's accurate but literally low drag, high speed operating.
>>29275137
How much will it cost?
>>29275303
There was no mention whether it would be imported or not but checkers would be retarded not to.
So im guessing im gonna be looking a 2 threads a day for 3 more months about this thing huh. great
>>29275383
yep. Just like when a new game comes out and niggas start axing questions about the guns.
Sometimes it's hard to /k/
>>29273843
Do want
Where get
>>29275446
Czekystan
>>29275458
Why don't we just build a clone and manufactur it here in the states
>>29273843
What color paint is that? I want to stock up on spray cans for when I get one.
>>29275102
It strikes me that if they wanted to really go rule of cool they could have hollowed out that connecting space and replaced that support with some struts. Imagine if the recoil manager was free floating except for the connection at the trigger guard (which is necessary) and 2-4 arms connecting it the frame under the barrel.
>>29273919
>1.5
When I did the math it was .8 being as 100m is not the same as 100 yards
>>29274264
can you imagine the velocities?
>>29274902
because they didn't want to look like a Hellsing meme gun
>>29275604
what does that mean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j3_iPskjxk
>>29274245
Alright, I want one.
>>29273843
sir, a jelly donut, sir
>>29274245
>that gelatin test
>at 100 meters
Who needs hunting rifles, just give me that rk stuff to go innawoods
>>29276563
I want one just for hunting
Way lighter than a rifle and sub MOA *AND* with good enough sights to hit 100m targets?
Yes please
>>29276583
keep in mind you just watched a giant Youtube ad.
I'm sure there's lots of qualifications and buts involved
>>29276597
meh
it'll all come out in the end m8
I'm not going to buy one sight and review unseen
That's foolish
And even if it pulled 4 MOA, that's still pretty fucking good and the elk kill is incredibly impressive
Is this a new meme gun?
>>29276624
no one knows yet, mayne
if the claims they're making are true, it's a lot more like a Bren Ten
Something awesome no one can afford
>>29273843
I have my doubts. At best, I think it'll be horrifically expensive and prone to unreliability and slide cracking.
Hopefully I'll be proven wrong.
>>29276642
>unreliability
>slide cracking
Why on earth would you assume this
>>29276663
that's a big cartridge.
>>29276663
Engineering a handgun with gimmicky features, high precision, and a gigantic snowflake cartridge will definitely run into issues. If not in the design then in the manufacturing.
It's probably just a way to increase the market in countries where anything over 9mm is banned or restricted.
>>29276676
So what?
>>29276676
if you pulled of the slide, would it break?
>>29276692
because big boolet = higher pressures = more strain on parts
>>29276695
it would be extremely painful
>>29276692
>>29276676
its 7.5 and smaller than most other cartridges
>>29276683
>gimmicky features
such as?
>high precision
only issue with high precision is room for making it not high precision
>and a gigantic snowflake cartridge
It's really not that big
It's just a hot loaded 7.62 tok really
I can see unreliability when dirty due to tight fitting parts, but claiming the slide will crack is rather a bit too soon
>>29276703
they make CZ clones in 10mm which has more energy than this
>big bullet = higher pressures
That's not true at all
A 458 win mag makes less pressure than 308
By 9,000 psi in fact
>>29276729
less pressure... at a greater volume is more force, is it not?
>>29276737
>less pressure... at a greater volume is more force, is it not?
Pressure doesn't have an effect on force
Velocity does
And it's mass, not volume
Unless I am mistaking what you're asking about
>>29274108
If the US buys it maybe we can get their surplus to finally replace our High Powers.
>>29276743
>our
Who's our
Canada?
>>29276747
Yeah, pic was related.
>>29276743
>replace
>hi power
jesus fuck why?
>>29275137
>Bren Ten
>>29276755
>more powerful cartridge
>better range
>THAT FUCKING WOUND CAVITY
>>29276813
I agree with the spirit of your post but not its implications
>>29276755
Because a service pistol with decades of abuse isn't the legend you want to believe it is.
>>29274265
if the bullet doesn't meet the construction standards for AP, the ATF can sit on CZs dick and spin.
>>29276835
>CZ
>not Brno
different company fampai
>>29276832
I have one in my lap...from 1983...that was a service pistol at some point...its my go to handguns and ive owned more pistols than it would be worth remembering to count over my life.
>>29276742
>Pressure doesn't have an effect on force
American education. Kek
>>29276873
>force is not calculated as F=ma
Whatever you say, third worlder
>>29276844
Ironically, you'd be the last guy to get used to the browning when it came out
>>29276932
>>29276742
Pressure affects force. Force affects velocity. Cool ass-backwards logic, though.
>>29276844
Oh forgive me, your one example clearly means they're all excellent. I'm sure you bought one random gun sight unseen, right?
Of course not. You chose a decent gun, from a retailer who selects the best guns to sell for the highest profit.
>>29276932
>E=mc^2
>c affects E
That's your logic stupid amerifat
>>29276960
wat
>>29276989
nope
i saw it in a shitty pawn shop literally said ill buy it as soon as he said it was 350 and FN and i asked if he was sure it was a n and not a m
its a really great gun its a great design
praise be to our lord and savior John Moses Browning and His Apostles.
