How legal is it to have concertina wire around your property? Also, fortification thread
>>28027137
In the US? Legal.
>>28027137
Concertina wire?
Son, what you need for a proper fortification is a shovel and some concrete
>>28027137
Depends on local ordinance in US. Your homeowners association could have a problem with it. You could also be held liable for someone cutting themselves on it.
>>28027150
Fucking great.
>>28027178
Well duh, the wire is just the outer perimeter
What the actual hell are you doing to your property?
>>28027193
Protecting it
>>28027193
Come on over neighbor. I promise it's safe.
>>28027197
If you live in America and not next to the Mexican border, you're over compensating.
Hesco or Bremer?
>>28027198
>walk out on front lawn
>see poor nigger blown in half.
my sides
>>28027209
But I want to scream "Gooks in the wire" every time I come home because I'm Asian
>>28027198
What is the legality of having a remote minefield in the states? I figure it's illegal, but how illegal?
>>28027237
In Texas, probably legal
>>28027237
Ridiculously illegal. Setting traps pretty much invalidates any claim of home defense in most jurisdictions. Setting traps with explosive ordinance which is pretty fucking near impossible to come by legally pretty much invalidates any chance of your butthole not getting pounded into oblivion by a white supremacist named Bubba.
>>28027137
Get some of this stuff.
No messy coils to deal with.
>>28027258
>letexasfreedommeme
>>28027266
Tannerite?
>>28027266
So I take that as a solid 'No', along with any traps. What other ways to keep people off property would be legal? Besides the normal stuff like guns
So if I want slat armor on my car, is there a company that would do that or would welding rebar around it be easier?
>>28027281
Moats, walls, dogs, czech hedgehogs
>>28027281
Sturdy walls, ditches/moats, wire and depending on how rural your location an electric fence, though you'd need to keep the voltage within reasonable levels for legality's sake and the sake of your own budget.
>>28027281
Dogbro
Specifically caucasian shepard
>>28027217
The one where the inventor didn't die by falling off a cliff while on a segway.
>>28027310
I love those
>>28027281
nuclear deterrence, or you could make sure they know you'll be armed with a generic NRA sign
Whats the best way to make czech hedgehogs?
>>28027320
That's just asking for people to try to steal my guns while I'm out
>>28027313
So Bremer
I'm now imagining a bunch of /k/ommandos with concertina wire, Bremer walls and trenches around their property, and it makes me want to do it myself
/an/ here.
Git a dog. If it barks when someone enters your property, I highly doubt anyone will stick around.
Bonus points if it's a big, scary breed with a deep bark.
>>28027361
What if I taped a USP to a corgi? Would that work?
>>28027361
That's not nearly as fun, honey.
What would be your dream perimeter, /k/?
>>28027399
Something effective that still looks classy like a high stone wall with something on the top to make it difficult to scale. Something that says to realtors this is still a viable property but says to criminals this is too much trouble.
>>28027377
You'd need some kind of remote firing mechanism. Or perhaps one triggered by the dog's barking.
>>28027388
I know, sweetie, but we really don't have enough dogs. Don't you think we have enough guns and defenses already?
Maybe if we get a big dog it can help with corpse disposal?
>>28027137
You can have it, it's like shooting some one in the leg. Wire won't kill them, just injure them and have them try to sue you.
>>28027399
Lawn replaced with sand
Trenches
Concertina wire
Bremer walls
One roadway in with a guard post
>>28027399
CIWS in the living room pointed out the bay window and nigger-rigged to fire at human-sized movement
>>28027137
You know I actually was thinking if it was legal or not to use those type of wires for your property but I been concerned about laws but in times like these it really doesn't matter what you use to protect your property.
I planned on getting land out in the middle of nowhere and set it up soI can be self ssufficient and not worry about bills or taxes anymore and I planned on setting up a large razor wire fence wall that would run all around my property and run through some high electricity to the point it would turn anything into Kentucky Fried Chicken by just standing close to it and throw in some WW1 style barbe wires all over it and maybe throw in some metal spikes on the ground along the fence so that way my property is safe.
It's just an idea I thought about but I hope to get my own land soon so I don't have to deal with the money issue so much.
>>28027281
I'm sure in a state of emergency you could set up trip wire to light a pack of black cats as an alert. Hell I'd do it during Katrina 2.0
>>28027481
You know you still have to pay property tax right? Just because you move out to bumfuck nowhere and throw up a Republic of Dave flag doesn't mean Uncle Sam isn't going to want his cut.
