Y'all niggas fucked.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text
Motherfucker. Merry Christmas to them, too.. assholes
>>28314294
>https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text
>thinking this will pass
So does this one get shot down before it makes it to vote, or does it get voted down? Literally 0 chance of this going through.
>>28314294
> to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited
Who in the FUCK?!
>Mr. Israel
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
>AK, AR banned
>Mini 14 and Mini 30 exempted
>>28314294
As if this load of utter retardation ever will pass
lmao
I hope it passes. I have a large collection of assault weapons and it would go up in value astronomically.
>To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
How the fuck is this constitutional and why aren't these people in prison for treason yet?
I'm seriously asking. How do we push back?
>>28314356
Beware of the beginnings.
Ha! No more scary grandpa guns for you.
>>28314294
>bans AR-15s by name
Yeah, this isn't passing.
Also, what's their fixation on barrel shrouds? It's just a piece of perforated metal around the barrel.
>>28314294
Is there a quick way to look up all the names on my phone and see if they represent my state?
>>28314390
What state?
>>28314354
>g-go back to /pol/...
Do you finally see now, you fucking idiots?
Do you finally see that /pol/ is, OBJECTIVELY, right?
On the bright side, this won't pass.
>>28314393
Alaska
back to muskets for you.
USA USA USA
>>28314367
The Day of the Rope rapidly approaches, brother.
Soon these treasonous politicians will face judgement from the end of a barrel of our guns.
>>28314398
None of the representatives from Alaska co-sponsored this bill.
>>28314401
On the plus side muskets aren't regulated at all in the US. Same can't be said for most European countries.
>>28314389
Because it's scary.
>>28314403
Yeah because that will go well for gun rights
>>28314395
>a bunch of autistic authoritarian naziboo 16 year olds are "objectively right"
>it's not that they just appreciate the right to own guns that links them to /k/ every now and again
>despite the fact they worship a fascist gun-grabber
go back to /pol/
>>28314405
Thanks, I figured but was still concerned.
Any way to track who votes yes on it on the fly?
>I'm sure my state reps won't, but it's a good idea to keep an eye on them.
>TFW one rep founded the machine gun club in my state
>And the Democrats and Republicans have shooting competitions to settle issues
Do these retards want to further discredit the gun control movement or something? Because that's all they've managed to do since 2013, and this is going to fall so hard on its ass that Beijing will probably feel it.
>>28314403
>>28314416
Honestly, the day Americans are pushed that far, is the day 'we mad max now'.
Why even write this bill when they fucking KNOW it can't possibly pass ever?
>>28314294
>definition of a semiautomatic assault rifle
>one of the following
>iv has a grenade or rocket launcher
U WOT M8
>>28314416
You forget that that was essentially how we got them in the first place.
>>28314430
Because they're petty cunts throwing a tantrum.
They'll cite bullshit gun death statistics then go "look at congress stonewalling our perfectly reasonable attempt at common sense gun control laws."
>>28314412
Not much is regulated in the US.
You are going to lose your gun rights in the next 10yrs. I am not saying this is a good thing, but sooner or later some cunt who knows what hes is doing is going to go mega ultra postal and that will be the end of that.
You have the same % of population gun ownership as Australia pre gun grab. They couldn't stop it. Neither will you, because the other side yells louder and everyone loves safety.
“(v) (1) It shall be unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a semiautomatic assault weapon.
what the fuck
>>28314419
hitler expanded gun rights though
>>28314446
Yeah but that was when you were equally armed against the people you were fighting.
Do you have drones with thermals? Wire tapping devices? Can you read all internet traffic. Fuck fighting the us government
>>28314450
>in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce
So as long as you never leave your state, it's fine.
>>28314294
>m107 listed under ar15 model
>so is the m82
>>28314449
>Not much is regulated in the US.
... Are you blind good sir?
>>28314449
Support for less gun restrictions is still rising, even with all the mass shootings. Australians saw mass shootings and thought they needed to ban guns. Americans saw mass shootings and thought they needed more guns to protect themselves.
>>28314444
Are you saying you don't have a side rail mounted rpg7 on your AR?
>>28314458
You forgot another thing.
America is made of engineers, we will have ied's after day one, our own internet and satalite network after 3 weeks, and we will be mass producing rpg's by the end of a month.
>>28314462
Relative to the rest of the world that isn't a 3rd world shit hole
>>28314458
Oh god. Not this argument again.
The us government is nothing without the military. The military are a bunch of patriotic rednecks with an asberger-ly high sense of right, wrong, and freedom. They will not fire on fellow Americans.
>>28314459
Nope...
Interstate commerce is code for a legal blank check.
The courts don't give a shit about what the law says or if you impact interstate commerce, anything/everything you do or don't do impacts it according to them.
