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Itt: fudd lore

>the sound of a racking shotgun shell deters intruders.
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>Yuh can't hunt with 20mm, yer'll blow the meat clean off
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>>28315871
Had a fudd tell me once the military won't shoot a human with a .50bmg Barrett because it's inhumane
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>>28315881
But using a smaller round means the animal might suffer more
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I'm a 50 guy.
The 50 is the sexiest weapon
the Army's got.
It's loud, it shoots a whole
hell of a long way.
They say, that round
only has to be
within 18 inches of you,
to sear flesh.
That's bad-ass.
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>>28315967
>the animal might suffer more.
It's an animal. Animals suffer in nature all the time, they don't live ideal lives.
The only animals that ever die of old age are those both lucky and in captivity, pets, or are apex predators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vohz__7wtU

As long as it ends up dead, the suffering makes no difference to the animal.
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>>28315871
>implying it doesn't
I mean I'd still want to have the shotgun ready to go if they aren't scared off, but 99% of Jamals and Pacos breaking into your home don't want to die for your TV.
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>>28316167
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>>28316027
>only has to be within 18 inches of you to seat flesh

No wonder why I constantly get burns when I stock .50 bmg at the store.
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>>28316167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzwbOZKfrUQ
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>>28316192
They're usually high/drunk as shit. That noise is stimulising (pardon my spelling, in gym). You give away your position as well.
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>>28315871

>revolvers are simpler and more reliable than semi autos
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>use birdshot for home defense, it won't penetrate your walls
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>>28316454
Fucking kek
I can add to this
>>once had a fudd tell me that birdshot wont kill an intruder
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>>28316454
My dad uses birdshot for self defense

At one point he wanted to buy an AR-15 and said to me "Yea Anon I'm thinking about buying an M4"

My dad is cringe help me /k/, how do I cleanse him of fuddiness
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>>28316667
Home defense I mean.
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>>28316667
>I'm thinking about buying an M4

You think he's being silly but one day he actually shows up with one
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>>28316027
That part made me lol. That guy seemed pretty cool though tbqh
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>>28316544
There's a good chance it won't.
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>>28315871
>.45 is a better carry chambering than 9mm
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>>28316749
Yeah, I liked Sterling myself, I just find it funny he bought obvious bullshit like that
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>>28316201
I don't get it
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>>28316284
So you can't spell when you're in a gym?
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>>28315898
It's not inhumane, it's because the miltary made had to appeal to the people who saw it blow limbs off and gigantic holes through them.
Also I think we should be able to use 50bmg because
>What is show of force/intemidation
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>>28316793
He put his willy in all the chickens.
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>>28316284
>Give your position away.
Because cocking any other gun wont?
Revolvers excluded.
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>>28316787
Why isnt it.
It goes through a whole hell of alot more shit.
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>>28316770
At 30 yards through a winter coat maybe.

At 15 feet even the plastic wad will go clear through someone, and your pattern is so dense and small its almost like a slug regardless of choke or shot size.
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>9mm is effectively marshmallows coming out of a pop gun
>.45 auto/acp [out of a 1911] will kill in one shot every time
>The 1911 is flawless in every way
>You will never need more than 6 shots in any defensive situation
>.500 S&W will break your wrist
>Sawed-off/short shotguns are magically more powerful than longer ones
>.556 can't kill a deer
>.50 B/MG doesn't actually have to hit you to kill you because of it's magical cawadooty corona of pure fuddlore
>All bullpups are inherently bad
>The obligatory racking shotgun sound myth
>[870/590] is the best shotgun that has ever existed, while the [870/590] is the worst shotgun that has ever existed
>Kimber's 1911s are the things legends are made of and I can't wait to buy one
>Glocks are shit
>Sigs are shit
>1911's in anything other than .45 are shit
>Did I mention how 1911s are the best firearm?
>What's a High-Power?