>>28027399
These
>>28027479
>get multiple
>nigger-rig them to treads
>program them to patrol your property in a circle
>any intruders shot on sight
>>28027538
That would require you to live in LA
>>28027544
>treads
>not a platform of roombas
>>28027507
Until the fucking raccoons ruin all of your based booby traps
>>28027399
Moat filled with unlit napalm with barbed wire on my side and a drawbridge. If some dumb son of a bitch falls and doesn't drown in napalm, he'll sure as hell will burn in it.
>>28027557
>platform of roombas
>not a shitton of Lego robots
>>28027554
Roof Koreans are highly portable
>>28027554
And befriend/abduct a large number of Koreans.
>>28027570
I am Korean and I confirm I am highly portable
>>28027525
Well of course I know that I'm not dumb.
I just want to get away from all the bills and rents you know?
Just set up my own solar panels, water well, food garden and my own home and I plan to do this once I get a large land.
I'm looking at Texas because of how much land they have and as well the fact that I would only have to pay the land tax just once a year for each which I can easily make up the money to pay for it from the welding job once I get one down there hopefully.
I just want to be self sufficient and have money to actually accumulate so I don't have to worry so much about financial issues.
>>28027568
>lego robots
>not a bunch of these and some Mexicans
>>28027588
>programmed to shoot all humans
>hiring Mexicans
>>28027598
>mexicans
>human
On a non sarcastic note, wouldn't RFID identification work?
>>28027544
>bump in the middle of the night
>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
>intruder removed
>eardrums removed
>neighbor's house removed
>>28027583
The land is cheap because it doesn't have viable water sources.
>>28027607
>not sleeping with ear protection knowing that you don't need to listen for intruders while your CIWS-bots are patrolling
>>28027558
Yeah those bastards would get in the way. I'm sure there is something I could cook up for a hurricane
>>28027607
>be teenager
>decide to egg that one creepy guy's house
>he never comes out anyway
>grab friends
>throw eggs
>suddenly massive BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
>eggs shot out of sky with glorious 20x102mm
>white R2-D2 with rotating black dick emerges
>run.jpg
>>28027544
Like dis?
>>28027237
I now imagine a /k/ommando getting one of these and using it to launch t-shirts.
>>28027820
>atf proof house
Where's the fire suppression system and bullet proof dogs? HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>28027820
What's the story on that?
>>28027628
Texas still has water within its borders
It's not all dried up like Saudi Arabia
>>28027237
Mines are on the line of war crime when used by a government. Traps are considered premeditated and don't fall under self defense. So if you lay mines you are probably going to get zip tied and extracted by helicopter by silent men in balaclavas.
>>28027834
>buy dog-shaped balloons
>fill them with water
>>28027481
>times like these
Are you one of these dumbfucks that thinks if a democrat wins the election there's going to be a real civil war?
>>28027598
Just make them wear fursuits so it thinks they are forest animals
>>28027838
And the land that has easy access to potable water isn't cheap. The folks who talk about going off the grid on a budget invariably buy some shit alkali flat that no one wants and then go broke trucking in water.
>>28027876
What if a pack of rampaging furfags pick your house to yiff in? How do you remove furry scum?
>>28027876
>mexicans want work
>tell them to get in the truck
>they hardly speak english
>"put these on"
>they're all in fursuits wondering what the fuck is doing on
>"walk like this"
>they start walking like that
>give them rifle
>"hold this and shoot any intruder you see while walking"
>"por que"
>pay them a fuckton
>>28027897
>furries
>scum
if anything they'd bring guns to defend the perimeter
>>28027436
>dog barks
>pistol fires right over its head
>dog never barks again
![1_MLRS_M270[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/h6imj2p.jpg "1_MLRS_M270[1].jpg")
>>28027221
>>28027221
Fund it.
>>28027870
I think it will get alot harder in the long run but a civil war can happen but not soon as everyone is making it out to be.
I'm not a paranoid tinfoil guy but I'm fully aware that times are going to get alot worse.
I could see getting land around here in Arkansas but I don't like state tax and the fact that Arkansas has more taxes you have to pay is not something I like.
So I'm looking into Texas because the land is cheaper on the long run and the land tax is actually affordable if you have a steady job going that is and really all you beed to do is just set up some rain catchers and add in some purification system ij them and as well dig a well deep into the ground were water is and your good to go.
>>28027481
>I planned on getting land out in the middle of nowhere and set it up soI can be self ssufficient and not worry about bills or taxes anymore
Ruby Ridge, look into it.
>>28028069
I'm not that crazy but I want to have my own land so I can actually live without having to oay for so many bills and rent and also it be nice to grow your own food and have your own electricity and get to shoot off your guns from your front porch.
Who wouldn't love that?
Liberals that's right.
>>28027310
They die quicker and lose mobility quicker than other dogs, such as pitbulls due to their enormous size putting pressure on joints and their hearts failing out because of how hard they have to pump to get blood around the body
>>28027183
I can't think of one good reason to live in a community with a homeowners association.
