Upper-Class Carry
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I am tired of seeing all these no-gunz wanting buy shitty guns only to bitch about them later on. Oddly enough seeing all those threads has made me want to purchase a fancier carry pistol. Since I am not a richfag but can save enough money to make a purchase around tax season I am looking at the Kimber offerings. I have always loved Kimber but never really heard anything negative about them. So tell me /k/ why should I not purchase an Ultra Carry II
Because it's from Kimber
>>28241660
fair enough
>>28241653
>MIM parts
>rust
>poor reliability
>>28241653
>Never really heard anything negative about them
Have you heard anything about them at all?
Suggest me a nice carry gun then
If you really want a little 1911, there are tons form different manufacturers.
Mind you I wouldn't: chopping so much off the 1911 makes it really finicky and much less reliable
A Kahr maybe
>>28241653
You're doing it wrong. Mustang is a better design for short barrels.
>>28241778
Try looking at Beretta compact and pocket pistols if you want a combination of performance, history, and fancy or class. Not trying to shill or anything, but they've been making guns for hundreds of years and are often seen as very classy firearms.
>>28241834
Heavy(by comparison) , but god damn Mustangs are nice.
>>28241653
or kahr k9 or the mk9
or ppk, sig has a few small single stacks that ooze class also
>>28241914
I've owned both a Mustang and a Kimber Micro Carry.
I sold the Mustang.
>>28241776
>>28241767
>>28241660
There are plenty of bad Kimber stories online because they sell as many 1911s in a week as Colt does in a year. I currently own 3, all three are trouble free.
The full size (a Warrior) beat my buddies G21 in a first to failure torture test involving 5 cases each of Tula.
>>28241653
If you want some flash, look for an Onyx, Sapphire, or Amethyst special edition. They are fly as hell, but too pimp-gun for me to handle.
>>28241653
I have been eying Kimber Micros myself.
Cabelas has them on sale now.
I bought two Sigs recently, p238 and a p938 Extreme.
I like the safety and the hammer better on the Kimber, but I hear their recoil springs wear out and have to be replaced often. Also, no 9mm like the p938.
The Sigs are great. I still want a Kimber.
The Advocate can be had for $700, which is the lowest model with night sights iirc.
All Sigs I've seen have night sights standard.
The Kimber grip is a little fatter and round.
The p238 is the smallest, easiest to conceal... especially with the flush 6 round mag, and Academy has an exclusive model with green fiber optic front sight and includes a 7 round magazine for $519.
>>28241653
Proof that money doesn't buy good taste, the post.
>>28241778
>Suggest me a nice carry gun then
Here you go
>>28241653
Just get a Colt.
>>28241653
>Complain about people wanting to buy shitty guns
>Say you want to buy a shitty gun and justify it with cost
Gud lawd
I've been building and customizing 1911s for. My customers for 10 years. Kimber is an ok choice. I am biased against them just because the owners are the biggest fanboys. Everyone seems to think nothing is better than a Kimber, lol. My only real complaint about them is their stainless steel is rust prone.
Since this is upper class carry, here's my EDC.
I appreciate all the input komrades. That's why I asked to hear the bad so I didn't spend my money on a piece of shit gun. More suggestions are welcome
>>28243057
>Say you want to buy a shitty gun and justify it with cost
...
>I didnt read OP's post. Let me kek at him.
buy a USP
>>28243397
Get a sphinx
Colt Defender
New Agent if you can find one
The thing to remember about shorty 1911s is that the reduced reciprocating mass means a higher cyclic rate. Heavy loads will cause the slide to cycle too fast and result in occasional bolt-over-base malfunctions. You can tune a sub-compact 1911 to run the heavy stuff with heavier recoil and magazine springs, but most work best from the factory with 185-200gr non +P loads.
>>28243183
How is Kimber's QC now?
I remember several years ago on the carry forums (don't really frequent them anymore) they were putting out a lot of +$1,000 1911s that had to be returned for repairs.
If I remember correctly, it started happening after they began making their own frames.
>>28243730
Everything I've touched in the last few years has looked good to me. I wouldn't be afraid to CC one at all.
I'm a glock faggot and I'm not trying to start shit but why do you suggest single stack 1911's for carry? If you wanna go single stack can't you get much smaller pistols for the same barrel length and still have higher capacities? I never understood compact 1911's.
>>28243761
Thanks. Hoped they worked the kinks out by now, but past issues like that can make you hesitant. They do have some beautiful model 1911s.
I remember on one forum most of the 1911 shooters wouldn't CC any 1911 until after several hundred rounds had been fired through them first to ensure reliability.
>>28243803
>If you wanna go single stack can't you get much smaller pistols for the same barrel length and still have higher capacities?
Not really, no. Maybe a difference of 1 bullet depending on caliber.
