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>CAS literally means close (hugging the ground) air support instead of close meaning the frontline
>F4 Phantom was bad until it got a machine gun
>Dogfighting is relevant
>VP9 is good
>Glocks are bad
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there exist "Some good black people"
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>>28345970

there exist "good people"

abandon all hope
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>>28345970

There are about as many level headed pro 2A black people as there are level headed pro 2A fat lesbian women
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>the F-35 is bad
>9mm isn't objectively the best round for service handguns
>the M14 is good
>the M1 Garand is good
>the 1911 isn't inferior to a Hi Point, much less a modern handgun
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>all cops will goose-step their way into your house when "the happening happens" to steal your firearms
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>>28345948
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>just because something is cheap and extremely popular on /k/, doesn't mean it's good

This applies to an alarming amount of guns by the way
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>>28346053
Okie Doke Artichokie
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>>28346075

found the person butthurt about nuggets
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>>28346053
Okie Doke Artichokie
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>>28345948
>mosin is the best bolt action when the lee and mauser actions are superior

>all socialists and commies are rabid gun grabbers (most are tho)

>40 cal is a good compromise round

>CZ pistols are good (pre-bs notwithstanding)

>block brand blocks have good ergonomics

>USP's have good ergonomics

>the military and police will take your funs on SHTF and not desert/join the resistance

>that there are good politicians
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if you dont have enough money at the time and instead of saving up for what you wanted you go and buy a PTR
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>simply wearing a piece of camo clothing will immediately get you sniped in "the happening"
>simply dressing like a normie will make you immune to being robbed and killed in "the happening"
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>>28346001
> 9mm best for service handguns
Enjoy your low impact, low penetration rounds mate
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>>28346111
What's wrong with CZ? As far as I know, they're in the same league as Glock, Beretta, 4th gen smiths, etc

Glocks ARE ergonomic. Not the most so, but they are fine.
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>>28346053

okie dokie artichokie
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>>28346086

holy shit
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>>28345979
Ye who enter here?
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>>28345948
Dogfighting is relevant. Just not to you.
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>>28346086
That seems excessive.
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>>28346122
>"the happening" will happen
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Okie doke artichokie
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>>28346256

>your house will get robbed
>you actually need guns
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>>28346164
CZ quality control for new stuff hasn't been good, although they have slipped as far as Waffen Werks or Arsenal's latest issues

The CZ82/3s and old Cz75s are great tho.

gen 3 and 4 glock grip textures irritate the shit out of me, gen 1s and 2s that are more plain jane are fine.
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>>28346114
but senpai...what if i want a PTR?
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>CAS literally means close (hugging the ground) air support instead of close meaning the frontline

Who the fuck thinks that?
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>>28346296
Ah, yeah I honestly wouldn't recommend things like the p-07 to anyone.

Their all-steel handguns are still some of the best at that price point, though.

Cz 82's and 83's are excellent. Not exactly practical, but you won't find better machining and fit/finish(83 only) on a $300 handgun.
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>>28346324
A-10 fanboys who think that aircraft is the best for CAS
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>>28346334
>implying it's not
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>>28346053
I hate these pictures, but this is the best one I've ever seen.
Okie Doke Artichokie
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>>28346388
A-10 is only used for COIN nowadays
Not CAS
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>>28346111
>hurr durr .40 Short 'n' Weak
This meme is fucking overdone. But you know what? You just gave me something to contribute with.

>he thinks that .40S&W isn't a legitimate round because it doesn't play into his side of the NINE VERSUS FORTY-FIVE caliber flame wars
>he thinks that there is ONE AND ONLY ONE pistol caliber worth carrying
>he doesn't diversify his calibers
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>>28346111
>>28346296

What's wrong with CZ? I've had a Stainless 75B for years with thousands of rounds and no malfunctions.