>people bitching about flags
>people bitching about dead deer getting dragged out of a pickup
>people bitching about mounting a Browning m2 to the top of a humvee
Seriously, fuck homeowners associations.
>>28028103
Those 5 foot fences don't help either when the registered sex offender behind your house tries to make conversation with your gf
>>28028114
I'd only be worried if he was a child molester, my gf is 8
>>28028129
...teen, officer
>>28027481
>no bills
>electric fence
>large property
>no taxes
>>28028131
>>28027217
>Hesco or Bremer?
Pic related is not uncommon in euroland.
You could say it's a viable alternative to HESCO barriers in locations where those would be frowned upon.
>>28028152
I don't really care if it would be frowned upon though
>>28027399
>dream perimeter
offshore, with nukes
>realistic, legal perimeter
Concrete wall surrounding the main premise (the rest of the land would likely only be covered by a fence). Follow by some barricades that stops vehicles from getting too close, like czech hedgehogs or a moat.
My advice is to layer your defenses.
Ideally you want a vehicle barrier as your first layer, than a man stopper like concertina wire and finally a grenade trench to stop incoming grenades being thrown from the man stopper.
Your vehicle barrier should not be good cover for people so ideally hedgehogs or concrete bollards. Man stopper should be tall enough or long enough to keep someone from jumping it, ensure it is staked down to avoid crawling. Grenade trench should be lined with broken glass or other sharp elements to prevent it from becoming cover.
Your fighting position ideally should have a chainlink fence over the firing slit to prevent grenades from being tossed in. You should have a bermed low crawl ditch escape exit from your fighting position, stand on the other side of your mantraps and ensure you cannot be seen while crawling 100yards using this trench.
Fake fighting positions with a pile of compost (thermal), spotlight (optical) and a black broomstick (optical) can also act as a force multiplier. If you want to get advanced you can legally pre-saturate your killing field with electronically triggered parachute flares (look into firework launchers) so you have constant illumination.
Attempt to funnel your targets towards your firing positions using natural (hedges, rocks, slopes) and manmade (concrete walls, hedgehogs, concertina wire) but ensure your funnels do not obstruct your field of fire or view.
>>28028152
I never understood how these are really barriers.
Someone could just sneak up at night with a wire cutter, and literally all the rocks would fall out. Why not something more solid?
>>28027137
Legal and 'not going to get sued so deeply into debt that you will have to sell the fillings from your teeth just the pay the lawyers to seize your belongings' are two very different things.
>>28028208
>sneak up to a defended position
Ideally not
>All the rocks would fall out
They are sort of stacked in there so a single hole would not kill the entire thing
>Just cut it
See above, you would have to cut a lot.
>>28028225
Assuming this is your only defense and you don't have 24/7 guards or motion detectors (although the latter are easy to get), someone can stick around for an hour just cutting through all the wire. Then last minute, pull a few stones out and watch it all collapse while running away.
If you're really this worried someone may attack you, don't you think they'd go the extra mile? If I was going to attack someone, I'd first try to defeat that barrier.
Won't fortifications make people want to go into your property even more?
>>28028245
>If you're really this worried someone may attack you, don't you think they'd go the extra mile?
Then ideally you should have a patrol or guard guy
How effective is razor wire?
>>28028282
Employed how?
Alone?
On a fence?
On a wall or structure?
>>28027258
I make OK money, and have a fiancee, and live a normal life, but I would drink the blood of 100 homeless men to spend the rest of my life with that woman.
>>28028282
Great for shaving several beards at once.
Also good for defense, though I can't be certain.
>>28027557
this one is the best, that way you have your floor cleaned at the same time.
>>28028293
>tattoos
>>28027557
My mom had a roomba,I fucking hated it.
> mom sets it to go at 10am while she's at work
> wakes me up every fucking time as it runs into walls and generally makes a ton of noise
I can't destroy it because then she will make me vacuum
>>28028309
believe me man, I am against tattoos, women with tattoos are bad news. but if somehow that bitch wasnt crazy and was loyal, id bury my face in her ass and breath slow, forever.
but this is fantasy land, and women like that are usually fat.
>>28028103
People get into homeowners associations for unknown reasons and then get tied into contracts that make them sell the house only to someone who will join the association. Pretty cancerous.
>>28028317
>>28028336
Is /r9k/ here?
This is just short of mentioning tendies and roasties
>>28028413
That's pretty neet if you ask me.
Why is 4chan so fucking gay when it comes to tattoos
this must be literally the only place other than old folks' homes where people hate tattoos
>>28028446
Just a couple vocal retards
>>28028446
I see military tattoo threads sometimes.
