Norwegians and Danes like to talk themselves up, as if they were on the same level as the Anglo armies (UK, Canada, Australia and the US) and less like the pussy continental ones (principally Germany, Italy and Sweden), but in reality, they are insignificant.
>>28242183
>US
>Anglo
lol
>>28242183
So I take you are from the UK and some scandic took away your girlfriend?
>>28242187
More anglo than the UK currently.
>>28242183
>Australia
>Good level army
Choose one.
>Germany and Italy
>Pussy armies
Choose one.
>Implying only Anglophone armies are good.
Dude, go and get yourself a brain.
>Bait.
It took me 1 sec to tell you're just a fucking troll.
>>28242196
>40% mexican vs 30% mudslime
>>28242200
Australia defeated the Vietcong, which is more than any European country can claim.
>Implying only Anglophone armies are good.
That was the experience in Afghanistan. The only non-useless non-Anglos were the French
>>28242196
qué?
>>28242200
>>28242211
>Australia defeated vietcong
This is why Vietnam has been an capitalist and free country since 1976
>>28242212
>jajaja we made your country as shitty as ours jajajaja
This is an accomplishment to them.
>>28242200
>knowing it's bait
>still taking the bait and getting mad
>>28242218
Different guy but they handled jungle warfare better than us.
>Capitalist
They went the way of China when the Cold War ended, Vietnam opened up to Capitalism in order to preserve their political structure.
>>28242183
Why are you posting an /int/ level shitposting thread?
>>28242183
Danes were actually bretty gud in the stans.
Dont know about the wegians tho
Germanys pre decent too.
>italy
>warfighting
Pick one.
>>28242200
>implying italy did not jump ship from axis soon as shit started going bad TWICE!
>implying long tan was a flook
>implying implications
>>28242654
>>28242664
You fucks could've just let this thread fade into oblivion, why did you have to post?
Norwegian here. Not sure what you mean by being on the same level. Everyone knows we have much smaller numbers. But we think our training and equipment is on the same level when it comes to the enlisted personell.
Obviously it's unfair to compare a norwegian conscript to, let's say a royal marine who has been in service for a few years because a conscript only serves one year and then he leaves. But I have no problem comparing a conscript to a conventional anglo soldier who has less than a years experience in the military.
>>28242201
US is 62% white but ok
>>28242183
It's the dutch and italians that were fuckwits.
>>28242654
>Dont know about the wegians
we have a very good reputation in the international community
I don't mean from shitposters on /k/, but military personell that actually worked with our troops irl
>>28242211
How'd the Poles do?
>>28242685
What's wrong with the dutch? I'm not saying their military isn't insignificant, but why are they fuckwits?
>>28242730
It's some meme or something that they fucked up hard innastan. There was a good thread where some anon explained why it's bullshit and mostly related to shit that happened before they got there and ROE.
>>28242833
Ah thanks for clearing that up m8
>>28242201
>30% mudslime
The mudslime population in the UK is >10%
Fair enough, London and Birmingham are chock-full of them, but the rest of the country is like 80-90% white.
>>28242869
What about Bolton?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcuWqw2tT8
>>28242833
Also, a big part of why the Dutch got a shitty rep was to do with their government deciding to pull out early as well.
Interesting story: they did so partially out of disgust that the US and AUS were protecting / utilising the militia of a fellow named Matiullah Khan, who was not only involved in Northern Alliance atrocities but was well connected within the government and heavily involved with the heroin trade. I'm talking vast fields of opium.
But we needed him. His men provided us (Ausfag here) with base security and we trained them to be even more effective fighters. Who cares if he was a drug lord?
The Dutch, apparently.
>>28242227
>caring about anything but your immediate town
What are you, gay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61CruCxdsvA
Clearly, the best nordic military is Funland's
>>28242201
To be fair, true Mexicans are 50% indigenous and 50% white, so we should get a 20% credit applied to that.
>>28242183
Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8. Y so mad tho?
>>28242891
Dutch military has a shitty rep even among the dutch (maybe even shittier than other countries view them)
Public opinion in the netherlands is mostly that the Dutch should not have gone to Afghanistan or Iraq. Add to that some shit that appeared in the papers about dutch military shouting "bang" instead of practicing with live rounds, and you have most dutch people regarding their own military as a joke, an american puppet who just go along with it to feel relevant. Also a lot of dutch citizens are about as anti-war as it gets so I don't really see this changing anytime soon.
