Bullet button sucks, so I'm thinking of making my raifu featureless and getting one of those FRS-15 stocks. What does k think of said funny looking thingie?
Honestly, I think it's fucked up you're forced into that kind of thing, but I actually kind of like it. It gives it kind of a cool futuristic look.
>>28423500
Get a real configuration anyway. Fuck them.
>>28423500
Ironically well suited for rapid hip firing.
Thanks Feinstein.
>>28423500
I know this sounds silly, but I have actually thought about buying one because I would have the only one in North Dakota.
In all seriousness, their big issue is ergonomics. With a hand on the grip, the mag release can be hard to reach and the angle and length of pull is odd but not unusable.
>>28423500
Im in TN, I actually like em. I Also am replicating pic.
>>28423513
This
no shill
>>28423528
Please, say more about this thing you are replicating.
>>28423500
It would look a lot less goofy if you were able to make it a thumbhole stock. Obviously, though, connecting the buffer tube and the stock would make it extremely dangerous and deadly to civilians.
>>28423500
Or just get the thing the wraps around the normal grip but blocks off the space between the stick and grip.
>>28423546
Google the Ares SCR
>>28423523
>Ironically well suited for rapid hip firing.
I know right. You could actually hold the thing one-handed, brace the stock against your chest and spray a room. Couldn't do that with too many other non-commie designs out there.
Not that I've actually thought about doing that, but y'know.
>>28423563
Neato.
I have this but with a standard fixed stock configuration
>>28423642
>this makes the gun no longer able to murderize innocent children
glad i don't have to use this shit
>>28423646
I'm probably stuck here for another year or 2 if I'm lucky.
>>28423642
Not gonna lie, that looks terrible.
>>28423665
iktf, bro
i would move out of this shithole, but that would mean looking for a new job and a new house and shit.
>>28423642
God damn, it looks like it fell and broke its leg.
these are some ugly ass rifles
id honestly consider noguns
>>28423642
>this kills the gun
>>28423500
Damn that sucks
>>28423500
Just go bullet button and get the little magnetic tool and put a normal stock on
I wouldn't. Its bad and against the law though. So totally never get one
>>28423500
I know the guy who makes these personally. He loopholes CA gun laws and doesn't afraid of anything. Buy with confidence.
>>28425260
Automatic felony if you use mags over 10rds in a "fixed" mag lower, and using a mag magnet or other "tool" like that is still legally dubious, to date DOJ's only stance has been "no comment".
Just understand that if some power hungry cop arrests you for said "tool" and you don't have very good lawyers (as there is no current case law to back you up) it might seriously fuck up your life, even if you could get out of a conviction should the worst happen.
be happy at least you can have bb califags, in ny its top load only. you know how much of a pain in the ass that is?
http://shop.solartactical.com/SOLAR-TACTICAL-KYDEX-GRIP-WRAP-FEATURELESS-BUILDS_c19.htm
This is all that is needed to make the gun legal in california
besides a muzzle brake than a flash hider or 10 round magazines
NO FAGGOT BULLET BUTTONS
NO FLAT MUZZLES
NO ODD STOCKS
and if new laws get passed to lift the bans
than you can easily just remove the sleeve and and a normal ar15 or if you move to another state you dont have to do much to fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ATsHBXG7w
as gay as it is
there are TONS of california gun owners
Supremely free texasfag here. What's the bullet button? Something you have to physically press to reset the trigger?
>>28426100
A device that locks the magazine into the magwell. You need a "tool" to remove it, 8ny this case, a .223 round.
>>28426100
>>28426144
its not needed if you have this >>28425999
>>28423563
HURR DURR REMEMBER KIDS THE BARREL IS WELDED ONTO THE RECEIVER SO IF THE BARREL IS WORN OUT FROM LOTS OF SHOOTING YOU HAVE TO BUY THE ENTIRE NEW RECEIVER MEANWHILE WITH AR15S YOU JUST HAVE TO REPLACE THE BARREL BECAUSE IT'S NOT WELDED ONTO THE RECEIVER HURR DURR!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>28426302
we need liberal reform
im unfortunately moving to california because my father got a job there and im tied to my family mostly
but i live in a state that is just as bad NJ
at least there is oregon, nevada, and utah nearby
>>28425999
you realize that still is a pistol grip and protrudes past the trigger guard right? aka not legal.
>>28426393
Then that company would be shutdown
its legal
>>28426393
The thumb can't wrap around though you retarded faggot.
>>28426302
Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr dat video dat video why.
>>28426398
>>28426403
Doesn't matter, it still protrudes past the trigger guard.
>>28426428
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/10/09/bill-to-close-bullet-button-loophole-awaits-gov-browns-signature/
>>28423528
>mfw they can be converted to 22-45 sharps
>>28423500
It certainly beats not being able to reload your weapon in a moment of pressure and panic.
