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Are FNX-45s actually good or are they another meme gun? I got
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Are FNX-45s actually good or are they another meme gun? I got tricked into buying a VP9 by you assholes and don't want to waste anymore money.
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>>28583799
They are the best .45 because of capacity
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don't ask k anything about what guns to buy. they have always given poor advice
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>>28583799
FN quality
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>>28583799
I love mine, best gun I've ever bought.
Really accurate, light recoil and a nice trigger. Got the tactical version so I could put an red dot on it. It can be a little big for some people but I think it fits perfect in my hands. grip texture is also perfect imo, really aggressive which is good because my hands are always sweaty...fml.
I'm not a huge .45 fan, and if the tactical version came in 9mm I would have gotten that.
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>>28583799
i love mine.
good trigger, good capacity, super soft shooting, and great ergos
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>>28583967
Speaking of memes....

>>28583799
FNX45 is a fine gun. I own one, plan on picking up a tactical model later this year.
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>>28583812
Not just capacity. They're reliable, accurate, and fun/comfortable to shoot.
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Fnx-45 vs P226? Which is the better gun?
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>>28583799
There's like one poster on /k/ that loves the vp9 lol.
I haven't shot one.
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It will find a way to take all your money.

You have it for a few days and suddenly uou get a voice in your head saying "gee, I should put a light on this" or "golly, I can mount an RMR to this here bit on the slide".

And then you remember that nobody makes a goddamn holster for it and the magazines are $40 apice.
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>>28584013
p226 because 9mm
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>>28584013
>polymer-framed .45 with manual safety
>aluminum-framed 9mm with decocker only
>thinking these are directly comparable
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you are better off with a hk45
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>>28584088
http://raven-concealment-systems.mybigcommerce.com/fn-custom-phantom-light-compatible-holster/
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>>28584102
Okay, okay, P220 in .45 vs Usp .45 vs Fnx-45. Who would win in a steel cage death match?
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>>28583967
Its supposed to do that...

This isn't a lack of quality its a design choice. Now, before you fucking meme on me show me one owner who complains about the grip.
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>>28583799
Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that most people with an FNX-45 get the expensive "Tactical" version, when very few of these people actually have an optic or suppressor?

It seems most buyers don't realize there's a normal FNX-45 that's only $700. You don't need to buy the OPERATOR version.
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>>28584121
8 rounds
12 rounds
15 rounds

They are all good pistols. And I like carrying lots of bullets.
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>>28584105
>not .40

enjoy your fudd round.
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>>28583799
If you want decent reliable .45 with good compacity get it but If you want decent compacity .45 bult like fucking a tank and will be around for at least two hundred years after you died of old age get a USP TACTICAL
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>>28584132
No it's not, as FN apologized and replace the guy's gun.

That said it was a isolated thing; a lemon. That's now how the polymer always is.

>>28584121
FNX. Lighter, lower recoil, higher capacity, can carry in any mode you want. It's just better and more advanced in general.
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>>28584088
I should mention that I love this stupid thing. I want to give it all kinds of expensive shit to wear while shooting the sloppiest loads through it at the fastest speed possible. I want to mount a suppressor, light, and optic, jam it into a custom kydex holster, and use it to turn kebab inside out in the middle of the night.

It's kinda like that girl who became a pornstar right out of highschool and had a shitton of work done. You're her sugar-daddy now and you can't bring yourself to stop spending money on her because she's withholding anal until you get her that new toy.
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>>28584135

Even better is that the optic mount on the FNP/FNX-45 tacticool is so close to the ejection port, your red dot is gonna get dinged constantly. And if you add use a suppressor, the optic becomes unusable from filth.

I ended up selling mine and having a G41 milled. Still ended up being cheaper.
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>>28584111
I'll keep that in mind for later.

Already got an NSR holster for it.
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>>28583799
FN are known for reliable and function weapons of any kind.
FNX-45 is their 'tactical .45' offering, and so it is a functional and reliable .45.

Even in regards to >>28583967 squishy gun,
They shipped him a brand new one and took the old pistol for testing on its unique 'condition'.

They are one of the huge diverse arms manufacturers that supply dozens of first world military's with firearms, you can't get that gig while being a third party organisation if you aren't good, most governments have local companies manufactur knock-offs of foreign guns or manufacture licensed knock-offs locally, but FN can actually be relied on, that's why every Military and their dog have an FN MAG, Minimi, Maximi, Hi-Power, SCAR or P90 or FNX.
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I have an fnp
It is great.

Accurate.
Easy to service
Durable ( i have 6000 rds through mine)


My only complaint. Is the rds is too close to the ejection port. With a suppressor on mine geta powder residue on it.
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Do you wanna know the truth?

