So the .50 Beowulf mags aren't prohibited for now, but that's probably gonna change somewhere down the line during this administration. I wouldn't buy any more of them, since you wouldn't be able to use them anyways.
http://www.csaaa.org/csaaa-communique-re-beowulf-magazines/
Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Q8JvWvaG
Bought 500 22LR CCI blazers for 33 dollars plus tax (6.7 cents each). Was it a good deal?
>>27925455
That's pretty good, I think. I generally buy my winchester .22 ammo for about 5.5 cents per round, but they are of a lower quality.
>>27925417
>http://www.csaaa.org/csaaa-communique-re-beowulf-magazines/
Doesn't honestly say shit about dual purpose mags being legal only that 50. beo rifles can use 5 round mags not that.
TL:DR only real AA beomags with a specialized 50. beo follower fit the description of a non dual purpose magazine.
That being said a managers opinion doesn't mean shit but expect a RCMP special bulletin in the future.
>>27925657
I'm afraid.
>>27925455
>>27925477
Yeah not bad, last time I grabbed some Winchester .22 it was $28 for a box of 333.
>>27925455
Do you save your Canadian Tire bucks?
>>27925417
so are they going to fuck over those 10rd LAR mags while they're at it?
why not just ban magazines and make us load each round by hand into the chamber?
fucking cunts
>>27926289
Probably not.
This whole mess is the RCMP is trying to ban magazines mark 50. beowulf that are pretty obviously just standard AR-15 magazines mark and pinned to 5 rounds of 50.beo. The original AA magazines don't use 5.56 followers and have wider feed lips.
With the law as it stands .50 beowulf mags cannot be banned so long as they are purpose built for the .50 beowulf rounds.
>>27926442
>>27926442
So the PCV ones should be gtg or.....? I'm so confuzled....
>>27926460
Right now everything is good, there was a letter from the RCMP saying 50 beo mags were banned from import as they were considered over capacity 5.56 mags. These mags have always been an overlooked grayzone but it seems the RCMP will be making their move against them soon.
You can buy now if you want but if they put out a bulletin on them they will be prohib until pinned to 5 rounds of 5.56.
After which the NFA/CSSA will take them to the court.
If we win they will go back to 5 rounds of 50.
If we lose they stay prohib unless pinned and then the RCMP has president and will go after 40cal magazines that can be used in 9mm.
>>27925417
Please be true
>>27926611
Sounds about right then. I barely use my'n anyway but if the RCMP go ahead and prohibit them, then i'll be in possession of 3 prohibited devices. Dunno what i'll do about that.
>>27926611
Im googling now, but where do you buy your 40 cal magazines? I may as well stock up
>>27926442
Why does it matter what pattern the follower is when they're both designed for .50 Beowulf?
The original model had a different shape of follower - the new models do, but they're both for .50 Beowulf.
>>27926661
Where ever is cheapest with shipping usually Canada ammo, frontier firearms, or bullseye(because its close).
Make sure you read up on if the mags are compatible first. Off the top of my head i think its cz75 post B, jericho 941, norc sig clones, sig226 (although they are notorious for being picky on mags)
>>27926710
It matters for the definition of purpose built for the rifle. Since the beowulf with 556 followers are essentially AR-15 magazines with bent feed lips they in the eyes of the law are modified AR-15 magazines.
>>27926731
I understand from that perspective, but unless it alters its actual intended purpose - holding 5 rounds of .50 Beowulf, why should it be an issue?
Both new magazines and old ones were made for .50 Beowulf.
Both new magazines can hold 14-15 rounds of 5.56.
Both magazines are marked for .50 Beowulf.
It sounds like an incredibly nitpicky technicality for them to be specifically crying about the follower.
>>27926661
I should also add that E-Lander AIA mags are probably fucked too. Since they are essentially M14 mags without the hole for the spring guide.
>>27926749
Because its a technicality that the RCMP can win with. [By win i mean fuck with the law harder]
I don't like it anymore that you do and it doesn't have to make much sense but that doesn't mean that it won't happen exactly as I say I will.
>>27926757
Yeah, true that famalam.
>>27926750
>>27926731
Thanks. Im sure Mike from Canmore will be interested in these
>>27925417
>Canada
>Shits about to get b&
>Don't buy it!