>>28314294
well according to the exempt list we can have norinco's again...
>>28314464
Have they always been trying to push through these bills?
It seem they try this shit more and more often. Sooner or later Hillary will blow enough people and one will pass...
>>28314367
>How do we push back?
Use the 2nd amendment.
Some fuckwits in the House introduce bait legislation like this tripe at least once per year. They are pulling their puds so that they can say "they did something" to their constituents and get re-elected to lame duck some more.
Remember their names, vote against them and always sage.
>>28314294
They pretty much just read gun broker and put every gun on their into this bill, i think the only thing i haven't found yet is muzzleloaders
>grandfathered guns are illegal
Well fuck you too mr congressman
>>28314472
Also keep in mind the Egyptians overthrew their government just a couple of years ago and guns are COMPLETELY banned there.
Americans with even shotguns would easily be able to do the same.
Also this bill stands no chance. Won't even get voted on.
>>28314456
Not for the jews.
>>28314389
The thing that goes up?
>>28314472
I am not saying you can't fight them. Look at Afghanistan, Vietnam ect.
But most you guys will die and there will be so many laws you will have to sign a piece of paper just to wipe your ass
>>28314487
Feinstein has been trying for years. Keeps pushing the same shit without any revisions, as if it'll get through if she just keeps at it.
Hopefully she'll die before then.
>>28314354
/pol/ is always right
>>28314450
Semi auto assault weapon isn't even a real thing.
>>28314497
Ok for real, what is the part name the army used for it on an m14?
It's like the one part on a gun that has no name...
>>28314459
NO, NO THAT'S NOT FINE ANON. THAT IS NOT FINE.
IT'S NOT FINE.
>>28314500
"trying the same thing over and over and getting the same result is the definition of insanity"
didn't a gungrabber say this, isn't that now what they are doing?
>>28314502
You're thinking of assault rifle. Assault weapon is a made up term, so they can define it however they want.
>>28314502
the way they defined it it means: a rifle
>>28314500
But isn't there more from more people compared to like 20 yrs ago?
They have got shit through in the past, and that was without the media crying about ar15 ect
>>28314498
>there will be so many laws you will have to sign a piece of paper just to wipe your ass
At least toilet paper prices will plummet.
>>28314492
India did it with no weapons.
Weapons don't matter. % of population matters
A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
“(i) A pistol grip.
“(ii) A forward grip.
“(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
“(iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.
“(v) A barrel shroud.
“(vi) A threaded barrel.
Rocket launchers, ROCKET LAUNCHERS!
>>28314294
>Mr. Israel
You can't make this shit up.
We as a nation are all cucked to oblivion. Politicians are driving the freedoms we have into the ground. Fuck the consitution if it lets politicians and progressive liberals legally undermine the freedoms they are subverting every few hundred years.
>>28314541
Looks like mini 14's just got more popular.
Why the fuck no STANG mag idk
>>28314294
Seriously says it's infringing upon the second amendment in the first line of the bill. Assuming this shit gets passed we'll have a lot of new politicians by the end of the year.
Luckily it's pretty much got a 0% chance of going anywhere.
>>28314389
More thrust per squeeze.
>>28314389
AR-15 types including the following:
>Bushmaster ACR
Kek
>>28314294
I emailed my Senator and asked him to vote no on this.
“(46) The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.
Nigger what. Every gun has a grip ffs.
Finally found this damn thing...
>pic very related if this bill moves and especially if by some dark miracle it passes and the courts uphold it
>>28314395
Is that why /pol/ only comes here when they have shit to brag about? They are fucking idiots. This has no chance of passing.
>>28314294
>Representative Chellie Pingree from Maine co-sponsored
You fucking cunt.
>>28314450
Written with intent in a vague manner to be exploited later by revisionist judges.
>>28314294
>chance of passing
literally none unless theres a mass death of pro gun representatives in the near future.
>>28314449
research a little more before you post please.
We should all write to weapons manufacturers to not sell anything named in this bill to the government if it passes.
>>28314541
>capacity to accept
wouldn't that be most rifles?
pretty sure any tacticool stock would let you slap on folding stocks, pistol grips, forward grips and any other shit you wanted.
>>28314600
>>28314450
>Anything and everything Semiauto is banned.
>Illegal to Posses.
>Illegal to transfer.
Dear God. the people who wrote and sponsored this bill have gone full Ham.
>>28314674
>manufacturers passing up juicy govt contracts
Even less likely than this bill passing.
>semiautomatic rifle
>can attach a grenade launcher or rocket launcher
>or rocket launcher
What
Why don't they just try to ban all semi auto centerfires and skip this dancing around?
Even the SKS and Garand would get his with the language in this bill.
