Okay so I'm gonna go on a backpacking trip from Florida to Arizona, mostly on foot maybe a bus every now and then, what's the best gun I should have? I'm 18 so no handguns yet
>>29136237
perhaps an AR?
or you could get a mossberg 500, pistol grip only. would be easy to sling around and it will work on most woodland creatures quite effectively
The mossberg sounds nice, I'll be in the urban most of the time anyway
Sub2k so you can actually stow it away and not look like a psychopath brandishing a firearm.
I think you'll want something you can keep hidden pretty easily, meaning most rifles are out. You could carry a pistol grip shotgun in a large backpack, but you might not have easy access to it. Also, I'm not sure you can bring guns on busses, or how closely you are checked, so look into that. Too bad handgun laws are stupid, because that makes the most sense to me for backpacking.
>>29136266
Can't buy pistol grip shotguns under 21
>>29136237
You can own a handgun, you just can't buy one from a FFL.
>>29136237
>>29136237
If money is no object
>Chiappa takedown 1892
If you're a poorfag looking to save your neetbux
>takedown ruger 10/22
If you want to into CAS and be a hipster >Remington 1858. Cheap plus handgun without the age restriction.
>>29136432
In addendum to this anon's post:
BP is inadvisable for any kind of adverse conditions. If you can't keep the powder dry and stored properly, it's over.
If you really have to go with BP, consider cartridge conversions and roll your own. They'll fare much better.
Take care on your journey, Kino.
>>29136423
But if you're going through state lines why risk the felony for owning a handgun underage?
>>29136473
Peaceable journey. It's the fair use of travel.
>>29136473
Oh, and it's not a felony to own a handgun underage. As I said, you just can't legally purchase one through a FFL. Gift or private sale is kosher.
>>29136402
Oh I'm sorry. I thought this was America.
>>29136467
I can't see how that would be overly difficult, even for a trip like OP is suggesting.
If you aren't smart enough to take care of your weapon you probably aren't smart enough to own it.
That being said BP is absolutely not the best choice. It's mostly for shiggles and if you wanted something more concealable than a rifle.
Tomahawk and pepper spray
Pistol is ideal but even if you were 21 you'd have to check on reciprocity of ccw between each state you plan to hit.
Rifle or shot gun will add a lot of weight for a very small chance you would have to use it.
Pepper spray is easy to conceal in a pocket and get to quickly if you need it.
You can take the axe head off a traditional tomahawk easily and strap the handle to your pack. That way the handle is in easy reach if you need it quick and it's a versatile tool when your not in urban areas.
>>29136402
uhh, yeah you can. go to classic firearms.com and look up the mossberg persuader with the pistol grip only. You can buy it if you are 18 or over
>>29136577
Op here, the tomahawk idea sounds pretty based, I'm a pretty /fit/ guy so 7 pounds or so really won't be much of an issue, pistol grip mossberg 500 currently has my vote, I can keep it in a leather case and it shouldn't be much of an issue, so far I'm just having trouble finding cheap buckshot but other than that 500 has me going
>>29136365
ITT: everyone ignores the only non-retarded answer.
>>29136696
You'll pay about 40cpr for buckshot.
Do you already have all of your backpacking gear? A trekking backpack should be able to fit a pistol grip shotty.
You kinda sound like you've never done this, because 7 pounds is a shit ton on the trail, especially when you're going cross country.
That being said, I wouldn't take anything more than 1 box of ammo, and at that I would probably keep the gun full of buckshot without OIC, and keep a shell holder full of slugs in my pack.
Practice with the shotgun too, they are hell on your wrists.
>>29136702
>find a sub 2k for sale
>not a retarded idea
We're recommending OP a gun, not sending him on a wild goose chase.
>>29136237
Peaceable journey describes a state A to state B travel, which may impact OPs itinerary.
It also desribes a firearm kept out of ready use and stored separately from any ammunition. Certain states and cities require continuous travel, which is why I got a personal police escort from the NYPD.
If he intends to carry a loaded handgun, he will need a concealed carry permit (some states will issue at 18) or to open carry, if legal. If concealed, he needs to ensure reciprocity along his journey. Many state and municipal governments will have their own restrictions, particularly on open carry.
Much of the same applies to a long arm, peaceable journey describes it being kept out of ready use and separate from ammunition. Open carry laws are whatever.
Keep in mind, most law enforcement know nothing of the law they enforce and will act beyond their power, especially with someone who is unlikely to stick around and fight it.
OP, your best bet is a pistol. Buy a cheap handgun private party, which is legal, and keep it out of sight. Get a carry permit, if possible in your state. If not, just don't be an aspie, don't get caught, and ditch it if need be.
Also, fuck black powder. It is sensitive as shit to moisture, slow to load, and will require carrying a antiquated set of tools, powder, balls, and caps which will likely be hard to replace during the trip. Also, some states classify a loaded blackpowder arm as a firearm, though I don't know about Florida though Arizona specifically.
>>29136764
>le impossible to find keltec meme
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=545504735
>>29136773
Fun fact, when folded, the sub2k legally counts as disassembled and can therefore be kept loaded.