>>28426505
oh no that's not true at all. The guy just made it up, even when the reporter was trying to correct him.
Making shit up is how they pass the majority of these laws. Makes you wonder how incompetent they actually are.
>>28426403
>>28426410
Yea even that website says it "complies but not approved" so if you got money for court knock yourself out
>>28426582
CA DOJ doesn't approve anything idiot.
>>28423526
>With a hand on the grip, the mag release can be hard to reach
Made a non-issue with a bullet button :^)
>>28426761
But they will be the ones to arrest you at the range if you have one too many "evil features" on your rifle.
>>28426784
huh?
more likely is some random hears shots, calls cops, they come take your shit
>>28423500
http://shop.solartactical.com/SOLAR-TACTICAL-KYDEX-GRIP-WRAP-FEATURELESS-BUILDS_c19.htm
try this
>>28426826
Really? Hell thought firearm offenses carried time with them.
>>28426906
Needs to have a fixed stock a muzzle break not a flash hider and no Vertical forgrip
>>28426302
Why the fuck would you go on tv and just make shit ip on the spot like that?
![geico-horror-movie-ss-05[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XSWeTGQ.jpg "geico-horror-movie-ss-05[1].jpg")
>>28423642
>>28423500
I always facepalm when I see retardedness like this.
>these gunz with grips are too dangerous
>invent non scary way to shoot gun, but makes gun harder to shoot / aim
>thus making the gun harder to hit the intended target, and in essence more dangerous
Fucking libtard logic man. SOOO glad I don't have to deal with this...
>until the next executive order comes out, FUG
>>28426922
They don't care about safety, at least not our safety. If they did no one would be okay with those sealed magwell AR15s. The fucking gun is designed to vent gas out the magwell in the event of catastrophic failure to reduce the chance of possible injury to the operator for fuck's sake.
>>28426581
>prompting state Sen. Leland Yee to introduce the first version of the legislation.
Not incompetent at all, as he was selling guns on the side, and authored bills to make guns in CA as shitty as possible to drive business up.
>>28427050
>people are going to want what they want and someone will find a way to give it to them
He knew exactly what he was doing.
>>28426455
Are there any semi-auto rifles that don't have the capacity to accept removable magazines? Even hunting guns like the Browning BAR have removable magazines (even if they're 3 or 5 rounds)
>>28427108
M1?
>>28427148
That's a military rifle. I mean current production semi auto rifles. I don't think a single one (outside of maybe the Marlin Model 60) have a non-removable magazine. You'd have to have an open top to put rounds in, which is less durable and makes mounting a scope more difficult. Even the Remington Model 750 has a removable magazine.
>>28427170
Tube mag .22s.
>>28427196
>outside of maybe the Marlin Model 60
The implication was that I was acknowledging the existence of tub mag 22s
>>28423549
Thumbhole stocks are also a banned feature. No go m8.
>>28427108
Unmodified SKS.
>>28427196
Yeah, I mean he did say Marlin Model 60.
>>28426455
> 2013
It didn't happen. "Assault Rifles" with bullet buttons are still perfectly legal.
>>28427243
An unmodified SKS has "the capacity to accept removable magazines", which is the criteria under the law. Just take out the fixed magazine and rock a jam-o-matic in.
>>28427229
Thumbhole stocks are fine with a bullet button, and banned without one. Yes, we are all aware that that makes no sense. But there isn't a complete, unconditional ban on them.
>>28427258
You're legally wrong. SKSs are not considered to have the capacity to accept removable mags. Just like bullet buttoned rifles are not considered to have said capacity either.
>>28423500
Just buy an SCR
>>28427276
The law that was linked was specifically crafted to prevent ARs with bullet buttons from being sold in CA. Previously, the law stated that the magazine must require a tool to be removed. This law would change it so that NO semiauto rifle could have a removable magazine whatsoever.
>>28423500
I have a ton of these i bought for cheap. I only have 1 installed though. I works, but the grip angle isn't very comfortable. Everyone always say im dumb for not using a BB, despite the fact I always have a BB'd lower right next to it.
>>28427304
Except the law was never enacted, so it's irrelevant. And regardless, it would have been thrown out in court because it is effectively a complete ban on semi-automatics, which the courts have made pretty damn clear is an overreach in their eyes.
>>28426428
Because banning bullet buttons would thus ban rifles with pistol grips, flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and adjustable stocks completely.
Despite what you non Californian gun owners think about the bullet button should not be existing in the first place, it allows these rifles to be sold and be owned and used when technically in theory they are all banned.
It still allows Californians to be better off than New Yorkers, Jerseyians, Marylandians, Bostonians, Canadians, Australians and Brits.
>>28428265
It shouldn't be a thing in the first place, you should be free.