>>28027178
Concertina is fucking nasty shit... We had to try to scale a triple concertina barricade in the army, i have never bled that much in my life
>>28027137
What is the legality of bear traps for animal trapping in areas with few to no bears?
I mean, it isn't like I am going to hide them, but what type of warnings do I have to put up to make them legal?
>>28027826
>t-shirts
Fuck that, rig it to launch nuggets w/ bayonets
>>28027563
>no body
>no evidence
>no lawsuit
>>28027938
Kek
>shoelace gets caught in it
>wellp, better amputate my entire leg
>>28027544
My friend i am already working on it
>>28028282
If you layer them and add in barbed wire and iron pickets for support it will be a pain to remove.
>>28028645
Cant bangalors breach them?
>>28027281
Clean yard with good lighting and signs. Or enough messy and scary looking yard.
>>28028652
That's what they were made for.
>>28028446
I am the guy above here: >>28028336
I like tattoos, I have 20 of them. I just have never met a woman with more than two tattoos that wasn't a fucking slut, and batshit insane.
>>28027320
But you don't want them to know you're armed. Think about it
>NRA sign
>criminals know you're armed and go away
>somebody else gets robbed instead
>no sign
>criminals break into your property
>they never rob anybody ever again
>>28027281
>Make yourself one of these puppies, getting into RC isn't hard nowadays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE8uHvQ-oSQ
>Remove fire extinguisher
>Put in some bear mace
>The hard part : program to send a large "FUCK YOU" spray over intruders
>>28028695
> implying either of these are a bad thing
Sluts and crazies fuck the best.
>>28028152
that actually looks nice, almost artistic imo. colorful hanging flowers on top with C-wire hidden in would be best.
>>28028225 the cage could be made of a somewhat hardened gauge of steel so you'd need more than wire cutters and labor hours to defeat it
>>28027276
I read that as 'Latex as free domme me'. Holy shit, I need to see.
>>28027137
static defenses are totally legal. Active traps are not.
Don't go mining, don't go build trip wires linked to grenades, don't even go putting lethal traps like bear traps that could catch somebody and do bodily harm. Snares, non-lethal traps, warning traps, anything that's not gonna have a chance of killing somebody you're good for, but in most states putting in something that kids wandering onto your property can accidently trip and kill or maim themselves will get the authorities down on you for criminal negligence amongst other things.
>>28028959
oh, and in some states even nonlethal traps require you to get a trapping license, because they're going to be killing certain animals. Anything more worse than one of those cage traps they use to grab strays or racoons is gonna get you in trouble in those states.
>>28027671
>>28027869
Fill them with tannerite and red jello for when the ATF comes and shoots your dog.
>>28028805
Until they decide to fuck up your life.
Oops I got evicted from my apartment, I'll live with you!
Oops I can't pay my bills because I spent my money on tattoos, I need your help to financially support me!
Oops no birth control....
>>28028201
Thank you for the advice
>>28028805
Lol you want crazies around when you have guns?
Last thing I want to be fucking when there are guns around is NoMeds McDaddyissues.
>>28027316
Imagine fucking one of those
>>28028658
So if I cover my yard with sand and Czech hedgehogs, we good?
>>28028959
>>28028975
So if I have flare launches rigged to trip wire and pressure switches, we're g2g?
>>28029104
>Oops no birth control....
>not always doubling up with condoms
You know that like 1 in a hundred woman get pregnant on the pill per year right?
>>28029067
fucking gold
>>28028079
Its such a shame that the american left has taken the name of liberal and mutated it to mean what they do instead of actual liberalism.
>>28028293
tattoos, dyed black hair and fake tits. ya youd spend like a year with her before she'd cheat on you, divorce you and get all your stuff. she looks like she'd be a crazy hair stylist name jessica or something.
>>28028544
>climbing over concertina wire in training
Was this before or after they made you care for a puppy and then kill it with your bare hands?
pretty sweet idea if you live in rural areas in the central valley, CA
>>28029230
im sure some 24 year old girl DA graduated out of uc davis would try to do something to you if some poor hispanic 25 year old children were to injure themselves on your wire
>>28028959
>putting in something that kids wandering onto your property can accidently trip and kill or maim themselves will get the authorities down on you for criminal negligence amongst other things
Not to mention if the police, fire department, or paramedics have to legitimately break down your door to get to you and help you, they're not going to be happy to have their legs blown off by a shotgun you've rigged to a tripwire.
>>28029157
>flare launchers
>shooting fire at people is non-lethal
How fucking retarded are you?
>>28028293
Just because she has fake tits?
Damn, son.
>>28029221
but itd be worth it
>>28027399
Fence consisting of those big steel bulkheads they use to make seawalls. Seismic intrusion sensors. Gas pipe along the outside wall, open a valve coupled with an ignition device and anyone trying to scale gets cooked.