I have been a armorer and firearms instructor for a long time, and have never seen such a low-quality pistol so widely used by LE as the FNS/FNX.

> I am sure someone will be offended
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Honestly, aside from le squishy and everyone hating the 5.7mm, FN is everyones favorite gun manufacturer
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can a metal lower receiver conceivably be made? like, if there isn't already a metal version, could one be made? i mean, i have access to milling and CNC equipment. i would think it would be really easy, just a metal version of the exact same thing.
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>>28584176
My rds has never been dinged. But it does get a fair amount of unburnt powder/ soot. But a quick wipe takes care of it.

It is a problem for me after 50 rounds or so
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>>28583799
Meme. You should get the XD 5" Tactical model. 13 rounds a mag. .45 stronk. Manual safety is an option if you are a sissy fag.
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>>28583799
They are really good, if you want a 45 "duty" gun

It has a good capacity for 45, although that comes at cost of a thicker grip than most are used to

The stock trigger is bretty good mang, and is da/sa and has a decocker, so muh chamber loaded hammer down carry sexiness

Comes from factory able to take red dots, which is more awesome because I had a spare burris sight thats fun to fuck with

and I left my fnx on my car hood in a colorado summer and it didn't squish nearly as bad as that one meme


tl;dr, if you don't want a glock, get an fnx
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>>28584279

It is completely dependent on the ammo and how it ejects. Some will ding, some won't.

The placement on the optic mount is asinine.
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>>28584258
I have an FNS and love it. What's so "low quality" about it? It seems to be made as well if not better than my G19 and M&P.
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>>28584176
>your red dot is gonna get dinged constantly

Only a problem if you care about keeping guns pretty. I've racked the sight off surfaces harder than brass and the RMR doesn't seem to mind.

>And if you add use a suppressor, the optic becomes unusable from filth.

Occluded gunsights, how do they work?
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>>28584270
Not mine
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>>28584290
Looks like an FNX-45 with downs.
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>>28584312
I should have said low-QC or poor-QC.

I had a batch of some 100 FNS-40's and about 28/29 of them had to be sent back for repairs.

This is one man's experience though, I have a SCAR and P12 and I love both and have thousands of rounds through them.
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>>28584352
>putting form over function
>being this retarded
Go back to your ar thread.
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>>28584333
>act hard by deliberately damaging equipment

Sure

>Occluded gunsights, how do they work?

They don't.
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>>28584270
>1900
>1903
>1905
>1910
>Babby Browning
>Hi-Power
>FNP / FNX / FNS
>Minimi
>MAG
>M2
>BAR
>FAL
>CAL
>FNC
>M1949
>FS2000
>SCAR
>P90
>Browning Semi-Auto .22
>SLP
>Auto-5
>Buck Mark
>Browning 1911-22
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>walk into gun shop
>me: I'm looking for an FN
>guy behind counter: that's what I carry!
>*lifts up shirt, full-size FNX45 tactical with rmr, a light, and I'm pretty sure an extended floorplate mag*

He conceals this daily... and it wasn't even noticeable. Sometimes I wish I was fat.
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>>28583799
You bought a Vp9
>Vp9
>Vp9
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>>28584333
That gun does not seem like its been actually used. It seems like someone deliberately dirtied it up imo....

Look how pristine the slide and frame are apart from the scuffs on the ejection port.
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>>28584353
Weird, I've never heard a bad thing about FN's QC, or that of their child companies (Browning, Winchester).
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>>28584399
>act hard by deliberately damaging equipment

But the RMR isn't damaged, so....

>I have no idea what an occluded gunsight is

Well that was already obvious.
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>>28584135
That's because FN doesn't market their cheaper stuff well. Their marketing in general sucks dick actually.
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>>28584363
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>>28584426
>thinks gear queers actually use the gear

come on now
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>>28584363
>implying an XD functions better than an FNP or FNX
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>>28584444
Nice Get Phangot
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>>28584444
Yep. No manual safety to fuck with and it carries a similar amount of ammo. Plus you don't get squishy. It was formally adopted by countries for their military for a reason.
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>>28584438
>FN marketing their stuff at all

It's downright amazing how many gun stores don't stock FN, and how many clerks have never heard of them. They're so much larger and more successful than Steyr, yet have the same problem with non-existent marketing.

Browning and Winchester and marketed extremely well, but FN doesn't seem too concerned about getting their own products out there. They seem to rely on word of mouth.

I love my FNS, but I probably would have never known it existed if I didn't already like FN and follow their new stuff.
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>>28584426

4chan never ceases to amaze me. In one thread it will be said my guns are never used, and in the next I'm told they are maltreated over pics like this one. /k/ always wants it both ways.
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>>28584434

It's damaged if the front lens is scratched to shit, even if it still works.

