http://news.yahoo.com/argentine-coast-guard-sinks-chinese-fishing-boat-202047682.html
So the idiot argies just sunk a Chinese fishing boat. What will the Chinese attack on Argentina or its navy look like?
Ok I'm about to bug out for a few days in case this escalates, see ya /k/.
>>29270634
>Boat was fishing illegal
>Everybody on-board is rescued before it sinks
Wow it's literally nothing.
Eigh... The Chinese will probably execute the fishermen when they get home anyways...
>>29270634
What's with asians fishing other countries waters so much?
>>29270727
Are fish are berong to squint.
Chinese fishing boats fish illegally, EVERYWHERE!
They also are used routinely as platform for state spying operations.
Japan stops, arrests, seizes, and returns illegal Chinese fishers all the time.
we should sink all illegal fisher boats
but the marxist governments are too much a buncha pussies to do things like that
>>29270727
Low respect for the law, especially international law.
Doesn't China use "fishing boats" in the loosest sense? Wasn't it like, a spy boat?
>>29270727
The Pacific ocean is drastically over-fished. If you want a big catch you gotta go where the fish are.
did this fishing boat really sail all the way from china to argentina? blue water navy confirmed
>>29270852
Does Argentina have anything worth spying on these days?
>>29270844
they should just start executing them samurai style on the decks of the ships that they were caught on to be honest family
>>29270727
Imagine just how important fishery resources are to a country without the arable pastureland or grain fields for a beef/poultry industry even 1/20th the per populace size of the US.
The more urbanized and industrialized China gets, especially while battling pollution and hydro project consequences, the more difficult yet essential it gets for them to maintain something close to sustenance food production. Fishery operations fill a massive dietary need for the Chinese people, as well as trade opportunities, and the SCS and ECS fisheries have been so historically taxed that they're forced to go further and further.
By the by, they're still actively engaged in destroying what fishery/sea life habitat resources are left in the SCS, with their fucking idiots going about the SCS islands in fucking outboard motor craft and using their props and skin divers to harvest reefs. They literally grind the reef up, and I'm not even talking about the island building operations. They've got thousands of yahoos out there in open motorboats just destroying and removing sealife and the reefs themselves, and they then can't fucking grok why their fisheries are extremely depleted.
The Chinese are the equivalent of 18th century Europeans when it comes to harvesting natural resources, except they actually understand the science of why what they're doing is fucking retarded and persist anyway.
>>29270921
They would just go back and whine to their home country (if any escaped).
>>29270690
This.
>>29270955
never forget the six quadrillion comfort women
>>29270634
>>29270649
>Argies are about to get ass raped again within the last 40 years.
What a time to be alive, I'll bet in heaven Princess Diana and young Margaret Thatcher are busy sucking off the shrimp dick of the ghost of Mao in joy over the upcoming removal of spics.
>>29270937
some reading.
http://www.globalmeatnews.com/Industry-Markets/No-end-in-sight-for-China-s-cattle-shortage
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/china-beef-cattle-farming-industry-and-beef-market-report-2015-2019-300134710.html
http://www.fao.org/docrep/v0600t/v0600t07.htm
>>29271034
It's not even just China, that entire region has seen a 300% jump in export demand just in two years, and it's still climbing at a slower rate. This means that market competition in the region for US, Australian, Argentinian, etc. red meat is fierce and there are few local outlets for the resource. Smuggled black market beef from India, of all places, makes up a significant black market percentage (the black market for beef in China is nearly as large as the legitimate market by some measures).
Fishery rights are incredibly important to them as an offset. I would say it drives a significant portion of their SCS aggressiveness, as well as the other claimants.
>>29270634
>What will the Chinese attack on Argentina or its navy look like?
I'm going to bet "hilarious".
>>29270634
>Mfw when argies btfo again
>Becomes vassal state of chinar
>>29271071
>china will invade argentina for their beef
>>29270634
>Falklands War 2
God, I hope so. I would love to see the Argies make a few new artificial reefs off the coast.
