You lied to me /k/. You said that the F-35 had twice the range of the F-22 because it only has to feed one engine instead of two. But look, nearly identical.
Hey look, another reason the F-35 is SHIT.
>>27925756
That circle on the left clearly has about twice the area.
>>27925756
Oh, you are the moron from the China thread on /pol/.
You might want to actually visit /k/ before claiming things /k/ "told you."
>>27925756
What did you expect? never trust sperglords
>>27925756
>Because it has to feed one engine instead of two.
That has fuck-nothing to do with maximum range.
Weight, fuel efficiency of the engine itself, and aero properties of the airframe itself is what gives range.
>>27925794
This. I don't even give a shit but please lrn 2 geometry.
Those are pretty big circles without refueling.
>>27925794
Combat radius is the correct term.
For my next AR, just for the range, from 50-150 yards. I have no guns with iron sights, just optics. Time to learn how to use 'em?
>>27925858
as long as my target is easily visible to the naked eye, I prefer irons at least up to 400 or so yards vs a scope
scopes don't make me shoot any better, they just make objects more visible but hurt my shooting with the extra weight
>>27925817
This.
F-35 threads are proof that the Internet enables misinformation and misinterpretation at higher speeds than ever.
>>27925756
The F-22 is a fucking sexy machine well ahead of its time, like the SR71, and most airframes aren't meant to match the F-22 in pure dog-fighting capability or aerodynamic performance (in fact, none on Earth currently do).
The idea that every iteration of combat plane has to be superior to the previous in all regards is flawed. The F-35 is an excellent airframe but in a dog-fight with an F-22, it would lose. However, the stealth on the F-35 is debatably superior, it has better sensors, and could possibly score a win from outside the F-22's detection radius if you had to put the two against each other.
You're trying to compare the F-35 (a workhorse) to the F-22 (a racing stallion), when they are meant to fill different roles. The fact that the F-35 is multi-role and has to meet the demands of multiple situations with different combat loads by necessity limits its performance in each individual category.
The picture is also misleading in that while the combat radius is similar, the flight times are drastically different. The F-35 has a max speed of Mach 1.6 while the F-22 can pull up to Mach 2.0 (theorized up to 2.2) due to the difference in thrust output between the single-engine and double-engine designs.
For comparison, the F-35 models carry around 19,000 lbs of fuel vs. the F-22's 18,000 lbs. The F-22 is also a larger plane.
F-22 combat radius: ~750 km. F-35 combat radius ~1,100 km. This means that at max speed, the F-35 has a 33 minute flight limit vs. the F-22's 18 minute flight limit, nearly double.
Range isn't everything. Loiter time is also an important factor.
