I'm going with Hitler invading Russia.
Germany was doing pretty well against the Allied powers up till they had to divert troops and materials to fight on the Eastern Front.
It's likely they would have been able to hold on to Europe even in the face of the Allied Invasions.
I think that did more to hasten the end of WW2 than anything else.
Italy failed to invade Greece, which required German intervention. This delayed Barbarosa several months, and meant winter set in before campaign goals were completed.
Let's reiterate the fuckup here.
Italy, failed to invade fucking Greece.
>>28326873
I read a story about how Rommel tried to lead only Italian troops in a battle in North Africa since his German troops failed, thinking the Italians would fare better under direct German command.
They lost. Apparently the Italians just suck at fighting overall.
I just can't remember the name of the battle. It was before Tobruk, IIRC.
Russians.
>>28326873
>>28326850
If Hitler didn't attack the USSR the USSR would have launched an attack on Germany anyways.
There was a large troop buildup on the border, and the USSR's belligerent attitude towards finland and poland were pretty good indicators that the dirty slavic horde thirsted for blood.
Hitler killed one out of four Russians..
It was a mistake, but not by much.
>>28326935
This. Germany's loss of World War Two started with invading Poland, and continued through several gross errors that hastened it's demise.
Even fought perfectly, Hitler would have lost WWII.
>>28326873
Even if Germany got to muh precious oil fields on schedule, would they have stood a chance against russia? The commies had so many bodies to throw away it hardly seems likely that Germany could overcome and win.
>>28326873
Point of order: they *did* invade Greece.
They just got their asses handed to them.
If Germany had coordinated with Japan and been more cooperative with each other they could have crushed Russia.
Remember, at that time Japan was the only country to have ever beaten Russia in a war.
>>28326961
They might have stalled the war out long enough that they were defeated by the British and Americans instead of the Russians, which would have been greatly preferable.
>>28327014
Russia actually had a very mixed reputation when it came to fighting. Russia lost huge in WW1, and wasn't well regarded after the debacle in finland and the purges.
>>28327014
That is not correct.
>>28327022
The only reason Russia didnt get cucked hard in WW2 was because germany was fighting on 3 fronts (N. Africa, English channel, Eastern front) And japan didn't war with russia at all
>>28327036
agreed. I hate that meme that Germany could never beat Russia. The same was said about Russia in WW1, that fully mobilized they had to many people to kill. Well Germany beat them just 20-30 years before. Germany made several major blunders but even post-stalingrad had a chance of severally bogging down, and causing huge harm to the reds. I know /k/ loves to blow the reds for some reason, but defeat was very close for them a number of times.
>>28327032
>That is not correct.
Many historians and documentary filmmakers seem to disagree with you.
>>28327036
>>28327064
...also I feel like people who say Russia was 100% going to win are reading the cracked.com version of history. History is full of smaller nations upsetting the larger, and Germany was by no means an underdog. Also I don't care what historical revisionists think. The German army was cutting-edge.. you don't nearly conquer the whole world through luck.
>>28327075
Japan was not only country to beat Russia/USSR in 20th century.
>>28327075
hopefully trolling... or never opened a book.
Better question: How could we have stopped the Cold War? Germany was a temporary problem. Russia lasted much longer. How could we have best played the war to beat down both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia with our knowledge today starting the moment Germany invaded Poland?
But better question: Would we even want to considering all the technology that came from the need to beat the Reds? Would we even want a non-shitty East Asia and South America?
Are we living in the best possible timeline?
>>28327014
Japan was SUPER wrapped up in invading China. Remember, Japan has next to no natural resources, but it was trying to play the industrial powerhouse game against nations with massive amounts of resources. Japan went after the USA because they seized all European and American holdings in the Southeast Pacific to secure the resources they needed. That prompted them to hit the USA at Pearl Harbor, giving them time to shore up the defenses of their island chains. They figured that the USA wouldn't be able to break through, they were massively wrong.
But, they did not have the industrial capacity to fight the war with China and Russia without pissing off America. The idea of the Germans and the Japanese as being as close of allies as, say, America and Britain is a little far fetched, they just basically agreed to stay out of each others way. Further, Japan would have had little to no impact against Russia as the bulk of Russian troops were on the west side of the nation, look at a map and see that to get Japanese troops to Moscow would have been something of a miracle, especially since Japanese vehicles left a lot to be desired.