>occluded eye gunsight
>advocate a special snowflake, imprecise aiming method instead of just fixing the placement of the optic
>I deliberately make my life difficult to look operator
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>>28584495
>In one thread it will be said my guns are never used, and in the next I'm told they are maltreated over pics like this one. /k/ always wants it both ways.

It's almost like /k/ is thousands of different people and not just one guy with conflicting opinions
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>>28584481
This omfg...

Steyr literally does fuck-all to market their shit.

FN is almost as bad.

Beretta also does a shitty job. I have an ARX100 and fucking love it but would not know about it if I got all my information from gunstores.
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>>28584407
FN Forty-Nine. Checkmate, FN fags.
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>>28584481
All their stuff is awesome. They make great shotguns for example, but who had ever heard of, much less shot, the SLP? That's a great auto shotgun that would give any Benelli a run for the money.
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>>28584495
Do you even take care of your fucking guns?

Like what the actual fuck.
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>>28584529
Yeah I left that out for a reason... Not a bad gun, but that fucking trigger

I blame the US LE market going apeshit for terrible DAO triggers for that mess
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>>28583967
>one occurrence
>several years after the weapon had been released to the market
>still perpetuating this bullshit despite the countless other owners who have not experienced any such issue
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>>28583982

as much as I love FN I would probably take a MK 23 instead because it was purpose built from the ground up for stupidly good durability
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>>28584496
>moving the goal posts
>still wrong

First you said the optic becomes unusable due to filth, which is blatantly false. It simply becomes an occluded gunsight at that point and you should already be aiming with both eyes open thus impact on function is negligible.

Now you're claiming the lens will become scratched due to the optics placement which I have not experienced at all with the RMR or Docter optics used on this particular handgun.

If you have photographic evidence of this happening to your weapon I'd love to see it, though I still won't care.
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>>28584534
As far as I can tell they're actually pretty damn popular in the tacticool shotgunner / 3-gun circles. I see a lot of people with the SLP.

>>28584514
I remember a couple years ago, when Steyr announced they were officially coming to the US and doing their own marketing instead of relying on shit fly-by-night importers who kept going out of business and not advertising.

Well, they're fully set up now, but they still don't advertise for shit. They would sell an assload of M9 and L9 pistols if they just let Americans know they were there.
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>>28584276
U srs bro?

If you could make the blueprints for it sure I guess, but generally plastic designs are more moldable than metal... That is if you're using metal you might want to make the design less intricate, because it might not work out as well as plastic. With slight modification to the design, sure I suppose. You'd have to be really good to get the exact dimensions down though.

If you ever do it post results. I'd love a metal one in 9mm.
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>>28584477
>It was formally adopted by countries for their military for a reason.
And that reason is bureaucrats.
Fuck off with your roll pinned grip safety bullshit. I like serbians better anyway.
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>>28584165
Colion Noir pls go.
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>>28584612
>I like serbians better anyway.

Zastava strong

HS Produkt a shit
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>>28584632
>He legitmately likes eastern european.... anything...
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>>28584577
>impact on function is negligible
>can't even aim precisely
>but... but.. it still works... sorta

Operator cosplaying is sure is hard.

Like I said earlier, I sold mine specifically because of the optic mount placement, but if you can spend 2 seconds typing into google, here's one singular anecdote to counter your singular anecdote:

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=24&t=315121
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>>28584135
>$700

I've seen the regular model in the same two tone as your pic online for $580-$650 new

Was considering trading my stainless slide two-tone off for a friends 1911 and getting the FDE/black.
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>>28584657
Look up Croatia and Serbia and get back to me on which one is eastern and which isn't you fucking faggot.
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>>28583799
love mine. I actually like it better than my USP overall. The only complaints I have is that I don't prefer manual safeties
The other being that the magazine seems like it can get caught if you insert it at a hard angle. It gets caught on the mag release in the well.
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>>28584583
S-steyr is in the US? What do they make?! Please god tell me we can get AUGs and STG58s!!!
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>>28583799
So are all HKs shit, or just the VP9?
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>>28584660
>inb4 Insight is shit, RMR is indestructible...

The lens will scratch eventually, they call them sacrificial coatings for a reason.
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>>28584660
>After 300 rounds I noticed that some empty brass did in fact hit and deflect off the front of the RMR's aluminum housing but only left some minor brass deposits which easilly wiped off. No nicks or scratches. The lense is clear and free of scratches so if any brass did bounce off the lense you can't tell.

So you posted a link that proves my point? Ok, thanks man.
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>>28584680
I'm not up to date with their pricing, but $580-$650 sounds much more reasonable.

