Tell me /k/, why are German guns so much better than all other countries'?
>>28666371
Looks like a more complicated and higher maintenance P64. Probably more expensive to make, too.
>>28666371
Because Prussia was hatched from a cannonball.
That's not how you spell "Belgian"
>>28666371
pretty sure that a ruger and remington is so much better than a walther and a fn
>>28666420
poorfag detected
no, your $300 ruger is nowhere near military-grade guns
>>28666395
>9x18 Makarov
>27 lb trigger pull
>Hidden heel mag release
>Overall more stiff and less user friendly
At least it costs less, Goyim
>>28666371
No compromise.
Because, OP, they keep working without fail time and again. Let me give an example.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Blokhin
>He is recorded as having executed tens of thousands of prisoners by his own hand, including his killing of about 7,000 Polish prisoners of war during the Katyn massacre in spring 1940,[2][3] making him the most prolific official executioner and mass murderer in recorded world history.
>Blokhin's most infamous act was the April 1940 execution by shooting of more than 7,000 Polish prisoners interned in the Ostashkov prisoner of war camp in the Katyn forest. [...] Blokhin initially decided on an ambitious quota of 300 executions per night; and engineered an efficient system in which the prisoners were individually led to a small antechamber—which had been painted red and was known as the "Leninist room"—for a brief and cursory positive identification, before being handcuffed and led into the execution room next door. The room was specially designed with padded walls for soundproofing, a sloping concrete floor with a drain and hose, and a log wall for the prisoners to stand against. Blokhin would stand waiting behind the door in his executioner garb: a leather butcher's apron, leather hat, and shoulder-length leather gloves. Then, without a hearing, the reading of a sentence or any other formalities, each prisoner was brought in and restrained by guards while Blokhin shot him once in the base of the skull with a German Walther Model 2 .25 ACP pistol.[13][14][15] He had brought a briefcase full of his own Walther pistols, since he did not trust the reliability of the standard-issue Soviet TT-30 for the frequent, heavy use he intended.
>>28666452
>implying i use a ruger .380
>implying its not a good weapon for ccw
>implying i wouldnt buy a ruger 7.62
germanfag detected
>>28666452
also remington sucks at making pistols
>>28666617
German firearms are infinitely better. Regardless of caliber or use, Germany offers something similar but better. Go ahead, try to think of something they haven't done better.
If any nation on this earth has come close to mastering weaponry, Germany'd be it.
>>28666629
>at making pistols
>implying only at making pistols
>>28666674
They haven't made a better machine gun than the M2.
>>28666674
are discounting isreal nigger
the country born out of and into war
>>28666371
kraut spacemagic
>>28666481
>compact
>grip longer than slide
ew
>>28666674
what about kimber
germans are niggers anyway
>>28666766
Are you trying to imply that Kimber is good?
>>28666777
are you trying to imply that kimber is bad?
they make the best 1911s
>>28666795
I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you. Kimber has been shit for a while.
>>28666795
>>28666814
>tfw have a pre shit era Kimber 1911.
1300 rounds and no problems other than general maintenance. Feels good mang.
>>28666814
>implying handmade weapons dont have problems
nigga you actually think that they stamp their weapons
>>28666827
yes it does, i have like 5 of them
i took a tour of the kimber factory in 83
>>28666795
Why the fuck do single action handguns even exist anymore for anything beyond target shooting? They are to the 1873 as a good handgun is to a double action revolver. You're literally limiting yourself in so many ways.
That's like using a Luger P.08 or Mauser C.96, both ancient single action designs. America just has a hard time letting go I guess.
>>28666674
agreed. Germany is at the front of weapon tech at least in the realm of infantry weaponry. and for a time they were the front of all other types such as heavy armor, artillery, aircraft, etc etc
>>28666843
Dat 6oz trigger pull.
>>28666832
>i took a tour of the kimber factory in 83
Now everything becomes clear. You're an old fudd. Sorry, grandpa. Companies change and Kimber was one of them.
>>28666832
if a machine made weapon functions far better than handmade why the fukk would you get a handmade if its clearly inferior..?
>>28666843
>implying german faggots
im pretty sure we have plenty of good double action pistols ala the smith and wesson m&p 40
also im pretty sure isreal makes better weapons than germany
>>28666473
.32 cal gun with a little more refinement and like triple the cost. Yea, way better!
Keep on drinking that German tit milk. You may as well buy turkshit anyway, since most Germans are brown now. Thanks to the Jews...
>>28666877
sorry striker fire action
I own two handguns. I own two Walthers. I have literally not a single regret. Walther is such a great company between modern and older designs.
Fuck me do I want a Walther Gewehr 43. Or an MPL. Not that MP5's aren't better, there's just something romantic about the inbetween years in the realm of submachine guns.
>>28666674
EAA Windicator, made by Weihrauch in Germany. In its defense they are made by a company specializing in air rifles.
>>28666908
I want a full auto MP5 so bad. Getting to shoot one was fun as fuck.
>>28666898
Striker guns? See Walther P99, Walther PPQ, Walther PPS, H&K VP70, H&K P7, Armatix iP1, just look. All superior.
If you want to go low-tier, the VP9 series is in the same group as M&P 9's. They're probably okay at best.
>>28666937
I've fired so many MP5's, probably 12 or so between like 5 or 6 different models. I've fired one MPL and it was okay, but the pure nostalgia made me melt, man.
>>28666854
Kimber
Gerber
Craftsman
Maglite
Remington
To name a few other companies that now only sell products from brand recognition of formerly well-made product.