They had a good shot at the British fleet, and put some tonnage on the ocean floor. Against the Chinese fleet I'm sure they would have even greater success. As far as air superiority is concerned, who knows. It would be fun to watch though.
>>29271103
>Chinese send carrier with escort ships
>Argentina sends it's A-4's, ships, and it's broken ass icebreaker
>Icebreaker is first to sink an somehow blocks chink subs who think it's a whale and try to hunt it
>Argentina fires and scores one hit on the carrier
>Carrier tries to launch but the clearance is mistaken for HUEHUEHUEHUE and the plane winds up rocketing off the deck and straight into the ocean
>Turns out nobody brought enough ammo or fuel so it turns into chinks and argies yelling profanities at each other while the brits watch from the falklands and laugh their asses off
>Chinks get a tow from the brazilians back to china
>Royal navy sinks argie fleet for lulz
>Argentinians last words: "ARGENTINA IS WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE!"
>>29271116
Also
>Norinco starts producing fire arms in the new slave state
>starts selling cheap firearms and munitions to the hues
> Favela War I begins
Post the video
>>29271141
>As far as air superiority is concerned, who knows
that's a joke right? you're being sarcastic?
>>29271151
Thats too glorious
Well I suppose thats one naval victory for the argies
>>29270634
Can China even send a CBG beyond regional waters? I don't think so as they are still listed as a very limited with their power projection.
But we'll see.
>>29271251
Considering the Russians can't send their Kuznetsov more than 100mi without an ocean going tug, I'll believe it when I see it.
>>29271116
Aw shit nigga, is that Hamtaro?
>>29271251
The Chinese carrier is in for repairs last I checked, it can't even project power in the South China Sea, hence they built fucking islands.
>>29270634
Good on the Argies. Slave owning fucks deplete fishing stocks and put the locals out of business once stocks are wiped. Then the bastards keep fishing anyway.
>>29271280
You know it familia
>>29271251
if they could, which way to the argies would they take?
around Indonesia etc through the atlantic and piss off everyone they pass?
or across the pacific and potentially be shadowed by the USN?
>argie and chink navy do battle whilst surrounded by a neutral USN that denies any vessel from leaving the 'arena'
>>29271272
>>29271286
I'd like to see them pull something off, just to see the logistical effort alone and learning the hard way to operate as a CBG.
>>29271321
>the USN sets up drones to capture live footage, and sets up a pay per view channel
I'd watch it.
>>29271353
I will never watch argentina burn to crisp on a big glorious HD flatscreen tv while drinking beer and eating chips
>>29271151
>Icebreaker is first to sink an somehow blocks chink subs who think it's a whale and try to hunt it
i think you are mixing china with japan there buddy
>>29271301
>>29271116
>tfw nostalgic as fuck for hamtaro
like anime is fine, most of my nerdy interests are fine but this makes me feel weird
>>29271396
>I know that feel man
Most operator hamster
>>29270889
Hundreds of nude/topless beaches and a lot of healthy white people?
>>29271416
Best waifu.
>>29271428
>argentina
>white
>>29271428
>He fell for the argentina being white meme
>>29271447
How do i get ninja hamsters?
>>29271455
>thinking the argies, or most of south america, isn't white as fuck
>what is colonialism
>>29271468
>put hamsters in full cover black clothes
>keep them away from copies of the quran
>>29271455
Not saying it is, just saying that the majority of the nude beaches (well, beaches in general) attract white tourists and the handful of white Argentinians with enough money for any form of vacation.
>>29271476
Indigenous/white rapebabies aren't white.
t. a rapebaby
>>29271476
ARGENTINA ES BLANCO
>>29271477
Wont the atf conficate them
>Hillary Clinton proposes a bill to ban assault hamsters
>>29271476
Having traveled all over South America I can say that from what I saw the "whitest" SA country was Bolivia, and it was still under 15% white.