>>28314680
Barret Threatened to Cancel all Govt contracts if they banned .50BMG from Civilian ownership.
>>28314446
But we are a complete pussy of a country right now.
>what are civil liberties
I know for a fact faggots will point to the exemption list in the appendix and go:
> "hurr durr, look how many guns your allowed, are we not merciful!"
Why bother even listing shit like bolt actions as exempt when it's obvious that none of the shit listed applies to them anyway?
>>28314678
>the american people's collective faces even if this had a snowball's chance in hell of passing
how would they even begin to enforce this poorly written piece of toilet paper?
>>28314688
>>28314671
Wot?
>assault weapon
>shotgun with cylinder
Why?
>>28314456
>Not knowing about the Verordnung gegen
der Waffenbesitz der Juden
>>28314456
Only for people he liked
>>28314354
>>28314395
I somehow managed to find this.
http://jpfo.org/
And of course, whenever I try to post something about DA JOOS I get a connection error. Lovely.
>live in Alabama
>never write to my senators because I know how they'll vote anyway
>>28314733
did i get transported to a parallel universe?
>tfw your congressman is a cosponsor
Fug should I email him?
>>28314733
Those guys are fucking great. Speaking as the child of a suburban New York Jew, however, they are definitely a minority in the American Jewish world. Conversely, Israelis are pretty based.
>Banned by name list has Mini 14
>Exempt by name list has Mini 14
>>28314809
Yeah, ask him what part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" he doesn't understand.
>>28314812
>pic related
>>28314823
Also remind him violating his oath is a felony. I'd give you the code but I can never remember those of the top of my head. Google will help though.
>>28314784
WELCOME TO THE BERENSTAIN UNIVERSE
>>28314294
>https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text
>“(v) A barrel shroud.
>“(vi) A threaded barrel.
Bans:
>“(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
Hahahahaahha
Say goodbye to your 1911s, folks.
>firearms banned by name:
>Mini 14
>Firearms exempted:
>“Ruger Mini-14 (w/o folding stock)"
They can't possibly think a stock matters that much
>>28314366
Fuck off alex
>>28314493
>>28314720
You mean
>hitler expanded gun rights for everyone but worthless parasites who shouldn't own guns anyway
MAC gets hauled off to the camps, no more Tavor
Diane Shekelstein gets her CCW revoked and removed from office
>>28314690
That is such a god-tier thing of them to do imo. Wish more companies had that set of values
>>28314354
> Mr Israel
Are they even trying anymore?
>>28314809
I live in a New York suburb with a lot of Jews. Who's your rep?
>>28314863
>People I don't like don't get to have rights!
Kill yourself, you statist piece of human garbage.
>“Assault Weapons Ban of 2015”
>bans practically all modern firearms
This is a repeal of the Second Amendment. Civil War Mk.2 when?
>>28314885
I live in California. Mom was born and raised in White Plains and we see relatives once a year or so.
>A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following
Guess they didn't learn from California
>>28314912
Pretty much the moment it does anything other than die in committee. SHTF if it gets signed into law. Even worse if the supreme court rules in favor of it or refuses to hear the case.
They're just going to keep kicking the hornet's nest.
>>28314449
That's cause ausfags don't come from a culture of open rebellion and civil wars.
We burn this bitch down if you get us pissed
>>28314389
If it "makes guns better", it's on.
>>28314472
You forgot about over loading nuke power plants and bursting hydro electric dams. That added with a burning of grain crops before harvest and most of the country stops existing after 1 year
>>28314863
This stupidity is exactly why /pol/ needs to fuck off.
>>28314630
Are you surprised?
Ms. "at the end of the day.." god I hate our shitty fucking politicians
>>28314935
Nah. You guys are submissive as the rest of us. There won't be a civil war over guns. An uprising maybe, but it would be crushed in days.
To have a successful civil war you need an outside country supplying weapons and ammo, and no country is going to supply a bunch of hicks with weapons and ammo for their right to shoot tin cans on the weekend
>>28314294
Are "firearm" guns OK, such as the AIDS cannon?
Like:
No stock? Can't be shoulder fired=not a rifle/shotgun.
Two grips? Can't be fired one-handed=not a handgun.
+26" OAL? Not SBR/SBS/AOW
What is it? A firearm, not a rifle, pistol, shotgun, or NFA weapon.
>>28314968
Except Putin has said he'd do just that.
>>28314977
That he'd do what?
If you're implying what I think you are, that's awesome and I want a source
>>28314899
>>28314964
Pic related likely reason for such a ban.
>>28314774
>fellow bama /k/ommando
Feels good to be in #7 best gun state doesn't it?
>>28314977
When did Putin say that?
Also you want to own Putin something?
