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How would you train and protect a teenager in a SHTF scenario?
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How would you train and protect a teenager in a SHTF scenario? What kit would you provide them with?
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>>28394902
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>>28394916
Yeopp.
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>>28394902
>protect a teenager
why would I do that? is she letting me use her as a cum dumpster?
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>>28394933
Yes but offscreen.
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>>28394916
Tape is sexier, IMO
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>>28394902
If man: train in firearms, security, other technical skills as necessary

If woman: have her collect supplies, check traplines if innawoods, cook, have babies, etc.
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>>28394933
She could be your daughter, sister, neighbor, cousin, etc
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>>28394967
fucking patriarchy bullshit
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>>28394916
>>28394919
>>28394933
>>28394941
>>28394945

I clicked this thread, expecting serious answers.

Sometimes I forget this board is part of 4chan.
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>>28394902
Use her as currency, in SHTF good booze and good pussy will be worth a fortune.
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>>28394977
and?
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>>28394977
>daughter, sister, cousin
the question still stands.
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>american teen girl

leave her behind.
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>>28395001
The 4 Gs

Guns, gold, grub, and girls
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>>28394992
>implying there would be any legitimate reason to keep around an untrained teenager in a shtf scenario
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>>28394902
I'd provide them with my dick.
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>>28395041
>she gots the pussi b0ss
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>>28394916
/thread
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>>28395041
>feelings
>trainable
>can keep watch
>buttsecks
Are you really going to tell them to just fuck off? I mean I don't have high expectations for most people, but I'd imagine you'd at least have SOME guilt.
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>>28395041
implying every SHTF "operator" doesn't have a few kids.
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>>28395036
>gold
why would gold be important? I imagine things you could actually have a use for would be far more valuable. you think if you took a gold bar to a tribe in africa they would give a fuck about it?
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Alright. In an attempt to bring in some serious answers I'll change the parameters. She is a master tier mechanic and knows her way around firearms. Also you suspect she has herpes but you aren't sure.
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>>28394902
>teenage boy
Plates, rucksack, AR. Just like the men, duh.

>girl
Rucksack, gun if we can spare it

But really SHTF I'm staying out in the compound, but everyone in our group has a bug out bag and all the dads have things to take care of their kids or have trained the kids if they're old enough.
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>>28395068
why would everyone have a few kids?
tell me anon, do you currently have a few kids? do you think a majority of people on 4chan have a few kids?
>>28395067
resources used on training the fucker would be better used elsewhere. this is why you train your people before shit hits the fan and don't end up with dead weight.
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>>28395041
>labor
>potentially extra fighter once trained
>reproduction
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>>28395069
Universally accepted currency is always a plus.
>>28395073
>master mechanic
>can use firearms
Of course, you'd keep them around, you'd be stupid not to.
>you suspect she has herpes
>mfw
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>>28395073

No skills that are any help to me, and can't fuck her?

Let her fend for herself.
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>>28394992
Oh yes, we forgot we cannot hurt your delicate sensibilities here. So sorry about that, you cum guzzling faggot.
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>>28394902
>
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>>28395073
>master-tier mechanic
A trap? A trap that smells like 90 weight motor oil? You have my interest.
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>>28395087
I have a kid
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>>28395091
I still think cigarettes and booze would be far more valuable in SHTF than gold would ever be, lighter too.
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>>28395091
>Universally accepted currency
no one would give a shit about it if it doesn't serve them any purpose. This is assuming a societal collapse. again, do you think a tribesman in africa would care about a bar of gold?
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>>28395091
>hey there fellow apocalypse survivor, would you like some rare metal with no applications besides jewelry and electronic manufacturing in exchange for some of your extremely useful and important ammunition or food?
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>>28395100
ya caught me
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Alright take away the threat of herpes. Add excellent cooking, encyclopedic knowledge of bushcraft, medicine, and give her a feminine penis.
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>>28395159
so then what's the question?
How would you train and protect someone that's incredibly well trained and able to protect themselves? If they can do everything you said, they already have a kit.
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>>28395168
I don't even know anymore.
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>>28395120
>>28395135
>>28395142
People have always used shiny things like gold and silver to trade, before we were relatively civilized. I'm not saying it'd be the best form of currency, but it'd certainly be worth taking with you.

