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You see gregov, if mount TV on gun, can play tetris when wait for kebab to remove.
>>28011695
so its a 20lbs version of pic related?
>>28011695
>blanks
>bfa
Probably some retarded form of miles.
>>28011832
Stop with this cringeworthy pretend to speak broken English with a Russian accent and mixed up word placement nonsense. It's not funny and never was, it's just embarrassing.
>>28011832
Kek
>>28011901
It IS funny and only a vatnik would get butthurt over it
>>28011901
You seem agitated friend.
>>28011695
>scope
>>28011901
calm down desu senpai bruh
>>28011901
I agree the meme was DOA
>>28011912
IS NOT FUNNY. WE DONT TALKING LIKE THAT!
>>28011912
>vatnik
This word's way overused on today's /k//
>>28011901
But see comrade, when speak english like so, vatnik buttocks heat up and be cause of amusing noise makings from vatnik's mouth.
>>28011912
It really isn't funny, it's so overdone you might as well just post 'it's over 9000' in every thread. That's what kind of person you are.
>>28011930
Would...would this work?
>>28011901
but is funny tovarish
>>28011978
You see komrad, when you try to kill the meme, you just become the meme.
>>28011979
I want to know this too. Can someone try this?
>>28011978
>>28011998
You can't even do it correctly you imbecile, you're typing normal english but placing commas where they don't need to be.
>>28011695
Where is this pic from? What is the "WS" watermark in the right-top corner?
How de fuck do these photos get leaked!?
>>28011939
Is ok ivan. Meme will never be of dying.
>>28011824
Radar
>>28011841
Not gonna lie, was expecting a larger screen on the operator's side of thing.
>>28011695
wtf???
>>28012076
its a $600 doppler radar system, what do you expect, a ipad strapped to the back of it?
>>28011979
>>28012000
In what way do you see it working? If you manage to 'fire' it it's a face full of rocket exhaust and it goes somewhere wherever it wants. If you mean launch it via bow and have it go bang upon landing you'll have a hard time managing the minimum arming distance for the warhead. Which is for the best since the minimum distance exists to stop retards blowing their own faces entirely off.
If you want to launch explosive somethings via bow you can probably do alot better niggerigging something together that's both lighter and has more 'usefull' explosives and less pointless rocket motor.
>>28012000
>>28011979
Of course not. The missile isn't armed until the engine is ignited and it has flown for a few meters.
>>28012079
It's a flare.
>>28012087
why do they have it and how does it works?
>>28011979
The rocket motor wouldn't actually fire, but if the cap was taken off it could detonate if it hit something. Probably not going to fly very far or be very stable though.
>>28012082
>>28012086
What if you modified it though?
I've also heard really cheap Chinese RPG warheads have really shitty safety and eyewitness that a guy ran with an RPG-7, tripped, and the warhead exploded because it hit the ground hard.
>>28011930
>not doing it the American Way
>throwing it like a football
>>28012086
Could you modify the arming switch to use one of those dumb bomb arming propellers that unscrew as the bomb flies?
>>28011695
So this is the famous S-400 they are talking about lately
A bit overhiped if you ask me
>>28012157
From the factory RPG grenades have a cap which covers the impact fuse. The caps are supposed to be left on until just before firing to avoid the sort of problem you described. Untrained combatants often remove the caps prematurely.
>>28011695
So what the fuck is this? A radar rifle scope????
>>28012115
its a fucking flare lol jesus christ just use the flare switch on your iphone or android mobile device
portable recon radar
>>28012157
>>28012223
Here you can see the cap.
>>28012157
Can a RPG/missile fail and detonate the warhead without reaching the intended minimum distance? Sure if just the right (wrong) failure occurs it can happen, but it's also pretty damn unlikely.
As for modifying it to disable all safety features you certainly could, but you're still left with an incredibly heavy thing to be launching by bow. If you go that path then better still to cannibalise the thing for the explosives and detonator, and attach as much as possible to something overall far lighter and more suited to bow launching. Unless you have something more like an arbalest lying around, in which case it might just be able to sling the whole thing far enough to not certainly kill yourself.