Argentina has maybe 250,000 white people in it. Yes, they're in a lot of important positions (either governmentally or financially), but they're still only like 8% of the population.
>>29271034
Beef is a luxury food though.
>>29271506
>confiscate
hamsters are tiny dogs, dude, they'll shoot 'em
>>29271493
>whiterapebabis not white
Then most of the US isn't white.
>>29271509
Not in literally any first world country.
>>29271518
I mean I don't know peoples' exact histories but I'm American and almost everyone I know is phenotypically completely white. I'm not, and I'm wear I draw the line.
>>29271395
Shut up, ping pong.
>>29271513
I knew shillary was the devil
>>29271476
>>29271542
>what is spain/portugal
>>29271553
>portugal
>white
t. alberto barbosa
>>29271476
>>29271428
>>29271518
The AIDF is sure strong
>>29271428
>white people
>>29271569
>>29271566
>what is genetics
>>29270937
>why their fisheries are extremely depleted.
Everyones fisheries are depleted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlJm3IBTEo
>The Chinese are the equivalent of 18th century Europeans when it comes to harvesting natural resources, except they actually understand the science of why what they're doing is fucking retarded and persist anyway.
They don't give a fuck. They have quotas to meet.
>>29271572
>you absolutely have to live in a place to use its world-famous vacation spots
K den
>>29271553
>>29271579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SjgYMLJW0k
>>29271589
>Everyones fisheries are depleted.
Yeah, this is a bad argument. China hauls over three times the next national industry. Pic related from 2010, and it's gotten worse since.
>>29271589
>>29271625
And then there's also pic related
>>29271616
>what is paying a poor guy to say what you want
newfag
>>29271589
>everyone's fisheries are depleted
Because China won't stay in their own waters and fishes out everyone else's.
>>29270634
Hold on!! 1509 years ago, chinese ships of the Jung empire were sailing in those waters. Those waters are sovereign waters of China! How dare they shoot on our fishin vessels. When we are done building our islands in the south China sea, the south Atlantic will be next.
>>29271321
>US navy sailors and marines webcam ing the battle, set up a March Madness Deathmatch pool.
I'm putting my cash on China.
>>29271665
he offers a service which you pay for. Its up to him to either take the offer or reject it.
>>29270634
So will all the inroads the Chinese made in Argentina both militarily and diplomatically at risk?
China is building a military base in the south of Argentina and they have an agreement which allows China to build comms equipment in the Patagonia
>>29271589
China and India need to get into a gigantic war that kills 90% of their populations
>>29270690
I fucking hope its nothing
>>29271790
>the population of the earth is reduced by more than a third
I actually would be alright with that
>>29271790
That sounds pretty intense anon
>>29271524
I mean it in the sense that it is a figurative cash crop. Having to import beef is as much as a problem as having to import coffee. You don't eat this stuff for the calories.
>>29271790
Only if Pakistan goes down with them.
>>29271931
why stop there? rope the entire middle east into a three way blitz between them, india, and china
I'm pretty sure there'd be prosperity for the next 500 years at least
>>29271675
>Because China won't stay in their own waters and fishes out everyone else's.
Pretty much everyone else also overfishes. China isn't much worse in most ways. They just do their shit more blatantly.
>>29271790
Make it happen in Africa as continent wide series of proxy conflicts... ending up real war.
>>29271992
>Pretty much everyone else also overfishes. China isn't much worse in most ways. They just do their shit more blatantly.
See >>29271625
>>29271655
Literally three times worse than anyone else.
>>29271992
>chinese apologists
The worst.
>>29271428
>>29272022
They have enough people paid for do it, they don't need shills here doing it for free.
>>29271286
>Guys, our navy is shit and lacks force projection in the region because our aircraft carriers don't work
>What if we built stationary aircraft carriers?
Fucking China.