>>29276965
Pressure only effects force if there is motion you idiot
and tell me how chamber pressure will effect recoil, m8
I can reload a 308 at top pressure (62k psi) and only moves 2500 fps and it will recoil less than a round with 59k pressure and moving 2900 fps
The calculation of force DOES NOT take into account pressure
ONLY velocity will effect the calculation
Anyone have any idea what the dimensions of the cartridge is? Obviously 7.5mm but by what? 22mm? 23mm? May be high balling it, but it looks bigger than 19mm.
>>29276844
Problem is, pretty sure a lot of the HP's we have are originally from 1945.
>>29277047
people are saying it appears to be a necked 10mm mag
And, no, not 10mm auto
>>29277048
ah yeah that would be a problem
internal extractors didnt work so well on them as 1911s
not that my 100 year old 1911 doesnt still thump away like a champ....
>>29276737
>>29276742
p=F/A
Less pressure = less force/ same area
>>29277033
Jesus, you're so stupid. Pressure is calculated by dividing force by the area. Go back to high school
Recoil depends on a shit load of variables
>>29277068
Second world war surplus, nothing but the finest for our military.
>>29277077
>Recoil depends on a shit load of variables
If we're not talking about fucking recoil then what the hell does it matter if the gun has high pressure ammunition?
If the gun doesn't explode when firing it's completely irrelevant
>>29276755
These aren't some 10-year-old MKIIIs
All Hi Powers in the Forces are no newer than ~1945. Most of them barely function
>>29274245
>>29277086
>>29277097
I didnt know the syrup armys handguns were so decrepit...you moose fuckers should just give them all to me.
>>29277077
>Jesus, you're so stupid. Pressure is calculated by dividing force by the area. Go back to high school
>pressure does not inherently effect force
>yeah well force will effect pressure!!!!
are you retarded m8
>>29277086
>Reminder that in the '50s their potential replacement was a Hi Power clone in .45 Win. Mag.
>>29274245
>shooting a buck
>two shots
r00d
>>29277093
This is not simple math anon.
If you're firing from the same gun the same bullet, high pressure will cause greater recoil.
>>29277120
pretty sure that was a different one unless he moved for the second shot
>>29277118
Im too tired to bate anon stop
>>29277125
he did
>>29277123
not if the velocity hasn't changed
you're completely ignoring Newtons second law of motion
Unless your making the claim that the expanding gasses expelled from the barrel act as a rocket propelling the firearm
Because that force is so miniscule compared to the force of expelling a 100 gr projectile at 2000 fps that it's irrelevant to even factor in
>>29277127
A Canadian company came up with this thing, the Brigadier, to replace the Inglis Hi Power.
It is basically a single-stack (8 rounds) Hi Power with an aluminum slide, chambered in a comically overpowered cartridge. The gun never made it past prototypes, the cartridge was resurrected later as .45 Winchester Magnum
>>29277147
>aluminum slide
>slide mounted safety
My life is disappointment and sadness.
>>29277147
>aluminum slide
>45 Win mag
Dude what
>>29277156
what does everyone have against them?
I had no problem with it on my 59
Granted that was a decocker not a safety
Is it simply a thing that people hate on single actions?
>>29277113
Of course it doens't "inherently" effect force, only mass or acceleration. But you are suppose to calculate the force by knowing the chamber pressure in the first place.
>>29277139
Of course the velocity will change. You gonna have more force(pressure) driving the same bullet from the same gun
>>29274245
>buck doesn't die
>hangs out at least long enough for them to move up the camera crew for a followup shot
Pretty lame to be quite honest.
>>29277161
I think its stupid from a design perspective....also i can never reach them from a normal grip.
anyway...im gonna find my frog pajamas eat a couple xanax some serequel and a couple of muscle relaxers with a shot or 2 and go to sleep for a good 12 hours or forever.
>>29277166
>But you are suppose to calculate the force by knowing the chamber pressure in the first place.
No you don't
That's not true at all
Again, you can load a 2500 fps load at max pressure and have lower force than you would loading a 2900 fps load to a lower pressure
Pressure does not effect recoil
You're now ignoring Newtons third law
The force you put on the bullet will also be put into your shoulder
If you up the velocity, you will up the force
If you up the pressure, nothing will change unless velocity changes
>Of course the velocity will change. You gonna have more force(pressure) driving the same bullet from the same gun
You're fucking stupid
Pic related why
Both of those loads will recoil exactly the same
>>29277047
26 mm case length.
trimmed and necked-down 10 mm magnum case.
>>29277184
>xanax
use phenibut
it's not completely debilitating
>>29277192
pressure is force per area. you can calculate a projectile's muzzle velocity with pressure, but you need the integral of pressure over time, not peak pressure.
>>29277198
i want to be completely debilitated
hence the serequel
>>29277216
why? you suicidal?