I'm not trying to talk shit. I really am fascinated. In the U.S, we have literally the exact opposite mindset.
>Muerrica
>Shits about to get b&
>Muthafuggin buy that shit out!!!
Interdasting...
>>27926778
You guys have a much larger population and a 2nd amendment to fall back on. We have... Being civil as fuck and hoping we don't get bent over.
>>27926759
What every Canadian needs to realize is all our gun "privileges" rest on these small technicalities. Bullpups are an example they were meant to be banned but since the section was poorly written they are allowed.
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9
>Slide fire stocks/gatling triggers/lightning links etc
1. Any electrical or mechanical device that is designed or adapted to operate the trigger mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm for the purpose of causing the firearm to discharge cartridges in rapid succession.
>If the word stock/a stock was omitted all bullpups would have been banned
2. Any rifle, shotgun or carbine stock of the type known as the “bull-pup” design, being a stock that, when combined with a firearm, reduces the overall length of the firearm such that a substantial part of the reloading action or the magazine-well is located behind the trigger of the firearm when it is held in the normal firing position.
>>27926778
You wouldn't get 3 years mandatory fuck time in the pen for having a magazine that fits a few more cartridges.
>>27926792
Scary, being that my prize possession is a tar21
>>27926869
Yeah i've got a few on the soon to be banned list all NR all going to go in the ground should the worst happen.
If you were unaware RCMP supposedly had a meeting with the libs to ban 6 firearms based on their ability to be converted to full auto that they missed.
I don't think the list was ever published but IIRC someone leaked it
For sure was M305, Mini14, SKS
Not sure if i remember but Tavor Tar-21, and two other probably the swiss and cz858 that were made on F/A receivers.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-tests-show-some-firearms-can-be-converted-to-fully-automatic-1.3284661
>>27926910
Found the rumored list
M305
SKS
Mini-14
Mini-30
CZ858 (and by extension vz 58)
Tavor Tar-21
Spoilers the method they claim is the shoe string method as if they weren't aware before Bourque.
>>27926910
>If you were unaware RCMP supposedly had a meeting with the libs to ban 6 firearms
No, they didn't. Read what you posted.
>RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson wrote to Steven Blaney last December, detailing test results on six types of semi-automatics and recommending the government consider laws or regulations to ensure the improvisation technique is prohibited.
>In a response six months later, however, Blaney said changes are not needed.
They wrote to the Cons last year, and the Cons told them to fuck off.
>>27926954
I'm aware the cons told them to fuck of, which is why I said supposedly as in they brought it up again now that the libs are in power.
>>27926910
>>27926954
also,
>recommending the government consider laws or regulations to ensure the improvisation technique is prohibited
They only ever recommended that the technique is prohibited, not the firearms themselves.
>>27926963
Any source on that?
>>27926977
SUPPOSEDLY so no, no credible source. I heard it from a guy I know that works in the firearms lab.
I can make an automatic sub machine gun in my garage.
Ban all the legal firearms you want. If I want something automatic, I'll just make it.
Come at me
>>27927011
Thats the spirit, now where do you live?
>>27926954
Converting a gun into an automatic is already illegal lmao
>>27927043
You miss the part in the law that says any firearm that is easily made to fire multiple bullets with a single trigger pull is prohibited.
>easily made into F/A
>string
>easy
>F/A
What is reclassification for 200 Alex
The only thing stopping them currently is bill C-42 which prevents them from reclassifying firearms after they have been classified for 1 year.
A bill that the liberals said they would re-write to remove "certain aspects"
>>27927108
Sweet. Fuck them though. CDH etc.
>>27927016
Canmore. Next door to Mike.
>>27926778
Well if you are gonna break the law, we have regular 30 rounders pinned to 5 anyways. The penalty for having a weird and expensive mag will be the same as an unpinned 30 rounder, so there's no point in buying them for those of us looking to comply with the law.
Well currently nothing is prohibited anyway; they blocked one shipment from one dealer for reasons.
>>27928294
>>27926778
Especially because we won't be able to use them if the ban them anyways.
>>27926869
Ugh, I was gonna save up for an elcan for my MK18, now I might use that money for a vz or a tar instead.
>>27928321
Well we have enough space in this country you'd think you could get away with almost anything. Not that we would do that.