>>29272018
>>29272022
>Literally three times worse than anyone else.
Lets put that shit per capita... looks very different when you take population into account.
Western countries and Japan for instance do their illegal fishing mostly on African coast where locals have no way to enforce their exclusive economic areas or even territorial waters.
>>29272454
okay wu dong
>>29272454
>Lets put that shit per capita...
No. It makes far more sense to consider it per coastline/access to fisheries. It's a finite self-replenishing resource. It's not like labor statistics where per-capita actually influences supply.
>>29271428
>white
>>29272454
>Western countries and Japan for instance do their illegal fishing mostly on African coast where locals have no way to enforce their exclusive economic areas or even territorial waters.
A source on this? Info I've seen suggests the Chinese are actually by far the biggest offenders in this.
>>29270634
>The Second Falklands War
>Electric boogaloo
>>29272345
50centers only get paid on domestic sites.
>>29271141
>I would love to see the Argies make a few new artificial reefs off the coast.
Why, is the General Belgrano getting lonley down there all by itself?
>>29272502
The source is his ass and Chinese propaganda.
There are more Chinese fishing boats than there are Japanese, US, UK, Australian, and Canadian fishing boats COMBINED. China fishes (illegally) along every coast in the world from Antarctica to Maryland to Norway.
>>29272587
>fishing that far away from China
Imagine how rotten and horrid the fish will be once they get back.
>>29272622
Are you unaware of this miracle technology we now have of... wait for it... FREEZERS or ICEMAKERS?
>>29272587
But he's right though. When Europe fishes illegally, they go to Africa. Where do you think they go?
>>29270845
>we should sink all illegal fisher boats
>but the marxist governments are too much a buncha pussies to do things like that
A Peronist government literally just sank one. that's close enough
>>29272726
shameful samefag
>Where do you think they go?
Depends, and yes, some of it is in Africa, but primarily Greenland.
>>29272640
Somehow I doubt chinks even use freezers on their fishing boats
>>29270852
>Doesn't China use "fishing boats" in the loosest sense? Wasn't it like, a spy boat?
Yes and yes. Hence the term "trawler"
>>29270937
>grok
Let's be friends
>>29272849
m8, if you're buddies with that bear and he doesn't try to eat my asshole with salmon puree, you're on.
>>29270634
Nothing. They like each other and the Chink government gives zero shits about citizens abroad. See 1998 Indonesia anti-Chink riots.
Also, dat ass
>>29271034
When you get money you import meat. Wow what an observation!
>>29271286
Funny how often I have to post this picture
>>29271428
>""""""white""""""
>"""""""""""""""people""""""""""""""
my offer is this: nothing, not even the salmon you've sunk
>>29273331
>protein dietary necessities/suppliments consumption levels/demand is not inextricably linked to population
anon. for the love of fuck.
>>29271625
China also has five times the people of Indonesia
They also have a massive coastline in one of the (formerly) most productive fishing regions in the world.
>>29270727
The ChiComs are thugs with no respect for maritime law. You been living under a rock?
>>29273302
Wrong fag Indos sucked chink dick after to try and get some of that commie money and now they are scared shitless of a powerful China who might rape them like a bunch of island Tibets/Xinjings, which is hilarious since they are just shitskin muzzie chinks who are racist.
>>29272475
Oh so Sudan deserves no fish?
It should be a balance between sovereign water fishing rights and per capita if you're trying to compare. Both factors matter.
Fishing in International waters is allowed by the way. The SCS and East of Japan are highly productive fishing regions that are mostly international waters outside their EEZ's.
>>29273426
Keep denying reality>>29271071
When countries get rich they import luxury foods.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL2N0WL2B820150319
>Industry sources estimated last year that hundreds of thousands of tonnes of beef from countries such as Brazil and India are smuggled into China through Hong Kong and Vietnam.
>The unofficial trade reflects China's hunger for beef, as the growing middle class demands more high-protein food.