The main reason one goes for a compact 1911 is because they are used to a non-compact 1911 and they want the same manual of arms.
>>28236668
Comparison chart of Sig to Sphinx ?
>>28242335
Seconding the MK9
>>28243183
Are the Stealth Arms 80% frames reliable?
>>28244108
Are you a machinist?
>>28244195
No but their Phantom jig looks pretty user friendly.
>>28244233
Will still require filing, sanding, and lapping if you want anything decent to come out of it.
>>28243862
That's true for any CC, just ask the early adopters for the Gen 4 Glocks.
You should always put at least 200 rounds of ball and a box of your chosen defensive ammo through a gun before carrying.
What does /k/ think of the Boberg XR45S
>>28244366
Ultra complicated.
That's not a compliment.
>>28243441
I read the post.
Since it seems to have gone over your head, I'm calling the Kimber Ultra Carry II an expensive turd.
>>28244425
I dont care about the ammo sensitivity of the gun, I reload and work around it.
>>28244444
The biggest issue is case mouth tension and pulling bullets from casings. Keep things tight by a thou or two and it should be okay.
>>28244425
And how is it ultra complicated anyways? Because the extractor moves more than in most designs?
>>28244468
I know, I have Redding micrometer adjustable crimp dies and a CH Tool & Die canneluring tool.
>>28244316
Did not answer the original question....
>>28244629
>Will an 80% be reliable?
>Are you a machinist?
>No
Then it won't be reliable
>>28244689
Thank you professor metallurgy
>>28241653
>Spending more than $400 on a carry gun
Have fun if you ever have to use it and your Gucci pistol spends a year rusting away in an evidence locker.
>>28244881
>Wanting to carry a Jennings because the cast pot metal slide wont corrode while in police custody.
>>28244881
This may come as a surprise but some people have enough disposable income to not worry if it is locked up in evidence because they can afford to carry what they like.
![P30SK-V1_2241x2241[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nU2AULs.jpg "P30SK-V1_2241x2241[1].jpg")
I hear good things about the P30SK
>>28245159
fat fuck pls go
>>28244108
It was my post you responded to, but unfortunately I don't have any experience with their frames. Your ability to finish the frame aside, what makes a frame reliable is proper tolerances. Specifically the slide rails and the sear/hammer pin holes. If those holes are not In the right spot or not perfectly straight through the frame, you'll have serious issues with sear nose and hammer hook engagement.
>>28241653
If you're looking for a decent gun, you just broke two important rules.
Don't get Kimber
Don't get a 3" 1911
>>28244881
Can you stop saying this like its the rule and not the exception. The only time your pistol will be held by police in evidence is if you go to trial, which is either your fault or the rare incident that the liberal media chose you to demonize.
>>28245239
really comfy grip, lightweight, etc. i like it.
highest class carry is walther ppk variant though; everybody knows that.
>>28244881
If you're the 1/100,000 who actually has to shoot a motherfucker to defend themselves then you'd be stupid to carry anything other than what you'll feel comfortable using, regardless of its price. And time spent forcing yourself to get good with a gun you don't like is time wasted tat could have been spent on getting better with a gun you do like.
Also, the cost of the pistol will pale in comparison to your legal fees.
>>28241653
>1911 under 5in
>>28244078
mk9 will likely be my next pistol whenever i get around to it. Not even to carry, just like small pistols
>>28241653
>Kimber
I'm gonna have to check exactly how long this has been in my guns folder.
>>28246816
Holy fuck, that must be the weakest metal on earth.
>>28246816
Apparently I just got it a year and 7 months ago, seems like it was much longer. Though looking back it really was, even if I don't remember most of what happened in that time.
>>28244366
Ugly, unreliable, heavy (but smooth) and long double action only trigger pull.
They are pretty easy to shoot, they manage the recoil very well, and they are rated for .45 Super. I honestly wouldn't buy one though, its too wide to be a great carry gun and too hard to load to be a range toy (the magazines are loaded backward and there is no follower).
>>28245159
>income
Daddy giving you an allowance isn't income you fat faggot. Carrying is for people that actually have the mobility to get up and go outside and participate in life, rather than sitting at their computer trapped by the mass of objects stuck in their fatty gravitational pull
>>28246816
Most of those pictures are inexcusable flaws, but those top three on the right look like the pictures were taken in someone's living room, and anyone can drop the slide on a piece of brass or loaded chamber and troll with it.
>>28244078
I've been looking at an MK9 but I've been wondering about how short it is. If I use a full thumbs forward grip, will my thumb protrude past the muzzle? I want a small gun, but I don't want something small enough that I will have to modify my grip to use, and I was surprised to find out that the MK9 is only .15 inches longer than the lcp.
>>28241653
Short-barrel 1911s like that are notorious for not being reliable. You could check out a sphinx sdp subcompact if you're looking for a top quality carry option.