>tfw too retarded to find key recruitment timelines on the CF website
I'm trying to figure out:
>online application deadline
>boot start
>approximate time-frame between application and boot
>whether recruitment waves are annual or biannual
Friendly reminder to flood every politician with pro gun letters and to join the CSSA because the habbening is soon.
>>27929287
Canadian Forces recruitment for reserve or reg force? Because in the resrve, they 'll take you at any time, and you'll train at the unit until a basic comes around.
>>27929336
Reg.
I want to jump right in, but if the application deadline is in Feb, I still need a few more months to complete my fitness regime.
>>27929287
Last BMQ of the year started on Monday, so they're probably not going to start calling people until January
was going to post this in the gwg thread but i feel it belongs here among its people
>>27929497
That's what I'm hoping for.
I'm just wondering what the timeframe would be between registration, call, testing and boot. And how many BMQ cycles there are yearly.
>>27929287
There is no set time. Depends on how many spots they need to fill. They may all be full, and one person drops out, then they call the next person down the list. What trade?
>>27929556
Not sure yet.
Also considering officer school to put my shit undergrad to use.
>>27929397
You literally need to be able to do one pushup for the med/phys. As long as you're not 300lbs, you'll be fine.
Source: I'm in the process of joining, but paperwork is gay
>>27926935
>List literally includes all of the guns I was considering for purchase
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
>>27929550
Here's where I got my information
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/training-establishments/recruit-school.page
Click the drop-down arrow for Graduation Ceremonies
>>27929619
BUY THEM ANYWAY more to confiscate means harder for them to do it. IMO they will never be able to confiscate sks's there are way way to many of them in private hands even after the LGR died.
>>27929514
Is that an AR or a Galil ACE? fugg I want a Galil so bad
>Prohib
Just kill me and dump cold coffee on my fetid carcass
>>27929741
Gilboa says right on the side of the rifle.
Its the m43 to be exact. Dunno if zahal tried to bring these in ill see if I can find some info. They may be focusing on tavor sales right now as a test run.
>>27929761
Oh fuck it says that? Jesus christ my vision is dogshit...
a-are you sure the photo isn't blurry anon
>>27926991
You mean the four person staffed office?
>>27929761
Zahal sells tavors? Whaaaaaa
>>27929785
>The juden shop of hebrew trinkets and kosher gun parts is now selling Tavors
Colour me blue and white and slap me with matzos
>>27929793
Well because I'd legitimately buy one if they have good prices.
>>27929761
Zahal stated they recieved the rifles at their office in Israel on 10-16-2013 and said
"Dare to dream! We'd love to see them here and available to civilians. Because: why not?" on 01-26-2014
By either time if these have been submitted for testing they still have at least a year before their turn for classification.
There is no solid statement I was even submitted tho
>>27929785
Zahal is an Israeli company that deals parts and does international sales but Its North Sylvia Co. that does the actual importation of the rifles.
As a .50 Beowulf owner buying beowulf mags is as bad as buying ammo. Stop this obscene loophole so I don't have to wait 3 months anymore and yes it does matter because the feed lips are slightly different enough to cause jams if you use regular 5.56mm mags.
Is it weird that I used to really hate the Tavor but now that they are threatening to ban it, it's starting to grow on me?
>>27929822
Quit bitching, the influx of .50 beowulf mags helps everyone.
>>27929822
Curious did you buy your upper in Canada or have it imported?
If imported was there any issues with the importation?
Do you know if the .50 upper has an FRT or is it just a part?
I'm asking because I want to get a AR57 upper at some point but I don't think any have been brought in yet.
>>27929885
Not really, makes sense. You want what you can't have (or might not be able to soon). Ever shot one?
>>27929897
That's the thing, I had the opportunity but scoffed at it and went for the AR route instead. I just kinda like the look of the Tavor now, might buy one soon.
Are you an owner? Is the trigger actually as bad as they say?
>>27929892
Not a Canadian owner , just had to wait 4 months after ordering mags and I suspect the beowulf loophole is why they are always sold out. It's a loophole in California too so it's not directed at all Canadians.
>>27929920
Well shit, AFAIK not many Canadians order the AA mags because after import they are like 90-100 each.
>>27929918
If you're used to an AR trigger you will probably hate the Tavor trigger.
I don't consider it to be that shitty, because I basically learned to shoot on it. And the more you shoot it, the trigger lightens up. I think mine is at like 6 or 7 pounds as opposed to 14 (which is what some people claimed it was).