>>28029241
>implying it's launching at the people
It's to provide alert and illumination of the outside area in the case of an intruder intruding at night.
>>28029191
>implying she won't kek you and declare you the father anyway
"those condoms you used must have been defective."
>>28029265
You know if she takes at least half your stuff it'd probably include stuff you'd really want to keep, like your guns.
Plus with the possibility of alimony (and child support) you might not be able to replace them.
So no, not worth it.
>>28027399
>>28027258
I like her tactitties.
easily scalable walls
Maybe 8 feet high only
Top of the walls contains
Broken injections/glass from medical hosp
Maybe even snake venom
Maybe even aids
Mix with small layer of cement just to point
Shards upwards
They kill you they die afterwards
>>28029379
man alimony is the worst, i know guys paying alimony to hos that have had a live in boyfriend 2 days after the married couple split. can you imagine paying a ho a grand a month so she can go off and use it on vacations with her live in boyfriend.
>>28027837
Another FSB&Police raid on house of another Dagestan terrorist. Houses in that area has double layer brick walls. RPGs, GM-93/94 and 30mm cannons are best friends of law enforcement in that region.
>>28028152
i would just skip the stones, make a mold around that and pour concrete in.
>>28029437
your venom and aids would wash off, but it sounds like venice.
>>28028317
>He lives with his mom
>>28027838
>Texas still has water within its borders
Which will all be gone in 20 years from the meme farmers up north continually raping the aquifer with their retarded practices for shit that very few people benefit from.
>>28027820
It burns itself down with no need for the ATF?
>>28027258
Who is this??
>>28027281
Trip-wire firecrackers. When you're a space invader you're on pretty high alert for any reason to jump ship.
>>28029622
Don't forget the rice farmers down river, and the rich fucks sucking out the lakes to water their fucking lawns in Austin.
Thick stone wall made of limestone with concrete underneath for stability and to resist tunneling surrounds the property. A 10 ft wide 7ft deep ditch surrounds the wall. Concertina Wire across the top of the wall. Cut down trees all around the property to help with visibility and to remove the possibility of a rope swing. Fill the ditch with broken glass, sharpened sticks/bamboo stuck into the bottom, tire spikes, rusty nails, anything sharp around the house. Fill the ditch with Snapping Turtles for a food source and further deterrence. What do you guys think?
>>28029718
Don't forget to shit in the ditch
>>28027538
roof top Koreans, the best Koreans
>>28027221
Haha
>>28029604
hey man i still live at home, rent in CA is 1500 for a single bed dump.
>>28027327
lights on a timer, radio playing. Most burglars will nope away occuppied buildings. Street visible CCTV camera & burglar alarm also deter, proximty lights. Neighbourhood watch sticker, no cold callers & beware of dog (with pic of pitbull/german shephard whatevers not small & yappy) signs on gate also advised. Bell on gate too. All these thing cost little and will put off more random folk than nothing will.
Have your normal fence then an aearth mound/trench surrounding your property. Plant brambles on outer facing side of mound (mke sure it doesn't go over fence line. You can claim to be helping the local wildlife.
>>28027436
>mail man at the door
>dog runs to the door going nuts
>door is shredded along with what remains of the mail man
>>28029226
Дa, тoвapищ
>>28029832
From experience black berries work wonders. You can plant them in a perimeter and they will keep out most people. You can once again claim to be helping the wildlife. Plus you get that sweet jam.
>>28027137
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http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/29/homeowner-lights-fire-hears-screams-kills-burglar-stuck-in-chimney-5533273/#mv-b
>>28029668
ahem...
>>28029718
Oh and a couple dogs on the inside. I was also thinking of making the entrance a wooden dock with those 55 gallon barrels at the bottom so it floats. I was thinking of rigging up a mechanism where I could use chains to pull it up over the entrance like a drawbridge. I was also going to lay sand on the other side of the ditch to impede movement and provide a place where the snapping turtles could lay eggs. How paranoid am I?
>>28028248
Only the criminals
Locked gates only stop honest people.
If you have a wall + locked gate, shoot anyone not invited.
>>28029908
Black Berry bushes are great for attracting children with gloves and buckets to hand around your property.
>They never see it coming when you sneek up behind them with a mask on
>scream in their face
>and [spoiler]nospoilerson/k/ steel their buckets when they run off[/spoiler]
>>28029943
So what's the legality of making something like a ready to go booby trap?
Are lethal booby traps one of those things that are legal to possess, but not to use?
>>28029191
>double up on condoms
You know that makes them less effective not more, right?