>>28012232
A radar range finder.
>>28012157
It's highly unlikely that the bow will be able to toss it any further than you could throw it, it's simply too heavy to work well.
Modifying the nose fuse so it's sensitive enough to go off from something like this would make it a very, very dangerous thing to be around.
Setting off the expeller charge out in the open isn't going to do anything much. Ignite the rocket motor with the rocket pointing in some direction only roughly pointed towards the enemy, and likely rotating, and God alone knows where the damn thing will run off to.
So if you want maimed and killed Russian conscripts, yeah, it can work. But you can get that done much better by mixing equal parts methanol, formaldehyde and water and distributing as moonshine vodka.
>>28011979
>>28012000
>get AT grenade
>remove parachute
>attach grenade to arrow shaft
>use big fuckoff longbow for extra range
>use high angle fire
Yeah, it could work. Would it be worth the effort? probably not.
>>28012086
I though you took off the end cap and it was good to go. I dont have any first hand experience but ian and forgotten weapons said that once the caps off rocket go boom so i guess it could work
>>28012115
????????
>>28011901
Stupid poor Russian
>>28012050
>leaked
Photoshoots dumbass
>>28012115
What?
Why now? How does a flare work?
>>28012251
>>use big fuckoff longbow for extra range
That bow is about what you'll need to get any range whatsoever. And RKG-3 grenade is over a kilogram, say 2lbs without the chute. The heavy arrows used with that longbow when hitting hard was much more important than shooting far? A quarter pound. Normal arrows for such a bow being perhaps half of that.
Our anti tank arrow will fly like a penguin.
>>28012327
>Our anti tank arrow will fly like a penguin.
So pretty well then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4
>>28012238
why not leave the cap on it? Its just plastic it will be squashed on impact anyway
>>28011951
Just like nigger, libbies/libtards, funs, PLATFORM, amerilard/americlap, europoor are.
Stop being so butthurt vatnik.
>>28011901
Why would Russians speak in English between themselves ?
>>28012559
The cap doesn't need to be removed. It's just to protect the tip in transit.
>>28012242
No, you remove the "milk cap"(actual field term!), and drop them onto the thinner top armor of a tank like Zeus with thunderbolts. This could be done from buildings bridges or for the handy minded, with a string tied around the motor section and dropped with a tripwire.
Sorry to kill the fun here, but this thread is hurting me.
So, not all warheads on RPG-7s use the same fuzing, but the most common ones you're going to find on Soviet/FSR/Russian standard HEAT warheads are going to be some model of the AF family of fuzes. So I'm going to focus on those because those and the Chinese copies, which are functionally the same are the bulk of non-tandum, HEAT warheads.
AF fuzes have two parts, the Piezoelectric generator (PEG) in the nose, and the Safety and Detonating Mechanism (SDM) in the rear.
The PEG is just an electric crushcap. The actual detonator is in the SDM. The detonator has two initiation means, the primary is the electrical signal from the PEG, and the secondary is a physical, burning time delay initiated by firing the warhead.
BOTH methods of initiation are segregated from the detonator by a physical metal block. That block only releases when the rocket achieves a high enough velocity and acceleration, which is provided really only through firing.
>>28014748
Shut up nerd
>>28011979
>>28012000
was watching forgoten weapons ian said the as soon as the cap hit it blows up so yes it would work
he said a story about some guy runnning with one falling and the tip hitting the pavment and it blowing him up
>>28014949
That seems highly unlikely, as stated above about how the AF fuzes work.
The only way that seems even plausible is with an OG-7 using O-4M (or variant). That is the only warhead I can possibly think of which is purely point detonated and doesn't have any kind of setback or firing initiated safety.
The firing system for an OG-7 is an extremely simplified design, and much different from any of the HEAT warheads.