Let's say the Japanese did invade Russia, they would have invaded largely useless land, far from population centers, and stretched themselves and their already weak lines of supply allowing the Chinese to break them. If you look at a map of China and a map of the USSR the distances were simply ridiculous.
>>28326897
That's actually not true, he said the exact opposite. He took Italian troops with German Advisors and officers and they performed fine. Italian leadership was lacking in the era.
>>28326850
>cavalry
>>28327098
>Japan was not only country to beat Russia/USSR in 20th century.
He didn't say the 20th century.
He said "at the time"
Try to comprehend what you read.
>>28327160
Which is what I said.
Had they cooperated and coordinated with each other more they could have destroyed Russia.
>>28327244
The the documentaries I watched that mentioned it like the ANZAC series are wrong?
Cause they said it was a failure and tie Italians lost horribly.
Maybe you can post a link to something that corroborates your claim?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol
You are now aware that Japan was shit scared of the soviets, after being handed their arse in 1939.
Napoleon invading Russia was a bigger fuckup than hitler's go.
>>28326850
>>28326935
>>28327637
>>28326955
Would the war have gone any better for the Germans if they took Poland underneath their wing and set up a true puppet government? I mean Poland had the 4th largest Allied military, excellent pilots and a true blood thirst for Vatniks, all the Germans would have to do is modernize their military, give them a few tanks and BF109's
>>28327718
And, you know, not exterminated almost a fifth of the population.
>>28327663
Why won't the Russian Winter meme die? Napoleon and Hitler both fucked up by thinking they'd quickly trample the Russian peasants and both failed to prepare for winter period. Shit is retarded
>>28327898
If you think it's that simple then you are simplistic. If you think you can do better than previous attempts, you are welcome to try.
>>28327762
Yeah that too, purge the jews and what not but just spew some propaganda bullshit calling Poles "honorary aryans" and put up posters in Warsaw during Barbarosa that say "Vatniks killed 40,000 officers, what are you gonna do about it"
Oppressing the Poles seems like a big waste of man power and just stress, having to worry about Partisans fucking your shit up instead of focusing entirely on the Russians
>>28327924
>If you think x suck then you're welcome to try
Cool argument bro. Tell me more.
>>28327959
I forgot that armchair Generals don't have an army, sorry.
>>28326850
Bay O' Pigs
>>28327943
So exterminating a mere tenth of the population would have gone down better? Without even taking atrocities against military personnel and POWs?
Not even mentioning the minor detail that the nazis fucking invaded? Why would the poles ever have sided with them? (hell. Of the 68,000 polish conscripts the allies captured, 53,000 immediately joined the polish army in exile...)
>>28327014
The Russians were an embarrassing military force in the late 19th century, the worst being the Crimean War, they were cucked by the Austro-Hungarian Empire during the 1st & 2nd Balkan crisis, terrible leadership going into WWI. They got humiliated in WWI. By the time WWII started the only fear was the amount of men they could send into the meat grinder
>>28327975
>I'm going to act like I know something when I don't
Cool stuff bro, tell me more
>>28326850
ITT: People try justifying 'if only this had happened..' fantasies after they've been proven retarded for years.
Honestly, only when you faggots realize that the Germans were losing horrifically more men during Barbarossa than an any previous campaign will you come to realize why countless experienced commanders realized invading the Soviets was a bad idea as early as the first week (with some of them thinking it was dumb from the start). See: Gudarian, Lemelson, Bock, Manstein (Post-Sevastopol), etc.
Pearl Harbor.
Nips dun fucked up.
>>28327155
The Triple Entente could've been reestablished when Stalin first wanted to instead of disregarding him, they could have also helped the USSR in Europe instead of going to Africa first, that made Uncle Stalin kind of bitter afterwards.
>>28327989
Im not talking about doing this after they invaded, the Germans tried to make Polish divisions for the eastern front and that didnt work out, at all. I mean trying to convince Poland to join the Axis by assuring them they would at the very least remain a sovereign nation and that the Polish military wouldnt get squashed
Because how Poland got treated and betrayed by the West makes me wonder if joining up with Germany would of worked out better
>>28327999
this
trips of truth
>>28328060
It wouldn't, unless you consider the extermination of a full tenth of a nation's population, regardless of anything else that might have happened, to be a minor thing.
Or in your scenario, does Auschwitz just not exist?