My entire family are fudds and I got to see them all this Christmas.
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>>28316261

>those screams
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>>28316854
This is fudd lore
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>>28316261
>1k dislikes
Top kek
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>>28316896
I have personally tested several different shot sizes through several different chokes vs. both drywall and homebrew ballistic gel in 5 foot increments from 10 feet to 25 yards. #6 birdshot through a cylinder choke maintained a less than 5" pattern and more than 12" of penetration on my gel to 25 yards. #7.5 birdshot maintained a less than 5" pattern to 25 yards and more than 12" of penetration to 15 yards. All loads tested had the wad fully penetrating 24" of gel to 20 yards.
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>>28316873
>.556
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>>28316928
Did you calibrate the gel with a BB and keep it at the acceptable temperature and everything? I find that kind of penetration hard to believe. Here is a link detailing universal sub 12" penetration with a variety of birdshot loads. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/02/robert-farago/shotgun-penetration-with-various-rounds/
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>>28316931
>not hunting durr with a destructive device
You're missing out anon
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>>28316928
>thinks "homebrew" ballistics gel simulates human flesh accurately
>thinks ballistics gel in general simulates human flesh accurately
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>>28316454
It is technically safer.
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>>28316996
No, because I didnt have the capability to.

While I personally dont think its a good idea to use smaller birdshot for defense, Ive seen enough evidence firsthand to convince me it would be enough at in-home ranges of 15 feet or less.
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>>28316817
Sweaty hands and you shake when you deadlift more than 4 plates, along with the fact that I don't give much of a shit.
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>>28316836
That's why you keep any gun for home defense fully loaded. Including one in the chamber.
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>>28316167
This is actually pretty true
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>>28316873
Fuck you glock fan boy.

1911 are superior and that's why we won the war and are still being made today. Mine cost over 2k and your shitty plastic toy gun cost 500. Get rekt
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>>28317056
Well for one it doesn't need to simulate flesh, it is flesh. Secondly it doesn't need to replicate a human body perfectly, just provide a standard for ballistics testing so you can compare one round to another.
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>>28315898
Law of War briefings actually say that.
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>>28316931
>not hunting with a boys anti-tank rifle
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>>28316284
You aren't at the gym dipshit
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>>28316261
>those comments
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>>28318526
No they don't you fucking fudd.
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>>28317541
Goddamn you're insecure
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Oh my favorite:

>"Back in 'Nam we'd take those AK47 rounds off the gooks because we could shoot them out our M14's."
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>>28315898
of course we don't shoot humans with .50BMG...
we shoot the equipment (clothes) he is wearing.
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>>28316261
all that screaming reminds me of my first deer kill.
didn't shoot straight and wound up dumping 4 00buckshot shells in its direction.
hit it in its chest and blew its front left leg off right below the knee joint
father didn't want to risk shooting another shell into it from close range, so I had to slit its throat
it started screaming and so it shut it up and expidite the process its throat was then steped on.
won't lie I got a little light headed and woozy
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>>28315871
>An AR-15 for home defense? You'll kill your neighbor 2 houses over!
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>>28319747
Why dont you shoot it with a side arm in the head instead of slitting bambis moms throat you jerk >:(
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>>28315871
>intimidation is fuddlore

Nice try.
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>>28319526
>damage control
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>>28319747
Killing your first animal with your hands is always a bit of an experience. For me, I had to be the mad scientist with a frog at school, because everyone else in my biology group was too much of a pansy to conduct pithing and vivisection, even the girl that wanted to be a veterinarian. But, that experience allowed me to get over it, and I can just easily twist the necks of pheasant that aren't killed immediately or are dying in snow from hypothermia or starvation. Hopefully you got better about it.
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>>28320261
So will literally anything that can reliably drop a man.
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>A jacketed .45 will cause more damage than a hollow point 10mm every time

visiting home for the holidays, so I get to listen to my dad's fuddlore for hours on end
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>>28315871

It sure as hell didn't scare off the shitskin that cut me off in traffic and I cussed out and it followed me home.