Also, pics or it didn't happen.
>>28011901
you see igor when you speak of english you are of the comedy desu senpai
>>28012115
>why do they have it and how does it works?
To illuminate things
>how does it works?
It fucking lights on fire
>>28011901
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>>28011695
SIGMA
It's a type of battle network/combat management system that's like AEGIS except it's not limited to ships.
An example is the T-14, data from its AESA radar and other optics will be compiled in a separate command vehicle allowing the commander to receive data from other tanks and paint the battlefield.
It's the same with this, it doesn't give direct assistance to the gunner, it gives data to a higher up as to how the gunner should attack.
>>28017604
But why would you mount it to a gun?
>>28011901
You seem to be a little butt frustrated there friend.
>>28017645
Do you can message your enemy "lol I'm shooting you" as you shoot them
>>28014748
We've all seen videos of jihadists dying while firing an RPG. Usually it looks like everything functioned properly, but some kind of blast knocks the guys down and they don't get up. Is the rocket on the warhead firing prematurely?
>>28012322
The enlarged head and head shape acts as a plug to keep semen in the mare's vagina.
>>28011930
couldn't you nigger rig HE rpg rounds as improvised potato masher style grenades
>>28018055
I'm not sure without seeing the videos. There are plenty of videos I've seen of people dying/being injured by RPG-7 launcher backblast. That could injury somebody behind the person firing, or in a confined space, could injury the person firing.
RPG-7 warheads, aside from OG-7s, have safe-arm distances. The nose caps everybody keeps talking about serve two purposes:
1. Redundant safety.
2. Protect the PEG during shipping. If a PEG gets crushed before the SDM is armed, what you're left with is a dud round. It will fire, but won't properly detonate when it hits a target, since the PEG is a 1-time use element.
So yeah, a lot of these posts talking about dropping RPG-7 warheads at tanks off a bridge and such are nonsense. I assume these kinds of myths are corrupted knowledge where people have either heard a military serve member talking nonsense and believed it unquestioningly, or just a plain misunderstanding stemming from confusing things like RKGs with RPG-7 warheads.
>>28012115
You unscrew the cap on the bottom to reveal a string. You pull sharply on the string. Inside the flare, this pulls a friction match, which lights the burnable flare compound.
>>28017645
Micro management. Just like the FELIN cameras.
>>28012242
you're not listening.
russian rpgs do not have a "minimum safe distance"
it has an impact fuse
the warhead could be in the launcher with you holding it and if someone takes a hammer to the fuse on the front it would detonate
>>28019424
>>28019258
so which one is it?
first person to give reliable sources wins
google reverse search says it's PSNR-8M. ground radar for low visibility conditions
>>28019576
What's the smallest radar-seeking missile in the US inventory? Is there a shoulder-fired one?
>>28019576
>When you tactically tape your tactically taped tactical tape grip all the way to the tactical cheekrest, also made of tactical tape
>>28011695
its that a radar ?
>>28019474
Ok, so, I'm specifically limiting discussion to AF series fuzes, since there is a lot of variation. However, AF series and the Chinese copies are going to be the most common, and, I think, representative of a "generic" RPG-7 warhead fuze.
I apoligize for the disparate sources, but finding a comprehensive and thorough explanation of the minutia of fuzes is hard on open source.
So here is a link showing the fuzes seperate from the round, and showing that there is a safety element (the SDM):
http://www.forthungary.com/web/index.php/hu/af73-sdm-71-and-peg-71-af74-sdm-91-and-peg-91-af78-sdm-72-and-peg-71
I've attached a cutaway picture of the base fuze element of a 7V warhead, which shows how the safety mechanism works. In short, there are a number of springs which must be overcome by setback force, and once they are overcome, the firing channels lock open allowing a route for either the primary or secondary initiation system to reach the detonator.