>>28328060
Generally speaking, there wasn't much Poland could have done for the Axis anyway. The vast majority of their officer and NCO core were slaughtered by the soviets in '39, there wasn't much fight left in them- much less to motivate for helping the Nazis.
>>28327160
Well Japan not attacking the USSR helped them out significantly, when Vyacheslav Molotov heard that Japan wasn't interested in USSR, he was able to pull troops from the East to take on the Germans, the Siberian divisions were especially helpful during the winter battles
>>28327551
>He didn't say the 20th century.
>He said "at the time"
So, no one had ever beaten Russia/USSR prior to WW2 apart from Japan?
>lrn2 WW1
>>28328101
>The vast majority of their officer and NCO core were slaughtered by the soviets in '39
1940 senpai
>there wasn't much fight left in them
u fockin wot, they didnt put down their arms in September of 1939 and wait the war out, those niggers fought to take their country back
>>28328060
>What is Generalplan Ost
If Japan hadn't pearl harbored and Germany not declared war on the USA it could have gone quite differently. Japan could put pressure on the commies and would just have to slow their expansion. The USA would still declare war on both but it would take an additional few precious months. And it is highly unlikely it would be such a large scale operation as we witnessed now.
>>28328164
>Removing up to 85% "Western Slavs"
>Only removing 50% of true full on Vatnik "blyaat" slavs
Safe to say the Germans made a few mistakes
>>28328221
actually it'd be more like 75%, with most of them being flat out killed.
The remaining Slavs would be used as slaves.
>>28327999
Mongols did it.
The only way to conquer Russia is to be more bydlo and savage then the Slavs themselves.
Honestly, I think the Chinese could defeat the Russians as well. They would just send waves and waves of people at each other, and the Chinese would just outright outman them like Stalin did to Hitler.
>>28327155
First, clean out all the commies and communist sympathizers in the US government, so that you can actually *do* the rest. This part gets overlooked, especially how so much of the anti-war movement immediately flipped to pro-war when Hitler invaded the USSR.
Then, simply fail to give Stalin anything useful from Lend-Lease. Let them fight it out longer by themselves, while moving into position to surround and blockade Japan and picking off bits of Europe and Africa.
Let Hitler finish off Stalin, and then nuke him. Negotiate with the top surviving generals, not the National Socialists.
It's not a sure thing, but given hindsight, it should have a chance.
>>28328379
>Mongols did it
No they didn't. They conquered about 2/5ths of the territory of modern Russia and about half of the people who would become "Russians".
Remember that all these were effectively separate kingdoms at the time and weren't even that well united until Ivan III.
>>28326935
Invade with shit equipment.
>>28328386
> especially how so much of the anti-war movement immediately flipped to pro-war when Hitler invaded the USSR.
With that, I can automatically tell how retarded you are.
Spouting lies does nothing to help you.
>>28327762
Silly Hitler... conquer, *then* exterminate!
If he had played the liberator card, used the "freed" populations as cannon fodder to defeat Stalin, and *then* disarmed them and liquidated them, it might have worked.
After all, that's how Stalin played it, and he managed to kill 10 million Ukrainians without much fuss.
>>28328408
Mongols went on a fucking rampage wherever they went. Slavs were nothing to Mongols but rape and pillage material. They conquered straight past the Urals all the way into Poland where they butchered the Poles too. That is as close to conquering 'Russia' as you could have at the time. They took everything of importance and had absolute control.
The only time they were ever stopped was because a typhoon destroyed their fleet on their conquest to Japan.
>>28328443
Ukies still pretty bitter over the Holodomor, and the Ruskies being native-American givers with Crimea.
>>28328443
THIS ONE LESSON YOU MUST LEARN
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>>28327762
>>28327989
>>28328087
>extermination
When will this misconception finally die out?
>>28328495
That is how Stalin was able to convince so many people to die for the State. Propaganda convinced the Slavs that they were fighting for their very existence.
>>28326850
Everything Russia's Navy did during the Russo Japanese war.
>>28328495
You know, when the papers that called for it, see Generalplan Ost, become non-existent.
The Greatest military fuckup of all time??
Feast your eyes my young ones...
>>28328035
Nope. Afrika was to protect the oil fields of the British controlled mid east. Other wise the brits woulda ran out of oil. NothAfrika proved to be priority over europe
>>28328682
Yup. Italy fucked up as usual. They had 1 fucking job and that was to take North Africa.