>>28584700
>S-steyr is in the US? What do they make?! Please god tell me we can get AUGs and STG58s!!!

https://steyrarms.com/firearms.html

They make white AUGs, for one. Also a whole lot of other stuff. You can even buy stuff directly from them. A few months ago they had all their pistols on sale for $449.
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>>28584612
>muh bureaucrats
No anon, the FNX just wasn't good enough. If it was then it would be issued to the military.
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>>28584784
they'd never pick a 45
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>>28584784
>just wasn't good enough
>for our military

Those guys run around in baby blue pajamas with guns from the 50s that weren't even the best option in the 50s. They never pick the right thing.
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>>28584784
>Beretta M9 confirmed for best combat handgun ever
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>>28584836

Joint Combat Pistol program, google it.
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>>28584734

No, the link proves the brass will hit the optic lens, as it happened with the insight. With a paltry number of rounds with a RMR mounted, the lens didn't scratch. Yet.

Here's a video of this happening: https://youtu.be/0a6BhIDttm8

Considering that cartridge brass is harder than polycarbonate and the odds of a good solid direct hit is highly dependent on ammo, grip, etc, it really is just a matter of time before your RMR gets scratched, and over time/rounds more scratches will accumulate.

It's OK though, when the RMR is completely scratched up you can just do occluded aiming, full time.
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>>28584880
nigger plz, they always have shit going on that never pans out.
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>>28584784
>Because the process of procuring a pistol for the military has always been straightforward, transparent, and worked on a clear timelines.
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>>28584622
Did you not see the first pic?
>>28584088
Black people don't live in PNW, they're a myth on about the same level as SBR laws and legal weed.
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>>28583799
My dad has one. It's nice enough but it isn't so great that I'd go out and get one over another modern .45 handgun. I have a Glock 21 that works just fine, only I can drop a fuckton of aftermarket parts into mine to make a competition gun if I want, while the FNX will probably always just be a stock FNX.

Would I buy a different .45 given the chance? I doubt it. Would I feel like I bought a shitty gun comparing to other options if I'd went with the FNX? No, it's nice and the stock model is appropriately priced.

FNX Tactical vs. USP Tactical though, I liked the USP better. Sold it because rifles are better in every conceivable way though.

Why do people second guess guns from reputable manufacturers again? If you die in a serious situation it's gonna be because you're a fucktard and did dumb shit, not because your gun broke.
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>>28584871
Best? No. Good enough for the price at the time we got it? Yes.

>>28584869
By your argument they should all toss their current weaponry and replace it with M16/M4, M9, and so on.

>>28584907
Nope, but has always produced weapons that work well for the price they are sold.
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>2016
>falling for the .45 meme.
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>>28584969
So good enough does or doesnt factor into it?
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>>28584880
>he actually thinks they'll actually pick a new gun this time around instead of just canceling the program, sticking with the 92 for 5-10 more years, then starting another trial that will end the same way
>forever
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>>28584969
When did I say that? My argument is they should have picked the ar18 over the 15 and the FNX-9 should be the service pistol. But at this point we're so far into wasting money on junk we might as well stick with it.
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>>28584882
>Here's a video of this happening:

I see a video demonstrating the negative affect weak reloads can have on your ejection pattern causing the malfunction shown. Nothing showing damage attributed to the brass.

You keep going on and on complaining about the inevitability of "muh lens scratches." Strange how none of my pistol mounted RMR's through the thousands of rounds I've shot with them seem to display any such visible markings. I guess that means I'll just have to keep shooting them more.
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>>28585046
>weak reloads
>strong rounds will actually increase the slide speed and therefore reduce the distance which the brass has been flung before the optic slams back into the ejected case

Take a flashlight to your RMR and see the little guys developing.

>Strange how none of my pistol mounted RMR's through the thousands of rounds I've shot with them seem to display any such visible markings

Indeed, only my FNP-45 had this problem. Now that it's been sold, I haven't run into it.

>I guess that means I'll just have to keep shooting them more.

Please do, I enjoy seeing people try to brute force their way through an inherent design flaw.
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>>28585035
You said they didn't choose the same stuff that the US did and that they choose outdated weaponry that was shit. Which is you arguing that they should replace all their shit with what the US uses.