>>29136696
sadly you won't be able to take any weapons you can't concealing your bag on a bus.
What if you buy be willing to part with it.
22 revlolvers seem to be best for backpacking. 120 bucks rough rider would suit you're purposes.
>>29136781
While peaceable journey generally refers to vehicles, federal law describes a firearm as:
(3) The term "firearm" means
(A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to
or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an
explosive;
(B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon;
(C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or
(D) any destructive device.
Such term does not include an antique firearm.
A disassembled gun is still a gun, so long as it has an intact receiver. This is the same as when I transport one of my shotguns for clays shooting. It's still a gun.
>>29136860
Sorry, did someone say it didn't count as a gun?
>>29136488
>Gift or private sale is kosher.
That doesn't mean you can carry it by being underage, anon. Perhaps you should look up state laws.
>>29136868
No, only that it could be loaded (carried with ammunition). As a firearm, under peaceable journey, they would have to separate, even if the firearm is disassembled. If disassembled, it is arguably "unaccessible" bit still needs to have ammunition stored separately.
Peaceable journey is written for vehicles, though a backpack is arguably a container.
>>29136905
Peaceable journey need not apply.
Get a .40 hi point carbine and do the 10mm conversion OP
>reliable and effective at decent distances
>lighter ammo than slugs
>can cut off a lot of the plastic to shave several pounds
>it's just a hi-point, saw the butt off and screw a hinge with a spring in there, side folding stock magic for easy storage and tactically clearing your tent
>can kill bears
>will look like a post-apocalypse wanderer
Pic related, it's what $300, two hours and a trip to home depot will get you minus the suppressor
>>29136237
yuropoor here
why would you need to carry a gun to walk from point A to point B in your country? or is this one of those "i want to feel like a cowboy" things
>>29137221
Bears, meth heads, ect...
>>29137221
You'll soon see with your mudslime invasion.
>>29137221
He's traveling a couple thousand miles across some very sparsely populated land. There's plenty of wildlife and questionable individuals in that distance. Better to be prepared than not.
>>29137306
most of the muslims are going back home now that we told them they have to do bullshit work for their government neetbux
>>29137303
bears don't attack humans except in fringe cases, like if you get near their cubs and shit. i've been taught that the best way to deal with a bear is to either stand your ground and yell at it until it goes away, or yell at it while slowly walking backwards. bears are cowards most of the time man, there's no need to shoot them
also do meth heads live in the woods now or something? i thought they just lived in the shitty parts of town and stuff. what if you just, you know, didn't walk around in the shitty parts of town while armed? then you wouldn't have to even risk taking another man's life
i do live in a euro cunt so maybe i just don't understand american culture. to me, going out on a massive hike while armed to the teeth just comes off as a typical cowboy power fantasy thing, like planning for the zombie apocalypse or daydreaming of shooting a burglar
>>29137346
He is walking literally THOUSANDS of miles, anything can happen, why wouldn't he want to be prepared? Also it's the south, need to protect yourself from chupacabras
>>29137346
Holy shit, you're not even kidding are you? Eurocucks everybody... this is literally how they think.
>>29137346
>carrying a handgun
>armed to the teeth
Stay cucked, my friends
>>29137402
my country has the 7th most guns per capita in the world if i'm reading this article right, so we aren't really "cucked" in terms of firearms. anyone can own a long gun, provided they get a hunting license and are 15 years of age.
a handgun is probably not the best choice against a bear anyway
>>29137378
we got wildlife too you know. bears and shit. and i got a hunting license. i guess i just don't feel as unsafe as you do in the woods
>>29137346
He's not armed to the teeth, he's taking a singular rifle or a shotgun with maybe 20 rounds or so to save weight. It's very common for backpackers to carry a lightweight glock in 10mm or a .22 survival rifle, for scaring predators and hunting in an emergency situation.
Meth heads actually are a problem out in the woods, if you aren't on a well established trail then there's always a chance of being too close to someone's grow, or cook, or whatever. There was a good thread yesterday that touched on this a little, the "can anyone invade the US" one, maybe you can still find it in the catalog.
It isn't likely OP will be attacked by a bear or a mountain lion, no. But he's a free man, and if he chooses to travel armed that is his prerogative.
>>29137044
Dude, sauce on that build?
>>29137517
I don't think I've ever seen a tutorial for how to do what was in the image I posted, but I found a guy doing something similar with an ati stock if you don't wanna just cut your hi point up and eyeball it
survivalistboards has a hi-point thread, on page 55 there's a guy using an ati stock which looks kind of similar to this build. Tried linking it but I'm on my phone and it thinks it's spam
If you're asking about the .40 to 10mm, there's a few videos on youtube, again not sure if there's a written tutorial anywhere. It seems like a fun project though, post one if you build it!
>>29136237
$20, and can be broken down. Thrown away with not much loss.
Worse comes to worse hit your assailant with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhceWZiYPQ
>>29137680
>shooting out the empty shell
I'd like to see him use a shittier pipe.
>>29136402
You are a moron
>>29136365
this is the best answer imo, i have one and its awesome. Some kel tec shit isn't great (mainly their pistols) but their rifles aint bad at all.
>>29136488
does this apply in oregon?