>>29277209
you can calculate velocity with pressure so long as you know the burn rate of the powder and that the burn rate is consistent, which unless the casing is a compressed load, you simply cannot know
But that's completely off topic
And I used a terrible example because I'm comparing CUP to PSI
MY BAD
A correct example
As you can see, a 500 psi difference and the velocity is SLOWER
>>29277234
better example
>>29277232
only slightly
shell be back tomorrow though
night you piss washed pig fucking pagans
>>29277232
>he saved my crop
Thanks pham
>>29277251
why are you depressed?
>mfw my father takes seroquel and has been diagnosed with bipolar for like 30 + years
that shit never struck me as something to fuck around with, same with lithium.
>>29277254
its an awesome crop, ive been niggering like every reaction pic i see because i built a new pc when my hd blew up.
>>29277266
kek has blessed you my son
>>29277234
>you can calculate velocity with pressure so long as you know the burn rate of the powder and that the burn rate is consistent
you could also measure the pressure over time.
my point is simply that the integral of pressure over time determines velocity (among other, less important factors), whereas peak pressure doesn't.
>>29277192
>why magnum rounds kick harder
>>29277297
pic related.
>>29277305
Do you have other graphs with higher pressure?
>>29277297
>>29277298
>>29277305
the original argument was that more pressure would put more strain on parts
that is not true
so long as the gun does not deform or explode under operating conditions, the added force will not increase wear
ONLY MORE FORCE WILL
And FORCE is only effected by an increase in velocity or mass
as you can clearly see here>>29277247
pressure does not directly correlate to force
>>29277341
shut up fag you douches arguing over pressure don't even own guns.
>>29277359
>your house
>>29277341
Nope.
The force is only affected by the propellant.
>>29277359
>>29277365
>The force is only affected by the propellant.
>a heavier bullet moving the same velocity will not have an effect on force
I guess I'll throw away all my 308 and just start shooting 5.56 from now on
>>29277370
>>29277359
>>29273843
All Trump has to do to win the election is say he'll bring this to the states. even grabbers would vote for him and buy one.
>>29277378
What moves the bullet, idiot? Mass by itself doesn't do anything.
>>29277390
I'm just joining whatever shitfest is going on. but fuck, dude. -5/10.
>>29277394
this
>>29277390
Is that right, /k/?
>>29277410
yeah more pressure makes the bullet move faster, kinda like when you take a shit after taco bell and gas propels the diarrhea at hyper speed, vrs a normal shit.
>>29277341
>the original argument was that more pressure would put more strain on parts
>that is not true
it's not necessarily true. it depends on what stresses are critical. e.g. the locking lugs of ARs have a limited lifespan, and their stress is caused by bolt thrust, which depends on peak pressure. recoil-operated firearms are usually mostly stressed by the battering of parts through recoil forces, which aren't determined by peak pressure.
>>29277689
which is why a higher pressure round was irrelevant to the life of the pistol
>>29276676
For you...
>>29273843
Most seem mystified by the brass, but is anyone else wondering what fucking bullets are they calling 7.5mm? Are they proprietary as well, or are they just naming it that to sound good?
>>29278651
I'm just asking...
But can we use rifle bullets in handgun cartridges? Like a AK or 308 bullet in a 7.62 tok or a 7.5 swiss in this new snowflake meme cartridge?
>>29273843
Shame Hillary will ban it
>>29277010
You could just post without the pictures you know.
>>29279572
They claim 880 ft*lbs and 2000 fps, so the bullets would be ~50 grains.
>>29275383
It's going to be like the msbs rifle you'll see and everything about but will never see it in the market until years later
>put 10 rounds in kebab
looks like I had 75 fucks to give
>7,5 mm FUCK
>>29277139
>Unless your making the claim that the expanding gasses expelled from the barrel act as a rocket propelling the firearm
I'll just leave this here.
https://what-if.xkcd.com/21/
>>29277181
I don't know why they didn't just waste him earlier.
>>29275591
You are literally retarded.
>>29273919
>implying you'd ever be able to come close to that with a pistol
>implying that you'd even notice the difference between a pistol capable of 1.5 MOA and a pistol capable of 4 MOA like modern service pistols can do
What you just stated is literally a gimmick.
>>29274220
>crazy accurate
>implying how accurate a gun is depends on the ammo it shoots and not the construction of the gun itself
I want the noguns to leave.
>>29282700
Then why is you here?
Go put some surplus in a SVD and post groups.
I'll be waiting here.
>>29276842
You do realise Brno is owned by CZ right?
>>29282774
Fiat owns Chrysler hommie.
>>29282717
I was talking about what cartridge the gun shoots, not the quality of the ammo. Accidentally deleted the post and left some out when retyping it quickly.
>>29276676
For you
>>29282774
and Beretta owns Sako
>>29283705
and I owned you with my 50 cal
>>29282700
Except the ammo does have an impact in accuracy. Some rounds are affected more or less by wind, more or less drop, ect.
Not to mention that they were shooting at a 100 yard target with this pistol and round and claiming 1.5" groups, so that's pretty damn accurate for a semi auto pistol.
Can I just get it in 10mm instead?
>>29285657
No. They're trying to force a meme here. They can't afford to divide their focus.