The thing is the most solid handgun I've ever owned.
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>>28345979
Fuck your nihilism, atheist scum!
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>>28346479
as far as diversifying carry calibers, id rather a fawty or fawty fhive full size for winter carry and a compact 9 or 380 for summer carry
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>>28346485
new 75s have been having problems

the old 75bs are fine though, I just like pre-bs more.
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>>28346479

>"diversifying" your safe with redundant calibers when you can just train with, use, and stockpile one
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>>28346485
Probably because, like mine and the other CZ fans' guns, it's because you've had it for several years so it was made before the Czech Toolmarkocaust. Even with toolmarks I don't think the actual function is compromised at all though.
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>>28346507

What kind of problems?
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>>28345948
Shoot a VP 9 m8, it gave me an orgasm
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>>28346523
poor finish and no internal finishing on the metal frames

largely coincided with the panic buying of 2012-onwards due to corner cutting to meet increased demand.
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>Common /k/ misconceptions

>>28346114
>Gloss paint is not only ideal for camouflage, it is also historically correct.
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>>28346053
So who is this guy?
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>>28346694
best youtuber around, senpai.
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>>28346053
Okie Dokie, Artichokie
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>>28346256
>"the happening" is even a legitimate concept

Every disaster that could happen where I live would play out totally differently.

A Helens style Volcanic Eruption would probably have minimal bullshit.

"da big wun" Cascadia fault earthquake would cause the rest of the US to send aid, so it wouldn't be a zomgpocalypse and likely I could just bug in at my house and continue to do my work from home, if I had to evacuate I honestly am not sure whether I would want to look tacticool or muhgreyman, but I'd probably go with something in-between and dress like I normally dress. The important thing is having a concealed weapon.

In a sniper insurgency you'd want to blend in.

In a truly fucked up global economic crash + disasters or full on nuclear war where everything is fucked and people in town are resorting to cannibalism than who cares what you look like, the point there is to stay in a group with rifles, depending on where you end up, camo might help.
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>>28346694

his name is literally in the meme
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>>28346053
Okie dokie, artichokie
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>>28346880
So his name is long phuck?
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>guns don't kill people
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>>28346866
Do people actually think they can grey man with a rifle and PC?

Do people actually think that once battle is joined, they can grey man?

I mean, I get the idea of a "low pro" battle belt under a big bulky coat and an SBR hidden in a backpack, but anything more conspicuous and you may as well be dressed like GI Joe.

I might get some "muh low pro" gear eventually, but I'm less concerned about starting an infantry assault at a moment's notice and more concerned about the extreme cases, a concealed handgun, or full on combat.

Do people think the habbening is like a gangster/bank robbery movie?
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>>28346053
Okie Doke Artichokie
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>>28346694

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq0ztaCwb-A
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>>28346245
it's a joke
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>>28346934
But low profile isn't about "starting infantry assaults" ya fukken dingus. It's about blending with the normal local populace while still maintaining enough knowledge and gear to be ready to fight whatever is making you "go low profile" whether that be a tyrannical government, or invaders, or what-have-you. You seem to be upset at the gear queers. The gear queers who will have the plate carriers and radios that you won't.
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>liberals are communist
>socialists are anti gun
>Capitalism allows the workers to get the fruit of their labor
>The rich shouldnt be executed
>Bernie Sanders is a socialist
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>>28346694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOS065ZJwT4
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>>28346694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5CBuyx1whw
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>>28346521
Are all new cz models fucked up nowadays?
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>thinks any round other than .357mag has the highest confirmed ratio of one-shot stops
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>>28346053
Okie Doke Artichokie
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>>28347592
Nah, my beef is just with the grey man gear queers.

There is very little of consequence that you could conceal on your person all the time.

Shouldn't you just keep your shit in a duffel bag and have an infil plan that takes into account a minute to toss all your gear on?

I could understand having an SBR in a bag and a couple rifle mags/other shit in IWB belt pouches but the more GQ the low pro shit gets the less sense it makes to me.
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>>28346001
>>the M1 Garand is good
For its time and how it was fielded, it was excellent.
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>>28346329
>Ah, yeah I honestly wouldn't recommend things like the p-07 to anyone.
Nigger what are you smoking? The P-07 eats glocks for breakfast. and for less money.
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>>28347639
>liberals are communist
Depends on whether you are talking big "L" Liberalism liberals or little "l" liberals. Liberal can either mean the french concept Liberalism, which is an individualistic political philosophy, or it can mean the opposite of conservative, which in the case of the authoritarian progressive left, means that a "liberal" can very well be grounded in marxist concepts, though they tend to abandon class warfare for identity politics, but the concept is basically the same.