>>28314979
At the very least, he's said he would support and back a Texas secessionist movement. It's not a huge leap to assume he might help back another civil war.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/06/26/vladimir-putin-supports-texas-secession-movement/
>>28314989
>http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/06/26/vladimir-putin-supports-texas-secession-movement/
That's awesome.
>>28314968
Says the country that didn't have any mass shootings this year.
You cucks need to import dune coons for proper bullet rampages. 2 of the Fuckers tried that here and got shut down without scoring, that's how high level we are.
>>28314980
You really are delusional.
I'm running out of demeaning pictures.
>>28314999
Easier not too import them like us
>>28314477
The military won't be involved, they'll use foreign mercenaries if it comes to that, the military would be putting down uprisings in the UK, france or some shit where they don't care that much about the people.
>>28315017
Isn't that how UN Agenda 21 or something goes?
>>28314395
>Do you finally see that /pol/ is, OBJECTIVELY, right?
/pol/ isn't always right. They spew a lot of shit, but on occasion that shit condenses into a gold nugget.
>>28314927
It's no longer in Committee. It's been introduced into the house.
>>28314477
Police don't seem to have any problem shooting people.
Also they will just start a liberal militia
>>28315028
Oh boy... when did this happen? They're not keeping the page up to date yet it seems.
>>28314405
We have one representative and two senators.
>>28314899
>people I don't like
You mean the people whose shills committed us to a disastrous foreign policy in the Middle East for 60+ years?
Who regularly sell military secrets?
Who send money (that would have otherwise gone to American workers) to fund a state that has already received trillions in American aid and regularly acts counter to our national interests?
Who overwhelmingly vote for a party that seeks lenience for criminals, degenerates, and foreign invaders, while demonizing law abiding Americans?
>statist
That is only a legitimate insult if you're an actual anarchist/anarcho-capitalist. I oppose authority being given to incompetent and traitorous elements of our government, but support it for those that work for our interests and within the scope of their constitutional authority.
For example, I recently supported an increase in funding and a change in legislation favoring my local water department, because they have done an excellent job fixing what was previously an under capacity drainage system that regularly flooded farmland outside of town, and led to several washouts on local roads. Not to mention actually making their employees work for their pay and benefits, judging by how often my friend who works for them actually has to stay for his whole shift now.
>baw haw you're a nazi
I don't worship Nazi Germany, and I think Hitler was an ineffective leader outside of his role as a figurehead. However, I do consider them vastly superior to either the Weimar government, or the emasculated cultural Marxists that dominate today's Germany.
>>28315038
Wait, I'm an idiot.
Disregard what I said.
>>28314294
>banned by name: Hi Point 995 carbine, stock configuration Saiga rifles
>exempt by name: Ruger PC-9 and Marlin Camp Carbine, Ruger Mini 14
Wat? They have the Hi Point 995 banned by name when you can't get reliable mags over 10 rounds exempt by name guns for which the normal magazines hold over 10 rounds and do the exact same thing? Also why are stock configuration Saigas banned but Mini-14s not?
>1874 Sharps rifle listed as exempt by name
These idiots can't even ban guns effectively.
>Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.
Was wondering how long before I'd get to see something addressing slidefire stocks in as vaguely worded of a way as possible that would potentially allow bans on other shit in semi auto rifles such as match grade triggers.
I also see that they went back to specifying a gun has to use a detachable magazine to be considered an assault weapon and stopped including pump action rifles along with semi auto rifles.
>>28314450
>>28314491
>“(v) (1) It shall be unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a semiautomatic assault weapon.
>“(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession, sale, or transfer of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban of 2015.
Did you not read the next sentence before posting?
>>28314515
>all RIFLES will be BANNED
Please shut up, going and telling people that shit in hopes to get their support will only serve to push them away if they ever actually read about the bill and find out that they were being lied to by the pro gun side. It makes it seem like you're hiding something and the anti gun side actually has a reason for what they do.
>>28315060
>Also why are stock configuration Saigas banned but Mini-14s not?
Lobbying and politics, mostly
>BUY AMERICAN GUNS NOT RUSSIAN GUNS
I should probably pick up a VEPR in 7.62x54r and a Saiga in 7.62x39 just in case anything comes of this. I've been putting off buying those two guns for too long.
>>28315087
>I should probably pick up a VEPR in 7.62x54r and a Saiga in 7.62x39 just in case anything comes of this.
> mfw he thinks anything will come of this.
I mean, by all means buy your gun, but this isn't a good reason on it's own.