People give France flak, when in reality the Italians are the worst fighting force in history, just above the Arabs.
France just surrenders. Italy fucks up their own allies then switches sides after losing the war.
>>28328673
Never forget.
>>28327064
Germany came close enough to beating Russia that the Russians were putting women into combat positions. A number of factors played into the eventual German defeat. Multiple fronts was a big one. The 3/1 population advantage was a factor, but not as big as everybody makes it out to be. The biggest deciding factor was the sheer size of the Eastern Front. Germany simply didn't have the capability to move resources fast enough and far enough to meet every threat.
>>28326850
Obama pulling out all our troops from Iraq at least a decade too early.
Look what we have now. ISIS, a FAR more deadly threat to America than Al-Qaeda, is running amok. A civil war in Seria, Benghazi etc.
Never before has a Commander and Chief fucked up so badly.
>>28330386
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>>28330386
>ISIS bigger threat
Someone doesn't understand asymmetric threats
>>28330386
>Never before has a Commander and Chief fucked up so badly.
Yes, lets definitely not blame the commander in chief who originally destabilized the entire region. A president who launched the iraq war and the patriot act.
>>28330466
>hurr durr why aren't you hating on the dude that started all the bullshit
because when obongo continues to enforce, or expands, 90% of said bullshit policies, he loses his innocence.
>>28330527
So Obama is just a continuation of the previous administration but it's his fault for the sad state of things? No. No one blames Nixon for Vietnam.
>>28330559
>but it's his fault for the sad state of things?
Making it worse? Yes.
>>28326850
The USA not following through on Iraq in the 90s
>>28326850
Really? Nobody thinks that Kaiser Wilhelm's bonehead maneuvers tying to invade France through Belgium in 195-ish hours before the Russian Army got to Austria Hungary wasn't an epic miscalculation?
> Naaahhhhh. The Belgians won't resist.
> Nahhhhhhhh. The English won't honor their treaty to defend Belgium?
> Wait- who blew up all the bridges and roads in Belgium? And who let all these fucking Limeys into the party? Oh, fuck- the Russians are here already? God damn it, Franz, what the fuck did you get us into?!
> Otto Von Bismarck: I don't know what you're on about, mate. Shit was working when you fired me.
> Kaiser Wilhelm: FML.
>>28330575
Or better? Oil is cheaper than ever, no draft, and no one cares about our acceptable losses. Even with Russia deploying AA in the region, we could keep up drone strikes for years. You're an idiot if you think the endgame is anything other than denying Russia and securing resources, which has already been accomplished.
>>28330559
You just might be retarded.
If you actively promote, enforce, and expand the same bullshit policy, you are responsible for it.
fuck off with your nam reference, too. It doesn't apply here
>bush gets patriot act going
>obongo takes office
>strengthens the act
>lol why you blaming me guys?
>is it cuz im black?
>just following orders
>oh wait I'm commander in chief
get fucked
>>28326850
Gallipoli. Invested too many fucking resources into a point which had little military interest outside supply lines which were doing perfectly fine already.
It was mainly a point in the war where military generals and officers were trying to make a name for themselves, in the end we (australia and NZ) had to withdraw, because british military leadership got us fucking slaughtered.
And that's why we don't work under the british military any more. Brits can get fucked.
>>28330615
Hey, just read my post and fuck your hat with that race shit.
>>28330615
>>28330624
Pretty much all of WW1 is the biggest military fuck up in history.
>>28330627
you literally can't refute me
>>28330624
So, curiosity: where are you, ANZAC, with the asshattery in Turkey now? Are ANZAC still doing solidarity with Turkey, or are you calling Erdogan out for a self-promoting war profiteer?
>>28330665
I meant to quote the post above yours but you're too dense to figure that out on your own.
>>28330680
>you're too dense to read my mind
Reminder Japan only beat Russia because half of their war money was provided by private foreigners like Jacob Schiff and the war still left their country bankrupt.
They would've never "won" (hastily looking for a third party mediator like the United States after Tsushima) without those donations.
>>28330924
>Being this much of an upset vatnik
CYKA BLYAAT NA RODINU
>>28330970
>being upset japan was used by the british in the great game
>>28330710
I mean, yeah you are kind of dense tho.
>>28330924
Nope? Russia failed on literally every level in the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905 and nobody expected Japan to win. The Russians didn't lose a little, they were utterly humiliated by a vastly superior force.
