Opinions on the USP?
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In the market for a new sidearm. Anyone here familiar with the USP? And what do you think of it? Thanks.
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>>28342850
it will probably outlive you and your great great grandchildren
>>28342850
Built like a tank, I'm not joking. Also this
>>28342965
Not OP, but I'm probably buying one ASAP. Should I get .45 or 9?
I wanted a full size 9 but if I get it in .45 that's cool too
>>28344467
if you get a usp always get the .45 getting a 9mm usp is like getting a scar in 5.56 or a 1911 in 22lr
>>28342850
USP is a dated design. More modern HK pistols have a richer feature set.
That said I plan on getting a Mk23, and splinter cell bores me. The internals on that pistol are more like small rifle parts than pistol parts.
>>28344514
nope.
I like the aesthetic but never much liked them shooting.
I have a mark23 that I like though so if get the usp in .45. Seems like overkill in 9milli
I can't decide between this and the p2000, the p2k is so much cheaper... (I'm looking at uspc)
Sign P220 is fine too.
>>28344655
prove it
>>28344678
You'd really have to fingerfuck both of them to make an informed decision. Aggressive vs less aggressive but with interchangeable backstrap, you know? Other than feel, the main difference is a slightly improved accessory rail on the P2000.
And for fun factor, the P2000 is used in CS:GO, while the USP-C is used by Jack Bauer and CIA in TDKR.
>>28344802
USP is also in CS:GO now.
>>28342850
Over-priced for what it is. A lot of other systems are better than it currently. Sig 226 with a SRT is better in 9 mm. Finger fuck one and you'll see that they're not that amazing for what they're charging.
Also, I know you nigs like it because SOLID SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE had one, but seriously can we let the HK thing die already?
Also, the VP9 is shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOu5ZGfgtVk
>>28344994
'Nigs' wouldn't be able to afford it let alone identify it. I think you mean weebs
>VP9
Oh the most casual entry on the H&K product line? Of course it is. Go hammer-fired or go home
>>28345159
Right, striker-just sucks... lmfao Just stop.
> Oh the most casual entry on the H&K product line? Of course it is.
And that makes it acceptable, why? So, I guess if it's not over 800 USD HK don't give a shit if it works. Again, this HK craze on /k/ needs to die.
>>28345219
There is no "HK craze". There's just a number of people who like HK just like there's a number or people who like Beretta or SW or any other manufacturer. You're just being a contrarian faggot.
As for the MAC test, that's literally one fucking video and it is the cheapest HK product. There's other videos where the vp9 functions after being submerged in muddy/sandy water. Again, no fucks given, the vp9 is awesome to shoot.
And for the record, Snake uses the Mark23
>>28345219
Got a new G26 for 500. Got a new P30SK for ~50 bucks more. You'll never get your money's worth buying at MSRP bud, and H&K's rep extends much further than /k/
The hammer-fired comment was referring to appropriate choices from HK specifically. In the grand scheme of things hammer vs striker is inconsequential
>>28345338
Nigger, what makes it acceptable that "cheap" can excuse it for not functioning? I take it you own a VP9.
>>28345342
Glad you could clarify. You sound less retarded.
>>28345429
Right because that was the only thing I said.
For every fanclub on /k/ there's a retarded anti-fanclub that makes it's life mission to go on every relevant thread and shitpost.
If you want a 9mm, get a P30 in the flavor of your choice. The USP is really, REALLY meant for .45. They are a fantastic handgun and will suffer through pretty much anything you can do to it. You really can't go wrong with a USP .45. The only real downsides are magazines can be a tad pricey and the proprietary rail.
That said, another great full sized .45 is the FNX Tactical. This will, however, set you back a bit more than the USP.
The only reason why I would like a usp is because of its presence in tv shows, games and movies.
Every bad guy or generic soldier or cop uses a beretta, glock, etc. The operators use a usp or mk23.