>>28314548
That's not what cuck means you stupid fucking nigger
![Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1971-038-54,_Revolution_in_Berlin,_MG-Posten_vor_dem_Schloss[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gDxEdfF.jpg "Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1971-038-54,_Revolution_in_Berlin,_MG-Posten_vor_dem_Schloss[1].jpg")
>>28314980
That picture is fucking bullshit. The photo shows seaman revolting in the Weihnachstkämpfe, because they weren't paid by the interim/unstable government in December 1918, also some valuable art went missing from the palais where they were stationed. So the government wanted to get them out and sent their own troops. For more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skirmish_of_the_Berlin_Schloss
It also didn't last a fucking year, there were parts of Germany were at different times there was fighting between Communist/Socialist versus Conservative/Royalist militias.
What the pic is referring to is the Spartakusaufstand in January 1919 which only happened in Berlin, there weren't 2 million people fighting and it wasn't initiated by the communist, they got surprised by it and tried to put it to their uses but got betrayed by the socialists in the end.
As for "teh juus did this": 4 of the most prominent members of the Spartacus League were Jews, the other 6 mentioned by Wikipedia weren't https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus_League
Plus, since Marx said the "religion is the opiate of the masses" and condemned it, it's questionable if any of them was really religious
>>28315034
a liberal militia? comprised of whom? top fucking kek college faggots Jew Yorkers and commiefornians fighting a significant portion of the us military. that will work out well
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_Firearms_Freedom_Act
I ain't even worried.
>>28315080
No, I would guess more because liberal nigger faggots saw wood stocked hunting rifles come up on google images for mini 14, but scurry black plastic for Saigas
>>28314690
And they did stop selling to California when they banned .50bmg
>>28315102
I really don't think anything will come of this.
It just validates my reason for buying more guns.
>>28315034
Police and military have incredibly different mentalities
>>28315006
That is not how you attack someone's argument.
>>28315108
This however, is an excellent reply to my post, good job.
>>28315110
Are you joking.
The left has a way way higher body count that the right in the last 100 years.
A war over guns will not have popular support.
>>28315087
This isn't like last time, this specifically says it will make owning and transferring said firearms illegal too, just in case you were thinking you were going to have the modern day equivalent of a transferable machine gun.
>>28315137
>“(v) (1) It shall be unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a semiautomatic assault weapon.
>“(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession, sale, or transfer of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban of 2015.
The own law contradicts itself.
>>28315126
So they use the the police to shoot you
>>28315042
Well said friend, it's time the firearms community began to understand the Jews are not our allies.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewvote.html
>>28314847
Dude, they're so fucking stupid they probably think the stock changes the mechanical function of the rifle.
>Other purposes
Is it time?
>>28314989
After this, and his recent support of Trump, I really am starting to like Putin
Great Northern Alliance when?
>>28315170
In my estimation, it's been time for a while now.
>>28314354
EVERY TIME
>>28314389
>>28315142
>>28315137
It is still grandfathering in firearms already owned. It is just not allowing grandfathered in weapons to be transferred after the date of enactment.
So you can keep your AR15, but you can not sell it, or otherwise transfer it. So when you die. Your grandfathered banned firearms have to be seized by the STATE and destroyed.
>>28314294
Thanks, just wrote my representative who cosponsored this bill.
>>28315135
>war over guns wont have popular support
except it will anywhere but the left coast and northeast. not to mention a fuckhuge percentage of the US military are like foaming at the mouth right wing fanatics and the more "elite" and combat oriented the unit the more white and rightwing its members.
>>28315205
ATF could interpret this vaguely written POS either way and I guarantee you they will go the way of buttfucking us.
>>28314294
I can't wait for society to finally collapse so we can just start hanging these fuckers.
>>28315205
So basically if it looks like this were to ever be enacted (which it won't), transfer all of your firearms to your NFA trust so that they can easily be passed down for generations.
>>28314977
AK-100s and Pechenegs when? Shit, I hope they pass something now.
>>28315224
ATF is full of incompetents. They have not approved pistols for import. Simply because they could not figure out how to reassemble them after field stripping.
>>28314294
Sponsor: David N. Cicilline, Democrat, RI
"Cicilline was born July 15, 1961, in Providence, Rhode Island. His mother, Sabra (née Peskin), is Jewish...."
How can they keep getting away with it?
>>28314367
www.RipOffReport.com
File one, put the name of the traitor/tyrant in the title.
Then sit back and in a few weeks to a few months, when someone Googles "Congressman so-and-so" your RipOffReport should show up on the 1st page.
These cocksuckers HATE negative press like this that appears on the 1st page of Google and Google gives huge, un-natural weight to a RipOffReport.
Don't believe me? Go there and find the name of any given business that has had a RipOffReport filed on it. Pop the name of that business into Google and watch how the RipOffReport shows up on page 1 for a Google search for their name.
: )
>>28315247
Hitler screwed everything up.
