Why is Iran considered such a threat?
>>28293629
Because kikes.
Saudis and Israelis consider them a threat and the US is a slave to their local interests
What happened to the Shahs money after he fled?
>>28293629
Not even /pol/, but it's because Israel considers them a threat.
something something israel second shoah iranian-bomb saudi something
>>28293629
>we can have nice things, and our friends can have nukes
>nobody else an have nukes, that would undermine world peace
>they....they can't be trusted...unlike us
>forget we are the only ones to nuke anybody, those were different times
>>28293704
>70 years ago isn't a different time
>>28293712
>>28293704
it was the ONLY time, not different time
and let's face it, US stopped nuking things, only because others got the bomb as well
>>28293629
Regional and strategic interests and a lingering image of the hostage crisis. And while that image doesn't exactly paint a pretty picture, I would at least list Lebanon and to a degree Iraq on the Iranian side. Not as big a list, but no one's hands are completely clean in that region. Personally I'd like us to cut ties with the Saudis as soon as we get more oil independent.
>>28293704
>they can't be trusted, unlike us
That's generally a true statement. It is obviously beneficial for us to hold several assets that monumentally increase our force projection while our potential adversaries are not. Also yes WW2 was a different time.
>>28293724
We came damn close on several occasions.
>>28293629
op's picture is missing afganistan in 1970's as us was funding, arming and training taleban against soviet union.
you yanks never learn.. every us war in last 40 years have been cleaning up their own mess
>>28293629
>iran on the list 3 times
Why do they make america hate them? Why do they hate america?
>>28293629
They're not, but because lolMuslimstate, "we" think they're hellbent on fucking with the US/allies.
>Yeah, yeah, anti-Israel rhetoric.
>There's more anti-Israel rhetoric on /pol/ than in Iran.
>>28293629
I dont get that chart. Is it implying the USA did those things to those countries? And Iran somehow has never interfered in another country since WWII?
Iran has fought multiple wars with Iraq, conflicts with Afghanistan, maintains a proxy state in Syria for gods sake, supports terrorism and extremist militias through the Levant, carries out political assassinations in the Gulf states, stirs up ethnic conflict in Indonesia of all places and wages a cold war against the US and Israel. And that's just off the top of my head. Iran is hardly a benevolent pacifist actor.
>>28293836
That graphic is some kind of liberal "we duh bad guys" thing. Pay it little mind.
>>28293836
How do you imagine Iran has supported conflicts in Afghanistan?
>>28293835
Im not sure aetting the anti Isreal bar at /pol/ levela ia great.
May as well go at least every second word wasnt about how hitler was right and the jews should be puwasnt
Just setting a low bar mate.
>>28293810
>cleaning up their own mess
While a lot of what we did in the Cold War was underhanded dirty shit, it still had the intended effect when the USSR went down. Also the Taliban did not exist until after the Afghan civil war and was a Paki creation.
>>28293818
Crack open a history book, or just use google.
>>28293913
The Iranians funded Shia Mujahideen during the Soviet-Afghan War, and then after the war when the Sunni Taliban came into power Iran came very fucking close to invading multiple times. Then when we went in after 9/11 Iran actually worked with us for a short time in the initial invasion by aiding popular revolts against the Taliban. Then in the long run some shit happened and there may have been times when they sent shit to the Taliban, but its all rather confusing. At the moment even if they don't like us, they do not want the Taliban back in power if it means a large militant Sunni neighbor that's a Paki proxy.
>>28293704
>wanting anymore nuclear powers in the world
>BBBBBUT WHO CARES THAT THEY SIGNED THE NPT IT DOESNT MATTER ITS CURRENT YEAR YOU DUMB KAFFIR
Would it be possible for Iran to declare peace with Israel and the US?
Also, if Iran actually had nuclear weapons, wouldn't some form of MAD that exists between Pakistan and India spring with Israel and Iran? Would that be true peace to the middle east? The CIA stopped (Truly) fucking around with China and other countries once they developed nuclear weapons.
Reminder that Iran wants nuclear weapons because, in part, they see how much slack / aid we give a quasi terrorist government in Pakistan that actively undermines our interests because we are afraid of their regime collapsing and the nukes getting in the hands of terrorists.
>>28294245
To clarify the last line should read "in the hands of the crazy, irrational jihadi terrorists"
>>28294242
>peace
Immediately, no. The US and Israel would be so skeptical of the idea any proposal would probably anoint to Iran losing sovereignty over its borders, like massive inspections by foreigners of its military installations.
The with a republican congress/ president definitely no. They passed a bill called "Justice for victims of Iranian Terror Act" to kill the nuclear deal. It basically said that Iran has to pay a sum of roughly 2/3 or something similar if its annual GDP in compensation to the (US) victims of its attacks over the years in exchange for any sanction relief. BTW that includes sanctions allowing it to do business with American banks, so there is no legal way for them to even compensate the victims.
>>28293629
They are an irrational actor seeking nuclear weapons. Because of the Islamic Republic's radical ideology, MAD may not apply to them.
That makes Iranian nukes with delivery capability very problematic.
Plus, even if they don't use the nukes it will still trigger and arms race in the Middle East, and inevitably lead to either a massive war between the Sunni's and Shi'a with nuclear potential, or nukes fall into extremist hands.
>>28293629
It is of great interest to keep the Iranians down because they and the Saudis don't like each other and the USA sucks the dribbling oil of out Saudis cocks. Also what israhell says is what America does, ultimate cucklord.
Last time they mined the strait of Hormuz we rekt their navy with impunity.