They treat women or blacks as classes (while ignoring real class warfare because they are all rich white women).

>socialists are anti gun
They aren't, but first world social democrats tend to be.

>Capitalism allows the workers to get the fruit of their labor
It does currently, in the future there won't be any labor left, so only educated people will be able to make money.

>The rich shouldnt be executed
Literally what is wrong with being rich?

>Bernie Sanders is a socialist
You're right, Bernie is a hard line social democrat, but not an old school socialist.
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>A-10 good for close air support.
>A flying m134 on steroids is good for support ground forces advancing on to target.
>What about its wing armaments?
>What the same fucking armaments that we can literally mount to fucking everything with wings?
>B-But Vietnam we had Cobras with rockets pods...
>Fix airwing can make turns and fly low like an rotary aircraft.
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>>28347639
When you say bullshit like that, what income bracket do you consider rich?

Like just literally the kind of guy that can't possibly buy enough antiques and fancy cars and jets to spend all his money because he is making millions of dollars a second?

Or is it some bullshit anti bourgeoisie shit?

I'm not sure which sentiment is worse.

Someone rich enough to be making millions a day or whatever is more than just a man, killing them doesn't eliminate their wealth, and eliminating their wealth doesn't necessitate killing them. Wanting to kill them is a stupid childish point of view.

On the other hand, being anti-bourgeoisie means that you literally hate people for having fancier plates than you and being able to afford a 25k car.
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>>28347733
>Workers get the fruit of their labor
No comrade, no they dont. The wirkers simply gain a meager wage while their bosses drown in frivolities gained by someone elses labor. One of the main issue with rich people is that mkst own businesses and therefore directly oppress the proletariat and the ones that are rich by other means still maintain a system of slavery and usually vote and pay off people to profit themselves.
>>28347798
I was focusing more on people that own the means of production vs people that are lower on the latter but make more money. Regardless if the individual isnt willing to give up private property and try to support the greater bourgeoisie they should be considered equally as bad
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>>28346901
pretty sure that's the name of the character, okie dokie, artichokie?
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>>28346126
9mm has the same lethality rate as .45 and .380.
When it comes to armor, none of the above have any advantage over the other?
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>>28346053
okely dokely artichokely
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>>28347490

>LET GO MY EGG ROLL
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>>28346126

>low penetration

This is bait right?
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>>28347639

You can tell is Christmas break when you read edgelord garbage like this on /k/
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>jet fuel can melt steel beams
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>everything needs to be a "general thread"
>we need more general threads
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>>28347671
You should know by now to automatically discount any and all information posted by tripfags as utterly false, inflammatory, self-serving, disdainful and trite.

There are no exceptions.
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>>28347872
This is how I know you're a kid.

Do you realize how many people do white collar work or service work these days in the US? By your logic we should actually just kill everyone in the US, because the US is a rich country and the actual labor is done in other countries.

Talking about everything in terms of production shows that you're stuck in a 19th century point of view where computers don't exist, fear not, some day soon there will be no labor, so you'll be proven wrong and won't have to rant online anymore.

Also
>Scandinavian/UK style social democracy is literally as moneygrubbing and evil as anarcho-capitolism.
Whatever you say kid.
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>>28345948
>That image
>someone actually saved my shitty as fuck OC from a few months ago
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>>28346053
Okie dokie artichoke
>>28346694
The most fucking operator Asian you will ever see.
>>28347645
>"You no speak English, you get the hell out of here. You go back home. You go back to China where you come from."
Pic related.
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>>28346001
> The F-35 is bad

Stop with this meme already
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>>28348470
No offense but are you fucking retarded?
There are different kinds of labor comrade. Productive and unproductive. The majority of jobs in this country are unproductive but many serve some kind of purpose. Either way those people deserve liberation as well. The outsourcing of labor to other countries in order to exploit people for cheaper is terrible and will also die along with capitalism.
Not to mention, scandinavian social democracy and anarcho capitalism both suck ass, the difference is the perception of exploitation. In america the exploitation is apparent but defended. In scandinavia it is hidden. Exploitation none the less
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>>28345970
Only 0.009% of black people murder in the usa.
Sorry if I'm not utilizing statistics to be more scary as typically done to brainwash people, but you must literally be fucking stupid to even ironically claim that a majority of black people are not good people.
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>>28348713
Except that eventually there won't be
"labor" there will only be management, design, and development.