>>28315146
Except the police force has nowhere near enough manpower or resources to attempt nationwide disarmament
>>28315219
People may agree with you. But how many people will be willing to die just so they can keep buying ARs and AKs
Hi. Im British but I see how much you yanks love guns and I completely understand defending yourself from government tyranny.
But if you guys roll over and just let them take your guns, then you're all fat faggots.
>>28315259
Riverine anon here. I'd have no problems with dying for my rights.
Eat a dick.
>>28314294
>Sponsor: Rep. Cicilline, David N. [D-RI-1] (Introduced 12/16/2015)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cicilline
>He previously served as Mayor of Providence, Rhode Island from 2003 to 2011, and was the first openly gay mayor of a U.S. state capital.[3][4]
>Cicilline was born July 15, 1961, in Providence, Rhode Island. His mother, Sabra (née Peskin), is Jewish,
>Religion: Jewish
Gay Jewish Democrat.
For once, I'd like /pol/ to be fucking wrong.
>>28315253
You think it couldn't be expanded if it had too be. Plus they are not looking to disarm, just to ban future sales
>>28315259
I don't even own guns and I would be the first person to sign up to fight our Federal oppressors.
>>28315259
Hey, no one lives forever. I can think of worse things.
>>28315271
You would be the small minority. Most people just want to live an easy life, get married, have kids, pay mortgage, retire, die at a ripe old age
>>28315294
>live an easy life
>have kids
>>28314389
I can only assume its ignorance about what features enhance a firearms lethality. The assault weapons bans fixated on cosmetic bullshit like this and thus only succeed in pissing off gun owners. Limiting semi-automatic long-arms to 10 round fixed magazines is only part of this bill with substance.
>>28315112
Based fucking Schweitzer. Its things like this that make me sad I moved to chicago for school.
>>28315292
No shit, I'm the idiot trying to get into Syria
I am also one of the few ready to die for something. But we are the small minority
These bills come every few months and never go anywhere. There have been a few more since Sandy hoax.
>>28315278
>Plus they are not looking to disarm
Yes they are, that's what a fucking ban is.
>>28315294
Wars are not won by the majority.
>>28315278
Banning future sales always leads to disarmament. Fuck justifying this, anyone tries to take my shit and I'm boarding the race war van and driving to DC
>>28315313
Ok fair enough, but they are not going to go into your house and take your guns.
>>28315273
A broken clock is still right twice a day.
>>28315152
>>28315294
>having kids
>easy life
Pick one
Coming from the military, most of us combat oriented troops are pro-freedom on an autistic level. I'd say I have a bit more of an idea as to who's going to be fighting than you do, faggot.
>>28315325
No, not yet. However, it is the logical "next step."
>>28315322
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>>28315337
Who says I wasn't in the military?
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>>28315328
/po/ is always right.
>>28315294
there were only a few thousand insurgents active in Iraq at the height of the war. you don't need 50% of the population to actively fight you just need a few hundred die hards in each state and moral support from a sizeable minority or small majority of the civilian populace.
>>28315294
>You would be the small minority
Maybe a minority, but not that small. There are a good amount of people willing to die to keep this country from becoming tyrannical, but the point at which they are willing to stand up and fight is different for each person. I guarantee if there was ever a hint of changing any other ammendment, most of the population would be rebellious. And then they'd see why the 2nd was so important.
>>28315271
>I'd have no problems with dying for my rights
But you should. You should have great problems with dying for your rights. You should find dying for your rights incredibly problematic.
Don't die for your rights. Make them die for your rights.
>>28315294
Spoilers: Most people are also cowards.
>>28315351
The difference is America can leave Iraq.
They can not leave America
>>28315270
That's mighty talk coming from a guy that can't buy kitchen utensils without a passport
>>28315352
>I guarantee if there was ever a hint of changing any other ammendment, most of the population would be rebellious
Libtards at Yale wanted a repeal of the 1st Amendment and protested for it, recently.
Using the 1st Amendment to protest the 1st Amendment. This is the state of modern leftist politics. With people this crazy, why should anyone listen to them on guns, or any other topic for that matter
>>28315358
This is true. I have a feeling most people on here a full of shit
>>28315360
>they
The politicians and liberals who are pushing this certainly can
In body bags
>>28315273
And where do you think these Jewish congressmen/women are getting their marching orders from?
http://american3rdposition.com/?p=12767
List of 100's of US politicians who were FIRST Israeli citizens, THEN became a US citizen.
Wow, such a disproportionate amount of Israeli jews run our government.
>>28315384
Just like in the civil war huh
>>28314294
I don't understand the point of this bill. An assault weapons ban gives gun owners no tactical advantages whatsoever.