>>28028013
>land tax is actually affordable
>mfw my 5 acres 30 mins from major city was $6.72 in taxes b/c ag exempt first year. Now it's $1200.
Make sure it's > 10 acres.
>>28029457
And women wonder why no men want to settle down nowadays. I'll give you a hint ladies, it's because you've made marriage the legal equivalent of sticking our dicks in a bear trap.
>>28027399
Large property. Bramble in a whole square around the property, nice and low-key and still aesthetically pleasing. A normal waist or chest-high rock wall with some pleasant gates inside that. The only breaks in that perimeter are a couple breaks for walking paths and a driveway.
Motorized, 10ft. tall sheer walls with coiled Concertina wire attached to the top that unfurls when the walls rise from the ground, and all pieces of mechanization on the inside of the walls to ensure no grip to climb the outside. Counter-weighted 4ft trench in front of the wall. If anyone somehow manages to get over the wall and wire, they will probably fall into the bramble, and then have to scramble over the other wall.
The only break in this wall is a single section that can open and extend a draw bridge dead-center with the front of the house, quite a distance back.
Cameras, timed lights, typical security system for general work where I can't throw up the walls for whatever reason. Keep a bunch of sandbags and Hesco bastions on hand to fortify within the walls in like a SHTF scenario. Have a good dog and guns everywhere.
This is, of course, overkill, but just a good general house setup if I'm incredibly rich. Might install armed robot sentries at some point if that becomes viable.
Lets the house be very, very secure while still being nice and non-threatening at most times of day. Though really, might want to just look at how they secure mansions in Hollywood or something.
>>28028103
HOAs are all about
>muh property value
What your neighborhood looks like effects your property value, what your neighboors do with their property effects what the neighborhood looks like. The idea is to prevent people in the neighborhood from doing things that will negatively effect the value of all of the houses in the area like:
>renting to lowlifes
>painting their house an absurd color
>leaving derelict vehicles on the lawn/in front of the house
>>28030471
>renting to lowlifes
>painting their house an absurd color
>leaving derelict vehicles on the lawn/in front of the house
And I choose not to be a part of an HOA because fuck you I can do that to my property if I want to.
>>28028727
More like
>NRA sign
>break in while you're at work (which is what they do anyway)
>know to look for guns to steal
>>28030500
Damn straight, HOAs are anti-american. This is my property, I bought it with the money I earned, it is mine to do with as I please.
>>28029943
fucked if I know but i'd assume it was legally dodgy as you have no idea what it'll fire at. you could use blanks
>>28030161
could you but into smaller parcels and have the other two owned by off the shelf shell companies?
>>28028412
Could you gift (not sell) the house to someone who gifts it back to you? That would get you out of the HOA and the giftee is't bound by the HOA rules. I'd suggest you have a gun on the person you gift it to until they gift it back though.
>>28028013
>rain catchers
The cheap land in TX doesn't have any water sources, largely because it doesn't rain very much in those areas
>>28030519
1 in 3 break-ins happen with someone home.
>>28030500
You can obviosly choose not to live in an HOA, I would never deal with them, but it seems like nobody ITT knows why they exist and I'm attempting to explain the thinking behind them. You'll find it easier to get along with people if you understand that they have a reason for doing the things that they do, you might not like their reasoning, it might honestly be a shitty reason, but they don't think it is and theyre not doing whatever they are doing just to piss you off.
>>28030614
Thats not the majority
>>28027399
50+ acres of land in rural bumfuck nowhere Texas
Outer boundary of the property is just a basic, 4 foot cedar post and barbwire fence. Some no trespassing signs, and the only gate is the entrance gate at the front of the property.
Then, a hundred (or two hundred) feet from this fence, is another cedar and barbwire fence, 5 foot tall. In between this fence and the outer fence is a bunch of purposefully planted heavy brush; think mesquite, poison oak/ivy, all sorts of thorny vines, and maybe some stinging trees. Maybe leave some rusted as fuck old barbed wire running across the ground in various places, or broken bottles and shards of glass. Only gate to get into this area is at the front entrance.
The next fence is an additional 100 feet from the last fence and is made out of some big cedar posts with small wire mesh and topped with barbed wire on top, 7 foot high in total. The area between this fence and the last fence is completely open, and is subdivided into multiple sections with a smaller 4 foot fence running from this fence to the last fence (see pic related). These sections would be used for cattle and other livestock raising and there would be a couple of steel gates on this fence.
The inside of the 7 foot tall fence would be divided into 2 areas by another 7 foot fence: crop growing area and the general living area. The general living area includes barns, utility buildings, cabins, etc. Inside of the general living area is the final perimeter: 8 foot high concrete "privacy" wall that encloses the area around the main house and the 60 foot tall windturbine, with a crow's nest and a small workshop at the base.