Food, cigs, and booze would definitely be more valuable for it's weight, I'm not denying that.
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teenagers are just slightly smaller people. They can do just about anything a person can. Depending on the age rather treat them as an adult or if really young just train them as a smaller person.
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>>28395195
>food, cigs, booze would be more valuable for its weight
so why the fuck would you bother taking gold with you?
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>>28394902
>train and protect
run a train with no protection

>equip
provide with 223 to back of head
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>>28395217
It's still worth carrying. Yeah it might slightly weigh you down, but anyone that's not a weak faggot wouldn't have much of a problem carrying a couple extra pounds with them.
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My dick
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>>28395237
why not replace the couple extra pounds of gold with a couple extra pounds of ammo, food, water, guns, first aid supplies, cigs, booze, etc? If you're not a stupid faggot, you know that every ounce matters when you're traveling. that extra 5 pounds of worthless shit you're carrying is going to feel like 50 pounds by the end of the week.
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>>28395237
Dude. Gold is only artificially valuable.
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>>28395237
if shit hit the fan like The Road tier shtf then you might as well just carry around steel bars. about the same weight but infinitely more useful than gold in every way but made up merchant schemes
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>>28394977
i mean, neighbor is an even better reason at that point.
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>>28395254
>be me
>hike frequently at high elavation
>know all too well what excessive weight feels like
I'll still take it with me.
>>28395258
That doesn't stop people from wanting it, diamonds are only artificial (so is all money, really) but people still use it as accepted currency
>>28395284
If it's that severe, then I'll rethink my strategy.
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>>28395297
The kind of people that care about useless trinkets will be dead very soon after the happening
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This thread is amazing.
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>>28395297
I think where the problem lies is how much people are picturing the world to have fallen apart. In the absolute worst case shit hits the fan scenario that I'm guessing most people are picturing, gold would be virtually worthless. It's a metal not very good for much of anything survival related. If you're fighting to survive every day, gold will be less useful than dog shit.
if shit only kind of sucks but there's still some society left, gold might have some purpose.

let's say you were on an island and trying to survive. Some guy walks up to you and offers you a boatload of gold for the few supplies you have. What reason would you have to accept that, if it meant you were going to die because of it?
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>>28395297
>but people still use it as accepted currency
We're not exactly living under dire circumstances where simple survival is the number one priority, maybe when shit began to settle down (towns and factions began forming, maybe even some government type organizations) then it would start becoming a bit more valuable but until then it's gonna next to worthless.
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>>28395266
careful with that edge son
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>>28395371
>>28395374
I guess the problem lies within how far we've imagined societal collapse.

If it's so ridiculous that it's to 'the road' tier shit, then yea, fuck carrying gold.
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>>28394902
>Ellie
Only one thing to do.
http://www.naughtymachinima.com/video/13213/innocence-lost
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>>28395424
is he fucking her in the ass?
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>>28395415
The problem is even if we could get our shit together, start up farming and all that to prevent the whole "no food, eat people" situation, we still need to deal with the aftermath which is generally gonna last a few years at the least.

A few years is a long time to carry around something just because it's gonna become more valuable later down the road.

This is of course referring to complete societal collapse, hurricanes and earthquakes and shit like that were things will be fine in a few months, grab all the gold you can.
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>>28395444
that's how people rise to power after the dust settles and people rebuild. the weird retard hoarding all the worthless metal and barely scraping by for years is going to eventually be the most wealthy fucker on the planet.
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>>28395444
>>28395457
I guess it might be a risky move. Not too viable for nomadic lifestyle, but great to gather if you have some kind of secure home base.
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>>28395237
Are you autistic?
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>>28395468
Holy fuck what a masterful godlike heap of horseshit.
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>>28395457
There's a different kind of gold more valuable than the metal kind though.

Honey is a food source that never goes bad, he who controls the bees controls the world. Invest in the end of the world now and buy a honey farm!
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>>28395468
You've never kissed a girl have you?
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>>28395468
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>>28395468
Don't you have a show to play with Bono this weekend?
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>>28395511
I don't get it
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>>28395507
it's also good for first aid. You have to keep it sealed in something for it to never spoil though. If you just leave it out, it will go bad.
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>all these plebs that don't know that gold has antibacterial and antimicrobial properties.
>mfw
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>>28395509
Why is Sonic so universally associated with autism?
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>>28395457
>gold
>not salt
>not water purification
yeah okay. you be "wealthy".
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>>28395544
U2 are an Irish rock band from Dublin. Formed in 1976, the group consists of Bono (vocals and rhythm guitar), the Edge (lead guitar, keyboards, and vocals), Adam Clayton (bass guitar), and Larry Mullen, Jr. (drums and percussion).
>>28395554
Yes I understand now. Morality will cease to exist. I was so blind.
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>>28395073
nope, don't need another mechanic and not putting up with girl feels if she's got the herpely derpelys. she'll do fine on her own.
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>>28395554
>How is that horse shit? Are you actually saying you don't want to do that? With no laws or ANY CONSEQUENCES to stop you?
I wouldn't do that:

1. pointless waste of energy
2. possibly making a new enemy (or enemies) in a survival situation
3. if she's alive and in reasonable health, an extra pair of eyes, ears, and hands is always very valuable when hunting or scavenging.
4. assuming she's completely dead weight and isn't willing to help you survive, ditching her would be more economical and efficient than attracting predators with screams and blood.

you wouldn't last very long in the wilderness much less a "society collapse" because manchildren that do stupid things tend to die pretty quickly when their edge doesn't make up for bad decisions.
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>>28395554
>Are you actually saying you don't want to do that?