>>28315396
I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
>>28315360
who cannot leave? for one the feds wouldn't even have anyone to seize guns with in the first place. the LE agencies are too small, the military would have an astronomically desertion rate especially from active duty combat arms units ie units actually worth a fuck. and literally no one but nofunz college kids, and women large cities on the coasts would support repealing the 2nd.
>>28315271
Big words. But your rights to own FA weapons are already being infringed. Why not do something about that one, tough guy? Are you waiting for AR bans, or universal confiscation? Don't delude yourself into thinking you'll turn into some badass hero when a ban goes into effect when you're not doing SHIT about the existing ones.
>>28315414
That you would have no chance if your government turned on you
>>28315294
Keep in mind a small minority of gun owners still likely outnumbers the entire US military. And I do mean the ENTIRE US military, from the most useless desk jockey to the most badass SOF we have to offer.
Fun part is many of those SOF guys, including a bunch of Green Berets, Rangers, Force Recon, and a bunch of other notable groups full of badasses.
How small a minority are we talking here? How about the now infamous 3%. Using a low estimate from early 2014 (it's higher now guaranteed) of 75,000,000 that 3% comes out to 2,250,000. If wikipedia's numbers are to be at all trusted the US military, active and reserve comes out to ~2,212,000. They're outnumbered by nearly 40,000.
>>28315435
lol
>>28315435
the government enforces it laws with people. specifically the military and you clearly fail to realize the demographics that make up combat arms in the military
If one percent of gun owners rebelled and killed one police officer each. America would run out of law enforcement officers before it ran out of rebels.
>>28314449
You lost your fucking guns 'cause of a black ops m8.
>>28315430
Nobody's going to admit they have unregistered giggleswitches on an anonymous anime imageboard.
>>28315368
>Libtards at Yale wanted a repeal of the 1st Amendment and protested for it, recently.
Yeah and everyone thought they were literal retards for it.
> With people this crazy, why should anyone listen to them on guns
Agreed. I don't understand why they can't just get team of experts to help them when it comes to talking about guns and writing legislature about them. Fucking google it or something. The amount of easily fixable ignorance by some people baffles me.
But all in all, I'm not worried about gun bans. Or, at least this one.
>>28315437
The military is organised, trained, have better shit and most importantly have more ammo. What are you going to do? Fire from your mother's basement with your buddy from down the street?
>>28315060
>Please shut up, going and telling people that shit in hopes to get their support will only serve to push them away if they ever actually read about the bill and find out that they were being lied to by the pro gun side. It makes it seem like you're hiding something and the anti gun side actually has a reason for what they do.
The included definition of assault weapon pretty much includes all automatic (classic definition of automatic) rifles.
>Assault weapons would include the following for rifles:
- detachable magazine + ability to use a 'pistol' grip (
- detachable magazine + rails in front of grip (ability to accept forward grip)
- detachable magazine + ability to accept a non-fixed stock
- detachable magazine + ability to remove the stock
- detachable magazine + rails (ability to accept grenade launcher)
- detachable magazine + (pretty much) anything insulative on the barrel
- detachable magazine + ability to insulate the barrel (literally any/every gun)
- detachable magazine + ability to change barrels (ability to accept a threaded barrel)
- rifles with more than 10 rounds, except tube magazine rimfire .22 rifles that can only use .22 rimfire
- trigger groups with a shorter length of pull or reset (part/s that let you operate a semi-auto faster)
- trigger groups that can be made to have a shorter length of pull or reset (part/s that can be made to let you operate a semi-auto faster)
>Assault weapons would include the following for pistols:
- detachable magazine + ability to change barrels (ability to accept a threaded barrel)
- detachable magazine + abiltiy to accept a second grip (rails)
- detachable magazine + abiltiy to accept anything on the barrel that isn't the slide
- detachable magazine + abiltiy to accept anything that can hold a magazine
- detachable magazine + abiltiy to accept a semi-auto firearm (wut??? no m26???)
- fixed magazine + ability to accept more than 10 rounds
>to be cont:
>>28314294
Motherfucker. If this shit passes I'm fucking off to Rojava
>>28315440
You should totally try this. What could possibly go wrong
Man this just bums me out.
>>28315467
your dum
>>28315483
In Iraq now, border is a no go, was there yesterday. Turkish jets everywhere. You could see their vapour trails doing circles just inside the Turkish border(crossing is right up near Turkey Iraq Syria. Will try and find the yazadi militia while I wait for turkey to fuck off
>>28315467
first off no I would *disclaimer* **hypothetically** use ieds mostly. kinda like oh idk Iraqi alqiada and the Mahdi army, second the military would hae entire units fucking off with weapos and equipment in this scenario. its not a coincidence that timothy McVeigh and terry Nichols were ex mil. those kind of politics are by a long shot the majority in combat arms units. which are also by a long shot made up of white southerners and Midwesterners
>>28315467
This is bollocks. Look at the troubles and see how much hassle the IRA caused.