The whole point of so many damn fences would be to slow attackers down and make the risk/reward too imbalanced, redirecting them to easier targets. Also the open livestock pens create a no-mans land that can be covered by snipers in the crow's nest, the tops of the barns or second story of the house.
>>28030544
>could you but into smaller parcels and have the other two owned by off the shelf shell companies?
it's not a corporate thing, in texas Ag Exempt is for properties > 10 acres. After you have livestock for X years (3?), you convert it to "birdwatching" for ag exempt.
>>28030544
>Could you gift (not sell) the house to someone who gifts it back to you? That would get you out of the HOA and the giftee is't bound by the HOA rules. I'd suggest you have a gun on the person you gift it to until they gift it back though.
can't do this b/c deed restrictions "run with the property" so every transfer has them until they expire (usually years if ever)
>>28027221
40 keks
>>28027137
Depends on where you live. There is no federal law, and no state laws that I know of. However, I know for instance that Newark, New Jersey was trying to ban razor wire because it was ugly and made the place look like a prison or warzone. I'm sure there are plenty of towns and cities where things like razor wire or fences of similar materials would he against the laws or ordinances. Surely most home owners associations would never allow it.
But if you own some fairly rural land you could get away with it, as long as it wasn't concealed, and properly marked. So no digging ditches and filling them with wire toake tiger traps or any of that insane autistic nonsense.
Imagine your house caught on fire and the fore fighters were coming, of your property presents an unreasonable danger to them (traps, hidden pits behind walls, concealed razor wire etc) you would definitely be breaking laws.
>>28027137
>>28031983
>>28027361
/an/ speaks the truth, but we aren't trying to be practical here, we just want to have cheeki breeki fun
>>28031097
I like it.
So according to this chart, dry sand has a higher bullet resistance than wet sand? Am I understanding this correctly?
>>28027913
this plan is absolutely ironclad
>>28028013
Arkansas is definitely a better place to be than Texas in the event of global fucking.
>plentiful game
>better agricultural land
>plentiful forest
>plentiful water sources
You would have major issues securing enough water if you live on cheap land in Texas. Any land with good water access is going to be at least as expensive as anywhere else.
I disagree with you that things are going to get worse, the world has been getting better and better for decades. Our biggest threat right now is climate change.
>>28028135
disregard him, he's just your typical /k/ /pol/ retard it seems
>>28028152
These are an actual viable option for those of you autistic enough to consider putting hesco barrier in your yard. Rock gabions are relatively attractive landscaping features. Hesco barriers are something delusional people who bomb mosques have.
>>28029581
Why do they do that?
>>28032391
I'm not the kind of person who bombs mosques, I just want the military chic kind of house
>>28028201
/thread
>>28028208
It would take you a few minutes to cut enough wire for the rocks to spill out, still slowing you down, and you would make a huge amount of noise dumping several hundred pounds of rocks on the ground.
>>28032420
>try to climb up wall
>throw hand ontop and apply pressure
Rip
>>28028589
>destroying the body constitutes no evidence
You are going to get locked up for a sloppy murder someday anon
>>28028628
sick
>>28028103
has its upsides and downsides and depends on the situation. In your newer suburban development when you are 10-15 from your neighbors house, in my opinion they are essential. If you are more rural and you aren't forced to be stare at your neighbors broke down pick up truck, smelly ass chicken coupe and bright yellow house because its 100'-200' away then it doesnt matter as much.
>>28029718
>>28029946
just start a turtle refuge in your yard desu, that should be enough
>>28031983
interesting that wet sand is worse than dry sand
>>28032003
why am i not supposed to wring it out?
>>28028446
It's /pol/'s influence mostly
>>28029221
Great, now every slut I see with tats is instantly going to register as Jessica, the crazy fucking hair stylist.
>>28030107
>blackberry
>not building a wall of military-grade thorn like Russian Olive
Blackberry is great if you can irrigate often to get those good thumb+ thick canes but shit like Russian Olive, Cat's Claw, Black Locust, Hawthorn, etc have it much superior barbing.
>>28033971
> implying they didn't already.
>>28033987
>Russian Olive...etc
Shouldn't some of those be considered invasive species?
>>28027913
10/10 retarded enough to be funny when it fails and even funnier if it works.
>>28033987
>>28034692
Russian olive is introduced in much of the US, it has the potential to be invasive because it fixes its own nitrogen but it's not a particularly voracious grower. Cat's claw is native to the Amazon and therefore difficult to grow in the US unless you live in south Florida. Definitely not a good choice for a passively growing obstacle. Black locust is native to the southeast US but is invasive elsewhere; it grows as a tree, so while it does have thorns, it's not a very good obstacle either (it has excellent wood though if you're interested in felling it in a few decades). Of those you mentioned, hawthorn would make the best obstacle, but it is the most invasive one you listed, assuming you live in the US. It would certainly make a good natural obstacle if you live in Europe though.