Had to resort to calling my cop buddy to pull him over a few days later to let him know he's in the wrong neighborhood to be pulling that kinda macho man spic shit. I think he was some sort of Italian or middle eastern looking fucker. Hot white wife was a coal burner. Of course, he drove a 20 year old entry level 3 series BMW.
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>>28315871
Shotguns have a spread pattern similar to a M67 at distances greater than 5 feet.
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>>28320448
Better to have +1 round ready to go in your gun. If the sight of the gun should be more than enough intimation, if not then you'll be glad you had that extra round ready to go, ya fudd.
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>>28317541
>Paying 2k for outdated obsolete design.
ISHYGDDT
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fudds that think 45acp will cut through heavy car bodies like butter or better than any other pistol round. Apparently to many fudds the 45acp and 1911 was given to man by God through our lord and savior Jesus Christ who shot Satan in the dick with it.
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>>28315967
20mm not 20 caliber.
Honestly i don't see a problem with hunting with 20mm as long as you know where your rounds going after it exits the deer.
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>>28315898
to be fair, FiddyBee Em Gee is an anti-materiel round primarily intended to fuck up vehicles and equipment before people
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>>28315871
>22lr > 9mm because it bounces around in ya.
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>>28321926
oh god, this shit
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>>28321926
Fuck this shit right here, I get an ulcer every time I hear this.
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>>28315871
>>the sound of a racking shotgun shell deters intruders.
>tfw my mom thinks this
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>>28317112
Good one bruh you earned the respect of everyone fo sho
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>>28315871
>3am hear a noise.
>Jump out of bed
>Hearing the sounds of foot steps at least two maybe three intruders.
>At the top of my lung I yell "CHUCK CHUCK"
>They begin to scatter like roaches.
>The day is saved again.
True story swear to God.
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>>28316261
>Call somebody!

Like fucking who? The bear police?
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>>28322023
kek
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>>28322055
You don't know about the bear police?
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>I shoot furrdy fave because shootin twice is just silly
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>>28321849
>think .45acp will cut through car bodies like butter
...it will.

But so will almost everything else, even .32acp.

Cars arent particularly good at stopping projectiles.
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>middle eastern fudd
>shooting gun in the air while being surrounded by people is perfectly okay
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=092_1385087034

0:50 for money
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My grandpa once peppered a burglar bull of birdshot, from about 15yrds. Didn't kill the guy, but it sure fucked him up good.
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>>28320863
I misread "pheasant" as "peasant" and it made things so much better.
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>>28319491
Yeah that do, or at least they did a year ago before I started terminal leave.
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>>28316261

>Get off my lawn!
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>>28323329
Thirty five?
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>>28321849
No, It was a divine revelation of God to John Moses Browning, Patron Saint of Firearms. If you don't agree you can get out of /k/.
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>>28317541

In which fucking war did glockusers fight against 1911 users
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>you need a minimum of .338 Lapua to stop a charging grizzly
>even that isn't enough
>grizzly bears can charge you even if you shoot them through the heart
>don't aim for their head otherwise the bullet will deflect off of their impenetrable skull
>if you are unarmed play dead so that the bear will lose interest in you after eating your organs

>I keep a loaded shotgun with slugs next to my bed for grizzly defense
^lives in the lower 48 states

meanwhile.. in real life

>engineer gets mauled by mama griz
>plays dead
>she keeps mauling him
>he kicks her in the nose twice
>she runs away, gets a bloody nose, huffs and puffs
>he kicks her again
>she runs away for good
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/grizzly-bear-attack-near-bella-bella-b-c-ends-with-kick-to-the-face-1.3157849

http://www.backpacker.com/news-and-events/news/trail-news/ask-a-bear-how-many-bear-attacks-really-2/
>3 people die from bear attacks in North America per year
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/wld/documents/blackbear.pdf
>Conservation officers in BC, Canada kill up to 1000 black bears a year
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>>28315871
the worst part about fudds is that they are the most knowledgeable group of gun owners in America.

feelsbadman.jpg
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>>28323675
>grizzly, niggers of the forest
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FS/FT: Original Nazi Mouser