>>28242878
87.2% white at the last census in 2011.
Number of Indians and Pakistanis in Bolton was higher than the national average (6.1% Indian, 2.5% Paki) but assuming all the Indians are Muslims as well as the Pakistanis there'd still only be about 2,500 of them in a population of nearly 27,000 and I'll bet they all live in that one part of town.
>>28243003
>Add to that some shit that appeared in the papers about dutch military shouting "bang" instead of practicing with live rounds
They (used to) shout 'peanut', which is also an offensive word for Indonesians.
>>28242683
But that's counting all of the Spics.
In reality it's more like 40% White.
>>28242183
Sure they do OP, sure they do.
>>28243162
Lol, really? I didn't know that. I'm dutch and I call my Indonesian friends pinda all the time, they don't seem too bothered by it.
>>28243003
In modern times, the Dutch military had a glorious reputation, as a result of their heroic action at Srebrenica
>>28243179
Apparently, Indonesians shouted peanut the loudest. This is all second hand experience, though. And I think they now say 'pang'.
>>28243168
Non-white is also concentrated in big cities and California
>>28243175
>>28242996
>assrumpled Dane
Make all the documentaries you want, you will never top the performance of 3 PPCLI
>>28243187
nice, in a few years we might be ready for the full auto vocal assault "ratatatat"
Swedish military is pretty alright in terms of soldier and equipment quality, the low budget just means it's not very big. They did fine in Afghanistan
>>28243236
>They did nothing in Afghanistan
>>28243236
>wearing a burka
Could Sweden be any more cuck'd ?
>>28242664
>Italy was a central power
>Doesn't know about the ISR
Please kill yourself. We may be shitty fighters, but not pussies.
One thing is true: you're retarded.
>>28243312
What the hell does the puppet state ISR have to do with anything?
>>28243327
Italy didn't switch sides, it broke up into a pro axis and pro allies states
>>28243232
oorlogs clowns? wat is het volgenden zwarte peiten in de speciale eenheden?
>>28242211
Fun fact, wanna look into what country sent in people before to Vietnam the war started?
>Norwegians
>>28243548
>wanna look into what country sent in people before to Vietnam the war started?
But has Norway ever been so far as to want to do to look more like?
FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
>>28243168
This is untrue US is 62% white not counting Hispanics who describe themselves as white. It's 77% white if you count them.
>>28243591
FUCK OFF WE'RE FUCKIN FULL
>>28243591
I'VE HAD A GUTFULL OF YOUR SHIT GET FUCKED. WE'RE FUCKIN FULL.
I think the Danish and Norwegian navy and Air Force are in good shape. Better than the Aussies but not quite at the level of the Brits.
>>28243239
They held Mazar-e-sharif for 8 years. Pretty quiet area, but its not nothing, especially for a non-nato country.
What's the general opinion about belgian army
>>28244568
>They held Mazar-e-sharif for 8 years
Is that where they imported all their cultural enrichment from?
>>28243239
Hands tied by politicians. The military itself has many good and aggressive units.
>>28243533
wel apart om andere nederflikkers op /k/ te zien, heb je ook vuurwapens? of ben je hier alleen voor kekke plaatjes van wapens (zoals ik)
>>28244568
The Germans were there too though, and the Norwegians and later the US. It was always a quiet area and they weren't alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qP9EaPa8dg
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>>28243003
I remember reading that when the Dutch were in Uruzgan they really went native and all in with the COIN stuff. They even said they could win without fighting the Taliban by just being really awesome to the population, then in 07 when the Taliban overran a lot of police stations they launched a big operation and used artillery and air power and all the rest anyway. It was a David Axe article, it made them look like they didn't know what they were doing and just weren't prepared for a real fight.
>>28242200
Germany hasn't won a war in like 200 years
>>28244568
>>28244873
The northern region in general was very peaceful at first. In the beginning Norwegian personell were even driving in unarmored vehicles.