>>28330924
Did you not read this? >>28328635
Greatest in my country?
The INSAS
>>28331166
>>28331342
Did you not read what I said? Japan was bankrupt even after Tsushima. They couldn't continue the war.
Decisive-Battlefags please leave.
>>28330227
I think another major factor was the fact that German logistics never reached above like 40% mechanized at any point during the war IIRC. With having to literally rely on horse drawn wagons to get your supplies to the front you open yourself up to another massive shit show.
>>28330605
I fucking despise Willy. He was a man-child degenerate and the absolute worst that Haus Hohenzollern had to offer. The German Empire would have fared far better if his father, Friedrich III, hadn't died the same year he was crowned German Emperor.
>>28328408
but that 2/5ths was the most important part of russia, even more so at the time.
>>28330624
the worst part: the Mesopotamia campaign was doing exactly what they hoped gallipoli was going to do. Unfortunately it was under supplied and under equipped to finish the job. If they focused on buffing up the Mesopotamia campaign instead of getting caught up in Gallipoli the war might have gone a lot better for the limeys.
>>28326850
>It's likely they would have been able to hold on to Europe even in the face of the Allied Invasions.
Except that Russia would've pushed Germany's shit in even if Hitler hadn't attacked first.
Wehraboos are some sore losers, y'all need to get the hell over it.
>>28330667
Cunt I don't know I'm too busy clutching at my fucking gun rights and working to know what ANZAC's commitment to bumfuckistan is.
>>28331476
>40%
try 15% at best. In 1941.
>>28328639
see: Post war soviet/allied propaganda
>>28330386
It's really just the militaries fault for being incompetent in the actual invasion, and being incompetent in COIN operations.
Also there was a complete lack of any achievable goals. But still the military needs to take 90% of the blame for the failure.
>>28330624
>ANZACS were the whole Gallipoli campaign
>Muh lions lead by donkeys
>ARE BRAVE BOYS
Confirmed bogan. ANZACs weren't cannon fodder any more than any other nation in that fucking disaster of a campaign in that fucking disaster of a war.
More troops from the home counties died there than ANZACS though and even the fucking French had more of a presence there than any individual ANZAC nation.
When are you drongos going to give up on this myth that we actually contributed anything to that war.
>if the Gallipoli campaign was successful
>MERP MERP WE DID WHAT THE STUPID BRITS COULDN'T AUS #1
>>28330710
what game is this?
>>28332277
Total war, either Rome 2 or Atilla
>>28327014
>Remember, at that time Japan was the only country to have ever beaten Russia in a war.
What a load of shite. And Japan fought the Soviets at Kalkhin Gol and got their shit pushed in
>>28332129
See: wehraboo denying muh warcrimes
>>28332349
There are no original copies for any of the "evidence" shown at nuremberg
Which means its all bullshit
>>28332357
Sure
>>28332365
>us allies the good guys :^)
>we dindu nuttin
>Totally justified in firebombing civilians :^)
>Totally justified in handing half the world to the communists :^)
>>28332373
Boy you've really sourced and supported your post by trying to change the subject.
>>28332393
There is no source for the existance of "general plan ost" other than fake documents & forced confessions at nuremberg.
>>28332402
So there's no way for you to prove what you believe. Well done.
>>28332419
neither can you.
Since even the allies admit no copies of general plan ost exist.
>>28332402
>There is no source for the existance of
That's the point where your mind kicks in and starts telling you something is bullshit
>>28326955
>>28327718
>>28327762
>>28327943
>>28328060
>>28328087
>>28328164
To all of you i highly recomend book titled "Pakt Ribbentrop-Beck" i don't know if there is an english version but this book tells story about Poland accepting Hitler's proposal to invade Russia.
>tl;dr
>Poland helps Germany destroy USSR.
>Stalin goes full Hitler but couple years earlier.
>And by that i mean bullet in the underground bunker somewhere in Syberia.
>Poland gets ukraine as a treaty said.
>Nazis go full auschwitz but not on Poles, making jews run to Poland controled teritories.
>Germany with only one front and raw materials from ex-USSR still manages to start loosing.
>Allies meet with Polish gov telling them that if they won't help Adolf fighting in the western front they will accept gains the Nazis gave them.
>War ends.
>Hitler goes full Hitler.
Really good read, makes you think how couple decisions could shape en entire world.