Can someone explain why hk doesn't just update product lines instead of creating whole new pistol series? Look at glock and their generations. The usp and usp compact could have gone through generational updates to include larger mag release and better ergonomics as seen in the p30. They could have introduced a uspsk so there would have been a full size, compact and sub compact handgun.
>>28344467
Bro you've posted this same fucking thread for at least 3 days in a row
>>28344994
Says the no guns who can't afford on his ebt benifits
>>28342850
Truthfully it's a marvel of engineering just like any audi or Benz you pay to play. So worth it when running hard on range or cleaning after. Can truly appreciate this weapons system for what it is. Only problem you'll want more&start browsing more intelligent forums that filter the kiddos
>or
Buy glawk ,40 M&p 9 ,some 1911 clone and bitching on /k/ anytime someone likes what you dont
>>28344726
9mm USP predates clownpatronen USP.
>>28344514
Usp 45 why?
>HK45
>>28345832
>tfw have an H&K and a Glock.
I like both... The G27 is my daily carry though.
The only handgun you'll need.
>>28344994
>Also, I know you nigs like it because SOLID SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE had one, but seriously can we let the HK thing die already?
leave it to noguns over here that thinks the mk23 and usp are the same guns
Get it in .40 that's what it was designed around. Plus they are more common in .40 and cheaper.
I've owned one in .45 and I currently own one in 9mm. Both full size.
I sold the .45 mostly because I shoot my 1911's more and I really like shooting 9mm in general. The 9mm full size with the match trigger kit (I left the original blue hammer spring in though) is a dream to shoot. I also own a 226 in 9mm and while it is a nice gun, the USP is better all around (except maybe ergonomics, but I prefer the USP because I have big hands). Also the sig is more expensive.
>>28346484
Have a 26 for carry. Nothing wrong with it brah
>>28346785
I guess its worth mentioning that my Sig has the short reset trigger installed, and it does have a better double action than the HK, the single action is about the same, the Sig has a shorter reset as well. Neither has a trigger that is even close to a good 1911 or single action Sig, obviously...
Take down for both is pretty much the same, the biggest problem I have with the HK is removing the slide stop, the biggest problem I have with sig is the uncaptured recoil spring. The finish on the HK is stronger for certain, but it doesn't look as nice as the Sig.
>>28342850
Get it in .40, if you want a .45 get a MK23.
My favorite pistol. I prefer them in .45, but I love most other pistols in 9mm. It just fits me naturally and points well, as well as being extremely accurate.
>>28346853
What
>slide stop
Match trigger can be ordered from h&k or hkparts you install. It's stiff but sa is pure sex
>>28347062
Having to remove a part like the slide stop for a field strip isn't ideal, I don't see why you consider that shitposting...
Also, I sometimes have trouble getting it out if I recently cut my fingernails.
HK parts has the match triggers for like $35 and they are very easy to install.
>>28346853
I hate the paddle mag release.
>>28347137
I love the paddle mag release.
>>28347137
Neat.
>>28344514
this, it was designed around .45 ACP
>>28347517
You mean .40 S&W.
The 9mm USP actually predates the .45ACP USP.
>>28342850
The Glock21SF is my mainstay gun in terms of flexibility, aftermarket parts and reliability. The USP45 I just bought is suddenly a close second, however.
>>28345704
I'm not OP you stupid fuck
>>28346512
To be fair, he actually did use it in MGS 2 in the tanker chapter at the very least.
I'm about to get my first gun, mostly for home self-defense/CCW in a car or under a heavy jacket, and really want a full-size 45. The USP seems like the perfect choice for me, and after holding a model that was 8+1 I am in love.
My only question is, on the website it says that they have 12 round mags, not 8. Is the handle thicker or bigger to compensate for that? The one I held was literally perfect for my handsize.
>>28349691
No, the 8 round mags have a block built in. The gun is the exact same.
>>28349722
Thanks. Must be a cali thing, I'll look into getting some ten round mags. The paddle release is a bit funky, do you get used to it? And what's a good flashlight to go on the bottom?