It would be highly unusual to issue an explosive round with an integrated fuzing system that does not have some sort of safety mechanism dependent on firing. Yet again, going back the exception of the OG-7, the reason there is no setback is because the fuze is a seperate element screwed into the nose. It is also an overall simpler and reduced design mean only for HE and fragmentation dispersal, and not HEAT, and it is not representative of how any RPG-7 HEAT warheads are fuzed.
>>28019605
>carrying a blackity black tactical weapon in a non Blackity black tactical matte dark environment
Seriously dude....it's like you're not even trying.
>>28016742
Is this a fucking pasta? Because if it isn't, it is now.
>Some faggot posts archaic meme that hasn't been funny since 2009, if it ever was.
>Some other faggot tells him lame memes are lame and cringey, because they are.
>All the memespouters band together to whiteknight faggot#1 by telling faggot#2 that he is mad.
Frankly, I think you should all be sent to the camps, but faggot#2 is right. Fake Russian shit, as well as that Ivan Chesnokov all-caps shit, was literally never funny.
>>28019576
Tactical squat. Way to defy sterotypes.
>>28014748
what about dropping it from a building though
could that propel it to "Kaboom is A-OK" velocity?
>>28019695
>black
>in lowlight situation
it's like you're not trying.
>>28011901
Why are you of such butthurtings comrade?
>Has never heard a Russian try to speak English before.
They literally speak out of order like that.
>>28011901
ho vladimir, look at ass pigeon, here
>>28012249
is this nigger serious?
>>28019675
operation flashpoint background
>>28022075
>>28019576
When your thermal imaging industry is so crap, you resort to good ol-fashioned radar for night fighting.
Looks like Russia will never close the flir gap with the west.
>>28011695
"Russian army use also close combat, weapons equipped by radar sights along with the optoelectronic sights.
Radar sights work in centimetric and millimetric wave bands that make it possible detecting targets and providing weapons guidance at any time, in all weather conditions as well as smokescreen and dustiness of atmosphere.
Portable Multiple Target Surveillance and Weapon Guidance Radar «Fara-1» (1L111) is used as a radar sight in the Russian Armed Forces and was adopted in 1999.
Radar Sight Fara-1 is designed for moving land objects surveillance (single person, group of people, armoured vehicles) and guidance of automatic grenade launcher AGS-17 type, single and heavy machine guns such as Pecheneg and Kord.
Weapons guidance at a moving target is fulfilled by operator at the signal maximum from the target reflection and with it the target range is determined by the radar indicator.
The radar sight manpack set is a portable device carried by one person in the folded state behind an the pack.
Radar sight works in continuous emission mode. Complex signal with double modulation is used for rain influence and flying birds avoidance in the radar near-field."
Hard to say what the point is. I can think of three possible explanations:
1. NVGs used to be utter shit, so radar.
2. Genuinely for firing through smoke and shit.
3. Eventually use it like trackerpoint or whatever it's called.
>>28022174
>>28011695
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>>28022120
That genuinely might be it.
>>28011973
Okay that was funny
Just checked a few places. Poor Russian separatists (tm) in Donetsk apparently used it while preventing Ukranian mil from stepping out of the airport. Seems like it's used as a glorified motion detection device. If it detects something, it gives you range and angle to target.
>>28022235
>>28022184
Yeah, that's it
http://warspot.ru/2155-zorkie-glaza-armii
>>28022243
What does grass do to mm wave? I am guessing it goes straight through whereas thermals do not.
So there's one use South Africa would be jelly of.
>>28022120
imager won't necessarily help you targeting through the fog, snowfall or smoke/aerosol screen
>>28022256
That's the best article out there it seems, thanks.
>>28022273
My understanding was that IR doesn't care about fog and smoke (except specific IR blocking, which seems rarely used). I don't know what snow does to IR.
>>28019707
it glorious pasta
>>28011901
Get out of here stalker
>>28022243
that thing is so god dem sexy
fuck me, heavy grenadelaunchers are one of my weakspots
>>28011901
Take the dick out of your ass before posting again.