>>28585006
Price to quality ratio. Is the gun good enough for the right price? FNX isn't. XD and the XD(m) are cheaper with equal quality. Hell, you could argue they have better quality as the XD series will eat any ammo you feed it. Then throw in that the XD is in official use by the military so that speaks well of the basic design. Compared to the FNX which isn't in official use with anyone.
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>>28584700
The M9A1 is a sick pistol
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>>28584164
> lighter recoil than a usp .45
I know you love the fn but that is complete bull shit
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>>28583799

I have one and although I still haven't shot it a ton, I really like it so far. I mostly bought it for the high capacity, pre-milled slide, and threaded barrel although I probably won't put an RMR on it anytime soon. I also like that it's DA/SA with a cocked and locked option. What I didn't expect was the accuracy. It's one of the most accurate handguns I've fired if not the most. The very first ten rounds I fired out of it at about 5-7 yards, all but three formed just one hole dead center on the target. Trigger is a little bit squishy and somewhat long but it's not meant to be a competition gun, I'm not picky about triggers anyway, and like I said, it hasn't given me any problems with accuracy. And no, the mag well doesn't flex like rubber. It's polymer so it'll flex ever so slightly if you squeeze it hard enough just like some other polymer pistols but it doesn't affect normal operation in any way. The only silly putty mag well I've seen is the one in that specific video where I assume either the polymer was defective or he let the gun get much much hotter than he thought.

So yes, in my opinion they are good.

Why don't you like the VP9 by the way? I have no desire to buy one I'm just wondering what you specifically don't like.
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>>28585943
Not him but as I heard it, MAC did a video on the VP9 and it didn't pass whatever "torture" test he put it through.

Plus that annoying shit that was shilling the VP9 probably turned a lot of people off.

I haven't heard anything really bad about it other than that.
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>>28586074
it doesn't deal with water well
gets into the striker channel and causes light strikes
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>>28586126
Eh, bad for combat or OC but that shouldn't affect anything if you CC it or use it as a range toy.
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>>28585729
I actually missed the USP in anon's post, I was just comparing the FNX to the USP.

That said, the FNX does have lighter recoil than the USP in my experience. Not by much, mind you. It's just a heavier pistol.
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>>28583799
I like mine but I bought the non tac version.
The tac was like 1200$ and I got the non tac for 650$ cash.
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>>28586152
depends on where the combat is

swamp/jungle, it might be a problem
not so much in the sandbox
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>>28584408
Dude, I wish I was at least average in mass. Being skinny narrows your options fast.
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>>28585110
It reads like you had a bad experience and, rather than identifying the actual problem, you claimed the gun was faulty and sold it. Meanwhile, other users haven't had the same problem, and continue to enjoy shooting their pistols.

When asked to prove your claim, you 1) repeat the claim, 2) post links that don't satisfy the burden of proof and 3) make further claims (e.g. "take a flashlight to your RMR and see the [scratches] developing") that you also cannot prove.

In short, you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>28584088
Holster for FNX-45:

I own a FNP-45, which is most likely dimensionally identical to the later FNX-45, and I'm able to fit it, with a TLR-1, into a Safariland 6280 (?i think?) made for a Glock 21.

I had to remove the little muzzle nipple nubbin and file some of the material away, but it still holds the pistol securely.
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>>28584277
underrated post

also dubs
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>>28583967
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>>28587175

Apparently a video showing brass striking the optic isn't enough proof, as if a design that places the optic where it is likely to be struck by ejected brass isn't flawed. This is demonstrated by the video and is testimonials are easily found online.

Your defense against this design flaw is, the RMR is tough enough to take infinite strikes, which is really just a foolish argument since no plastic, however tough, can take repeated strikes from cartridge brass without eventual marring.

Then there's the whole occluded gunsight horseshit. I mean really, do you really insist that a workaround for a design flaw is in fact a feature? Is there any benefit to this method whatsoever?

It's fine that you are emotionally attached to your gear choices, just don't defend obvious flaws.
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>>28586074

>MAC did a video on the VP9

His repressed outrage in that VP9 video and later in TP9 video was epic to watch. You could understand that he hated himself for buying that gun!
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>>28584102
They are
.45 a shit and safeties are gay
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>>28587993
The burden of proof is on you to satisfy your claim, namely, that there is some problem with the FNX-45 and RMR in combination. You have not satisfied that burden to any degree whatsoever. The video does not, repeat, does not examine the optic after it is "struck" by ejected brass. That is neither the purpose of the video, nor an unintended consequence.

The combination of the FNX and RMR is well tested, in excess of any testing you could have ever possibly accomplished on your own.

>Quite a few of you guys have asked about the Trijicon RMR sights and we do have two in use. They are mounted on our suppressed FNX-45’s and one has been been on the line since day one. The oldest one finally had to get sent back to Trijicon for repair but I couldn’t believe how long it lasted. It wasn’t my RMR sight (it’s our friend Mario’s) and I initially felt bad because the pistols get thrown (yes, the thrown) into a cart and the end of the day and hauled off to the vault. In addition, it’s lasted constant tossing onto a range cart or thrown into a dump pouch with either other pistols or mags all day long.