Then the region progressively went to shit and driving an unarmored car became unthinkable lol. It went from relatively calm, to soldiers being engaged in firefights several times a week on patrol and lots of stuff happening.
The north became dangerous.
>>28245051
Germany beat Russia in WW1, come at me
>>28242196
Sounds like talk straight coming out of an angry spic.
Anglo applies directly and only to direct descendents of ANGLO SAXONS, IE THE FUCKING BRITISH.
The majority of american descent is german or other. British is actually a very small percentage of american ancestry.
>>28245078
They also smashed France and Poland in WW2, didn't win though.
>>28242681
>But we think our training and equipment is on the same level when it comes to the enlisted personell.
of course you do. but who gives a fuck what you think?
>But I have no problem comparing a conscript to a conventional anglo soldier who has less than a years experience in the military.
this is because you're a fucking idiot.
>>28242654
Yeah from the British soldiers I've talked to who worked with the Danes, the reviews were good. Apparently they were ballsy as fuck and their Leopard 2s and special forces guys were really helpful in Helmand.
No idea about the Norwegians or Swedes but I imagine they're both very competent. Italians are always the joke nation (probably because of their officer class, not the soldiers). Jury's still out on the Dutch...
>>28242685
>>28242685
the germans couldn't even pass their own fitness tests.
>>28242891
>The Dutch, apparently.
that's deeply ironic when you think about it, isn't it.
>>28245155
Oh and the Estonians are apparently fucking crazy.
>Mate from Brit Intelligence attached to Estonian patrol
>Walk through known IED hot spot
>"You this is a known IED hot spot, right?"
>"Is no problem"
>"..."
Gotta love them.
>>28244756
>aggressive units
>have done no fighting since they tried to train moose cavalry, but you can still somehow judge them as 'aggressive'
hard anal hazing doesn't mean your unit is 'aggressive'.
>>28244920
>it made them look like they didn't know what they were doing and just weren't prepared for a real fight.
That's because they didn't know what they were doing and they weren't prepared for a real fight.
This is the hilarious issue with the GWOT. All these fucking european countries with their heads up their asses calling the US stupid and ignorant and dumb while they strut around the quietest parts of Afghanistan doing fucking nothing at all and claiming victory. Then the Taliban turns up and pushes their shit in. Oh look motherfuckers, not so easy after all is it? The conceit of these lazy smug fucking do-nothings is nauseating.
Then when the bullets fly the fall over themselves to run away.
>>28242211
>>28245092
>British is actually a very small percentage of american ancestry.
it's the second largest group, about 55-45% german-anglo.
>>28245197
Good thing you know then.
A great deal of firefights in Afghanistan
UN mission in former Yugoslavia
UN mission in Congo
The Sovjet invasions of Finland during WW2
Look them up if you don't believe me.
Among others, but of course no where near the amount of fighting the U.S troops has been in.
The only real professional military in the world right?
>>28245226
Yep, and in my experience a lot of them are obsessed with the idea of professionalism and shit on the US military for being a lot of young men who are aggressive (as opposed to their highly trained, restrained, professional force) but they never fucking do anything. Being a soldier over there is just another civil service profession, only with a gun.
They will say that they have strict ROE and that prevents the military from fighting but the reality is the military is perfectly happy to use the ROE as a way to get out of combat. It gives them a built in excuse and they can put the blame on the politicians. Really though, even without strict ROE you'd be seeing the same shit.
>>28245340
They've had 2 KIA the whole time they've been in Afghanistan. Equating UN missions with combat deployments makes no sense. In that case the US should get credit for 'deployments' to the Korean border. It's peacekeeping and watching natives kill each other.
>>28245385
5 KIA:s.
As I said no where near the amount of fighting the American and UK troops has been in. But using only that as a measurement is kind of strange.
Thinking all U.N missions is peaceful are ignorant and wrong. Look them up if you don't believe me.
In Finland Sweden had a volunteer force of almost 6000men at its peak.
I am not criticizing any other military or trying to attribute shit that ain't true about Sweden's military.
But saying that "hurr all europoor military's is cucked cowards" is just fucking stupid.
Maybe some I'd you met bad units or good units with bad leadership?
I am sure that not all of U.S units is top notch and don't confuse underfunded with incompetence.