There's little tricks you can do like removing a certain spring (This will void your warranty, though) or you can pony up and by a Geissele or Timney. I'm alright with the trigger as is, though. I'm not some kind of hardcore precision shooting guy, so it matters very little to me.
>>27929950
Hmm, I didn't know Geissele and Timney made triggers for it, I'll probably buy one when I get the rifle then. I am pretty used to AR triggers so it probably will take some getting used to.
>>27929968
They're pricey, just FYI. like, $400 or more IIRC. Should look up the DYI trigger job as well, though like I said it might not be worth voiding warranty to you.
>>27929619
This
>>27929706
the more the better.
>>27929924
I always bought polymer mags from press check ventures. Always had em in stock for $40 each
>>27930097
Had some of the press check they were ok never fucking fit well in my Type 97 so I sold them.
>>27930119
That's a problem with the Type 97 not the mags.
Type 97 Magwell is notoriously tight.
>>27926652
wouldn't it be a shame if you accidentally left them in your range bag you took out on that hunting and boating trip you're planning and they fell out into the lake?
>>27930177
>Chinese
>Too tight
That has been my general experience as well.
Oh wait, we're talking about magwells?
>>27930119
Oh I know don't have an AR right now so sold to fund other shit.
>>27930304
Mislinked>>27930276
>>27930304
I was making a joke about Chinese vaginas being too small.
>>27930336
Fuck i should just go do some cocaine, switching off the overnight to dayshift ignore me.
>>27930304
Was ment for >>27930177
>>27930276
You have to loosen them up a bit if you're using thicker magazines. Lots of guys take a file and remove some of that excess polymer.
:^)
>>27930366
Buddy of mine, his brother is now basically braindead because some fuck cut his coke with fentanyl. Wouldn't recommend it. Greasy fucking dealers.
>>27930409
>Rifles always say "Oh, I wish my operator had a beowulf mag", but then as soon as the beowulf mag is in front of them, suddenly it might just be a bit too big...
>>27930409
Nah mine magwell was bad to the extreme basically only usgi mags worked well, non dropped free opted to file down the mag well. Poly mags still suck but aluminium work great now. Thats norinco QC for you.
>>27930467
>>27927043
>inb4 a shoelace and rubber band ban
>>27930528
I'm fine with this bring on adult sized velcro nikes
>>27930551
This. Velcro is GOAT.
>but Anon you're a GROWN MAN, TIE YOUR SHOES!
Fuck you, Einstein couldn't tie his shoes either.
>>27925417
"Since I wouldn't be able to use them."
Says who?
Anyone know what the legality of an 80% AR lower is in Canada?
(assuming it stays being an 80% lower until such a time as I mill it out and register it?)
Yes I have R and NR PAL
>>27930499
Dude, you have no idea.
I've done work with China before. It was fucking awful.
We're working for an American company and they want everything to be done in imperial. Because of this, we give China a larger budget and an extra 3 month lead time so that they can acquire the imperial sized steel rods they'll need to manufacture the components to the specifications we send them. Seems reasonable enough, right?
Well, apparently not, because they just purchased the next metric size UP and then their powder coating was something ridiculous like 12 thou thick, meaning that there was no fucking way that the rods would ever fucking fit into the holes they were designed for.
Or another time where they decided to weld brackets on an extra 3 inches back than specified, preventing the part from being installed at all.
What's the fucking point of making detailed engineering drawings if they don't follow them?
>>27930565
Dlask sells some. If the firearm you make from the 80% is restricted, contact the RCMP before you start cutting.
>>27930555
>Fuck you, Einstein couldn't tie his shoes either.
Myth try to find a picture of him with his shoes untied.
>>27930565
Difficult to say, there is no legislation on it, and I haven't heard of any court rulings on it. Even the RCMP aren't 100% sure on what to do. Best idea would be to register it before you start to work on it, but that until you actually intend to work on it, it should be fine.
>>27930565
Not a firearm until you start work on it.
>>27930589
His wife actually had to do a lot of basic shit for him. It was part of their prenup. He was pretty far from neurotypical.
>>27930528
Paulson will keep us safe :^)
>>27930589
Oh, well, fuck. whatever, don't let the plebs know, we need an excuse to make velcro cool again.