>>29273430
Once more for the short bus, responsible use of limited self-replenishing resources like wild game, fish or even hydro-electric power production is dependent not upon population, but upon responsible harvesting of said resource. You said it right in your post:
>one of the (formerly) most productive fishing regions in the world.
None of your caveats change the fact that China is currently, by several multiples, the worst offender in long-term fishery depletion and habitat destruction (reefs are inextricably tied to fishery population in the SCS, mkay?).
>>29273478
Per capita needs/demand has absolutely fuck all to do with access to fishery resources. Not in international law or practical reality. It only drives what nations and fishing industries are willing to do to get access to fisheries. Geographical location of the fisheries in relation to a nation's coastline is by far the largest variable in practical access, followed closely by your ability to defend and regulate those fisheries.
Similarly EEZs are little more than shit tickets without the geographical access and capability to impose your will on the area.
>>29273531
Thank you, Captain Simple. Maybe you can also reduce the various drivers of population growth down to a pithy 10 fucking words for me, too.
>>29273531
>The unofficial trade reflects China's hunger for beef, as the growing middle class demands more high-protein food.
So, you're suggesting that an actually balanced died which would actually fulfill their children's dietary needs is somehow "luxury foods".
Just fuck off.
>>29273531
Daily reminder that Chinese consumption of dietary protein is second lowest in the G20, after only India.
>Literally on a level with Brazil, Iran and Algeria
Yup. Sure. Totally a luxury dietary import.
>>29273695
Holy kek.
>#51
>after Hungary
>after Belarus
>after Ukraine
>after Morocco
>after Egypt
>after Tunisia
>after Cyprus
>after Albania
>after Slovenia
>after Maldives
>after Turkey
>after fucking French Polynesia
>>29273695
What is your point? They don't eat as much protein as first world countries? They are literally third world. It makes sense...
But China's imports of meat have risen dramatically just as their economy has grown dramatically. That makes sense as well.
Tell me the last time chicken or pork was more expensive than beef. Beef is a luxury meat in third world shitholes.
Stop taking anything at all you may think is pro-China as being 50 cent or proxy chink. I'm just pointing out reality. When you have more money you buy better meat.
>>29273634
>beef is the only source of dietary needed protein
Are you actually this retarded?
>>29271589
>Everyones fisheries are depleted.
Ehh... mostly correct. Some areas are depleted more than others.
Canada and Spain got into some shit about... 15-20 years ago, over fishing on the Grand Banks. I think we ended up extending our sea boundries to deal with it, but before that we had a lot of confrontations between their fishing boars and our coast guard and navy.
>>29272587
Not entirely out of his ass.
I don't know who was responsible, but one of the things that gave rise to Somali piracy was the fact that after the government collapsed ships from all over the place would sale up to fish, or dump toxic waste, right off the coast. It's since developed into a life of its own, but early on a lot of the pirates were fishermen without any fish, but a lot of anger, a boat, and enough guns floating around the country to make an easy career change.
>>29273583
Citation needed
Also, are you daft?
China has 5 times more people. Therefore if it fishes 3 times more than the Indonesia it's fishing less per capita.
Indonesia is the real asshole here. They fish way more than their population justifies.
Fishing in international waters is 100% legal. China has the ability to fish there, so somehoe they are worse for doing it?
America produced twice the CO2 1970-present of anyone else. Does that mean America is bad for being wealthy enough to own cars?
>>29270937
They have the fourth largest land area in the world and outstrip America in the production of the majority of produce. Like hell they don't have enough fields.
>>29270997
Nothing wil happen to my motherland, nigger
>>29273765
Battle of the third world here
>costa rica
>Argentina
>fucking Nauru!
>>29272574
He made friends with the indestructible/unsinkable or whatever its name is called
>>29273891
Jesus. Read the fucking thread. Anon clearly pointed out that dietary protein demand was growing very fast in China vis-a-vis Chinese fuckery worldwide with fisheries, and then used beef imports as an example of this economic driver. Are you really this daft?
