Soup freindos, I'm now the owner of a Type 99 except my type 99 has no ground marks where the mum should be as there is no mum this is weird to me. What gives?
Also why are rounds so unnaturally tight when unlocking and locking the bolt? Is it a headspacing issue?
>>29080898
Last ditch
They omitted the aesthetic and unnecessary items in order to mass produce rifles nearing the end of the war.
>>29080898
>has no ground marks where the mum should be
It does; it's just been re-blued over. Notice how rough the surface is above the gas escape hole compared to the rest of the receiver.
arsenal and series mark pls
>>29080981
That can't be true because i have an honest to god one-of-the-final Type 99s produced, it has a wooden buttplate, fixed rear sights, cylinder shaped bolt handle but it has a clearly ground mum. What i'm saying is there is no evidence of any markings having existed where the mum should be on this rifle.
>>29081048
There is absolutely no rough surface above the gas port. It has the same machining texture as the rest of the receiver/chamber area. I have an example to compare it too as well. Unless it was so finely ground that the actual stamp wasn't even on the surface of the metal.
>>29081070
Kokura Arsenal, still trying to decipher the series mark.
>>29081105
Here's a comparison. The rifle on the bottom is the absolute last ditch shitgun.
bump, the series mark looks like a combination of series 20 and 24. Would this be a training rifle?
>>29081347
Post a pic of it.
>>29081523
I'm having a tough time getting a picture of it because it wasn't stamped that well and the camera won't focus on it. I'll mspaint what's going on with it.
I'm no picasso but this is literally what i see but the bottom portion was not stamped in all the way i think.
>>29081105
If it's one of the final Type 99s produced, it's a last ditch rifle. Hell, some of these are unsafe to even fire. Basically, Japan was getting beat to shit, and as a result, they were trying to push out the rifles as fast as possible, resulting in shoddy quality and none of the aesthetic features, such as the mum.
Somewhat related question, where do I get ammo for these guns? I have a Type 99 myself.
>>29082094
>If it's one of the final Type 99s produced, it's a last ditch rifle.
Right but the one i just purchased isn't. It even has the upper hand guard.
Please re-read my post. My last-ditch rifle had a mum while this earlier-war example has none whatsoever.
>>29082192
No, this is /k/. Stop expecting me to display intelligence.
>>29082200
s..sorry..
>>29082040
I said a picture (like pic related), not a crudely drawn MSpaint pic.The only series that looks anything like that is an 10th series and that was made by Nagoya arsenal, not Kokura.
>>29082094
They all had a mum. This one has been scrubbed and reblued. "Last ditch" rifles are still safe to shoot.
>>29082192
THEY ALL HAD MUMS.
>>29082322
>I said a picture
And i said the mark is incomplete and the camera can't pick up on it.
>>29082322
>THEY ALL HAD MUMS.
Except it doesn't. Look at the picture and tell me where you see grinding marks at all?
There is no rebluing because it was never ground off because it never fucking had it.
>>29082434
Then the camera sucks. Even an incomplete stamp is better than nothing either way.
>>29082442
Look at this pic. If there wasn't a change in color you wouldn't know that it's been ground.
>>29082534
>If there wasn't a change in color you wouldn't know that it's been ground.
But there is no change in texture. The scoring marks from machining are still present over the entire chamber area and do not break over the area where the mum should be. abrasives no matter how light they be will leave characteristics of their use.
>>29082590
The "scoring" marks are the marks the grinder left, you nitwit.
>>29082534
>>29082629
No they aren't unless someone took a grinder to literally all the metal behind the barrel shank.
>>29082678
That's a 20th series.
You can see the dip in the metal where it was ground off. Put a straight edge over it if you don't believe me. I can also see part of the mum that is left in this pic >>29081138
>>29082764
My bad, Who could have done such a clean job of it?
>>29082792
Same way it was done here: >>29082534
>>29082792
>Who could have done such a clean job of it?
Probably the guy who brought it home. As part of his efforts to make the Japanese more amenable to their defeat and occupation, MacArthur issued an order that servicemen taking home souvenirs deface the imperial symbols on them.
>>29082934
MacArthur was a shithead.
>>29082764
The one on the bottom had paint or whatever in the mum and the one on the top does not. I see a lot if arisaka like this but which way is correct? Was it painted like that when it left the factory?
>>29083198
>Was it painted like that when it left the factory?
No. Some collectors do that shit. I personally don't like it. I try to pull that crap out when I see it.
>>29082792
I like how you were being such a cunt earlier and now that you've been proven wrong, you're not as cunty. Good on you, m80.
>>29083217
Thank you sir you've given me the answer me and my arisaka buddy couldn't find, and since I'm a Mauser man I didn't know. Man I want an arisaka.
On a separate note, is there any surplus arisaka furniture around? At the last local gun show I went to there were a lot of arisaka sporter that still had the original barrel for 20 or less, and some of them still had mums at that price and great bores! I'd love to get one and put it back into its original furniture.
Also which arisaka is the one to get? The type 38 in 6.5x50 or the type 99 in 7.7x58?
>>29083557
Sorry, 200 or less not 20 lol
>if only it was 20 or less :(
>>29083386
>I like how you were being such a cunt earlier
Because people weren't reading my posts. If i'm wrong, and i was, i'll own up to it.
>>29083557
Arisaka furniture is notoriously hard to find.
>>29083557
You'd be better off spending your money for a correct one than trying to fix bubba's mistakes. Plus, every stock you will find means an actual collectible one has been parted out for idiots to "restore" an Arisaka with the incorrect stock. You'll pay as much for a stock as for the gun anyhow.
>>29080981
This are replies like this are wrong.
So this is really interesting because I was at the National Infantry Mueseum today and I saw a Japanese rifle WW2 era and it had a little display and close up picture of the Missing or stamped over mum and an explanation of why they had been covered over but for the life of me I cannot remember why it was. It had something to do with not wanting the imperial legacy to live on or something. I think >>29082934 is the most correct. The one they had at the museum was pretty badly stamped over. I just commented because it was amazing I saw a documented example of this in a museum today. Any /k/ommandos worth their salt need to check out the NIM