If you're serious, then you are a sociopath. Please talk to somebody.
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>>28395577
Pretty specifically said after society had rebuilt. salt would be as valuable as it is now.
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>>28395342
but we'll be rich!
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>>28395638
>I guarantee you that most men will become rapists pretty quickly
calm down with the projection, anon.
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A light AR-15 or another firearm that is magazine loaded and does not require them to manually load rounds like a shotgun, teenagers have generally poor hand eye coordination
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>>28395638
I've decided you're either severely autistic, or just baiting.

Either way, well done.
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>>28395041
> Sex
> Bait
> Trading item
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>>28395670
you're trying way too hard.
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>>28395570
probably chris-chan
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>>28395694
ur so cool
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>>28395694
>The sounds are very similar.
are you basing this off of asian porn? You have to be. there's no other explanation.
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>>28395438
wouldn't want to get her pregnant. that would be inconvenient.
btw, have you seen her ass?
its damn fuckable that's for sure.
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>>28395757
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>>28395757
>not wanting to keep a live girl like Ellie as your trusty companion for regular, consistent sex and general wasteland survival purposes
thats retarded
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>>28395670
>You're getting your rocks off torturing a young girl to death who would have died / been raped to death pretty quickly anyway. Not to mention, you can eat her flesh once she's dead. That will easily make up the lost calories.
Hate to break it to you, but you don't seem to know how it works. The human body doesn't make for good food at all - parasites, bacteria, sepsis, and other contamination that's alright in her body but will fuck you up in your. Secondly the actual caloric density is very very low due to low muscle density, poor bone structure compared to most other prey animals, and like many predator species, the fat that's there isn't optimized nutritiously for consumption for modern man. Kind of off topic, but I finished SERE and had more than one point in my professional career being stranded for days/weeks.
>So? Don't make stupid mistakes that people make in movies when the bad guys basically let the good guys escape. You won't be making an enemy, you'll be killing someone and suffering no repurcussions.
You make an assumption some try-hard isn't going to take the brutal murder of a teen aged girl personally and hunt you down like the white knight he is. While the odds are in your favor to not be caught, why roll the dice at all? Again, you are making a dumb decision by purposely murdering someone with no actual gain that would help you survive.
>And another drain on my food supply. The entertainment of killing her would be far more valuable.
Your food supply increases the more help you have when hunting/scavenging. Even dead weight can carry a dozen pounds of food or water. If she is completely dead weight, you are better off leaving her, not killing her.
>I'd do it indoors.
If there are indoors, and you assume that it wouldn't be found by others seeking shelter. Just admit you're a sociopath and that you're willing to do something stupid to satisfy your sociopathy and get over it.
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>>28394902
>How would you train
By rail.
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>>28395757
>>28395777
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>>28395813
/o/ c'mon, please
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>>28395757
>group of other survivers walk by
>see you raping a girl
>kill you, take all your supplies

you're definitely better off on your own though.
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>>28395830
oh wait, i meant /n/
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>>28395856
if she survives long enough to become "somewhat" useful, chances are she would only get stronger/smarter and more useful and in such an end of the world scenario, odds are you could meet your death before she does by any number of random encounters anyways.
If i was to use Ellie as an example, she's definitely an asset as a companion.
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>>28395869
you know there are 3rd world shitholes out there that are basically shit hits the fan kind of stuff, right? and somehow the women aren't just raped and tortured for fun. because that's fucking stupid.
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>>28395777
> I am basing this off of videos I have watched online
>I've gotten these boners since I was a small child