I got dis huur Natsee Mouser thats been sporterized to make a duur gun. I have only killed one duur and shot 10 rounds throug it since i sporterized it bout 2 year ago. Dis a reaaaal nice Natsee rifle with a Barska scope I got frum Big 5.
Ill trade fir a nice Kimbur Ninteeneleben or a Simt n Wessun Modul 29 NO ARs, I dont need an assault rifle
1500 firm
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>self defense against a robber armed with a handgun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsrlljB1iOI
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>>28316027
Restrepo pls
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>>28322023
huehuehue, lost my shit
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>>28323366

The only part of a car that I would trust to stop a bullet is the engine block.
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>I dun keep mah clips loaded cuz dat wears out da springs!
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>>28321923
Well yeah, but it does make a crackin' extreme long range anti personnel round too
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>>28323366
Yeah, car doors are pretty much shite for stopping bullets these days. Back when we made them out of super heavy steel they were better, albeit much heavier.

It's actually why the .357 mag round was invented, the .38spl wasn't cutting it vs cars back in the day
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>>28316849
>.45
>It goes through a whole hell of alot more shit.

Except it... doesn't?
http://sigtalk.com/guns/19743-has-least-penetration.html
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>>28315871
>5.56 was made to wound, not kill!
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>>28324536
>this holy fuck

ive personally seen fist sized exit wounds in sandapes from ~150m
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>>28321366
>calling your cop buddy to fight your battles for you
How's it feel to be a spineless fudd?
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>>28316284
>gym

That's a funny way of spelling "bar".
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>fmjs are not designed to kill! They leave small exit wounds! They go straight through soldiers so they can go home alive!
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>>28315871
>implying my HD weapon isn't a benelli m4
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>>28319427
>>28324600
Nerds
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>>28317541
2k??? Poorfag.

If you arent buying atleast a 3,000 dollar nighthawk/wilson combat, you arent trying.
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>>28324717
I bet you could only lift it for the picture, that is if you didn't shoop this, loser.
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>>28315871
Visited my grandpa on Christmas Eve. I love him, but holy shit hes a fudd/borderline grabber.
>nobody needs to carry a gun around
>if everyone had a gun, everyone would shoot each other at football games
>nobody needs an assault rifle
>you cant hunt with them
>all they're good for is shooting people you don't like
I felt odd, because I was carrying when I went to see him and replaced my AR's languages the night before. He's given me multiple guns over the years and keeps a loaded revolver by his chair. I just don't understand where some people decode to draw the line.
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>>28324778
Stay mad skele
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>>28324717
Nice socks, faggot.
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>>28324791
> IMG_3685
narcissist detected
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>>28324789
>AR's languages
What? Does it speak spanish now?
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>>28324778
Gas yourself you jelly cunt
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>>28316667
Birdshot for home defense is pretty widely accepted outside of /k/.
And maybe he means a benelli m4
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>>28324717
thats about average for deatlifts for amateur lifters. Come back at 7 plates.
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>>28317112
I mean, maybe you shake while you're in the process of lifting them. Props if you're trying to lift one handed and type at the same time, I guess. That's some dedication to /k/.
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>>28321926
Jesus, this is my dad. I was talking about guns with him yesterday and got the "that old revolver I got from my father is just as effective for home defense and killing coyotes as any of your guns". His revolver is a .22 lr. This is his only gun. He thinks that will protect his home as well as my Mossberg 500. He isn't even that good of a shot.
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>>28315871

>milled AKs are superior to stamped AKs
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>>28315871
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>>28321366
>getting into altercations because someone cut you off in traffic

Holy shit people like you should not own guns. If you can't control your temper you cant be trusted with a weapon
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>>28324952
agreed
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>>28324810
Lol, first thing i noticed too
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>>28324941
It's more about how rare it is to get foreign milled AKs compared to stamped AKs. At least that's what is was about for me.
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>>28324791
>>28324830

Nice samefaggotry m8. Stay salty, fudlord :^)
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>>28325040

It's okay until people start pretending they're superior (and not just obsolete) just because they paid more for them.
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>>28325050
Wat
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>>28325040
>go to k-var
>milled AK variant is easily found

Tell me again, how rare they are to get?
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>>28324717
>according to this picture you're 5'6...
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>>28325083
>Implying you didn't just make one post using WiFi, then deleting your cookies and cache before posting via LTE
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>>28325102
Well, it's no surprise a manlet projects his insecurities on the Internet by posting pictures of himself lifting and posing in front of the mirror.
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>>28319747
>my father told me to approach a wounded animal
>I was stupid enough to obey him and not try to get emancipated
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>>28325239
You mean you don't slit hogs throats with a bootknife when they are in a snare trap?