>>28332439
fucking beck
>>28327155
no. operation unthinkable should have happened
>>28327155
>Salvage wehrmacht.
>Go total war on USSR.
>Win since it'll be some time before Ruskies will get nukes.
or
>Drop a nuke or two on Moscow.
>Tell the reds to surrender.
>Win.
It's that simple anon. But you know what makes me wonder? If there is an alternate universe in which one of these two options happened. Think about it, there is /k/ somewhere in which they discuss possible USSR policies if the allies hadn't destroyed them in 1946.
>>28326850
>creates thread about greatest military blunders
>doesn't mention Troy
"Oh hey, a giant present from the guys that were just trying to kill us yesterday. OPEN THE GATES!"
>>28332500
Stalinist Russia wasn't war-weary Japan. It would have taken a lot more than 1 or 2 fission bombs.
>>28332568
>glass major cities, Moscow, Stalingrad etc.
>carpet bomb rest.
>pick out one by one remaning units.
That is ofcourse if the ruskies wouldn't shit themselves if they'd heard that half of the country has been wiped out in one day.
>>28330466
This
>>28330386
>Lord Obama's fault
The pullout of Iraq was decided from Bush's presidency already before he came into office
>>28330386
>>28332694
Neither Al qaeada, nor ISIS are "threats" to the US
The only "threat" is the treasonous wide open borders allowing terrorists to come in.
The border is so wide open, that modern terrorists were born here 30 years ago, so the politicians claim that they are "americans", and ending immigration wouldn't solve the problem...
>>28326850
Operation Iraqi Freedom. A ten-year clusterfuck that cost over a Trillion dollars, killed a million+ civilians an nearly 5K Americans, and the only thing it accomplished was destabilizing the Middle East for generations to come.
>>28326850
>I'm going with Hitler invading Russia.
Errm, you realize that of all the wars he fought that one was the only one he actually wanted to fight, yes? The war against Russia was the centerpiece in his whole ideology. He wasn't doing a Napoleon and invaded Russia just because he could or to show off his military skills, but because in his world view invading Russia was necessary to rid the world of the Jewish conspiracy which would put the world back in its normal and natural state which according to Hitler was eternal struggle between races. So, yes, you can call it a blunder or fuck-up. But no man in the entire world could have convinced Hitler to change his mind on that one. It's not a "sir, pawn to d4 would be a better move" issue. There was no way he was NOT gonna invade Russia.
>>28327014
Except Finland right?
>>28326850
Oh look at that, another armchair bootenant that has no idea what he's talking about and hasn't even done much in the way of fact checking.
Man, there will never be an end to your kind, and I just don't know how to live with that.
>>28332982
and poland in the polish-soviet war, and germany in ww1 because revolution
>>28333038
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_I)
Reminder that this happened.
And it's not even the worst one
>>28327155
The Cold War was a historical area. Not an event. What could have stopped it was the elimination of one of the two primary countries' systems of government, and even then we got fucking lucky
>>28328027
It's incredible how intricately planned Pearl Harbor was, and how fucked up it turned out in the face of raw American idiocy
>recieve notification of attack in advance
>detect possible Japanese sub near harbor
>nah fugget abowt et
>bombing happens
>base drops its collective spaghetti during the recovery
>more deaths = fuel for war
>ship out in the complete wrong direction to Australia
>Japan meanwhile runs out of resources from hatesexing China
>finally someone points our dumbass at Japan
>proceed to brute force wreck their shit for 2 years all the way up the pacific
>drop 2 fucking nukes on them because why not :^)
>blew them retarded, did not recover for 50 years
>also ended up fighting some other cartoon villain on the wrong side of the world for 5 years somehow
>Saved the Fucking World
>God Bless The USA
>>28326850
Top kuck, bigger blunder would have been to let Stalin attack, claim whole of Europe and ultimately Russia beating USA in Cold War.
>>28330605
It nearly worked. France was a hair's breadth away from collapse before they got lucky in their last ditch effort to stop the Schlieffen plan.
>>28331891
Horry shit- why'd you need to call me a cunt? I'm just asking a question. Are people willing to forgive Erdoagn because Turkey? Or do people see him for the shitbird he is?
>>28334509
>why'd you need to call me a cunt?
Because he's Australian you cunt.
>>28327014
>Japan
>Good at killing anyone except extremely underfunded troops or rice farmers with spears