>>27930719
Or at least until those self tieing Nikes and Mattel hoverboards come out right guys?
Any Artillery Reserve guys here? kinda thinking about signing up
>>27926750
>>27926749
this is where the feds magic "dual purpose magazine" clause comes into play.
that why they won't issue an FRT for a .50 beo pistol, thats why nobody could import 20 round AIA enfield mags, etc.
they know the game too, they are just able to rewrite the rules as they please.
>>27930560
Fuddy McRangeNazi who sees you shooting too many rounds without reloading and calls the fun police.
>>27930736
That is already a thing just not in quantity.
Talking about the shoes btw.
>>27930765
The beo pistol mags are currently not allowed because no manufacturer makes a beowulf pistol(custom jobs do not count)
LAR magazines are allowed because LAR and Olympic arms AR-15 pistols exist.
AA has stated before they have no intent to make a beowulf pistol.
>>27930765
As for the AIA 20 rounders thats fuckery on their part 100%
Someone got a link to buy those beowulf mags online? Ontario here.
>>27930901
theyre sold out everywhere
>>27930916
fuark.
>>27930765
fucking fun nazis
>>27930901
PCV delisted theirs awaiting confirmation from the RCMP to say they're legal.
On the other hand give me $500 and I'll mail you one of mine :^)
>>27931005
What clucks. They've been selling them legally for years.
>>27931030
>What clucks.
not really. just looking out for themselves as a business.
>This directly contradicts the Canadian Firearms Act as well as previous responses from the RCMP including Bulletin 72.
>Despite this contradiction, until this matter is officially resolved, as of November 17, 2015, we are suspending sales of the PCV-50.
>>27931066
Yeah, you're right. I know, they gotta watch their ass.
It's just frustrating watching how we as a community have to constantly be tip-toeing around, asking permission, being very, VERY careful of playing inside the shitty fence the government made for us while they are circling like hungry wolves, watching for a toe to stray out of bounds.
At what point are people and businesses going to start saying enough is enough? Probably never, I guess? I know that's really "keyboard commando" of me to say, everyone is a rebel on the internet..
>>27929328
desu senpai when the USA happening happens, because it's going to happen within next year(our economy is already ruined, might as well ruin those who ruined us), people are already preparing. The "mass hysteria" gun grab isn't hysterical at all, it's supply and demand. Guns and ammo went up because the freedom market is larger than ever, especially in places where Mexicans vote.
for instance, i'm in California, and have never met a single non libertarian white within this state, not including women, because everyone knows how bad at decision making they are.
>>27926799
Nigga we have the weakest legal system in the world, you'll be out in no time
Shit, you can kill a police officer and not even serve jail time in this country, we are so weak on punishment of crime it is insane
>"The teenager convicted of killing Const. Garrett Styles was sentenced to no jail time, but was given nine years of "conditional supervision," in a ruling handed down at a Toronto-area courthouse today.
The 19-year-old, who was only 15 and considered a young offender at the time of the incident, was found guilty of first-degree murder in June. He has been referred to as S.K. throughout the proceedings.
Styles, who worked for the York Regional Police force, died in the early morning hours of June 28, 2011, after pulling over a minivan full of teenagers that S.K. was driving. Styles was then dragged and crushed when S.K. fled the roadside stop and the van rolled over."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/garrett-styles-sentencing-1.3320370
>>27931280
Of course no one would do hard jail time, but there are legal costs most people in this situation take a plea and loose their whats left of their collection and usually have a 10 year weapons ban and or huge debt.
If belt's have no ammunition limits, why don't more Canadian companies make semi-automatic belt fed rifles?
>>27931462
probably not enough interest in a semi auto FN MAG for $6000+
>>27931462
>>27931476
Theres limits on belts designed after (and made?) after a certain date. This includes all disintegrating belts.
>>27931481
Well shit, I thought they were a complete loophole.
>>27931481
Ok just designed
Any belt/link designed for belt fed machine guns — designed before 1945 — is exempted from the 5-round rule. (Before you get too excited: a .223 belt would NOT be exempt; the .223 wasn’t designed until the ’60s…)
So unless you find a way for your mini to take vickers cloth belts you're sol >>27931476
>VZ-58 is one of the most popular detachable magazine semi-automatic rifle in Canada
>No Canadian companies make cheap plastic mags for it
No, I don't want to spend the same for a standard magazine that American's pay for a fucking Bakelite AK magazine.
