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Explain to me how this seems like a good idea:
>cartridge in chamber
>hammer ready to go if you nudge the safety and snatch up your gun
>accident ready to happen/10
Do you really need 1 extra round? Does it seem smart to essentially walk around pointing a loaded gun at yourself? Btw, I'm completely new to guns and looking to get one on my 21st birthday next fall, so sorry if this is dumb.
okay lets say its a glock. Theres no safety to nudge and if you "snatch up your gun" its still going off.
>what is trigger discipline?
>>28092153
if we are talking about generic 1911 here
1 needing to disengage safety
2 pull trigger
3 depress grip safety
is safer than carrying you generic striker fired/ trigger safety gun, like glock
Nudge
Snatch
Dynamic story, bro.
>>28092153
I carry an M&P with no safety, and I carry it chambered. If you exercise proper trigger discipline than you have nothing to worry about.
>>28092153
just carry a DA/SA with no safety, hammer down and around chambered like i do
a good DA trigger has a pull long and strong enough that an ND is highly unlikely, and smooth enough that a first shot is still fast and accurate
>>28092238
What if you get nudged in the snatch?
>>28092153
Racking the slide when you draw is for dumbass conscripts
>>28092268
>>28092268
I'll assume you mean bumped into.
My IWB holster covers the trigger, and even if it didn't I'd have to be bumped very hard and in a specific way to catch the trigger. Once again, not at all worried.
>>28092153
It's completely safe if you are, but regardless, don't carry it like that if you're uncomfortable with it.
Better yet, get a gun that suits you, like a double action with decocker or something, so you can carry it with one up and not worry.
Watch some defense shooting footages and you'll see why people recommend carrying with one chambered. It's not for the extra round, it's so you can manipulate the gun with 1 hand, and so you have fewer actions to do under adrenaline/duress/stress.
This has been discussed a billion times.
With proper training, disengaging the safety or racking the slide don't make much of a difference.
For the most common types of self defense situations, it won't matter. You'll have time to do either or both of these.
The exception to this is a situation where you are already being held at gun point and have to draw and shoot as fast as possible because your life depends on it.
A "safety" on a gun is to give fuds the illusion of more safety, because unless you're using a shitty Taurus gun, then the gun doesn't fire until you pull the trigger.
The trigger shouldn't be exposed to anything other than your finger, and if it is, then that is your fault.
>>28092216
kek
>>28092307
This is an example of a gun with the safety on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_YWNo1f-o
>>28092307
>racking the slide don't make much of a difference.
You're pretty good...
>>28092399
Do you even ninja-cock?
Thinking about some kind of 1911 or beretta 92 iwb carry. Could it get snagged and go off on it's own or strictly user error?
>>28092153
>doesnt think you should carry with one in the pipe
>doesnt think +1-ing is a worthwhile
>>28092307
>racking the slide wont matter
try doing it while under the most stress you've ever been under, you know because you are about to have to shoot someone
in self defense situations seconds count and you're going to waste time racking the slide because youre a pussy and cant grow the balls to carry condition 1? dont fucking carry you child.
>>28093334
I'd like to think i'd handle the situation with as much detachment and scrutiny as any other situation.
Thankfully, I'm not retarded like that anon, and I know the likelihood of that happening is basically zilch, even with formal training.
I'm also not a little fuccboi like op who can't carry condition 0 or 1 because I'm afraid of an inanimate object.
>>28092357
Yeah, that's a POS gun all over, it's not just a safety issue.
>>28092153
cant wait for you to try to rack your gun while tyrone caves your face in
>>28092153
>Someone does something different than me
>They must be wrong
You vote democrat, don't you?
>>28093454
Regardless of how well you think youll react, there is a decent possibility your non dominant hand will be tied up doing anything from carrying groceries to defending while trying to draw. carrying condition 3 is fucking useless.
>>28092153
>having to rack your slide while being attacked, possibly without the use of one arm
I must be the only person who prefers condition zero carry.
pull gun, pull trigger.
>>28092153
How to make a bad situation worse: The Topic
>>28093559
>tripfags actually believe this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIpoKEVDpiY
So pretty much I'd have to really fuck up to shoot myself like this? That's what it seems like. The quickdraw benefits are undeniable too. Also, it seems to me that the only real way for this to happen is on the draw itself, meaning that it only happens either at the range or in an actual situation. Is that right, or is there any way the holster can be maneuvered accidentally to make the gun goes off without you grabbing at it?
>I realize I must seem retarded, but please help.
>>28093588
being an expert redneck with a youtube channel this was bound to happen
>>28093783
If you have a terrible holster then carrying one up the pipe on something like a glock is a terrible idea.
If you arent a moron and buy a decent holster that cover the trigger there is no way for it to go off in that holster.
>>28093588
I honestly do prefer it. I also won't shoot myself because I'm not a Tex Grebner-tier retard.
In everyone else's defense, I may be a colossal retard, but I am still not THAT retarded.
>>28093559
You and pretty much every Glockfag...
>>28093559
Honestly, all guns with "trigger safeties" are condition zero.
>>28094515
I'm not a Glockfag, though. I mean on guns that have [spoiler]traditional safeties[/spoiler].
>>28092153
There is no reason not to carry with one up the pipe if you are not a conscript in a poorfag military with motley, worn-out hand-me-downs instead of a modern handgun of acceptable quality.
>>28092307
>With proper training, disengaging the safety or racking the slide don't make much of a difference.
One of those you can do with one hand while having your head bounced off the pavement. No safety is better, but carrying condition 3 is retarded.
>>28093895
Thanks.
>>28092153
never had a problem with my Sigma
>>28094552
you would carry a 1911 cocked and unlocked?
or some striker fired gun that you could buy without a safety? M&P shield
>>28095026
>you would carry a 1911 cocked and unlocked?