>>28027399
>>28028544
Because you're a retard. You are supposed to bridge the wire at a connecting point with a log (or a team mate).
>>28027266
>invalidates any chance of your butthole not getting pounded into oblivion by a white supremacist named Bubba.
And that's just while they're serving the warrant.
>>28034944
I wish I was enough of an autist to build this in Minecraft.
>>28027281
Turn your property into a MGS mission and hope Snake isn't the one trying to get in.
>>28027281
Great huge piles of shit. Make it look like you have a pack of Great Danes with IBS. Scatter that shit everywhere.
You can get amazingly lifelike fakes in Tijuana. Each one painstakingly made and painted by hand. They're plaster, so they have some good heft to them.
>>28027221
Start a gofundme and /k/ will grant you your wish.
>>28027399
Clamore mines with a delay fuse and a speaker. It blares out "CHEEKI BREEKI" and then they all die.
>>28027137
Put it on top of a chain link fence. Make the chain link tall enough so that no one standing on the ground can come in contact with it.
>>28028245
The rocks don't fall out easily at all, their shape and friction, with all the weight bearing down basically makes it impossible for them to move unless you cut the entire thing open and manually dig out the rocks so they keep dropping down until a stack is emptied.
You're really underestimating the things. Not to mention someone doing that would be incredibly loud and obvious.
>>28027274
its actually kinda pretty
>>28027645
Why are you trying to set a booby trap for a hurricane? What did they ever do to you?
>>28036046
I had one try to rock me one time.
>>28028303
To say nothing about the fact that it cleans up any intruders it may happen to liquefy
>>28035055
It wouldn't take too long in creative mode
>>28029778
Depends on where at. In Humboldt 1500 will get you a decent 2 bed, 2 bath. Or even a small house.
Unless you're within 10 miles of HSU.
>>28028152
this, but with human skulls instead of rocks
>>28027266
just imagine
>rat problem
>I set mouse traps in places
>home intruder breaks into my house
>steps on mousetrap
>trips and breaks neck
>mfw BLM, ATF, and FBI rape my ass
>>28030500
But there is a consequence, mainly that your property values go down. A lot with junkers and graffiti and niggers is going to go down and value, and it also lowers the property value of your neighbors. So imagine how you'd feel if you were going to go sell your house but you couldn't because no one wants to live next to the guy with gallows in his front yard. HOAs ensure that everybody in the neighborhood keeps the value as high as possible on their home. Also not allowing niggers, loose animals, broken cars and shit makes it feel safer for the kids.
>>28028103
what happens if you do actually piss off a home owners association?
They're just a group of your peers right? no legal power?
>>28027137
It's legal, but you'd be liable for injuries if someone hurts themselves on it. Not a lawyer, but a good legal standard is whether or not a "reasonable person" could injure themselves.
Can someone trip and fall into your razor wire?
Could someone lean on it without realizing what it is?
Could someone walk into it in the dark?
Could it disconnect and fall into a sidewalk or roadway?
Does it present a danger to workers servicing raised or buried utilities?
Is it obvious to anyone and everyone where the wire is?
Would it be possible for a deaf, dumb, blind kid to find his way into your wire?
Concertina wire is an abnormally dangerous item. If you were ever called to answer before a judge or jury, you'll want to have two very good answers to these questions:
1) Why is concertina wire necessary (as opposed to just a fence or barricade)? Do you live in a high crime neighborhood? Are you storing valuable equipment?
2) Why does the answer to #1 outweigh the public interest in safety?
>>28027588
I used to use those in occupational therapy when I was a kid. Those are fun.
>>28036354
In most places, they have enough power to actually sell your house for disagreeing with them.
>>28036384
why do they call it that when kids are too young to have an occupation?
>>28029581
This shit was literally on every house in Venezuela.
>>28027237
the hell is it doing
>>28036354
They can take you to court if you broke something in the HOA paperwork because that's an actual contract.
>>28036529
renewing the 60 million land mine restraining order between north and south korea.
>>28036534
What if you're not part of it and everyone around you is?
>>28028565
>largest game of lawn darts played unwillingly.
>>28036604
I'm pretty sure you won't be able to get in without agreeing to become part of the shitfest that is a homeowner's association
>>28027399
Walls of Babylon, only with sunk steel bars in the fucking river to keep out invading protokebab.
>>28027399
>What would be your dream perimeter, /k/?
Thousands of miles of land or sea space over which to conduct a fighting retreat. Buffer space.
>>28027274
>bolt cutters