We cannot smash the navy of a nuclear armed Iran with no fucks given so this gives them the opportunity to blockade the strait of Hormuz with impunity.
>>28294314
So when did you make the decision to start exclusively shitposting?
>>28294361
Around the same time as you apparently
>can't refute anything I say ever
Must feel like shit to be so dumb
>>28293729
And I came close to your mother, but that doesn't make you my son.
>>28293629
they sided with Russkis. Russkis fuckt around middle east from start. Pitted the Arabs against the Israelis and they faild horribly. Russkis have done every thing they could get the West out of middle east.
Now Iran sides with russia once again. The frend of my enemy is my enemy.
Iran is not the goal just a pawn in game of global buttfucks.
Get your asses ready for a ride to be remembered in history!
WW3 HERE WE COME!!!!!
>>28294361
A better point would be that a sanction free Iran would be a huge economic competitor to Saudi and Israel, due to not only its vast oil reserves but also educated and pretty modern workforce, on top of being situated in an amazing geographical location to facilitate east-west trade. Even within the nuke program we would find reason to sanction them on behalf of the Saudis and Israelis.
Oran's seeking a nuke is actually pretty rational. Israel has nukes, as does Pakistan. The arms race is already there. Plus, look at the way the US treats Pakistan with aid and kiddy gloves even though they have aided anti-us terrorists just as much, if not more than, Iran, especially since 9/11.
There is no reason Iran can't be our friend, despite their state religion. Just look at Saudi, they are even more extreme than Iran. The thing is if they develop they might not be our allies, or even enemies. But Israel and (technically) Saudi are our allies now, and Iran a convenient boogeyman. It's better to keep the status quo than risks it on a "reward" (a developed and neutral-friendly Iran) that may or may not happen or even pay off of it does.
Just woke up so not sure how clear that is.
>>28294396
>Just woke up
it's clear that you need more coffee. one doesn't just go on /k/ and start making rational posts. away with you.
didnt iran go to war with iraq in the 80s? and oman for the dhofar rebellion? plus the clashes with the US navy in 87 and 88
>>28293913
they directly supported the northern alliance against the taliban
>>28293629
because Israel
>>28293629
Love how this list includes wars we were in but neglects the Iran-Iraq war for Iran's side
Ali Khamenei about the "Death to America" slogan
"Obviously by 'Death to America', we don't mean death to the American people. The American nation is just like the rest of the nations. It ... means death to U.S. policies and its arrogance"
Also, with the normalization of US-Iran relation, Iran is looking at a "neutral, trade-based relation that would be beneficial to everyone" and would limit "superficial investments which only seeks one-sided profiteering". So that means no McDonalds, Starbucks or Burgerking...at least, not one every 3 building blocks (I imagine they would still permit a couple of those in CBD areas)
>>28293836
Iran has cells of operatives in Argentina of all fucking places.
>>28295827
Why don't they just banned them outright?
>>28293629
Because it want to sell OIL in not dollars
>>28293836
lol this
But you won't hear about that in anti-mainstream media propaganda like the picture in the OP.
He a good boy!
He didn do nothin!
>>28293629
Is that a fucking Occupy logo in the bottom Left? get that crap outta here.
>>28293836
Why Indonesia?
>>28294367
Ohhhhh
>>28293629
>implying Iran wouldn't be bombing the shit out of countries they didn't like if they had the means to.
>>28293836
>multiple wars with Iraq
>geopolitically relevant at the present
>supports terrorism
that generally is not targeted at the US
>Syria
>Iranian proxy
lolno
>wages a Cold War against US
They certainly spy on us less than Israel :^)
>>28297267
>implying that doesn't apply for 80% of countries in the world
>>28293629
Looking at that list, wouldn't you say they were about due?
>>28295829
They just want to find the magical Argentinian formula that makes Brown people pure 100% aryans.
Someone should tell them the bad news.
>>28293958
>Crack open a history book, or just use google
Why don't you fucking tell him since you come off as such a know it all? Don't people like you bask in the joy of telling someone how smart you are?
>>28297929
>he hurt my feelings, that's what's important
>please spoonfeed me
>>28293629
Its like you don't understand why we are known as the Holy American EMPIRE.
>>28297753
Which never happens thanks to the US bombing them first.
>>28293629
Israel has America on a lease, and they hate Iran
>>28293638
It's IRAN, dumb fuck.
>what is offensive realism
If Iran and the US switched places (in terms of power) then Iran would act in the same manner.
>>28293629
Because, unbeknownst to the retard who made the original image, Iran has been in a state of war with the US since 1979 and is THE bankroller of Shia terrorism anywhere in the world. Plus there's the whole shit storm that will ensue from Iran getting nukes; every nation in the region will want to get them.
Anyone who thinks Israel controls the US is a moron. If anything Iran is actually what /pol/ thinks Israel is. Israel's a small, not particularly wealthy nation that yet is strategically important for a variety of reasons geographically and economically.
>>28293629
>Syria, Israel, Iraq not on there
I'm not pretending the US doesn't do shady shit but the Iranians hands are FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR from clean.
>>28298039
Look at this retard. Look at him and laugh
>>28298039
pretty shitty bait t,b.h[
>>28293638
Thread/
>>28293629
LOL
>THAT GROUP WE SENT TO BOMB, SABOTAGE, AND OVERTHROW WASN'T CALLED IRAN, SO WE ARE PEACEFUL
dumb niggers
>hezbollah
>Houthis
>Katib Hezbollah
>JAM
>AAH
>Badr Organization
These are all Iranian controlled entities, proxies of the IRGC. Just because they dont fight under an iranian flag (in most cases), doesnt mean they dont take orders from Soleimani.