>tfw when it's been over 20 years since Gerber got bought out by Fiskars and started churning out dangerous to the user rubbish, but it still is known by many for the old quality products it used to make
>>28666961
This. Its pretty sad desu senpai
>>28666766
>>28666795
>>28666827
>>28666853
There are better yet, anons.
>>28666371
>German guns are the best
>That's why I don't own one and had to use someone else's pic
Classic.
>>28667046
OP here, I own only three and none are as pretty as that one. Just wait, one of them is going through some hoops right now but in a few months I'll make this exact thread with my updated pic, sound good anon?
>>28666371
because hitler was on to something before the jews ruined any chance of the betterment of humanity
>>28666371
because germans just do it best
>>28667294
literally kill yourself you pig-fucking pedophile piece of shit
Walther ppk vs Bulgarian Makarov.
For CC purposes, which whould i get? (penis grips do not help nor harm the makarov's chances)
>>28666452
>implying 'military-grade' is a good thing
>>28667372
Settle down you chosen bitch
>>28667372
stay mad kiddo
>>28666843
How exactly is single action limiting in any way?
>>28667509
I think he means SAO.
>>28667524
How is single action only limiting?
>>28667530
really... do you even know what single action only is?
>>28667545
>>28667545
Yeah. The trigger performs only the single action of dropping the hammer. How is that limiting? What makes DA/SA or DAO better?
>>28667561
>not skipping a step is not limiting
>>28667561
You have to pull the hammer back every time you want to fire. If you're skilled at them then sure, they're no problem. If you think you're John Wayne and buy one as your first self defense pistol you're asking to get shot.
>>28667570
Yeah. The gun gets cocked when you rack the slide after inserting a magazine and gets recocked by the slide moving backwards after firing. It's not skipping a step, it's eliminating a step.
>>28667591
I wasn't aware that we were talking about revolvers
>>28667602
>chamber a round before you leave the house
>male of criminal persuasion tries to culturaly enrich you
>pull out non SA only gun, squeeze trigger BOOM
or
>chamber round with 1911
>someone tries to culturally enrich you
>pull hammer back first
>then pull trigger
HMMMMMMMMM
Am I the only one who really doesn't give a shit about german guns barring a few things?
Only things I can ever give a fuck about
>german sigs
>mp5 clones
As much as hk is cool, I have no desire to own any of their guns.
>>28668077
You do realize that the hammer on a 1911 gets cocked when you chamber the round, right? Or are you one of those retards who are afraid of a cocked and locked gun?
>>28668077
Walking around with a SAO with the hammer back?
Also, 1911s you carry hammer back. You pull it and in the process you thumb the safety and you're ready to fire.
>>28668077
>/pol/fag doesn't know how a gun works
typical.
>>28668077
How do you chamber a round in the 1911 without pulling the hammer back?
>>28666371
>German
thats a funny way of spelling Austrian
>>28667435
I would go Makarov for several reasons.
1. You know exactly who manufactured it. I know that S&W (and interarms? I'm not a ppk expert) was manufacturing ppk's under license for a while with some complaints about ultra heavy springs, sharp edges, and reliability issues.
2. I believe that a makarov will generally be more reliable.
3. You get the extra punch of 9x18 over 9x17 (.380)
4. Cheaper
5. You will cry less when a mak gets wear and tear from carrying. Makarovs get more glorious with wear, ppk's get uglier.
My 5 cents
>>28666371
It is because Germany is like Thanos:
Huge, Giant, Powerful, but always loses because of a subconscious desire to lose.
I.E. The greatest cucks of all time
>>28667435
>>28668253
I would go with Walther for several reasons.
1. You know exactly who makes it. I know that early PPK's are excellent and often sought after as historical pieces. When Walther began importing them to the U.S. through InterArms the quality was not to the same level for a diamond in the rough, but since they've began using S&W as an importer they've brought their quality control back to wartime degrees so that each and every PP is magnificent, not just most.
2. The PPK is proven to be as reliable as a Makarov given that the Soviets pretty much just copied the design.
3. You get the affordability and commonality of the .380 ACP cartridge.
4. Higher build quality and attention to detail.
5. The smaller size and immaculate construction will have you taking extra care of it. It will be a piece easy to conceal, a tool easy to use, and an heirloom that is special when passed down.
Go Walther 10/10 times.
>>28668175
>implying Austria isn't a part of Germany
Anschluss now.
>>28668109
Same here. I never got why people wank off about it. They seem overly complex for what they are and more pricey because of it. I guess from a collecting standpoint its a neat field to get into (I even know a guy who collects lugers, has like 8 of them). From a shooting standpoint, though, its not anything I find interesting.
>>28666674
Aircraft carriers
>>28669120
>firearms
>>28666674
World wars
>>28669143
>go ahead, try and think of something they haven't done better
You didn't say firearms specifically.
>>28668810
Not a bad pitch.
9.3/10
>>28670382
Not even the first poster but:
>German firearms are infinitely better. Regardless of caliber or use, Germany offers something similar but better.
>>28670608
I'm the OP and haven't replied, you've all done a well enough job.
>>28666371
> ctrl-f
>G-36
>No results
>MFW
It's like you faggots DON'T want to shit all over the Germany is good meme
>>28670784
>everything is not perfect, therefore everything is bad
Nice false dichotomy there, faggot.
>>28666961
To be fair, Maglite does make a pretty good product for $20. I've had exactly one flashlight fail me over nearly 15 years of backpacking, shooting and camping, and that was because I dropped it down a thirty-foot cliff onto solid granite.
>>28671511
I think make Maglite's bigger problem isn't that they make a bad product compared to what they made 20 years ago, but that their product is not as good as modern alternatives. They didn't really do a good job transitioning to small led lights.