Read up on how amazon warehouses work sometime, it's neat, eventually there won't be any humans.

Or do you consider the work I do as a Software Engineer making six figures to be proletariat labor?

I don't boss anyone around and my work serves a purpose, how do you explain me? What category am I in?
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>>28348770
except 1/3rd of them end up in prison
Which works out to a majority of them being criminals & all of them being niggers.
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>>28348821
>1/3rd in prison
>somehow this means that all of them are part of the urban gang/drug culture that causes this

0/10
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>>28346053
Okie Dokie artichokie
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>>28348800
As far as no labor, I fully understand how automation works except I dont believe management jobs are what is going to be left. I think with full automation there should be equal distribution of commodities and all work will be leisure. Capitalism cant survive once everything is automated, many in your same field would agree.
As far as your place in society, if you work and dont boss anyone and are willing to give up private property Id consider you a proletarian. Its really willingness to support or at least allow the revolution that makes someone ok.
How soon would you say labor will become obsolete? Im interested to hear what someone in the field thinks
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>>28348770
It's like you think that people have to murder someone to be "bad".
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>>28349352
>willing to give up private property

Why would I give up something I earned?
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>>28346053
Okie Dokie Artichokie
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>>28349352
Yeah I'm not saying that it stays capitalist, just that no "hard labor" is necessary.

It depends.

It's gonna be gradual, first there will be humanless fast food counters, then factories. While this is happening, our reliance on the remaining humans will decrease, technology will have better automated QC and support, we will rely on synthetic intelligence more to advise and inform us, even drive our cars and busses.

Last of all will be self driving trains, because of the fucking labor unions.
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>>28349964
Private property pertains mostly to large areas of land that can be used.
Not to mention in general, "earning" land is a philosophical idea. Someone else may work harder than you to get to where you are, so wouldnt that mean they deserve it over you? Or is it that whoever gets it first owns it? Regardless whatever you think you "earned", private property is a terrible construct that ignores the actual structure of life and civilization its self along with directly causing oppresion. Id tell you to read theory but most of you flat out wont. But I guess if youre born rich you "deserve" to be ignorant or if you worked out of poverty you "deserve" to become the oppresor.
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>>28346608
the real question is are rhodie scar17s going to be a thing
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>>28346001
>1911 inferior to a hi point
what the fuck dude, have you shot either? The hi point doesn't have a single advantage besides price.
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>>28345948
How has this not been posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP4k4tOsZD8
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>>28351004
>lighter
>vastly more reliable
>cheaper
>great warranty

Hi Point .45 cucks the 1911 so hard it's not even funny.
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>>28346053
Okie doke, artichokie.
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>>28353284
How to spot someone with food stamps.
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>>28346001
the M1 is still an excellent rifle firing a widely available cartridge, is very reliable and very accurate.

Literally the only downside is the fact that it's a semi auto rifle in a surplus configuration with an 8 round capacity. Drop the action into a modern stock that accepts larger mags and work the action to accept external magazines and it is still a workable gun for combat.
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>>28353284
>vastly more reliable

Colion Nior did a video shooting the hi-point. He had to clear several FTE's and stoppages during the video.

I'm sure a 1911 wouldn't need you to clear stoppages unless you clogged the action with fucking mud you nigger.
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>>28354031
m8 you just described the M14
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>>28354167
Yup, I know. M1 is a great design, it's only drawbacks are capacity and ergonomics regarding modern warfare.

That being said though it's clearly the greatest milsurp gun around.
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>>28345948
>"the happening" will happen
>and it happens without a civil war

We'll call this war the Hillary Heresy
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>>28346053
Okie Doke Artichoke
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>>28346089
found the poorfag.
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>>28346075
literally all I think of when I see these dumb kids buying mak's and tok's en masse.


There's a reason we stopped using them. Stop fucking shilling them on here just because it's all you can afford.
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