Damn pussies.
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>>28325277
>Damn pussies.
Yes. So?

I also don't eat raw meat. And I always wear my seatbelt.
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>>28324717
Manlets, when will they learn?
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>>28321849
>Implying John Browning Moses isn't our Lord and Savior.
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>>28325106
Why is it so hard for you to accept that a guy who browses /k/ can be strong?
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>>28316027
That's a myth about the round burning you.

Btw everything you just said describes the 155 howitzer better.
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>>28324791

Goofy?
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>>28324717
you go to a nig college
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>>28316027
>They say, that round
>only has to be
>within 18 inches of you,
>to sear flesh.
that is incorrect.
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>>28315871
>"The .40 S&W has 93% of the .45's stopping power."
>"An M1 Garand is gonna dislocate your shoulder just from the recoil, kid!"
>"Anything below 30 caliber is a waste of time."
>Boston's Gun Bible aka the Gospel of Fudd
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>>28319634
That's straight-up stolen valor
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>>28316849
>.45
>penetration
pick one
it's far too fatslow for good barrier penetration
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>>28325924
>"The .40 S&W has 93% of the .45's stopping power."
I mean, a specific round of .40 S&W might have 93% of a specific round of .45ACP's muzzle energy.
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>>28316849
.45ACP is like a baseball bat, it hits hard, delivers a lot of energy, but it's not penetrating anything.

9mm is like a saber, it'll penetrate, and it'll make holes in stuff, but the imparted total force will be lower.

They fill different niches, and ultimately, it comes down to your preferences and what you need the gun to do.
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>if you own an AR rifle lower and you even so much as click "add to shopping cart" an AR upper that's under 16" before sending the ATF $200, starting a legal trust, waiting 11 months, getting a background check, and engraving your SBR trust name and serial into the lower, the ATF will send an elite team of agents into your home to shoot your dog, mace your wife, confiscate your guns, and burn your house down before sentencing you to 10 years in a federal penitentiary and a $100,000 fine
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>>28326039
Right, right. This is why people load .45 ACP military ball ammo in (black) bear country instead of 9mm. They're dumb.
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>>28326014
That's what I thought they meant, but apparently that wasn't the case at all. They seriously thought stopping power was a quantifiable thing.
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>>28326106
I'm talking about defeating bullet resistant armor or light cover, not bearskin.
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>>28315898
You're not technically supposed to use any fifty round that isn't ball against humans, because of some old treaty that outlaws exploding shells (ie anything with explosive or pyrotechnic filler) under a certain caliber for use against humans. However, I don't think anyone cares too much. Mostly because it doesn't matter whether you get hit with .50 AP, .50 Ball or some special effects round, you're dead as shit.
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>>28317541
Fact: John Browning made the hi-power in 9mm because he realized that 9mm was better than his .45acp and he'd think you're fucking stupid for using 1911 in 2015 when he designed it's successor 80 years ago.
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>>28325299
NERD!!! I bet you bathe yourself regularly and pay taxes! Total welp.#smhtbqhfam
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>>28324791
mirin
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>>28326319
Don't speak for John Moses Browning, anon. I'm sure he would approve of anyone who accepts his designs into their lives, regardless of caliber.
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>>28328321
>don't speak for JMB
>speaks for JMB
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>>28316027

I always like hearing the one about .50 BMG only having to travel a few inches away from you to take your arm off. When I took this pic, I was in the rear facing seat and only a couple feet away from the muzzle of the Gau-21. You definitely feel it but it's nothing crazy.
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>>28326650
Would the bear police be guys in charge of arresting bears, or police who are bears themselves?
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>>28328413
who polices the bear police?
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>>28326650
>>28328413
>>28328426

bearlivesmatter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5cMZymSr0
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>>28328445
Is that a old cub/young bear that can't be killed or is the woman too stupid/poor to realize that her life/safety is worth more than a kayak?
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>>28328537
> woman too stupid/poor to realize that her life/safety is worth more than a kayak?

