Should non naturally born citizens of the U.S. be able to own guns?
>citizens
Of course anon
Citizen as in legally a citizen? Of course they should, what a stupid fucking question
Should you be allowed to own guns?
>>28487010
Are you retarded?
Yes. Denying certain rights to certain citizens is how fascist states are started
Why the fuck not?
Of course. What an absurd question.
>>28487010
yes, except for retards...like OP
Is this one of those threads to see how racist /k/ is or something?
Some naturally born citizens shouldn't be allowed, niggers for example.
Only if they are white.
>>28487109
>the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
>unless I don't like the color of your skin or the way you act
Fuck off faggot
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
I'm from Japan
Not even a citizen, and I own 4 guns. I love america and freedom, and would fight and die so I could be free. I'm legal resident, student, but not a citizen. I don't think I can own NFA.
>>28487073
Of course it's bait.
And of course anyone who seriously asks that question gets bullshit answers.
Every race has xenophobic tendencies.
White American people in particular have good reasons to be xenophobic against minorities, because schools are indoctrinating them to think white people are why the world sucks when the reality is the world was always a violent fear filled shithole even before white people existed.
When did white people happen, anyways?
>>28487051
look at this fucking retard
The "muh equality" fad is how every genocide/mass murder started
Hell yeah vat-grown monstrosities can carry guns, you never heard of mutant pogroms?
>>28487190
Props duder
>>28487010
I don't think citizen means what you think citizen means. You seem to be confusing non-citizen immigrant resident with citizen. They are not the same thing.
Man, public education sure is sucking the dollars without showing results.
>>28487180
ackshually
>the way you act
is a valid reason to deny firearm ownership
re: violent criminality
>>28487190
>tumblrtaleposting
good, you don't deserve guns
>>28487208
Genetically? About 50,000 years ago i think.
>>28487180
Non-whites were not citizens when that was written
They were specifically excluded
dumbfuck
>>28487305
Well, they are now, you fucking autist.
>>28487320
And that's terrible
>>28487180
Nah, non-whites are pretty insufferable
>>28487276
Undertale is a good game. Better than most games out there.
Because I'm a nip you think I should only play Final Fantasy and MoHun?
Britbong here
Is a permanant resident of the us
Soon to get dual citizenship
Op are you asking to have my gins taken from me?
Are you avin' a giggle or what mate?
>>28487346
>stormfag calling anyone insufferable
That's rich.
>>28487010
I'm from Korea and fuck you, I can shoot people from my roof if I want to.
Are you a liberal cuck, OP? Why do you want to take my rights away?
>>28487210
most notably because the free folk were trying very hard to keep other people in some sort of legally defined non free status
considering that latinos and black will very soon approach equal or greater than levels of population in regards to whites, you should really consider whether you want your government to be able to decide who gets which rights
>>28487010
If they're legal I'd say yes. In fact they should give you a gun along with your paper saying you're a u.s. citizen.
I also believe that there should be a law that every man/woman who is allowed to, should have carry a gun on them at pretty much all times while outside their home. They also have to go through like a week long class before they can carry....not some sit down class of listening to a person speak, a class on learning how to maintain and actually use the gun.
An armed society is a polite society.....oh one can dream.
They are able to, and should be, to own them. It's a little more paperwork for someone who's a naturalized immigrant than someone who is born with a SSN, but they're citizens too. They have equal protection and rights under the law, and the same Bill of Rights that gives us the 2nd Ammendment also guarantees this in the 14th.
>>28487444
>oh one can dream
Nope. The American dream's destruction is one of the objectives of liberals.
>>28487010
>>non naturally born citizens
what you mean like surrogates, c-section births and IVF babies?
That's discrimination you tart
Anyone who isn't in prison should be allowed to own any firearm they want.
>BUT BUT MUH FELONS
Should have their full rights restored once their service is complete.
>BUT BUT MUH RECIDIVISM
If we can argue that we should strip rights from an individual merely because they fall into a certain demographic, then those aren't rights that individual has.
>BUT BUT MUH ILLEGAL ALIUMS!
Entry into the country, even repeated entry, is a nonviolent offense. While a country should have the power to control who enters, it should not have the power to remove the rights of people living under its protection.
>>28487402
I'll take civil war over turning into brazil
>>28487529
Only citizens have rights. Illegal aliens aren't citizens.
>>28487010
Yes.