>>27931510
I think no one bothers because surplus mags are plentiful and sell for like $20
>>27931510
>>27931714
I'd love some vz58 pmags t-b-h f@m
>>27931510
>>27931714
>>27931802
I have like 10 vz58 mags, i think I'm set for a while
>>27931831
yeah I have like 16, one of them is dogshit and won't feed properly
>>27931831
>tfw I only have 2 and only 3 stripper clips
I really need to buy some more shit.
>>27931877
I also have like 100 stripper clips, bought a crate of czech ammo
>>27931882
Oh siiick I need to find one of those. NCstar clips are dogshit, but they're acceptable...
>>27931896
Leverarms is selling some surplus clips right now, about $1.50 a clip
>>27931917
>Buying from Lever Arms
It's 2015
>>27931896
the canadian tire in a town about an hour drive away has the czech stuff
Anyone know where I can find some cheap IWI Jericho 941s? In steel of course and preferably without the picatinny rail underneath
>>27931927
lever arms is fine
>>27931939
>35$ shipping for guns
Nah I'll pass
>>27931510
I think wolverine supplies used to sell some gray dogshit plastic ones. They were pretty crap though. Corwin arms has great surplus ones that look brand new. Dlask. You can get 4 of them for 100 shipped
>>27931931
>the canadian tire
My Canadian tire actually has ammunition in it.
Richmond Hill, ON
>>27931993
im not sure what this post is supposed to be saying
>>27932033
For us in the GTA and possible other cities in Canada, CT does not sell ammo or guns. I got real jealous seeing Albertans showing their crappy tires with pallets of surplus 5.56 and Tavors
>>27932052
>surplus 5.56
this exists here?
CT here (metro vancouver) typically sells ammo but not guns, the one near my place recently started carrying pistol ammo though
>>27932033
Oh, I was implying that even Canadian Tires close to urban centers carry firearms and ammunition.
i.e. Canadian tires in the GTA GVA etc
>mfw completed non restricted and restricted courses this past weekend but parents don't want guns in the house
Priority zero: moving out.
>>27932064
The Norinco 5.56 in spam tins
>>27931280
Well he is quadriplegic now. He would have been the prison sex doll if they had sent him there.
>>27932069
then what's this guy >>27932052 saying?
>>27932102
that's not surplus, that's just ammo produced for sale
>>27932176
It's also never coming back to Canada because the US is kucking us through shipping traffic
speaking of magazines, how are consumer 3d printers progressing?
>>27932760
what would be the point? if you're going to break the law anyways then spend 2 seconds unpinning your mag
>>27932784
Would 3D printing a 5-round .50Beo mag be legal?
>>27932784
You don't understand, there's a law in place saying we're not allowed to unpin mags.
It can't be done.
>>27932854
not without proper licensing
>>27932854
nah youd get raped for that if they found out
>>27932052
lived in brampton for a spell and they sold ammo, ive never seen a canadian tire not sell ammo.
>>27932872
power drills say otherwise
>>27933116
you could probably do it with a rock
>>27933135
Pliers even senpai
>>27933147
pliers are way higher tech than a rock
did you guys notice your national fire arms journals showing up in opaque plastic wrap now?
>>27932784
I may be retarded but I was looking at the steel mags that came with my Norinco AR, just out of curiosity of course, trying to find the pin. I couldn't see it from the outside, mine must be a plug or just is glued in or some shit. Again, just curious. Its not like I would ever break the law and remove the pin or anything.
>>27933317
sometimes they stamp a bump into the magazine
those ones you'd have to cut out the bump with a saw or file or something
>>27926778
Well the difference is that confiscation usually isn't on the table when it comes to proposed bans of sale in 'Merica. If you have "preban" of greentip, or an ar15 with bayo lug etc, you'll be fine.
These mags would be rendered unusable, and all you could do with them is hand them over for destruction, re-pin them or lose them in a tragic canoe fire while hunting with Mike. There's no point in getting in before the ban.
>>27933341
is shit in the US grandfathered typically? aren't they in the same boat when they face bans?
>>27933355
The American Federal Government cannot into ex post facto. The Canadian Feds can. That and no property rights.
The 12.x OIC were just them being "nice" and getting the Fudds to say "see its not that bad".