the true face of night /kay/ fellas
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>>28395757
I think the only way you would lose your virginity is if you actually raped some poor person in SHTF scenario, but I also bet your head that you wouldn't have the balls to do it
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>>28394902
Id give them a rifle, teach them to keep back, seek cover, lay down the law from a "safe" distance to hone some marksmanship skills, 6 months later, boom, useful and competent.
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>>28395938
I-I've totally banged all kinds of girls. I've slept with like 100 women. faggot.
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>>28395237
>>28395254
Pounds of gold. Okay. Time for bed you two, way past your bedtime.
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>>28395966
what? what's unbelievable about pounds of gold? Gold bars are a little over 25 pounds.
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>>28395922
more like one disturbed try hard that's going to die within days of "now i can do whatever i want rape rape rape" happening.
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basic street smarts: teach them to never ever trust blacks. not even once. never trust groups of young males on the prowl. exercise and protect their family.
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>>28396015
he would totally survive. he just wouldn't do any of the stupid things bad guys do in movies.
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>>28395966
>not knowing gold is extremely heavy
no u go to bed
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>>28395998
maybe he means only carrying around ounces?
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>>28394902
If girl train how to fight, shoot, scavenge, maybe bang

If boy all hte above except bang
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>>28395918
Ahem

>Africa
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>>28395694
This is where you blew it. You were baiting in fantastic fashion until this post
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>>28395918
>>28396072
...he's got you there
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>>28395073
Sex is a serious answer duderino.
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>>28396157
No he doesn't. Because everyone gets raped in Africa.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men
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>>28394902
I'd train her to get into a better game.
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>>28396360
I don't... what? you linked to something saying POWs get raped. That's really not what anyone was talking about.
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>>28394902
To start with... I would put sights on their rifle
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>>28396368
You shut your filthy whore mouth.
TLOU is the best gameever made
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>>28395633
Way to give him what he wants.
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>>28396885
Wow, I'm so sorry about your shit taste anon.
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>>28395195
left the thread because of you
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>>28394916
Got it, coming right up.
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>>28395001
>banging her
>not using her as designated ammo bearer

Get with the program.
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>>28394902
Break action shotgun, 20 gauge. Handful of buckshot loads, larger handful of birdshot loads. Fixed knife with sheath and belt. Rucksack of some sort and canteen of some sort.

They're not going to be shock infantry, they're going to be another set of hands and eyes around the compound. Thing is, nobody goes unarmed.
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>>28398385
Why not both?
>littlemexicangirl.jpg
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>>28394902
I'd train them the same way my Corporal taught me. If he could turn a bunch of angsty teenagers with dysfunctional families into an organized group of killers, then I can too.

It's the ability to influence and quite literally indoctrinate. The teenage mind is very impressionable.

I'm not so good with teenage girls or women in general. The last one I dated tried to kill me. I'd make a good faith effort to train any willing. If they don't cut it then they go willingly and leave is or I turn them over to the boys.

Every able bodied person will be needed for this fight. They will need to be trained to standard by myself. My group will use and equip them with whatever availble or practical. We are waging total war. We need pragmatism not the semantics of ideology keeping us from the task of killing. Give them something to fight for but work out the details later.
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>>28394902
I do like idea of post apocalyptic dirty sex. Gold bless freako and gaben fir SFM.
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I would make like the Nazis and train them as abandonable snipers to delay pursuers.
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Why would you want to rape and kill female teenagers during SHTF?

Literally why.
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>>28398627
any sane person would dumb dumb. It's normal to want to rape and stab women. they're worthless flesh piles, dumb ass. Normal people agree, if there were no repercussions, everyone would just start raping and stabbing girls, and join in on other people raping and murdering girls.
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>>28398640
/r9k/ please, you need to take your meds
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>>28395067
>guilt
More like regret
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>>28395468
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I would eat them, or sell them to Slavers.

There is literally zero reason to keep an untrained teen with you.

>Sex
Just jerk off, it's not like you were getting any to start off with

>Protection
If anything they would be a liability

>Companionship
Find yourself a bro or a dog
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>>28394902
Something around the .223 level. Ideally, an AR15 in an SBR setup would be optimal, as women find it harder to pull weapons into them to steady themselves.

Ideally I would have at least 50-100 rounds of ammo to train with, teaching good shooting practices and fire disciple (TD, breathing control, situational awareness and how to stay focused when everything's going to shit).

IF I couldn't giver her said AR, a .223 semi/bolt with irons, not glass, as glass promotes tunnel vision to inexperienced shooters.

Important would be training with a 9mm pistol. Probably a glock 19, something smaller than fullsize. First thing would be to trian her in point shooting, as you'd only be using said pistol at ranges where point shooting would be your best technique and then try to teach weaver/isoceles and fire control with a pistol.