>>28242968
Where are you getting that from? Typical mexicans are 60% indigenous. And 5% black.
However, the ones coming into the US probably are whiter and blacker.
>>28242968
I'm Mexican and my girlfriend's very white. What's the credit applied to our chilluns?
>>28243182
I was there and it was the US, Britain and France that left us hanging without air support. We couldn't even launch our own airstrikes without UN permission. It would have been suicide. Also mudslimes
Counting KIAs is not really the alfo omega argument to counting combat, even though it can of course be a rough indicator. My country has low KIA count but some of the soldiers attribute a lot of it to pure luck. There is a lot of "I should be dead" moments and bullets that only tore through peoples clothes instead of their bodies. The rest is attributed to good training of course, and people who were "only" injured instead of becoming a KIA statistic.
>>28243017
>2011
You have no idea how fast we're being overrun mate. These past few months my city has went from black people being a novel sighting to hearing constant foreign chatter walking down the streets.
>>28242183
Comparing Canada and the UK to U.S. Top kek.
>>28242183
The US armed forces are the shittiest in the first world in terms of discipline.
>>28245051
What is franco-Prussian war?
>>28245670
>eu referendum
>51% vote to stay in
>scotland votes to secede from the uk
>no further referendums are ever held, despite 62% of uk residents now opposing membership
>scotland institutes the most liberal refugee program in the EU
>the migrants all drift south for manufacturing jobs
buckle up m8
>>28242183
>classing canada in the same league as the US or UK
I'm Canadian and I'm laughing at this
>>28245759
I fucking swear if we have another referendum I'm going to lose my shit. We fucking had one, we voted no. End of. Scotland stays in Britain.
>>28245775
but what about the trident and the oil?
>>28245772
why? Our army consistently has it's shit together regardless of the fact that our equipment is pretty much bust.
>>28245078
Did they win though? Nope then they lost the next one too in fact now its under sharia law. Way to go Germany you're soooooo badass.
>>28244904
this deserves a reply
>those people in the comments saying vikings are multicultural and that europe was never white
Christ.
>>28245788
what about them?
>>28245238
There's a shit ton of Irish Americans lumped into your "British" definition. Do Celts count as Anglo?
>>28243239
>>28244568
>>28244709
>>28245067
Documentary about the Swedish effort in Afghanistan. Pretty high quality, has english subtitles. You'd be chewing shit if you're claiming they didn't do anything innastan, sure it wasn't as rough as Helmand province, but there was still plenty of combat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz5FmC-ELCQ
>>28245840
>do celts count as anglo
seen as the majority of Britons are celtic, yes. Only the east half of England is genetically anglo saxon.
>>28245850
Also just realised that picture is from Mali, not Afghanistan.
>>28245538
>However, the ones coming into the US probably are whiter and blacker.
Not in the northeast they're not. It's all the 4' tall Mayan looking motherfuckers.
The Spanish Mexican elite tend not to have economic reasons to emigrate.
>>28245519
Here's the thing, I'm not trying to be insulting or anything but there's a story from A'stan abour how a German general was giving up a conference to reporters about how awesome the Germans were doing in the north. How they were winning without firing a shot, all the civilians loved them, all the Taliban were in hiding, etc. It was the typical smugness that frankly a lot of us have come to expect from a lot of European militaries. In response a reporter asked a question along the lines of, "If you'd like maybe you can come down to Helmand and show us how it's done then."
That's the point. The Euros have placed themselves in a position where they don't do anything and can't fail. If they do nothing then they win because it's just further proof of how sophisticated their methods and troops are. If they lose territory and can't influence events in their AO, well that's because of the strict ROE. An ROE which they use as a justification for not doing anything.
>>28245756
>wasn't Germany yet
>became Germany in 1871
>literally hasn't won a war since
>krautaboos think this is good
Top kek
>>28245911
Not saying your story isn't true, I really don't know.
Politicians decide what their forces can't and can do (there is little to no acceptance of cassualities in many european countries) , someone is furthering his own career by taking advantage of the cituation.
Therefore all Europeans militaries are crap and the soldiers are cowards, the end.
I'm from Canuckland but don't pay any attention to our army.