>>27933394
Worst part about the 12.x shit is that the only thing that's actually encoded in the law as prohibited is full auto and converted full auto, everything else is from OICs.
>>27933333
checked. Also never heard of them doing that before.
>>27933317
have you tried taking the magazine apart and just looking through it to see what's going on in there?
>>27933538
>>27933317
this is what i'm talking about lads
i don't even own an ar either
>>27933557
That's for the mag catch. It's present on every single AR mag.
The Norinco mags have a tab inside along the spine.
>>27933649
oh ok
where do they typically pin ar mags?
only handled an AR once
>>27933671
Pop rivet on the spine or side.
Some have a tab pressed in on the spine.
>>27927011
Requesting download link
>>27929514
Is that the former IDF instructor that you pay $250 to teach you about the tavor?
>>27929892
Phoenix gun range in edmonton had them last time I was there. I still fucking hate that place.
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>>27934104
Never been there. What happened to make you hate it?
>>27934346
Ignorant fools who work there. Ignorant with a bad attitude.
They sperged out when my buddy used figure 11s as targets. Cant shoot at human target that have facial features in canada eh? But the thing is he was sticking patches on the blank backside then shooting at that. Now I don't care if you just don't want those targets on your range, that's fine, but they way he went about telling him was all wrong. The staff went up to the bullet proof glass and just pointed at the targets then made an angry face and shook his head no. My buddy didn't know what he wanted so eventually he came into the range and started yelling at him saying "you can't use those here!" My buddy asked why, he responded "Because I said so!" we both went home and found that the guy had proceeded to bad mouth my buddy on their facebook group.
When I was there with someone else we brought paper plates to use as targets because it's cheaper than the $1-$5 targets they sell at the front. Dude at the cashier station at the top of the stairs was cool with that, so we go into the range not half an hour in some other staff jackass came storming in and told us we cant shoot those here, we asked why and that the other guy was cool with it, he just said "IT'S THE RULES".
I bought a pistol shortly after I had become a member and reminded him about the special member pricing on the guns, he thanked me for reminding him then proceed to process it without the discount. I didn't notice until I got home.
I'm constantly being talked down to by the staff every time I'm there. I know I'm young but come on guys. I'm an international competition shooter.
And many other things. It's not like one one big thing happened that made me think "I'm never going back there" Just a lot of little things all building together.
In closing I'd just say they aren't a good enough store to be acting like such pricks.
>>27933317
This is why magpul mags are nice. The gigantic bolt is right there.
>>27929514
Hnnnng
>>27934104
Thanks ill try giving them a call when I have some extra cash, good to know they're in the country so I can just import them and not have to worry about sending it off for inspection.
Anyone have experience with the perroz designs plate carrier?
>>27929336
>you'll train at the unit until a basic comes around.
What do you do at the unit until then? Just sit and watch?
>>27937170
Reservre training is surprisingly like high school with theory or practical classes.
>New recruit at a reserve unit schedule
>Day 1: show up with all your kit. You'll label it, we'll explain what it is, when it used, how to wear it
>Day 2: you show up in uniform and we correct you as necessary
>Every other day: Attempt classes and hover around watching people do their job absorbing all you can while trying not to be too retarded by default
>Every other day if there is time or several recruits: basic training prep like basic drill and command structure. All the while they'll tell you to learn it but don't say you did because you're not supposed to until basic and if you say that you learned it on the unit on basic you'll get chewed out for being a know it all doing it wrong because you will do it wrong anyways.
>>27929918
I hear they designed the outside first for the TAR-21. I would normally scoff at bottom-up engineering, but it certainly hit all the right notes for instant popularity. I wonder how much it cost them for the "future weapons" publicity...
>>27937400
Ah ok, hows the social dynamic there? I assume theres gonna be some slackers who don't parade every week, leading to a "core" group of people?
There's some super motivated kids at my uni that wear their unit patches either on their bag or on their hsld jacket.
>>27934603
Wow. That's pretty shitty of them.
Gun owners often have too short a memory to realise they were your age once, too.
It's not like our generation has too much to thank theirs for, eh?
>>27937603
It's definitely got a "futuristic" aesthetic to it. Had a couple nogunz friends comment that it looked like something they would expect out of a game of Halo for example.