Would probably arm myself with something 30.06/.308, or any fudd-tier bolt action, as ammo availability is more important than anything else in SHTF.
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>>28398726
>Just jerk off, it's not like you were getting any to start off with
r u wizerd?
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>>28395777
Clearly you are a closet homosexual there's no other explanation
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>>28395468
nothin' personnel
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>>28396072
Yeah ok... but they are Africans they do that here anyway.
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>>28398640
Yeah alright dude everyone thinks that. Not (and I'm just spit balling here) starting a family maybe getting a dog and I don't know maybe a nice house with a picket fence? Like every other dude on earth?
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>>28398834
/pol/ was always right
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>this thread
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>>28395570

Chris chan, terribly angsty and edgy sonic OC characters, I'd google it if you cared that much.
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>>28395091
>>28395069
>>28395120
>>28395135
>>28395142
>>28395195
>>28395237
>>28395258
>>28398185

Ok, yea, in a true end of the world Mad Max situation, gold will be fuck all useless.

But in situations that actually have a chance of happening, like another Katrina diaster, Gold and silver are a excellent bartering tool. Just look at any BOB guide or SHTF survival guide, I grantee gold or silver will be on the list of things to stock up on.
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>>28398374
Get that meme outta here
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>>28395266
>>28395468
>not decapitating her head for fucking purposes.

Your power level is weak.

Read more crossed.
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I would provide my dick to her mouth
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scroll through thread
>gag her
>make her cook
>have sex with her
>leave her behind
>put dick inside her
>she has a feminine penis
>buttsecks
>trade her
>brutally sexually assault her
>shoot her leg, rape her, then shoot her other leg
>' It's normal to want to rape and stab women. they're worthless flesh piles, dumb ass."
>there is no reason to keep her so eat her
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>>28400462
My mind replaced .gif with .shit for some reason.
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It's already been said
>sex
>mule
>trade
>extra eyes, hands ears etc.
The one thing I may add is bullet sponge when needed
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>>28400037
>Ok, yea, in a true end of the world Mad Max situation, gold will be fuck all useless.

you're retarded. gold is the universal currency and will be the only financial asset post SHTF to have any value.
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>>28395560
That would be silver/copper not gold
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>>28400531
Bullets, food, anything portable and usable will be currency
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>>28400535
Are you trolling or do you not have access to google?
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>>28398756

You're retarded bro. YOU want her to have a 223,. A 223 is WAY too powerful for a teenage girl with no firearms experience. She would be better off from both a weight, handling, and recoil perspective with a .22 or 9mm either AR9 (have fun paying for that) or UMP type sub gun. It's not like she is going to be kicking in doors or on long range patrols.

>as glass promotes tunnel vision to inexperienced shooters.
>Would probably arm myself with something 30.06/.308, or any fudd-tier bolt action, as ammo availability is more important than anything else in SHTF.

ffs you need to go back to basics son.
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>>28396070
>If boy all hte above except bang
if they're cute enough it wouldn't matter to me
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>>28400543

look newfag, ammo and food is perishable consumer goods. gold and silver is not.
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>>28398756

>Ideally I would have at least 50-100 rounds of ammo to train with

seriously wtf at least 50 rounds to train with? are you some kind of normie fag who thinks all you need is a 20 round box? ffs you don't have a prayer.
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>>28400462
honestly your best long-term scenario would be to keep them around for mating
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>>28400562
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligodynamic_effectq
What I am saying is that you can use copper which is widely available instead of hoarding gold.
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>>28395041
> Prevents becoming over-encumbered, allowing fast travel
> Cannon fodder
> Tube steak boogie on the reg
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>>28394916
First reply best reply
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>>28401183
>Tube steak boogie on the reg

You must be aussie cause that's a fine post
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>>28401206
>aussies
>fine posts

>>28400563
>UMP type sub gun
>for someone too weak to fire a .223

Why the fuck would you give a teenager with noodle arms a sub machine-gun you fool
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>>28394987
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>>28401231

so internet tough guy, you tell me a teen can't handle this?
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>>28401231
Volume of fire?
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>>28394977
Sooo...yes?
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tell them that they are no longer human. they are a predator. they need to be aware and focused at all times. then teach them basic marksmanship and camouflage (aka stay out of the open).
most important thing is being prepared though. bury your food/water caches now.
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>>28395088
Sweet sweet untrained teen reproduction.
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>>28400037
>Just look at any BOB guide or SHTF survival guide, I grantee gold or silver will be on the list
because those people are invested in precious metals

gold is dumb
more than a few ounces of silver is dumb
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>>28401206
Nah man, I just like ZZ Top
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>>28400583
Don't want to waste ammo post-apoc, hombre. I'd love to have 200 rounds to spare for training, but i'll realistically take 50-100.

>>28400563
Ammo supply is king in SHTF.