>>28247146
Is that an fnx?
>>28247146
Nevermind the trigger guard is too square. Hk
>>28247303
CZ P-09
>>28244366
I think it's cool, but it's sort of an answer to a question nobody asked. What they did is a neat stepping stone in gun tech advancement, but I don't think the price and weird design is worth the extra inch or so of barrel.
>>28247260
The new production UCIIs are highly reliable. The only drawback is capacity.
>>28247146
>look up Kahr MK9
>only .05" longer than my S&W Bodyguard .380
>only .25" taller
Holy shit that's small.
>>28248075
Yeah, I may have to move up to a K9, but I've been thinking that if I'm getting into the size range of a P2000sk, and I'm already in H&K price range, I should get the H&K instead and get the higher capacity too.
>>28241653
you ain't upper class until you're carrying a Coonan in a chest rig under your suit jacket
>>28241653
Kimber isn't upper class. Kimber is stupid fudd class. If you want a ridiculously expensive gun, go for Korth or Sphinx, but a Glock still reflects better on its user than a Kimber, because a Kimber is basically a dunce cap warning everyone around you that you're a complete retard.
>>28247921
I am curious if they are planning to make a full-sized model. or even try making a target gun out of that action.
>>28248131
iunno, for the money, kahr will take care of you
They repaired this k9 under warranty when it was 2-3 years out of warranty and i was at least the third owner and some one along the way messed around with the internals.
Kahr is a class act with CS
Gun runs flawlessly now just like the first k9 i had years ago.
I really like the trigger, its long, but its one of the most consistent triggers every time. Its not super high speed low drag, but it is very well done and excells at being what it is supposed to be.
>>28250334
I want a p380 to ankle carry but I read so many conflicting anecdotes about the poly Kahr's. And the few people I know who own CW's and PM's would go to any length to justify their purchases, so I'm unlikely to get an unbiased account. I would happily carry a K9 but not on my twiggy bird legs.
>>28241653
Is the Beretta 92fs fusion richfag enough?
>>28241653
Just bought the micro a month ago for my 21st but I haven't gotten a chance to shoot it because my hand is broken.
>>28251707
>Having an entire fucking sentence of a warning on the side of your guns ever
>>28253255
How much was the sticker price?
Been looking at these, and the Sigs.
>>28253329
Went to Cabellas and was feeling both because up until then I was pretty set on the sig. I think they where both about $650 though.
>>28241653
Kimbers are great guns, and don't let the faggots ITT tell you otherwise. I can put together a montage of glocks exploding and CZ's with stovepipes in a few minutes too. They had some issues with their short barrel 1911's between 5-10 years ago but if you're buying new or a used that's been broken in and well-maintained, you'll be in great shape. Buy one, break it in, maintain it, you might have a stovepipe or FTE 1/1000 rounds.
STI
I carry a Wilson Combat Sentinel in a shoulder holster when wearing a slim-straight fit suit jacket. When I'm innawoods, hiking, or don't care about being all dressed up I carry a Sig P220 10mm.
>>28256069
The difference is that Kimber's quality control dropped like a fucking rock 10 or so years ago, and these issues are common, unlike Glocknades which happen because of retards and their ++P++ handloads.
>>28241653
I had the gun in that pick OP, well an identical stainless ultra carry 2.
I sold it.
For one, if you want a 1911, get a 5" barrel.
The other thing is that the trigger break was a bit hard for a gun that expensive which isn't to say the gun wasn't accurate, it was very accurate but a similar priced Springfield comes with a better trigger.
Lastly, and this was my biggest gripe with it, the gun would not cycle if it wasn't cleaned just right.
One time, I put a little too much Lucas Red oil on the rails and it would not cycle. I popped the slide off, wiped the rails down a bit and it cycled fine. I want a gun that's less finicky than that. Get a gun with slightly looser rails and 5" barrel and a better trigger and IMO you have a better weapon that probably cost you less.
ps. the reason people hate Kimber is their marketing. All those full page adds have to be paid for. They claim their selling mass produced "custom" guns which is silly and they're overpriced.
>>28244366
I followed it's development closely.
His biggest challenge was getting a clip, the part that clips onto the back of the bullet, to pull the bullet out without eventually cracking and breaking from the mechanical stresses.
He finally got one that was pretty good but it's still a weak point that will wear out and break after so much use. That is not cool.
That's the first thing.
Second thing, slide length is the least important dimension for carry comfort. So just making the slide an 1" longer would accomplish the same thing, be just as comfortable, more reliable and cheaper.
That leads us into the 3rd thing, the price. It's a "pocket 9" that costs way more than it's competition without any real advantage.
>tl:dr "no"
>>28246281
>no trigger discipline
>no chin discipline
>no drink discipline
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