And these gun rights should extend to them even in other countries when they return or visit.
And then the 2nd amendment will gradually conquer the world once the brady bunch get purged in the USA and we use our expatriates and diversity to 'not colonize' other countries that may be gun grabbers and FORCE them to allow Americans of all types to keep their funs under penalty of American military ass stomping.
And then when the world is drowing in tens of billions of guns, they will start to coalesce and the avatar of ordnance, aka our holy lord the /k/ube may be resurrected.
>>28487573
>Only citizens have rights.
Except that's not true. Plenty of rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights apply to non-citizens specifically illegal aliens.
sure
i dont see why i would trust some backwoods hick over a spic with a gun
>>28487550
Is it the soccer obsession or the good food that upsets you?
>>28487010
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>>28487365
You can do it Anon. My britbong dad got sworn in last month, and he said some of the questions that they ask are a fucking joke
>Have you ever committed an atrocity?
>Have you ever committed a war crime?
>Are you involved with terrorist groups?
>Are you a rapist?
Don't worry you guys, the government is doing their very best to screen all those Syrian "refugees".
>>28487010
They should be allowed to get the fuck out.
>>28487010
When you say "citizen" I'm assuming a legal citizen, so yes.
>>28487783
Except for the Japanese and attractive Russian girls that is.
Seriously though, if I see one more immigrant getting on TV and starting that they should get to change the way we do things rather than assimilate before they're here and people too...
Republicans wan not cheap labor.
Democrats want socialist and welfare votes.
I want neither, so get out.
>>28487848
I'm Korean and I love America, and I lived here since I was two, and you want me to get out?
>>28487010
Yes
I don't think every spic who jumps the border is a "naturally born citizen" though. In fact, I think it would be far better if they were either enslaved, deported, or massacred.
>>28487010
No, non-Americans don't understand the idea of the 2nd amendment and the the fundamentals of firearms usage. They think only police and criminals have guns.
>>28487860
Not unless you start chimping out with the niggers and spics
Otherwise you are a welcome contributor to our economy and I would be honored to work with you.
>>28487716
>good food
>>28487010
I already do.
COME AND TAKE IT.
I'm not even a citizen and I legally own guns.
>>28487943
You think various tubers mashed up and fried in pork lard, all manner of atlantic seafood, and smoked meats are bad? Where the fuck are you from that has warped your palate this way?
>>28487010
mate, I'm a resident alien, in CA, and have a gun.
don't even have to be a citizen.
>>28487779
green card paperwork asks if you're a communist. pretty funny.
>>28487860
Have you assimilated into a tax paying, constitution loving individual?
If so, then I guess you can stay.
Really though, I would prefer I'm immigration be limited to those who demonstrate exceptional skills and aptitudes or have been properly trained in a needed income earning profession such as having a being a neurosurgeon, rocket scientist etc..
Sorry buddy, no I'll will towards you or any individual but I don't want the mass immigration of your family. It's for purely selfish reasons.
>>28488678
How do you feel about people in the skilled trades?
>>28487010
What kind of retarded ass /politic/ question is this, of course they should
>>28487010
fuck off and die Trump
yes the second amendment still applies to the green card mexican who cleans your pool and fucks your daughter.
>>28487276
Everyone deserves guns.
Everyone.
>>28488720
I just read the post you are responding to. I'm very ashamed of the grammar and would like to blame my phone.
I'm probably not willing to make exceptions for skilled labor. You will never grow domestic skilled labor by importing it and where do you draw the line at skilled?
Let's say we are very short of brick layers, maybe in response to an earthquake there is an immediate and dire need in order to rebuild and we should allow some on work visa but generally, day to day, I would say let the market correct itself.
Is like farmers crying they can't fill the farmhand jobs. I say, that means they aren't willing to pay what the work is worth and so want cheap immigrant labor. Maybe oranges will be cheaper but in my mind this doesn't have a net benefit for me in the long run.
>>28487276
boy are you in for a rude shock.
>>28487276
die in a hail of bullets gungrabber
>>28488835
Welders and machinists though? Do you only want those that get bachelors degrees or higher in their fields? What about businesses that want to set up shop in America? At what point does it become beneficial enough? If I move my small company a couple miles and cross the border I would be paying a lot less taxes, but the American government would be the ones getting them.