Think of how much damage Afghan/Iraqi/Syrian insurgents caused then imagine if they were sentient white people.
>>28314598
Your doing the right thing anon.
>>28315467
>have better shit
>built by the cheapest bidder
ok bubs. I know they have armor and aircraft, but for the most part, civilian gear and small arms are better quality, newer, and better maintained.
>>28315417
>the military would have an astronomically desertion rate
When will this lie stop being repeated? Militaries have historically almost NEVER had a problem with suppressing and killing their own citizens, especially in the US. In the US we have our own fine record of the US army wholeheartedly cooperating in the killing and unlawful detainment of citizenry.
>Battle of Blair Mountain
>Bonus Army conflict
>Japanese-American internment
Plus, don't forget how easy it is for the US govt to make the public and soldiers forget about inconvenient things like morals and laws when the word 'Terrorism' is thrown in. Call dissenters domestic terrorists, and with the media supporting the narrative, it won't fail. You won't even need false flags attacks, when the rebels will be assassinating elected officials, police, and sabotaging infrastructure.
>>28315474
Still doesn't ban anywhere near all rifles like you claim, and trying to get people who are on the fence on your side by lying to them is always a great way to push them to the other side when they find out you're lying.
>>28315506
You can still fly straight to Erbil, then travel through Kurdish Iraq, and cross the border at Semalka. You'll have to have some bribe money, and convince them that you are there to help them fight for their freedom, but if you can do that they'll let you through.
>>28315460
>too pussy to admit to wrongdoing on the internet
>brave enough to fight against the US govt
Do you even read what you are typing?
>>28315347
Then I don't know what pussy piece of shit unit you were in to come out this spineless
>>28315500
*you're
>>28315513
I am not saying they couldn't do anything if they wanted too, I am saying nothing will actually happen because not many people will be willing to die for the right to have 30 rounds in their mags. Nothing happened when fully autos were banned, nothing happened when Clinton banned assault weapons.
People talk the talk, but mostly they are pussys
>>28315536
You can't fight a revolution if you're in jail.
>>28315474
>>28315060
>Assault weapons would include the following for shotguns:
- non-fixed stock
- ability to remove the stock
- a 'pistol' grip
- ability to use a detachable magazine
- forward grip
- rails (ability to accept grenade launcher)
- shotgun revolvers
-
>Assault weapons would include the following:
- too much shit listed by name to bother listing by name
- copies of shit listed by name
- variants of shit listed by name
- functional similar designs to shit listed by name
- anything belt fed
- parts used to make anything listed above
- receivers/frames for anything above
So no I'm not lying. It includes pretty much anything that is semi-auto. Considering almost all guns have rails, detachable barrels, and can have the barrel duct taped...
>>28315523
lol that shit is fine against leftists and brown people you think pfc snuffy and sgt shmucaktelli who have fucking ss flags in their barracks would be fine with killing a white American rightwing uprising? lol no faggot
>>28315523
>>Battle of Blair Mountain
>>Bonus Army conflict
cops, whom are known for being statists
>>Japanese-American internment
in a time where niggers still had to use different restrooms
get over it redneck faggots. no one needs a fucking assault rifle to defend ur house. Get real. You would prolly be able to keep the guns you have now anyway, get over it fucking redneck fucktards.
>>28315522
Wars are won with armour and aircraft. No war was won because someone had a fancier rifle
>>28314354
Every.single.time
>>28315511
IEDs targeting power stations, factories belonging to the military industrial complex, and fuel refineries would quickly cripple the US military. The US military is entirely dependent on a massive industrial base and supply chain here in the US, that is very lightly defended. We've never had to fight a ground war here since the Civil War, so all the infrastructure the military relies on is almost wholly undefended. There's a big national guard depot, and an ammunition plant belonging to General Dynamics in my hometown, and both are guarded by no more than a 2-6 men. An insurgency could completely fuck up soft targets like these and significantly weaken government power.
>>28315430
>implying I'd say if I had full-funs on a Chinese cartoon image board
You're a special kind of stupid. It's almost like I don't have to prove anything to you because I know me better than you do :^)
>>28315534
The border is locked. Should be good to go in a week or so. I will hold up till then
>>28315547
>So no I'm not lying. It includes pretty much anything that is semi-auto.
Then say semi auto instead of all rifles.
>>28315545
But you can plan one. How do you think most of the command structure of ISIS met and planned shit out? They did it from Abu Ghraib and Camp Bucca.
>>28315541
I'm not American, I am how ever in Iraq. I am such a pussy coming here
>>28315559
Then why are we not winning in Afghanistan? :^)
>>28315587
You could have won