That's exactly what I'm saying, yes.
>>28095036
do you own a 1911?
>>28094515
Well it's kind of hard not to with a glock, no? Unless you want to keep the chamber empty.
>>28095057
I have my great grandfather's rem rand 1911 that he used to [spoiler]viciously slaughter[/spoiler] innocent Germans who dindu nuffin.
>>28095119
which you carry cocked and unlocked
>>28092205
No replacement for a safety. Use your head, it's an off switch. A gun is important enough to have one and if you can't train yourself to use it quickly in a real situation then you don't deserve a gun.
>>28095137
While we were having this conversation, I accidentally shot myself.
>>28095160
don't worry your training will kick in and you'll call your parents
filter
>>28095026
>you would carry a 1911 cocked and unlocked?
Like JMB intended?
>>28095169
>filter
You're welcome.
>>28095172
nope.
>>28092268
Why don't you ask my 8 pound trigger pull, faggot.
If you are not confident in safely carrying your carry pistol with one in the pipe, then you should not ever carry your pistol.
>>28092255
This, a DA/SA with a good holster and proper training.
If you still ND then you don't have propre training.
>>28095229
I really hope you are trolling. 8lbs? how do you hit anything with such a heavy trigger? I can barely stand 5lbs.
>>28093530
>anything from carrying groceries
If you're at a point where you have to draw your gun on someone, I'm pretty sure you can drop the fucking groceries.
>>28096209
youre idealizing a non ideal situation, enjoy getting shot or stabbed trying to get your gun out and rack it.
>>28096423
>trying to get your gun out and rack it.
I'm not retarded OP, I carry condition 1. I'm just saying having groceries in your hand isn't really a valid reason to not have 2 free hands in a life or death situation.
>>28096192
Revolvers often have 10+ lb pulls in DA mode. Plenty of people can hit stuff with them. You're retarded.
>>28096192
>>I really hope you are trolling. 8lbs? how do you hit anything with such a heavy trigger? I can barely stand 5lbs.
One word
>Testosterone
>>28095158
Aww little baby wants to tell others how to live their lives.
>>28094481
>I also won't shoot myself because I'm not a Tex Grebner-tier retard.
I don't think anyone who's accidentally shot themselves think they are either.
>>28096192
Buy a police trade-in Model 10 for $350 and git good.
1 IN THE CHAMBER+KEY OPERATED TRIGGERLOCK MASTERRACE
>>28092153
>accidentally engaging your safety
>implying not a DA/SA, condition 2
>>28092153
Lol I don't even have the safety. My gun has a decocker but I never use it, just 3.5 pound single action all the time. I do get a little nervous when holstering, but I don't know why, I know the gun is not just going to go ff, and I've practiced draws from concealment like that probably over a thousand times and I've never had trigger get pulled accidentally.
>>28096431
>y u say dis?
I want to lrn 2 gun. Parents are unarmed faggots. Dad flew Navy and did a ton of deployments, but never had a gun back at home. How do I git gud without making a ton of retarded threads?
I rock cocked and locked at all times because my carry piece has no external safety, and is DAO, plus I'm not full autism, so I don't go fingerfucking my gun all the goddamn time.
>>28098920
lurk.
not just here but almost any place on the internet where guns are talked about.
Just remember to take everything you read with a massive grain of salt. ab
>>28097202
can anyone confirm whether or not thus is a good idea?
>>28099417
*absorb what gunshop countermen and various others in the hobby have to say
take that with an even larger grain.
even blantant fuddlore and misinformation can be educational if it leads you to research the truth
>>28099258
>>28092153
What is this device for?
>>28099417
doesn't "massive grain of salt" like completely deviate from the actual meaning of the idiom
>>28096820
If I ever accidentally shoot myself, I'll be sure to tell you guys.
>>28100013
>>28099417
googled the origin of the idiom and apparently it doesn't
larger grains of salt would make it even more salty
>>28099813
To lock up your weiner
Anyone who thinks you can accidentally take the safety off a 1911 has guaranteed never touched one
>>28092153
Can anyone post that one video of the store clerk who didn't carry one in the pipe and jammed his weapon trying to chamber a round?
>>28099813
It's a safety device to keep your cock locked while you carry. This way the raging hardon you get carrying a loaded weapon around innocent bystanders won't trigger your ruthless killing spree.
>>28096015
Why did I laugh so hard at this?
>>28092255
/thread
>>28092153
>carrying a gun with a sefety
and yes op its worth it to have a gun thats ready to fire when you need it to
>>28096790
> implying Op isnt
>>28099429
Hell no it's not
Yeah you can totally get a gun out and unlock the trigger while jaquell is smashing your head against the curb jesus christ are you fucking retarded
>>28093334
>racking the slide takes too much time to defend yourself
>might as well be defenseless
Guess he should just stick around gun free zones if he wants to stay safe then.
>>28101559
you can carry in condition retard. good luck with that.
>>28095158
>if you can't do X, then you don't deserve a gun.
This mindset is definitely one of the worst and most despicable you can hold. I can't even begin to list all of the things that are wrong with that statement other than the ultimate hypocrisy of denying others' rights
>Be me
>cc'ing BHP
No plastic P.O.S. for me.
>cocked and locked owb
P35 has no grip safely, just a thumb lever safety in the correct locaton.
>standing in the bookstore in the mall.
>reach around under my sportcoat to scratch my ass, check my billfold, and caress JMB's finest
>dat safety lever
>it's "off"
Glock sounds breddy gud rite now.
>>28092153
the fuck is that pic?
>>28103092
It's like a chastity belt, keeps you from having sex or jacking off.