>>British
>>Want to move to the US for dem low taxes and guns
If I can't get several guns then I don't see the point desu
Should non naturally born citizens of the U.S. be able to
>have free speech
>right against unreasonable searches and seizures
>have legal representation
the answer is yes, tardo
doesnt matter what country you are a citizen of, you should be able to own guns anywhere. everyone has the right to self defense
>>28487758
Yea but like, what are arms tho?
>>28488901
The education I was referring to required a doctorate not a bachelor's.
Welder, electrician, mason, these can be had at vocational school. The only reason to import people to perform these functions is for cheaper labor which may slightly drive down the cost of some domestic services but also drives down the demand for skilled labor hurting those who are here and degrading quality of life by cheapening American labor and increasing population density.
Now, the natural response is to point out that places compete for businesses to come to them and low taxes and associate costs are the best way to do that. That not making labor as cheap as possible will price is out of business. Well, that's what tariffs are for and frankly things like gdp and growth are horrible ways to measure the health of a country. Just like businesses today are too obsessed with immediate stock prices instead of long term term accountability to its associates and the future.
But those are just like my feelings man.
>>28487365
nobody wants your fucking booze dude.
>>28489623
>he doesn't want a good gin and tonic
Everyone gets gun. EVERYONE
>>28490166
Mandatory gun ownership, huh?
I am intrigued by your ideas and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
>>28487010
Yes, as long as there white. I don't believe non-whites should have access to firearms. They simply can't be trusted.
>>28487010
If they're a citizen yes they should. Maybe you shouldn't be able to have a gun. You fucking closet racist. Now I'm worried you're going to shoot up my favorite Mexican restaurants.
>>28490293
jesus fuck,,, where was his gun? win or lose, no little nigger pissshit would try that shit if he knew everyone was armed
>>28490293
that webm is brutal, should have be labeled reason to carry at work
>>28490452
White as in 100% linage from the Caucasus and therefor only a tiny minority of whites would ever be eligible.
No, they are not citizens and are a threat to the safety of the Anglo population. They must systematically exterminated in retaliation for attempting the same to us for the last few thousand years.
>>28490497
No. Whites as in from Europe. Even spaniards and italians I guess...
>>28490485
I dunno, but I'd be carrying if I didn't live in a dindu-free zone.
>>28490494
Agreed.
>>28487010
But they can. I think all you need is a green card and proof of residency for whatever state you live in, plus whatever other requirements the state lays out in general.
>>28487010
What part of "shall not be infringed" aren't you understanding, anon? In fact, I could argue that non-naturally born citizens need them MORE.
>>28487010
Is this some b.s. thought you came up with after listening to Rushbo and Hannity all day bloviating about Ted Cruz? Of course citizens should be afforded all enumerated rights and others.
The Cruz thing is a non-issue. Heck, even I could be president next decade
>>28487716
>Brazil is a great place because of a game they can't even win and some shitty greasy food
We should just fuse /k/ with /pol/, it seems like such a natural albeit unholy Union. Also, fuck mods those worthless cunts
>>28487010
Citizens, Yes. People that jump a wall and sneak in? No.
>>28487550
If you knew how easy is to get a gun over here, you wouldn't be saying that.
>>28490704
And furthermore, without the right to own guns, what reason is there to live in the US?. Germany has better nightclubs than us, Japan has better TV shows than us, Dubai and Quatar have better infrastructure than us, Mexico has better manufacturing than us, Korea has better music than us, and everyone, everyone, EVERYONE has faster internet than us. To be quite honest, aside from the right to bear arms, I can't think of a single reason to live in the United States.
>>28490790
>TV and nightclubs are what make nations great
>>28490790
Do any of those other countries have FREEDOM?
>>28490790
>Korea has better music than us
I'm Korean and I think K-pop is shit.
American music is shit also though.
Am I a hipster?
>>28490759
>Brazilian food
>greasy
Yeah...
>>28487024
/thread
>>28490790
You're welcome to leave any time.
>>28490790
Dude, c'mon, you listed one arbitrary thing for each different country. By your own argument, the US can still be an overall better place to live
>>28487010
Citizens?
Yes
Illegal immigrants?
Fuck no.
>>28490866
Depends. What music DO you like?
>>28488362
Do they really think anyone is stupid enough to answer yes to this kind of shit? And how the fuck does it play out if you DO say yes?
>Well, I guess we can let you in since you were honest. Have a nice day Mr. Allah Ackbar!
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