>My buddy Pete used to run a RMR on his MP5 for 3-gun and I always thought it was such a fragile looking sight and for the cost, there was NO WAY I would ever use one where it had the chance of getting damaged. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn’t have any worries putting one on a weapon that’s going to get daily use.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/01/12/battlefield-las-vegas-optics-report/

My recommendation is that you find a reputable source that backs your claim and provide it yourself. After all, you wrote that "testimonials are easily found online." If that is true, you should be capable of linking one or more of them.

However, what would probably be a more efficient use of your time is to resign to the more likely possibility that your claim is baseless and unsubstantiated in fact.
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>>28583967
You know people point this out all the time, but as long as it doesn't permanently stay warped why does it matter? Just saying.
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>>28584164
You can carry a USP in more ways
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>>28583799
>>28583812
>buying a .45 for anything besides fun

If you intend to use it as a deadly paperweight, it's a great gun.
considering how comparable the 9mm is to the .45 with the added benefit of capacity and weight, it's the obviously better choice.
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>>28584270
Idk about my favorite, but they are really high up on the list. Maybe 3rd
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>>28584148
>40
>ever

I never thought a round its self could be literal shit until I shot a .40 for the first time.
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>>28584514
You like the arx? holy shit I don't think i've ever seen that comment before.
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>>28584276
An aluminum frame for the glawk exists, so making one for the FNX can't be impossible. Just do it, anon. Do it and make shitloads of $$$.
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>>28584477
>Made in Croatia
>Not slav trash
Pick one.

>Unironically bitches about manual safeties while defending a gun with a shitty excuse for a grip safety.

>Similar capacity.
You mean 13% less?
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>>28584562
>HK
>Purpose built for durability
>Implying the FN wasn't
Die in a fire.
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>>28589814
He wants reliability
The MK23 and the FN are not in the same category.
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>>28589576

My claim is the FNP/FNX-45 placement of the optic mount will end up with brass strikes on any optic (>>28584176). No mention of the RMR. Optic strikes are now proven fact, as the video demonstrates.

You are the one who dragged the RMR into the discussion, insisting that it is immune to damage from said brass strikes. My counterpoint is that this is a dubious claim. You can compare the hardness of the two materials (polycarbonate vs cartridge brass) and draw your own conclusions. Either way, the placement is a design flaw. The consequences of that flaw might be lessened by using a tough optic, but the flaw is still there.

By the way, the link you posted says the RMR had to be sent back to repair (for unknown reasons) but you somehow interpret that information as "there were no scratches on the RMR sight window". How'd you figure that?
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>>28589609
>comparable
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>>28584691
Um, both?
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>>28589814
This. HK fanboys refuse to acknowledge reality when it comes to their brand.

Perfect example: post about a legitimate issue with their pistols, get banned from their hugbox, safe space, circlejerking forums:

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/190464-hk-usp-tactical-45-resolved.html

Of course, when the topic of recommending a suppressor comes up, the fanbois rewrite history with their recollection of past events:

>There's one gentleman who comes to mind who posted here about his slide seizing up. He sent it to HK and they determined the cause was use of an improperly tuned suppressor.
>improperly tuned suppressor
>improperly tuned suppressor
>improperly tuned suppressor

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-nfa-talk/227157-suppressor-recommendations-hk-usp-tactical-45-a-2.html

In the real world, we call that a pistol that is dogshit. With virtually every other major pistol manufacturer, you can use more than 2 different brands of suppressors with your host gun. But no no no, it's the suppressors fault, not HK. It's the suppressor technology, having improved somewhat over the past decade and does a much better job of suppressing than the obsolete KAC and B&T suppressors, that is a problem.

Sound reduction isn't the point, but looking cool is when you're a HK fanboy.
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>>28585143
Whose military uses the XD?
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>>28589836
I see another reply that completely fails to substantiate your claim with relevant proof. Just more empty claims backed by nothing. No links, no documentation, no evidence.

Your case is dismissed.
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>>28589898
>talking about hk fanboys
>being the antithesis of them
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>>28589898
HK fags BTFO
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>>28589916
>the still shot of posted video literally says, "You will see that the spent casings do however strike the site (sic) frequently"
>no proof

Here's an interesting bit of Rockwell data
>Polycarbonatel: M70
>Cartridge brass: B93

They don't even use the same test. Hah. But hey, allow your RMR lens to be hit by a material orders of magnitude harder just so you can feel operator. It's your money.
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>>28583799
Maybe go rent one and find out for yourself, you oxygen thief. You deserve every wasted penny that you spent on that garbage.

Don't buy just cause you read about it. Got test one out and see if you like it. They maintain range rental guns for shit and so when you find one that you like you are looking at one that has been worn in and is representative of what your would look like after a few years of service.