>>28342850
I like mine, the slide is smooth, and its fairly accurate. I haven't had any malfunctions yet, but I don't get to shoot it that often. It is good to get a rail adapter though.
So ive decided my next pistol is going to be a fnx 45 tactical or a mk23 (not usp. Mk23) which should I choose and why?
>>28349886
>not usp. Mk23
what?
>>28345545
the p30 with a good trigger job is mucho comfy :3
usp is a good gun if you want a hi cap .45, but the gun is fuggin huge, not slim like a 1911
>>28342850
It's my ccw, I love it
>>28342850
It's a big pistol
>>28346966
Josh?
>>28342850
this >>28350105
Not really suitable for a CCW, but maybe a USP compact might fit that bill.
>>28349956
Mk23 is the precursor to the usp. I just like the older, less refined design better
>>28349751
It took me a while to get used to the paddle release, but when you do its so nice. I use my trigger finger to depress it.
For a flashlight I like the Surefire X300 (the ultra is nice too, but perhaps too high power for inside, especially if you have stainless steel appliances). You will need a rail adaptor, surefire makes one for $35, and GG&G also makes one for a bit more. The streamlights are ok too, and they also make mounts one specifically for the USP, no need for a rail adaptor.
>>28350724
I know what the MK.23 is and I know what the USP is but you said USP MK.23, which is what I didn't understand.
>>28350774
So, whats your opinion semantics aside?
Not OP, but I got this one used today for $836. It's in good shape. How'd I do?
>>28350857
Couldn't say much for the MK.23. Never even seen one in person. The USP, I've finger fucked at my LGS. Operation was smooth and the gun fit well in my hand and that's about it.
Neither would make good CCW's but a USP compact might fit the bill as I said here >>28350191
Robust pistol that has both the durability and ergonomics of an actual tank. Mediocre trigger. Paid 550 for a USP9 in good condition. Wasn't disappointed. Worth it at that price as long as you're realistic about the design, ergos and trigger.
>>28350863
Don't know how much they typically go for used, but I saw a couple in great shape that were only about 600-650ish bucks granted the shop was due to close at the end of the year and they were trying to close out their inventory.
>>28346895
>>28350724
I fucking adore the MK23 and often have it either nearby or on my person, but lets be honest here, it's a bit of a niche gun even if you're okay with the price. Durable and accurate as fuck, but not really quite as appropriate for most people as a sidearm or civilian carry gun, which handguns are usually supposed to be. It kind of shines more during the small amount of times as an "offensive weapon system" where you have a rifle but would rather use the handgun for whatever reason, be it suppressed noise, shooting in an unusual position that would make a handgun more ideal, et cetera.
For typical purposes a USP in .45 ACP would probably be more suitable, though if you're an unusually tall and muscular person it might make the disadvantages of the MK23 less impactful.
>>28350105
>>28350898
Id be more hapt to put either on a plate carrier and keep it in my business vehicle next to a rifle
>>28350981
Oh yeah no doubt, I would too if I owned either.
>>28350924
Damn
>>28350926
>if you're an unusually tall and muscular person
You mean like a big guy?
>>28351028
Not saying that $836 is bad. I mean, you definitely got it for less than new.
>>28347517
No faget it was designed around .40
>>28351005
So which would anon prefer for tactically operating with operational tactics?
>>28352602
I'd probably go with a USP over a MK23. For an idea on size the USP is about the size of a Glock 17 while a MK.23 is near the size of a Deagle.
>>28350145
Yes
>>28342850
>buying a pistol where you have to buy a special 1913 adapter for your flashlight because the fucking gun has some bullshit proprietary mount instead
>>28353637
My only issue with it, but the adapter was only 45 dollars, but I agree, it would look prettier if could just use normal accessories without an adapter.
>>28353637
>Not just buying this.
Laser and flashlight all in one plus you don't need no silly adapter.
Thanks all, ive collected a shit ton of data, and i am solidly between the HK45 or the USP. Either way i feel pretty damn good. Another thing is somewhere i read that you can actually buy a conversion kit for the inner barrel to convert between round sizes. Thanks again all!