Is it of any significance to the world? I'd Google it, but all I get is "Of course! Here are reasons that may not even be worth anything in the grand scheme of things".
>>28245911
That "story from A'stan" is very subjective and most of all, outdated.
I can't speak on behalf of the germans because I don't read about them, (even though you let an anecdote about a german general apply to all "the Euros") but Northern Afghanistan went downhill at least from 2009, 2010 became even more dangerous and so on. Around this period Norwegian soldiers were on average in a firefight every 3rd day.
They've also removed literally thousands of kebab down there. Sorry man but your post is just straight up ignorance.
>>28245582
Well I think it'd be 40%
>>28245911
You are dumb as a fucking brick and know nothing about the conflict.
>>28245911
>but there's a story
This is the point where you should have realized "this isn't true" rather than base your entire opinion on it.
>>28242730
Their government and military leadership is as spineless as it gets.
>>28245759
>>28245670
he warned, no one listened
>all these Euro's automatically assuming OP is American
It makes the insecurity easy to spot.
>>28249769
>as if they were on the same level as the Anglo armies (UK, Canada, Australia and the US) and less like the pussy
>(UK, Canada, Australia and the US)
>Australia
I knew it!
>>28242353
>Totally missed the point.
>>28242183
>>28242187
>US
>Anglo
Thankfully we're not
>>28245850
I've met those guys, they're paratroopers. They rotated down after us. Was back in March this year.
>I have cooked hotdogs on the hesco in the background
>>28245340
>Swede cucks try to talk themselves up
Countries like Norway, Sweden have many of their nationals on /k/ trying to make them seem more significant militarily than they actually are. Canadians and Australians are also guilty of this, but at least they have some grounds for the puffery.
The ones who are underrated are France and Poland. In Afghanistan, the Poles straight up murdered a wedding party of Afghans with mortars in retaliation for taking some casualties. They also lost 40+ troops in Afghanistan, which is more than all the Scandinavians put together, yet because there are more Norwegian and Swedish keyboard warriors here, Norway and Denmark get talked up more.
>>28246304
Spot the Norwegian braggart who was probably a logistician during his service but pretends to be John Rambo
>>28252873
Danes suffered the highest % of casualties out of ISAF forces relative to how many soldiers they had there in total. And you're probably right about the fact that Scandis like to talk about themselves on /k/, but I doubt it's bragging, it's more like "pls notice me" kinda thing.
>>28252873
I know we have a lot of representatives on /k/. Posters are proud of their armed forces, but it's not like they don't have a reason to be. Posters are simply giving their forces acknowledgement. Then you say Poland and France is overrated. Well that's not my perception at all. They get mentioned a lot and the french and polish posters brag a lot as well. I've read plenty of informative stuff, specially about the french. We post a lot about their Mali operation too. God forbid people try to acknowledge their troops without being a big relevant country.
People keep repeating that we get "talked up", whatever that means. Seems to me that people want their memes about scandis not being in combat and when we inform you otherwise you get upset because it collides with your world view.
>polish retaliation
good on them and you're welcome to post about that story as much as you like.
but if I told you about the retaliations attacks that norwegian soldiers did and when they tagged skulls on taliban huts as a warning sign I bet it's just "talking up his troops, keyboard warrior etc". seems to me you simply aren't interested in it because it's scandis doing it.
>>28252899
I'm not even pretending to have deployed. I am simply more informed about Norwegian operations because I pay attention to the info that is released. I don't expect non-norwegians to be informed about it.It just grinds my gears when foreigners think they have any idea, but all they've got is some gossip that goes mouth to mouth. Or it's literally memes.
I'm no keyboard warrior. That would mean I sit here and say that I personally do badass shit.
>>28243168
Retard its ~60% without hispanics ~80% with hispanics.
Vikings were once, now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkt1vAX0MRM
>>28253140
>5.56x45
>take down an enemy in one shot
Also not sure why people like to use that video to make fun of scandis. You do realize scandis themselves made the show to take the piss out of gays?
>>28253140
yeah, we made a show that makes fun of faggots how silly of us
America produced "Queer Eye", does that mean America is gay? Nice logic.
>>28252873
I have no idea where in my post I tried to talk Swedish military up.