>>28423500
Just get an ambidexterous mag release and put the radlock on it, then always release it from the left side. nobody will ever see the tiny lever on the other side while focusing on the button instead
>>28426921
Power and Money.
Truth and Responsibility died a long, long time ago and the news media is about social consumerism and commercialism.
Keep repeating false information long enough and it becomes fact...like how nerds misuse the word decimation to describe a route, or full annihilation of enemy forces.
Words, political parties have changed drastically from what they used to mean.
>>28426922
Eh, the FRS-15 stock on coupled with a light weight build (barrel and choice of rail) is pretty handy.
>>28423500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLY_y2dNRX4
>>28423500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKOfLxWbElQ
>>28423526
Where in ND do you live? I too live here.
I'm in a communist area with an AWB, yet the state has pre-emption over pistols so they're not regulated. Would it be retarded of me to build a 16" barrel AR pistol with just a buffer tube?
>>28423500
WATCH THIS, This actually has footage of guys shooting with a FRS-15
If you don't have manlet baby hands you can activate the mag release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDnrXHEkKWk
>>28426100
>Something you have to physically press to reset the trigger?
don't give them ideas
>>28427170
> that's a military rifle
So get CMP membership and load up faggot. Get sweet sweet military hardware straight from the horse's ass.
>>28423642
This looks downright retarded
>>28426558
You mean 25-45 Sharps, right Senpai?
>>28430242
Shitty pic but this is my take. Truth be told it sucks not being able to use my pistol grip without the possibility of a felony charge. I usually swap out the Hammerhead grip for a standard A2 when I'm in a free state.
Rifle is still perfectly functional, I did turn the selector around as it's easier to use being right handed on this set up. Other than the grip the only real compromise on the build was a Smoke Composites fixed stock instead of something adjustable.
Lower is made from a blank, I'm thinking about building a handgun out of those Polymer 80 Spectre frames once they are out in the wild. Fuck DROS and fuck the DOJ in general, for the time being I refuse to bother with the mandatory registration/confiscation scheme.
Just use a "wonder wrench" OP. Turns your bullet button into a regular mag release and you can take it off in a few seconds.
>but, you know i'd never do that....
>or remove the rivets on 10/30 magazines
>or weld a katana as a bayonet on my 3in barreled upper
>>28428265
Hey, I don't need a bullet button on my NJ AR. So I can't get that SKD Pig muzzle thing, who cares. I get two features in NJ, not one
>>28426455
That's from 2013, one of Leland Yee's efforts that died when his career augered in. He had something like a half dozen pieces of antigun legislation in the hopper when the FBI arrested him for gun running and gangbanging. And weren't the Dems red in the face about that, let me tell you.
>>28423500
>>28423528
>>28423540
>>28423642
>>28426906
>>28430562
> """""AR15"""""
Why even bother? Why subject yourself to this?
thorsden stocks are hideous but comfy
hammerhead grips hurt my hand
spur grip is shit
mag locks are shit
I hate NY
>>28423720
Fuckin hell
>>28432206
If you have a better option than being a felon I'd love to here it.
>>28423563
>Ares SCR
Actually really neat with wood furniture
>>28432334
>>28423500
>>28423500
just get a mini14
problem solved
>>28432399
>>28432423
>>28423528
i prefer this
>>28432292
Move out of the place that hates you for even existing in the first place?
Or break the law. Unless you tell people about it or bring it out, nobody would know.
>>28423500
ghei
>>28432509
>live in california
>life is suffering
>at the range with my boolet button
>My friend says "when is a cop going to look at your gun?"
>MFW there are two cops there shooting not more then 20ft away.
>>28423500
I work in a gun shop and have personally handled one of these. It feels good and shoulders well. I love it.
The only thing is, you should also add a double-sided selector lever to go with it, because the normal one will be hard to reach with your thumb if you are right-handed. (If you're left-handed, you lucked out.)
>>28432345
Hot diggidy dog. TAKE MY MONEY!
>>28434347
Meanwhile in the smarter liberal state of Minnesota we just dropped the ban on suppressors, and the stupid appearance bans aren't even in question.
>>28425762
I didn't say to use mags over 10 rounds
And I'd never use any tool like that, since I'm a good law abiding citizen
>>28433139
not to mention you never know when you encounter asshole bootlickers at the range. You might actually get reported and cops called.
>>28434577
Being liberal isn't what people think it is in CA's big centers. It's a fucking culture here. Deep rooted culture that bleeds into the government, media, and laws.
If it were like any other blue state, aside from NY, then sure there might be some shit on us for not acting. But the fight here is for inches if you're on the right or want to do anything that isn't in agreement and the feel-good-liberals that run this place can do things in miles.
If we change anything here, it'd be the long game, but everyone forgets this when they start talking about one of THE most liberal states in the goddamn Union.