Rent and test before you buy, dummy.
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>>28583799
Also,
>blaming other for your own mistakes

You are a quality individual. Never change.
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I've fired one a couple times, not really my style but I'm sure they're good guns. If you like it OP, get it.
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>>28584277
I'm an FN fanboy and even this made me kek
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>>28584495
>Treating god's gift to humanity in such a way
Clean your fuckin' gun anon
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>>28589632

Explain yourself. I just don't see it when I am at the range and I am not a big guy at all.
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>>28590416
More recoil less capacity more wear on gun
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>>28590427

>more recoil

Frequent practice and this becomes a non-issue

>less capacity

Valid point. Not overly concerned about that on my daily carry

>more wear on gun

For the 98% of people this is an absolute non-issue
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>>28590432
I guess 98% of people don't enjoy money then.
Frequent practice mitigates laws of nature? damn son
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I am debating between getting a Jericho 941 45 for $450 or a FNX for $650. Can someone give me a reason not to get a Jericho other than "Jew Gun", "weaboo gun" or "just get a CZ?"

I like that it has a steel frame, and they have the safety on the frame instead of the slide now, but I can't argue with the capacity of the FN. Has anyone fired both?
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>>28589858
Yeah, if you weren't retarded, you would know wound channels of old rounds aren't the say all end all.
9 is fine, fag.
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>>28590432
>less cap
Yes it is, when you consider price and especially weight
>more recoil
Why the fuck would you be fine with more recoil. What if I don't want to have sore wrists all fucking day from practicing with my .40 when I could just shoot a 9mm
>more wear on gun
yeah I agree, if it's made for whatever caliber it is fine.

I'm the guy you responded to >>28589632
I don't like it because of the ballistics, also I never thought a round it's self could be so inaccurate. Nothing to do with me or the gun, after shooting several I have determined I hate the .40
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>>28591049
Do you want a full size pistol or compactish type pistol?
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>>28591049
I've looked for a double stacked45, but haven't found one I really liked.

I have a 941F in 9mm and its great, but the 45 version is only available with the shorter barrel. Adding to that is the steel frame which makes it a bit too heavy for comfortable daily carry (for me at least).

The Sig P227 seems like the best alloy framed option now that the big magazines are available.

Tanfoglio's upper end models are nice and mecgar magazines are easy to find if you do want a full sized steel frame version.
Pic related, Tanfoglio Elite Stock III
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>>28592377
>10 rounds
>big capacity
or did you mean the monopod length 14 rounders?
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>>28589785
>HURRR MUH SLAV TRASH MAYMAY!!!!
Kill yourself.

>Safety
Yes, a grip safety is superior to a manual safety. Though if you find that you must have a manual safety for some asinine reason you can get the XD with a manual safety.

>Capacity
15+1 vs 13+1
That is similar. Not the same, simply similar.

>>28589911
Several nations actually. It's also known as the HS2000. Think Beretta 92 vs M9. Same thing, different name. From wikipedia:
Bosnia and Herzegovina (armed forces)
Croatia (armed forces and police)
Dominican Republic (armed forces)
Indonesia (armed forces)
Iraq (police)
Macedonia (armed forces)
Malaysia (armed forces)
Thailand (armed forces)

It is also approved for use with several US police departments and law enforcement agencies.
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>>28592664
Angry much?
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They're great but it's like buying a mac in the form of a gun. Great but holy shit not for that money. Not a poorfag, I just want to make my shekels go as far as possible.
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>>28592690
>Yo, you mad bro?
>Hey, you mad?!
>ARE YOU FUCKING MAD BRO?!?!??!!
>Yeah, I knew you were mad.
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>>28583799
Mine is pretty awesome, not all squishy squishy like all the memes say, and it's fed anything I put in it. I have small hands, but I can still shoot it DA just fine. The trigger isn't the best thing on the planet, but it's a polymer framed service pistol, not a race gun, and I can get fairly good accuracy from it.
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>>28592745
$650 is a lot of money?
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>>28583799
>I got tricked into buying a VP9 by you assholes

That is your own fault.
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>>28592767
On the downside, it's not the most user serviceable gun on the market. They really only want you to field strip it, and do nothing further.
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>>28592771
It is when you're a poorfag or you don't need the two extra rounds it has over a XD (which is cheaper).
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>>28592745
I got mine for $600+taxes, with 50 rounds thrown in. Befriend your FFL.
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>>28592833
Why would you buy an XD when the Glock 21 is available? It's an ugly Glock made in Croatia with a grip safety.
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>>28592863
Grip safety lowers your chance of glock leg.

But mostly it's for ergos. XD is more comfortable to shoot IMO.

But hey, at least the 21 is supposed to come standard with 13 rounders, like the XD, according to glocks website.