And glass DOES promote tunnel vision in inexperienced shooters. It's the nature of the beast. Irons will promote better situational awareness and will work better at most ranges in an urban environment.

Note I say glass, and not a 4x aimpoint or red dot.
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>>28396070
Boipussy is still pussy
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>>28400462
If you happen to be that only female on /k/...
Run
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>>28400571
So when no one wants to trade for your non existent gold you won't moan like a little bitch right?
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>>28395570
Google: "[your name] the hedgehog" and find out
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>>28402634
Is everyone trying to be edgy faggots or do they actually feel this way?
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>>28403208
just being edgy, these things flit through their heads that they'd never act on, this is the only place they can even mention the thought had crossed their minds.
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>>28394902
Because I live in Glorious GB I'd just go ahead and raid an army surplus shop or some territorial barracks. Kit them out with what I can find, but keep the best for myself. Because what's the point in giving them the best equipment if they're not going to use it to it's best abilities.
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>>28403208
I know im the loner type unless i happen upon someone in need and i can provide.
My honest answer would be yes considering im a youngling snd tgey would be close to ny age so we would both learn more on the road as we continued on.
Inb4 underagedb8 im 19
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My daughter already knows how to shoot and hunt. I have been teaching her about survival, tracking, fire starting, et cetera.
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>>28400563
>A 223 is WAY too powerful
you've never actually used a gun chambered in .223, have you?
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>>28394902
Provided they're gun-illiterate, I'd give them a single shot hammered shotgun and tell them to follow my lead -- same as I'd do for anybody else.

If they're my own spawn, or gun-literate local younglings with nothing better than a .22, I'd give them a scoped AR.
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>>28403476
Got any pics with better quality?
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>>28400571
>have a small cache of food, water, and supplies that you need to survive.
>Some guy walks up to you and offers you 50 gold bars for what you have left
>hurr durr sure mister! that stuff is super valuable!
>you die in a few days because you can't eat or drink the gold
>the guy swings by and grabs the gold he traded to you and looks for another retard to swindle
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>>28403543
My phone does not like this low light.
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>>28400531
>trading a handful of $1200 1oz gold chips for a can of beans and the privilege of being a slave instead of being rendered into tallow
>the value of one oz of gold not being equal to a few years worth of shelf stable rice
top prep/10

>>28395069
>>28395036
gold is useful as a physically carryable asset with a high value to weight/volume ratio. If you are in an economic collapse situation where your solution is to get the fuck out of dodge to a stable market gold is a good choice. problem with that plan is that if the western world goes full bartertown, the rest of the planet will be even worse. if you live in the US "muh economic collapse! balkans tier shenanigans!" will never happen. If it did, the rest of the world would look like crossed and you'd have no safe place to flee to.
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>>28394902
Teach them just enough so they can shoot me in the back of the head. Don't wanna live in post civalization.
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>>28403761
>with a high value to weight/volume ratio
it won't be of high value. that's the entire fucking point.
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>>28403761
I'll laugh in your face as I refuse your gold in trade for the food I have.
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>>28403818
>in a situation where there are places to go that aren't shit
learn to read m8

If you lived in bosnia and your choice was sticking around with your life savings in a state controlled bank that fails every 25 years and the physical value of land/goods, hoarding gold so you can start a life in France/America/germany fleeing the next civil war/genocide makes sense. If you're a fag from kentucky with $500 to play with at the end of the month, blowing it on gold/silver/copper for "da end times!" is fucking retarded. If anything natural disastery happened in your locality, a quick car ride in any cardinal direction would give you access to your bank account and the ability to spend US dollars.

anyone who would accept gold would also accept US currency
because if people aren't in total waiting for the 90% die off mode then society still exists
the value of gold only exists because societies value it; no society, no value. no society due to a SHTF event=gold is worthless
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>>28403932
learn to realize that that's obviously what no one is talking about. It's been specifically stated that the situation being discussed is a complete apocalypse, entire world got fucked kind of deal.
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>>28403932
>the value of gold only exists because societies value it; no society, no value. no society due to a SHTF event=gold is worthless
oh. yeah, didn't read your whole post. we're in agreeance.
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>>28403913
>wut iz reading comprehension

if you lived in 1970's Rhodesia, having a briefcase of gold to facilitate your new life in the US when Mugabe's terrorists take over your country and start murdering white landowners is a solid strategy. Living in the place people flee wars/genocide means gold is just a clunky form of normal fiat currency. If people are selling $100 harbor freight generators for $1000 out of the bed of a pickup, then your gold is just as worthless as everyone else's dollars.