>majority of anti's are female

>answering your own question
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Fuck fudds
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>>28324329
Not a bad takedown technique, with enough practice. Of course, if he decides to shoot you before you decide to move...
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>>28325921
No shit dude, you fucking idiot.
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>>28316713
Dad magic, the best kind of magic.
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>>28328409
that looks like tom cruise
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>>28320441
>Lugging around a 22 revolver with ratshot
Pass
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>>28321806
Different guy, but
>Dad got a Kimber back in the day
>Waaay back in the day
>Paid less than $400
>No problems, one of the good ones, guy just wanted it off his shelf
>Now have .45 to fuck around with
Not that I carry it or bring it to the range, but it's a 1911 and that's all that matters.
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>Mfw I carry a 45 loaded with civil defense
>Mfw my bedside gun is a 30-30
> Mfw gangfags still use hi points chambered in 9×weeniehutjunior
>people who say stopping power doesn't exist dont carry 22lr
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>>28331682
Saw a guy at the local pawn shop today chatting up the desk girl about the ins and outs of guns. Sweet convo going on, I pitch in, everythingismerry.jpg
Pulls out his CC. Fucking HiPoint.
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>>28331693
Sounds like a cuck
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>>28326210
The treaty you are referring to is the Hague Convention after WWI, hilariously enough we only "observed" most of that shit and didn't outright pledge to it like many of the European countries
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>>28331762
The US signed and ratified most of the Hague almost immediately, before WWI.
The St. Petersburg declaration is what banned exploding bullets under 1/4 pound and occurred shortly after the US civil war.
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>>28324717
Oh look a fatbody manlet that can't dl more than 500 is calling people nerds on the internet. It's a new one every week.
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>>28325791

>Strong when lifting less than 500 as a fatass

No
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>back in dubya dubya two thuh jermuns herd tha ping of da m1 grand a new when ta shoot owr bois!
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>>28324472
.357 was specifically intended to help break through early armored cars and glass that police were dealing with, though I'm sure they appreciated that it would fuck up any other cars just as much
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>>28316544
A former marine cwp cert instructor told me the same.
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>>28325007
>>28324952
Are you two illiterate?
He said it (the spic) followed HIM home.
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>>28323397
I've never seen this angle of the video.

Fucking sandniggers.
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>>28324329
isnt this just krav magoo
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>>28332148
After Jackass McRoadrage cussed him out. Not saying the beaneater was justified, but homeboy should take responsibility for his part in sending shit south.

Takes two to tango, fuckboy. Learn to ignore people.
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>>28331919
>Two krauts hiding behind a rock
>A doughboy runs in, firing his rifle
>PING
>"Otto! Das pingen!"
>Nazis stand up and open fire
>Doughboy pelted with 9mm, it bounces off of his jacket
>Dies of a coronary anyways

WWII
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>Revolvers never fail unless its a dud your trying to fire
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>>28332589
revolvers really can only fuck up if you've broken the gun itself or there's something wrong with your ammo...

...which is the case with most srtiker-fired pistols as well. Moot point.
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>>28332574
>before he dies the doughboy manages to blow a hole through both Nahtzees with a single soul-killing shot of FORTY FIVE ACE CEEPEE
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>>28315871

My father in law believes this. He then told me that 22 is the best home defense gun....His reason was because of the muzzle flash, how the 22 muzzle flash won't blind you when you shoot it. When I asked him why he would be blinded from the flash. He replies with its dark, no one has a flash light or a light on....so the muzzle flash will blind you temporary.
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>>28332613
Weeeellll....I mean......
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>>28332621
anon don't be retarded
muzzle flash is a lot less of an issue in this situation than the sound anyways which is why suppressors need to be legalized
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>>28332613
A 22lr will work fine for home defense.
>people actually use shotguns with slugs for defense against human invaders
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>>28332630
I mean, if I popped off a 12 gauge in pitch dark, its gonna hurt my eyes...and ears for sure. Probably should be able to see whats there before you shoot though...
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>>28316027
Shut up, Jones.
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>>28332632
more like defense against the neighbor lady sleeping in the next house over
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>>28322055

ON THE FLOOR FUCKERS, BEAR POLICE HAVE THIS SHIT CONTAINED
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>>28333353

AAAHHHHH

FUCK
U
C
K
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>>28332148
Yeah, my reading comprehension is solid. Roadrage for being cut off is childish and immature. If the kid hadn't overreacted, the big bag messican wouldn't have followed him home.