>>28353637
You have a point...
Get it OP
B-b-b-but you need an adaptor!
>>28346895
I pick a .40 compact up tomorrow. It was a Christmas present
>>28354186
>i am solidly between the HK45 or the USP
Get the HK45 if you have girly hands that need your weapon to be comfortable as possible. Get a USP if you are a man that wants something that is built like a tank and will keep on chugging after you die of old age.
>>28350863
Shit dude I got one brand new for 900. Same shop was selling used for 600 but I can't speak on the condition
>>28353637
>>28353934
>>28354079
>>28354194
You do understand that the USP and MK23 came out way before 1913 was any where close to being standard? Shit for the most part it was unheard of when the two pistols came out.
>>28349041
A USP?
He only ever used the Mk 23 to my knowledge.
>>28350863
Prices range from 500-1000+, you did good.
>>28350923
Trigger isn't bad at all, breaks nice and crisp and reset is good too.
>>28351092
I got my compact new with 3 mags and night sights for 899, definitely could have done better but I like to support my LGS no matter the price difference.
>>28353637
The adapter is cheap as fuck and the gun was designed before the pic rail was created, go away troll.
>>28354186
Get the USP if its comfy, HK45 is nice but I like the USP series more, imo its the best polymer handgun made.
>>28345338
He also used the USP in MGS2.
>>28347517
so fucking wrong. it's .40 handgun
>>28344514
no, not at fucking all.
>>28345219
you mean like the glock craze? a pistol that's been left in the dust by its competitors but still costs $550?
>>28345545
bro, usp was designed for .40
it does not matte if usp was a 45 in your favorite videogame, it's perfectly fine in any caliber.
usp was a 9mm in half life and tomb raider
>>28355420
I will never understand peoples love for the glock, even hickok45 is obsessed with them.
>>28355412
It was probably originally a 45 acp as it was submitted to the OHWS as a prototype. When it hit the market it was 40,9,45 in that order I believe about a year apart.
>>28345832
>a marvel of engineering
>running hard on range
>this weapons system
>more intelligent forums that filter the kiddos
>>28355430
>>28355420
Because eligent simplicity and they work! Ya don't fix what ain't broken.
>>28342850
USP is German craftsmanship at its finest. The quality and hard work that went into making them is outstanding that I still can't believe how well they are made.
>>28344678
I have a P2K and like it. It is a refined version of the USP compact that has extra slide mass shaved off, modifiable grip, and better controls...or at least controls are ambi.
>>28355310
Snake uses the USP in 9mm throughout MGS2. He gave his Mk 23 to Raiden in the second chapter.
Used it a bit, insta-boner using it ( If you don't mind the no more fonctuinal decocking lever and weak trigger spring, but prob 10/15 years old gun).
Want one .
800/1400 euros.
Such is live in Frenchistan.
Holy shit there's a huge amount of responses on the usp but I never see this much on the p2000 or p30 handguns.
With the tendency to overengineer do you guys think the usp would outlast the p30 or p2000? I think I read about some guy reading 90k rounds on a p30.
>>28342850
i have a cousin that owns one, and several other handguns because he collects pistols, the usp out of all them has been predetermined to end up as the heirloom gun.
>>28355337
Everything this man said is correct.
>>28344880
R8 is better
>>28342850
I love mine.
>>28356829
I have about eighty rounds through my Tactical at this point. At this rate it will last well into the next millennium.
>>28357247
I shoot my standard USP somewhat regularly. When I eventually buy an Osprey I'll definitely use the Tactical a lot more.
>>28342850
>Jew chip under backplate
Not even once
>>28357247
You have good taste in firearm and pokemon.
>>28357750
>Jew chip
wait what
>>28357820
I think he is confusing HK with Chiappa. Chiappa puts RFID chips in their guns. Not that they really matter though. According to Cleetus and Bubba at the gun shop, them fancy chips let Obama listen in on you and fill your mind with Socialism.
>>28348613
a 40 of OE. My nigga.