>>28403959
so something that will never happen
>inb4 muh nukes
>>28404028
it's good senpai

Total collapse short of aliens bio bombing the planet is a retarded thing to "prep" for. No rational situation will occur where society will completely collapse. No rational situation kills normal money (wherever you're evacuating to). No rational situation dictates money/gold is more important than defense, food, or potable water.

Fires, Hurricanes, Tornadoes, volcanic eruptions, and earthquakes are the only things it isn't retarded to "prep" for. "prep" meaning not being a waste of a human being and having 2weeks to several months of food per family member, stored water and water filtration, and the ability to leave the affected area when safe and defend what you already have.
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>>28403628
More pics from behind?
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i train her gag reflex with my cock. she can get calories and liquid from drinking my cum and piss.
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>>28404109
Cum is actually low-calorie.
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>>28395457
that would be me hoarding gold/platinum/jewels & burying in discreet stashes along with spare pistols.
>>28395507
MIT are working on timy bee-drones to pollinate crops seeing as bees keep doing that mass dying thing. Crickets are good though, fast breeders. quick growers, lean and full of vits: easy to farm for flour or a snack.
>>28395549
packets of sugar work in a ww1 kind of way.

get her trained to hot kinky jo level, pimp here out: she is now resource. food can (or some ammo) for a handjob, 2 for bj, 3 for pussy, 4 for anal.
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>>28395258
Not exactly.

In the olden days, yes, but today gold is important for electronics, as it's highly conductive (more so than copper), highly resistant to corrosion, and VERY malleable, it has a very real industrial value in this day and age.

The issue comes to trading, you would pretty much need to find someone in the business of making electronics to be able to barter it in a societal collapse, they would have use for it.
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>>28404092
It is dark now. The girls wanted to come back home. I took my step-daughter shooting with us too. She likes the 10/22 that I got her for Christmas.
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She could help me cook and give me handjobs and stuff. Also she can carry things.

I'd give her an M1 Carbine with a plastic stock. Lightweight, low recoil, easy to handle, yet decently powerful and fast.

>>28401253
UMP isn't a good subgun, the body is all plastic and most of it's weight is in the bolt, the gun shakes a LOT in any kind of rapid fire, I'd rather give her an MP5 and have her use it on semi, very light recoil and very accurate.
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>>28404671
Come on dude, no pics with ass?

How old are they?
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>>28403761
>trading a handful of $1200 1oz gold chips for a can of beans and the privilege of being a slave instead of being rendered into tallow

no one on earth uses gold to buy food numb nuts.
they use it to buy land, cars, guns. gold is real money and nothing else is. I already have all the canned goods I'll need.
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>>28404684
> UMP isn't a good subgun, the body is all plastic and most of it's weight is in the bolt, the gun shakes a LOT in any kind of rapid fire, I'd rather give her an MP5 and have her use it on semi, very light recoil and very accurate.

I doubt that in 9mm very much. All MP5 clones are semi unless class 3.
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>>28400248
STFU, if I want to play airshit Detroit style, I will.
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>>28394902
Welp, someone get's to be designated ammo bearer!

Maybe I'll give them a pistol.
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>>28405192
sure thing cletus, gg buying someone's working car in the apocalypse for an oz of gold
>inb4 bu..bu...bu...it was worth 5000 dollars b4 the world went to shit ;_;

people will kill for gold when SHTF, not trade for gold. If you wanted to buy ammo from me and my 5 friends and were offering a fistfull of hermetically sealed prepper silver ingots what besides previously abandoned morality would stop me from killing your unarmed ass for the rest of the bullion in your rucksack?
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>>28394977

EVEN BETTER
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>>28404870
No. Fallyn(Faal-lən) is 15 and Townsend(Tawnz-send) is 12.
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>>28405316

probably my army of mercenaries with a lot more guns then you have. I can tell you don't value your life.
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>>28405683
>hey scaver I'll give you 1/16th of a gold bar a year to protect me.
>got any food? any guns? any drugs? liq? anything? why shouldn't I slit your fat throat right fucking now. empty your pockets!
>hey now, in the old world that would be worth 1000 whole dollarydoos lets not do anything drastic....
yeah, you'd be eaten by cannibals or shot for being too fat to slave effectively and end up as a batch of candles from your rendered fat. Enjoy being part of the 90% die off in a true cataclysm m8.
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>>28405755

you still don't know what you are talking about probably because you are 16. nobody pays merc with gold. write back when your balls drop.
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>>28405800
>fuk u m8 ;_; muh gold isn't worthless
>I'll kill you with my mercs... which I don't pay with my accumulated gold
>because I pay them with the food, water, alcohol, cocaine, meth, etc... that I don't have
>..but I can buy it with gold!!!
good luck with that. At least you'll starve to death before you become a problem people worthy to survive.
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>>28405755

looks like gold is a bit above your paygrade
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>>28405855

if you think you buy food with gold you need to gtfo.
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>>28394916

Welp...
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>>28405888
You don't do anything with gold, because outside of electronic manufacturing, it doesn't have intrinsic value.