Action/reaction, Cause and effect. If you can't control your remper tantrums you have issues and should not be allowed near anything more powerful than a drinking straw converted to spitwad launcher
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>>28333591
Yeah I'd like to see you or your other fuccboi friends try to take away someone's 2nd amendment rights away because they yelled at a dumb spic.
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>>28324042
it doesn't help that places like /k/ are filled with drooling mouth breathers

i never saw any retards while reading field&stream but holy cow we have them here in spades

fudd4life
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>>28315871
>Itt: fudd lore

I got an earful of it Christmas night. There was much fudding going on between a senpai friend and my uncle

>"Or you could get an M16 if you really wanted, those are .308."
>"I thought those were .223?"
>"Nope, they're .308, cuz I had one on a chain around my neck"
>insert unheard corrections from me

I'm just glad these two aren't like "HURR SEMI-AUTO IS FOR FAGS"
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>>28324717
found the manlet ahahahaha. It's hilarious watching you short guys at the gym
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>>28325924
>>"An M1 Garand is gonna dislocate your shoulder just from the recoil, kid!"
>mfw an M1 Garand is one of the lightest recoiling guns I've ever had the pleasure of using
Seriously, I think even my AK kicked more.
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>>28326160
>9mm
>penetrating anything above IIA
lol
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>>28321366

>has to call his pig buddy to fight his battles for him

Do you let that porker fuck your woman too?
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>>28326106
you're correct for one, how about that?
I guess the saying about broken clocks has some truth to it
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>>28328409
He looks hot.
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>>28333785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr6h44Pu4sM
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>>28333642
He shouldn't have his rights taken away, he should be jailed for inciting violence.

:')
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>>28324329

When he does it quickly he sweeps his ribs with the muzzle, chances are he's going to get shot.

Gun disarms are really, really hard to pull off. To get control of the gun, fight the guy now very pissed at you, avoid sweeping the muzzle over any part of you and get into a winning position? When your attackers just needs to keep pulling the trigger?

I've drilled these lots with training guns, i can't imagine how much more difficult it is with something that gors BANG in your heads and near your face.

t. Martial Arts Faggot
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>>28316873
>Kimber's 1911s are the things legends are made of and I can't wait to buy one

Do people actually say this around here?
Kimber's quality has gone to shit. Everyone knows it.
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>>28323675
>>grizzly bears can charge you even if you shoot them through the heart
this is true for any animal. when you shoot something through the heart its still often conscious long enough to run 30 yards or more. i imagine a grizzly could still hurt you pretty bad in 10 or 15 seconds of consciousness
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>>28322055

Top Kek

I know right? That bear is just hunting to survive. And that dude had better be close to a door, because that bear might be territorial over it's kill once it's dead. Though it probably took the deer with it after killing it.
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>>28324717
Git gud

t. LATech
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>>28322004
This racking shit needs to stop.
I was in academy and some cop was telling this woman who was buying a shotgun for home defense after her house was broken into that she "didn't even need to load the gun, just rack it and it will scare off the intruder. If that doesn't work rack it again." I walked over and told them both that bullshit will only get her killed.
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Went for a job interview for an armored car company

