Did they operated hard enough for you, /k/?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3401845/Reports-explosion-gun-battles-upmarket-tourist-hotel-capital-Burkina-Faso.html
dem 416A5's
famas replacement when?
>>28566237
>>28566228
>>28568404
Apparently one American guy was with them, rest were frogs, I wonder which one the American was :^).
>>28568525
>one American guy was with them
Any idea as to why? Do they attach people from other countries on something like this?
>>28568878
Embassy security attache, could be embedded with the frogs?
The guy is probably a member of an ODA in AFRICOM and just happened to be in the area possibly.
>>28568525
The most badass one of course
>>28568878
Was thinking he might have been cross-training with their team and just decided to go along when they got the call as he is technically part of their team until he comes back home.
>>28568525
Both of the guys on the right of >>28568404
are American.
We have SF from COS in Burkina since 2012 at least.
>>28568968
>both
They said only one American was there, not two
Dat camo tho.
>>28568979
>they said
The pic clearly shows otherwise. But keep listening to "they" all you want.
>>28569002
I'm curious why you think that guy is an American is all, is there something that gives him away?
>>28569002
why? what evidence based on the picture gives reason to believe. the dude on the far right is american.
>>28569015
>Geissele'd 416's
>Wilcox GSGM mounts
>L3 PVS-31 battery packs
>JPC 2.0's
>RMR'd G19 + 6354DO's
There's only one unit that uses all of that gear and it certainly isn't French.
>tfw black
>would gladly go back to Africa if it meant I could form my own dictatorship empire and become black Stalin
>>28569079
Get a kickstarter going.
>>28569052
Delta?
Why would 1-2 random Delta guys be in Burkina Faso with Frogs?
>>28569099
Wouldn't we all like to know.
>>28569052
It's much more likely they are an ODA, not Delta.
>>28569119
How many ODA's are rocking 416's?
>416's that look exactly like pic related
>>28569119
Such operator gear screams tier 1, isn't it ?
>>28569174
>it is entirely impossible for an ODA to have 416s
?
>>28569224
ODAs are tier 1, they are in the same funding bracket as Delta.
What do you think ODAs are?
>>28569227
No, not really.
In before "but they use what they want to!"
>>28569243
>No, not really.
?
It's not out of this world for them to use 416s man, even RRC get them.
>>28569275
Uhhh, no. Pics or it didn't happen.
>>28569320
Prove to me that ODAs can't have 416s then?
These are GBs dude, they can realistically get them if they wanted.
AFRICOM has a nice budget going for them as well.
>>28569174
>>28569224
Not that poster, but I think a lot of people would be surprised just how much gear can get disseminated throughout SOCOM units once it has entered the DoD/Govt. supply line. JSOC stuff can easily end up in other SOCOM units once this happens.
Mk.24s that were originally for DEVGRU have basically entered common service with the rest of the teams now despite no official adoption from the rest of the teams, for instance.
It wouldn't be at all surprising if the SF CIF teams gearing up for deployments were getting new stuff and giving the Mk.18s and older gear a rest.
Of course it could also easily be Delta too, but just throwing a point out there.
>>28569347
This, especially as units get redeployed out of Afghanistan and into Africa a lot of that shit will start getting spread around.
There is honestly no reason why an ODA couldn't have that stuff.
>>28568525
The one wearing camouflage that doesn't blend into any known or unknown terrain on this planet.
>>28569328
>prove it then
>no you!!!
Dude, just stahp. If any one could have them everyone would. Except they can't, and they don't.
>>28569365
>JSOC unit doing CIF with Africa wouldn't have similar/the same gear as other JSOC units
what
>>28566228
>>28568404
>France comes to a gun fight dressed in camo and full battle rattle gear
>America comes to a gun fight dressed in blue jeans
Boss as fuck desu.
>>28569427
maybe the french lent him gear?
i dont think he was expecting to have to clear a hotel judging by what hes wearing
![y1p93gzke4ylgxddborsvrm1cs[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XRfA6wF.jpg "y1p93gzke4ylgxddborsvrm1cs[1].jpg")
>>28569328
Not the same unit, but the Army made AWG turn in their HK416s after they bought them. Outside of special mission units like Delta/DEVGRU, SOCOM still has its own standardization and supply chain. They're much more lax than the big army, but they still want their troops to use weapons that have parts commonality. This is part of the reason why the SEALs are adopting the Glock 19 Gen 3, because Special Forces, Rangers, and MARSOC have and it allows them to share a common pool of parts and maintenance that saves them money in the long term.
While it's not impossible for Green Berets to use HK416s, it's very very unlikely. And that specific configuration of it is known to be a Delta Force thing. They also do Foreign Interal Defence on occasions and they might have been assisting/advising the French or Burkina Faso special forces
>>28569489
You've convinced me, anon.
>>28568979
>At least one member of US special forces were involved in the storming of the hotel alongside French and Burkinabe special forces
>At least
How about reading the article ?
>>28569437
The french don't use the stuff mentioned in >>28569052
It's more likely he just threw on his plate carrier/helmet because he didn't have time to change his clothes.
>>28568404
What rifle is that guy using second from the left? That doesn't look like a HK416. It looks like it has a standard M4 buttstock with a 20 inch barrel and a KAC quad rail. Some kind of C7 variant?
>>28569540
Oddly enough it looks like a Block II M4A1; RIS II, SU-230 and SF or NT4 suppressor.
>>28569174
How the fuck can you tell that's a 416?
>>28569437
>resting and drinking a beer at the cafe
>operator cellphone rings
>"hey dude, ready for some kebab removal ?"
>tfw
>>28569517
I don't know for the rst of said gear, but french army bought a whole container of 416 as "test" supply for an outgoing contract for service rifle... 416 is more common on french SF than : FN AR type.