Put the money into food, ammunition, stockpiling clean water, literally anything would hold its value better in a disaster than gold, including cash.

Obviously, the first thing that an adult does to prepare for SHTF is have emergency funds and be able to travel.
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>>28405931
Precious metals are a hedge. If you have money, and want to make certain you have some left if the financial system melts down, they serve a genuine function. I don't think anyone contemplates haggling with the Hindu behind the counter at a gas station when the ATM system is down over the numismatic value of silver bullion. Not anyone who has any sense.
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>>28405888
so you yourself admit you can't pay for protection or sustenance in "shtf" with gold

then why carry one of the heaviest elements for supposed value that you can't turn into real post apocalypse goods?

right now instead of purchasing 1 oz of gold you could purchase 2600lbs of rice from walmart.

>>28405968
>not anyone who has any sense
>gold hoarders who believe television commercials on evelangical TV stations saying you need gold for the end times
choose 1

anyone "smart" realizes that a true apocalipse in the US of A means the rest of the world is so septuple fucked you might as well as kill yourself. anything normal and it's sit tight until those fema stormtroopers roll through to give you a free trailer and government cheese or to gtfo out of dodge pre disaster and watch your house get btfo from a hotel TV 3 states away.
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>>28405968
Precious metals are a meme for retards who don't understand economics.

Not only do they not appreciate in value the way property or stocks do, they're so unstable that you could lose 50% of your value in a matter of months.

>if the financial system melts down

Nigger, that shit survived two world wars, the Great Depression and the great recession.

If something happens that renders the dollar worthless, you don't want to be on the same continent as it.

Failing that, ammo, food, liquor, fuel.

Literally anything that has intrinsic value under the circumstances. It's a sad state of affairs when the ammo hoarders make more sense than you.
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>>28398640
Looks like you got most of your Supreme Gentleman quals done. You ready to do the practical factors?
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>>28406098
No, he thinks if we were reduced to a prehistory tier society that it'd be like crossed. because he's a retarded n33t.

IRL all this "feminism" shit would end right quick once criminal elements were attempting to act like he was suggesting. "society" would quickly rally around killing those motherfuckers, then go on to declare certain whimmen theirs as per political marriages like tribal law systems from literally every culture on the planet described doing.
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>>28406143

no denying that.
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>>28405214
And where would you get an MP-5 post-SHTF bt a police armory?
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>>28405888
I don't get it. what the fuck do you do with the gold then if you don't buy the things you need to survive?
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>>28395087
>why would everyone have a few kids?
continuation of the human race
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>>28406521
Love those fucking gold hoarding preppers.
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>>28406834
Deaths are higher than deaths in the U.S. which is fucking scary and one of the reasons why the U.S. is trying to allow Mexicans amnesty, which is horseshit. Too many mentally unbalanced women being whores and too many men being little faggots.

We need the nuclear family to come back. It promotes family structure, security, and is a benefit to society. Too much degenerate shit going on.
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>>28407006
>Deaths are higher than deaths in the U.S.

???
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>>28395100
careful there, your autism is showing
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>>28400462
>>28402634
or you could come with me in the woods, we eat and grow radishes and restart civilization together. its a farmers life for me.
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>>28407006
this man gets it, theres no point in any of it if we can't continue our lineage.
and "deaths are higher than births"
slightly related pic of prime breeding material.
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>>28406834
I could careless about continuing
the human race. Plenty of retards already taking care of that. I just want some little cutie pie like Ellie to satisfy my needs in this short lifetime.
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>>28407006
What is the demographic-economic paradox, Alex.
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>>28394902
I would totally fuck Ellie's brains out.
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>>28408128
see>>28395424
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>>28396061
best fuckign game ever.
naughtydog is king
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>>28404870
You do realize you are asking for ass pics of a dudes daughter? Right?
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>>28411060
he was dumb enough to post pictures of his daughter on 4chan. I'm surprised she hasn't gotten a cum tribute already.
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>>28405214
>I doubt that in 9mm very much.
No, really. The bolt is heavier than the body of the gun itself, when it cycles, that's the majority of it's weight shifting in your hands.
This is true for both chamberings, the weight of the 9mm and .45 bolts are really not too different.

>All MP5 clones are semi
So are all UMPs in the US.

>unless class 3
There is no "class 3"
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