>you need a gun for this job
>no 1911s because a cocked hammer is unsafe
You do realize you have to grip the gun, take off the safety and pull the trigger before it'll fire right?
>no 1911s
How about a Browning Hi Power then
>yeah that's an approved gun
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>>28326319
No that's wrong. He thought .45 acp may be too much for police applications and wanted to make a new round but Europe had already fallen in love with 9x19 parabellum so he and Dugonne Saive who later made the FNFAL created the BHP. Sadly Browning died years before it was finished.
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>>28333787
Cop block pls go
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>>28324717
You look like a fit Bobby Hill
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>>28316201
Ol' Jethro there is hung like a telephone pole.
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>>28317071
Live in an apartment and use it. It will still penetrate but those little pellets lose a LOT of inertia much faster- both over distance and through drywall. Safer than anything larger in that environment.
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>>28319747
First time is always the hardest.
My first deer kill I hit it with a 308, shredded both lungs and nicked the heart but didn't kill it right away.
Made one deep stab in the throat and slit it across. Got hot blood sprayed all over me and the motherfucker looked me straight in the eyes until it died.
No kill I've made since then has bothered me in the slightest, but that one won't leave me.
I now refuse to go hunting without a sidearm.
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>>28316261
>bear kills deer in backyard
>shoot bear
>two free animals
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>7.62x54r is too small for elk!
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>>28335698
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>>28336065
All of my what. Smallest I'd go is 30.06 150-160 Grain.
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>>28319634
Could you conceivably jam a 7.62x39mm into an M14 and shoot it if you fed it single shot and by hand? Conscripts have done stupider shit
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>>28338318
I'd go with 180gr
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>>28338471
no, 0.311" bullet in a 0.308" barrel will maybe work once, but you may lose some pieces doing it.
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>>28324565
Throw bacon on their corpses man
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>>28324200
Why do people sporterize guns? Doesn't that decrease their value and make it so you can't hit the broad side of a barn?
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>>28333691
It's like you haven't seen the comment section of TTAG.
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>>28333778
>Seriously, I think even my AK kicked more.

>Take fud dad out shooting.
>Bring my AK, he has his .308.
>Can see him on occasion look at my gun.
>You know you want to.
>Come to the dark side, father.
>"Hey, that thing fun to shoot?"
>Hand gun over to dad, show him how to rack the bolt.
>No, you aren't going to hurt the gun racking it like that.
>Fires a mag off eventually.
>"This thing kicks too much."
>mfw those words came out of his mouth.
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>>28334451
GardaWorld? I bet it was GardaWorld. I was given that exact same explanation when I wanted to carry my 1911. Then the faggot vault supervisor started carrying his apendix in a cheapo holster and nothing was said because muh diversity hire.
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>>28321926
.22 has a great kill rate , many people get shot once and die from a .22 , they just die in the hospital. It's great against people who don't want to get shot , I m not sure id trust it against terrorists though
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>>28324817
Phone autocorrected. I replaced the handguard.
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>>28334029
>my first amendments rights don't apply to me because i said something that hurt your feelings

my rights don't end where your feelings begin
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Also
> M&Ps are for po-lice and mil-try only
> 2nd ammendment fer huntin
> muh carrying with a round chambered is bad
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>>28323397
I don't know what's funnier, the 3 head shots or that three people died with Ganga style playing in the background.
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>>28323450
Kek
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>>28339229
Just to be clear, I'm not saying an AK kicks at all. My friend's Garand was just that soft shooting.
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>>28323397
Wtf
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>>28316928
>>28316996

We've all had this argument before. Long story short, birdshot can indeed kill someone dead. But buckshot will always kill them deader than shit and far more reliably from many more angles. If you're fighting for your life, I know which one I'd want.
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>>28316261
Anybody watched The Revenant yet? The bear mauling scene in that was fucking horrific.
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>>28342798
If you're in an apartment and don't want to murder (or get sued by) your next door neighbors, bird shot is indeed an option. You can always shoot them again if they get up.
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>>28339327
Yep.
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>>28342937

Fuck, that was a gnarly injury.

Also feels like we should be further along than just screwing a metal rod into a ball joint and tying up some wire to tendons. Here's hoping 3D printing of titanium gets cheaper.
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>>28342937
holy shit
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>>28343637
I firmly believe that we would already have functional cybernetics if it weren't for pesky little things like "ethics".
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>>28315871
makarov is a good carry pistol.
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