>>29273966
>literally cannot into logic or econ 101
just fuck off.
>Does that mean America is bad for being wealthy enough to own cars?
Nope. It means America was really, really shitty at policing itself when it comes to CO2 regulation and mitigation. Of course, the difference here is that the science was not yet crystal clear on the effects of this in 1970, whereas the science on overharvesting fisheries has been mature since the early 20th century. The only changes since have been upgrading population estimation tools and better understanding proper levels for individual species in a given ecosystem.
It is possible to criticize one's own country for fucking up. Just because I and other anons point out how China is fucking up does not mean we believe the US never fucked up. That's just retarded.
>>29273972
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.LND.ARBL.ZS?order=wbapi_data_value_2013+wbapi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc
The US and China are nearly the same size. The US is 16.6% arable land as of 2013. That same year, China was 11.3% arable land with over 4 times the population.
There is very little arable land in China right now that is not utilized for agriculture, especially when one considers that due to the impact of large hydro projects the best farmlands in China are no longer as fertile and require more outlay in fertilizer. This is not the case in the US - a very large percentage of arable land in the US is still unexploited by ag industry.
>>29274008
>doesn't even include the title of the table or any indication what it's about
ok kid
>>29271353
This is how I like to imagine a Trump presidency.
>>29273972
That's because they have less unexploited farmland than Europe, whereas the US has the most in the world. Pic related.
>>29271518
Lmao, most Americans are 100% European
Good good
Argentinians clearly do not know the difference between heaven and earth. Bullying Innocent Chinese fishermen is the same as bullying China. It will be easy for China to stop the businesses of Argentinian Carlos Lim like ripping folded paper. The world should look at this and fear Chinese retribution.
>tfw you realize the USA could really cut themselves off from the rest of the world
Would they even need food imports if they ramped up farming?
>>29274434
>Would they even need food imports if they ramped up farming?
We'd be missing a ton of imported foods that we've come to take for common and granted, but we certainly wouldn't starve. In fact, we could feed ourselves, Mexico and Canada and have enough grain left over for even higher beef production than current levels.
>>29271372
No, you wont.
>>29274434
The US is currently self sufficient. Most ag imports are the products that are cheaper to import than to grow domestically. This, in turn, frees up acreage for growing the high-return crops.
>>29271455
>>29271493
>>29271476
>>29271508
>>29271542
>>29271569
>>29273388
We're white you fucking mongoloids, probably whiter than you. And that ignorant idiot who mentioned Bolivia being the whitest, it's actually the opposite. They're probably the least white country in South America. Argentina, Uruguay and Canada are the whitest countries in The Americas, and whiter than the US,
And you britshits can suck my cock, you only won the war because Chile and other countries helped you, otherwise we would have raped you like we did two times, in 1806 and 1807, get that in your tiny heads you toothless bastards.
>>29276413
Let it go, man. Burgers are fat, Swedes are Muslim, Greeks are poor, Russians are drunk, Indians eat poo and you are black.
Kudos on having the first new world Pope, though!
>>29276413
Calm down Argentina, don't let those tears ruin that lovely white complexion
>>29276413
Go throw more stones at presenters you monkey
>>29276413
>>29276413
Don't worry, I had an argentinean coworker named Kirchner who was blonde, blue eyed aryan German descent.
Her brother was a plumber, though...
>>29276413
Jesus. I thought Malaysia Stronk! was a wacko nationalist.
Margaret Thatcher had an election to win and the ability to raise the temperature in Buenos Aires to 6000 degrees C.
You were never going to win. Argies are the Black Lives Matter of South America.
>>29277740
And plumbers are all the same race, or what?
>>29277880
No just menial laborers like Mexicans, Italians and Polish.
How long till the argies ask the brits based on the Falklands to help defend Argentina?
it amazes me how this hasn't shown up yet.