>>28569600
>he can't readily identify, itemize and describe every SOF weapon and accessory from a 200x200 .jpg
pls go and stay go
>>28569618
Yes and in this case they're predominantly A5 variants with a few outliers configured in a similar fashion (not to mention held by obvious French operators.)
The two weapons and personnel in question here are distinctly unique from the others and are equipped identically to those we know to be part of "the unit."
>>28569489
>A U.S. defense official said that France had requested U.S. intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance support in the city and at least one U.S. military member in Burkina Faso was giving 'advice and assistance' to French forces at the hotel
![Mr_Swirl[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GKD1XsI.jpg "Mr_Swirl[1].jpg")
>>28569489
Swirl isn't secure anymore, better go full retro black sharpie marker bars for full op/persec
>>28569540
>>28569599
>>28569600
pic related
>>28569618
Fench don't use Geissele rails for a start.
>>28569710
>2ND FROM THE LEFT
RIS II's don't fit the 416 you goober.
![torchcut[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gmRxXb7.jpg "torchcut[1].jpg")
>>28569600
The magwell. The ones in US inventory aren't HK416A5s, so they don't have the updated magwell. The older HK416s have a magwell that are level with the trigger guard. It's also known that Delta customizes their 416s with Geissele rails while DEVGRU uses Remington RAHGs
>>28568404
Dumb question (non military here) but why do they use silencers ?
>>28569850
They lower muzzle flash and noise. Also because they're sof so why the fuck not
>>28569850
Signature reduction ie: less muzzle flash, dust kickup, sound dampening and most helpful in a close proximity team environment is drastically minimized concussive muzzle blast.
>>28569707
I remember when they caught this retard
>>28568878
He was there just sitting around and smoking some ganja, but when he saw the frogs he asked if they wanted help. They said fuck it, tag along brah.
>>28568525
The fat one or the spic. ;)
>>28569890
>>28569884
So every counter terrorist force in a hostage situation should have silencers ?
>>28570043
everyone should use silencers. There is literally no reason not to 90% of the time
>>28570043
Sure why not. If you have multiple terrorists in different locations you don't need to give your position away so easily. Also hearing damage. No need to wreck the eardrums of your highly trained forces
>>28568893
Those guys are CAG. So maybe not.
>>28569079
Would you take back Zimbabwe?
So I called the whitest house on the block and asked them what Delta was doing over there and was promptly transferred to someone who denied everything then started to pry into why I was asking and who exactly I was.
nice. wonder wtf is happening over there
>>28569090
Underrated post
>>28569427
>>28569437
The French probably just grabbed the closest American they could find. He most likely is an accountant or something.
>>28569275
>RRC
Is a JSOC component - same as CAG/DEVGRU/ISA.
SF is tier 3, white side SOF (aside from the CIF companies). Them running around with host nation weapons isn't unusual. Them running around with anything outside the normal SOF procurement chain is.
>>28566228
>An Australian couple have also reportedly been kidnapped near Burkina Faso's northern border with Mali
will the SASR go and rescue them?
>>28569099
The U.S. probably had some good intel something was going down in the area is my only guess.
>>28569079
>black stalin
holy shit do this please
>>28568979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abrKxAHJ7qU
Watch this if your short on time, skip to 30:20
Do you honestly believe everything the news tells you?
>>28573074
>SF is tier 3
not him but no they aren't
Anyone got pictures?
That MP7,
>>28570923
and how do you know?
Larger image of OP.
>>28574555
It's not really that complicated. All of these autists claiming white SF has Geissele'd 416s are full of it. I've never seen any pictures of white side SF with issued 416s.
People claiming they "trickled down" from the SMU's are idiots. That happened with NSW and the Mk24 mostly because the Mk23 is a brick and they realized the "suppressed pistol" niche needed filling at all levels, not just tier 1. On the other hand the SOCOM-paid-for SOPMOD block 2 rifles are 95% there and there's no real reason for SF to waste discretionary funding on 416s. This is the same reason everyone's going to the Glock 19 instead of dicking around with their own special snowflake handguns.
What were so many American troops doing in Burkina Faso?
>>28570065
Increased weight and length, also makes the weapon a bitch to clean. I don't use my suppressor 90% of the time
>>28575303
What?
>>28569079
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/05/justice/americans-charged-gambia-coup-conspiracy/
Too bad, State Department would sell you down the river.
I swear I saw an image from this incident where one of the OPERATORs was carrying a SIG, a 553 I believe.
Do the frogs use them occasionally?
>>28579543
Yes they do.
Baguette operators are using multicam as well now?
>>28579769
Yes (Service Action of DGSE and Nageurs de Combat mainly). DGSE is in Burkina since at least 2012 (HQ of Operation Sabre).
>>28579769
Everyone wears Multicam because they want to look cool like America.
Fuck, even Russia has their own knock off.
>>28579842
>russian military still unironically uses AKs
>>28569079
>Black Stalin
You could be called Ballin.
>>28569099
>>28569112
Probably because Islamic militants took westerners hostage there. The US has maintained a presence in Africa for decades and recent activity in that area would only have increased the manning.
>>28569489
I've been reading Relentless Strike and this passage is very much related
>JSOC preferred for the Army to pay for Tier 2 units like the Rangers and TF 160, while equipping the Tier 1 units almost entirely via U.S. Special Operations Command Major Force Program-11, a congressionally mandated fund that allowed SOCOM, under which JSOC now fell, to pay for special operations–specific gear, as if it were its own service.
"Tier 1" SMUs basically have their own allocated budget for fancy equipment while others are still paid for by the big army for the most part