Keyboard warrior I am not. I am a paid soldier with two deployments behind me one in Afghanistan.
Of course the Swedish military isn't relevant in the great scheme of things. Had we not been in that particular AOR someone else would've.
Does that take away the effort of the individuals? I don't think so.
I was just trying to point out facts not cry "look at me" but you choose to understand what you want so go ahead I can sleep at night either way.
Every time I have met with and/or worked with soldiers from other countries everyone have been total bro's. Where are all theses haters when in country? Aplies to exercises to.
American soldiers tend to be the most friendly in my experience, open and easy to talk to aside from my scandi bro's as we practically talk the same language.
>>28242945
I love this video, don't understand shit about it, but always makes me laugh. Anyone care to explain what the fuck is happening?
>>28253394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vg2sTlSTrg
>>28243591
FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
>>28253352
+1 on this. 1 deployment and assisted in a few exercises with other countries, americans are probably the most bro of the ones ive met. Seals were really friendly, sas were pretty douchy.
>>28252657
Were they nice?
They're usually portrayed as one of the better Swedish units.
>Canadian army
>significant
Canada fag here, I really hope european armys arent that insignificant compared to ours
Arguably they have to worry about their neighbors a bit more
>In iraq with the danes currently
>Danes are all fucking massive 200+ pound roided up viking raiders
>Chaplain walking pas weight lifting racks
>"seriously, how the hell are you ALL this big"
>Massive dane with nordic rune tattoos all over his body stops curling his 200 pound stack of plates and says in heavily accented english
>"SOME OF US STILL BELIEVE IN THE OLD GODS FATHER"
Danes are alright in my book.
>>28242183
How did he get so shellshocked?
>>28253352
Have you seen Krig for Fred, and if so, do you think it gives a good picture of what you guys did in Afghanistan?
>>28253835
Seems pretty based
>>28253740
>sas were pretty douchy
I hear the same from a guy who worked with them. Very serious dudes obviously, but not interested in being sociable at all. They looked at people like they hated their guts, during conversation they just spit right in front of him, literally no effort on the social side.
>not bowing to your scandinavian overlords
https://youtu.be/bYFMZ_wuqXI?t=1m3s
>>28254286
If I remember it correctly, he got hit by a bullet in an ambush, and this picture is kind of in the middle of the fighting when he is being treated
>>28254357
Haven't seen all episodes as some of them where a bit cringy.
For most part yes as far as I remember the series. Was a while since I saw it.
There was a peroid of very intense fighting where the insurgents closed in us pretty good that wasn't shown or filmed for that matter (gopro's aside).
>>28243312
> every man lives with mom until he's well into his 30s
> not pussies
>>28253394
They're training the new conscripts.
>>28253140
>>28255331
Looking good
I fought side by side with the Danish in Afghan. I'm a USMC Scout Sniper team leader (hurr duurrr muhhareen, whatever) You are absolutely wrong. I worked with Danish Tanks callsign "Viking" They were using Leopard 2's, They had 3 MBTs, a command vehicle, a recovery vehicle and a fully loaded IFV for support. Their command rig had a self launching and recovering UAV that would identify and laze targets for the Leopards. Every Dane was at least 6'2", they were all extremely well built and physically impressive. I was able to speak with them extensively and was very impressed with their intelligence and professionalism. They knew their craft well. They were integrated with females, only 4 females in the whole lot. They were beautiful. Not deployment beautiful either, like 8 or 9's in real world scale. They were clearly being fucked by the top 6 or so alphas. We worked together for 4 weeks. I would set in a hide site while they would remain back 1.5ish KM as to not scare away Terry. I would provide target locations, talk on and terminal guidance on fleeing taliban fighters and large groupings of the enemy. Without fail they would shoot their main guns and decimate the enemy outside my max effective. They saved my ass on several occasions and gave me good intel on locations of fighters they found that were in my area that were obstructed from my line of sight but not to their UAV. I was able to engage several of these fighters knowing exactly where they were coming from and setting my dope early. In all the Danes warfighting ability was extremely impressive. I would sooner work with them again than any other Tank section including any of the nations you listed. Like most small units, they are typically better trained and equipped in comparison to a much larger force.
TL:DR: Fuck you. Long live "Viking"