All of this, for similar prices (depending on area of course). Though the XD will probably be a better deal. Glocks are more popular so supply vs demand, especially when we get scares, will probably make glock prices skyrocket.
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>>28590432
>more recoil
>well ya gotta shoot it more

>more wear on the gun
>this isnt an issue

but anon, if you have to shoot it more to remove the recoil factor, the more wear on the gun does become an issue

le contradicting anon-kun
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>>28592978
Personally, even though I love my Glock 19, I'm not a big striker guy. So if I wanted another .45 that wasn't a 1911, I'd go with a Sig P220 or P227 because I'm not that worried about capacity.

YMMV and I don't judge, even if I don't understand the appeal of XDs.
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>>28592978
Your also leaving out the Glock aftermarket, to include holsters. Parts avalibility, and how many gunsmiths know/specialize in Glocks vs whatever.
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>>28593030
>Appeal
I'll assume you mean the XD line not XDs specifically.

I think it's because the XDs was the first pistol of its size to be 1" wide. It's actually smaller than that, it's just that the slide release and take down lever were just a smidge too big for it all to be under 1" wide. So people liked it because it had good quality and outside of the slam fire issue it had (which was fixed years ago and affected only a small range of them) the guns were reliable and accurate. Then people try the other guns in the XD line and like them because they tend to be cheap, accurate, and reliable.

But hey, I get it if someone doesn't like them. I just plain don't like glocks but I won't stop you from getting one if you really want it.

>>28593053
>aftermarket
Which parts of it? The XD line comes with a rail for you to mount shit like lights or lasers. You are able to replace the sights. If you need to replace anything else on your gun you either broke it or that just shows the gun isn't worth the price (note, I said NEED, not want).

>holsters
I haven't had issues finding holsters. Yes they tend to be generic "any 4" semi-auto" type holsters, but they work fine.

>gunsmith
If you take it to a reputable gunsmith they should be able to fix your gun without any issues. If they can't or can only do glocks, then you found someone who is incompetent or an armorer.
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>>28584148
>>not .40
>enjoy your fudd round.

.40 is to shooting what posting on R9K is to real life.

It's for know nothing faggots who struggle with the most mundane details in life and would better serve the world by swallowing gravel until their insides are ground chitluns. .40 is what you get when brothers and sisters fuck. And I don't mean hot like on porn hub, I mean two sweaty pathetic masses of ugly making an abomination fit only to be cast into the fires of Mt. Doom. It's a stupid round and you're a three toed tree faggot for using it. Eat the biggest bag of dicks you can find.
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>>28593191
>>28593053

FNX's fit in FNP holsters, and nobody updated their sites, which is why everyone says they can't find FNX holsters. Justs search for FNP-45 holsters and you'll get ones made specifically for it.
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>>28584399
>>Occluded gunsights, how do they work?
>They don't.

Hahaha I guess they have to put occluded eye optics in the next call of duty so the majority of k will learn about them.
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>>28584577
A two tone glock with those sights and rmr is pretty sexy
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Are there decocker only FNX pistols? I'm not interested in safeties nor am I interested in the striker FNS as I already have glocks
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>>28595384
Not that I know of, I just don't use the safety on mine.
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>>28584408
MAD MAN
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M
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>>28583799
I had a friend sell me a FNX-45 and a Glock 43 for 700. I was only able to put a few mags through it before I had to leave, i'm currently on a deployment, and i'm in love I don't have alot of experience with pistols but it seems solid. BTW the night sights are the shit.
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>>28583799
squishy squishy
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>>28584013
P226
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>>28583967
Fuck off you retard.
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>>28584013
226 because 9mm. The 9mms are equal.
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I have a 1911 and I am concerned about two things with the FNX.

That slide release looks awfully small. I hated using the one on the Glock, so will the FNX's be a problem too?

I ride the thumb safety on the 1911, but I noticed that the FNX has a decocker built in. Is it something to worry about or can it be turned into a safety only?
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>>28598193
Who the hell uses a slide release? Just pull the slide back.
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>tricked into buying a vp9
So you got tricked into buying a quality striker fired 9mm pistol? Woe is you.
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>>28598391
>"quality"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOu5ZGfgtVk

Should have just bought a glock
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>>28598238
I do. Why should I pull a slid back when I can just lower my thumb
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>>28598456
>Tim from MAC beat the shit out of a VP9 and had some failures
Fuck, I hope my pistol never gets used as a baseball, boomerang or shovel.
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>>28598725
He did beat the shit out of it but before all that hydraulic pressure caused the striker to fail, he puts a Canik TP9SA and it doesn't have the same issues.

All I'm saying is that IWI makes great rifles, and you can get great deals on those at budsguns along with some nice premium federal ammunition to shoot along with it.
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>>28599662
>buds
hickok45 pls
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