>>27937695
Depending on the unit, you'll meet all sorts.
A reserce unit has a some key reg force personnel to fill key roles. Otherwise, it depends on your chain of command.
Good, dedicated leaders who have time to give their all = great unit
Half assers = bad unit
Since it is all volunteer work, the social scene is pretty important and has a weird relationship with the whole "duty" thing.
You'll haveclass A heroes that show up all the time and want to do everything from advance party to every course possible.
And you'll have lifetime corporals who have done everything and anything except assume an official leadership role.
Honestly, at the end of the day, you get whatever you put into it out of it.
If you show up wanting to learn and wanting to contribute, usually the chain of command will accomodate that.
Iff you are there for no reason, you'll being doing shit for no reason.
Honestly, those supermotivated guys, so longa s they aren't posers, make reserve work really fun, even if it looks a little gay sometimes. Because no other job has been "no homo" than my time with the miltary.
>>27937737
I mean, when it's winter warfare in -20celcius, and it is "Walk 5k in shitty snowshoes and then set up a tent and take turns sleeping," it can easily suck hard, even if one guy is gung-ho.
But when 2 guys are gung-ho? That shit get infectious and suddenly after building snow fortifications everyone is building sentry snowmen for shits and giggles.
Unfortunately, the inverse is true with debbie downers.
>>27937737
>Since it is all volunteer work, the social scene is pretty important and has a weird relationship with the whole "duty" thing.
So does military protocol still apply away from work? Appreciate these answers, I'm just on my medical right now.
>inb4 bump into officers at school or at work lol
>>27937737
>And you'll have lifetime corporals who have done everything and anything except assume an official leadership role.
Man this would probably be me if I ever joined the army.
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>>27937780
It sounds like camping, really. What are the medical requirements for the reserves?
The Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights is looking for organized shills, speaking volunteers, actors and multi-media experts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPjhcu5ietY
Please give them your time and shekels so freedom-lovers like us can have an organized lobbying force in Ottawa.
>>27938127
You mean what we already have in the CSSA?
>Rod Giltaca
Breddy good. This guy is probably one of the best possible figureheads for Canadian gun owners. He's civil, soft spoken and best of all, he isn't aggressive or scary.
>>27938249
The CSSA isn't in a start-up volunteer spree so....
CSSA/CCFR merger eventually.
>>27938259
Breddy good, this would be good. As long as the CCFR can maintain discipline over their group, and devolve into an inbred anarchist fuckfest like the screaming children with the NFA we will be in business.
>>27938127
>>27938249
>>27938259
What are your thoughts on RifleChair?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlgnyCf9iTQ
>>27938284
>and -NOT- devolve
woops, typo'd 2bh famalamadingdong
I WANT AN AR SO BADLY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>27938285
Soft spoken doesn't get you very far on Youtube.
>quiet dude
>no BS just guns
>tranquil music
Not my thing, but I can dig it.
>>27939090
Just fucking buy one.
Here's something you guys can all do to help gun owners in Canada.
Next time you're getting ready to make a gun-related purchase, ask yourself if it's worth buying said item if you won't be able to use it soon anyway. Then take that money and donate it to CSSA, CCFR and the NFA. If we all do this, it will help immensely. I was recently saving up for a new shotgun but I've since changed my mind, now when I have the $400 to spend I'm going to donate it all to lobbying powers. $200 to CCFR and $100 to CSSA and NFA. Our best bet at keeping our rights at this point is to donate to these groups guys, and we all need to do it.
>>27939186
>Just fucking buy one.
>firing ranges
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>>27939202
I am a card carrying NFA member Tbh
Also I don't think more money will necessarily help them, Canada is so corrupt and our legal system is such shit for challenging the government, I don't think extra money will help them any
>>27939236
Same, I just throw some money to show my support and just consider it a magazine subscription.
>>27939236
You should be a member of all three. I shouldn't really talk about giving them money since they sponsor me and, even though I donate, I take more than I give. The reality is, even if money won't help as much as it could, it does help, especially with groups like CCFR that are just starting up and look so promising. Also everyone should take their noguns friends shooting, help them understand the issue a little bit.
>>27939258
I personally think the CSSA is too wussy to make any change
>>27939325
The main problem I have with them is that they aren't really open to working with parties other than the conservatives, but things are looking grim and we need all the help we can get for the moment.
>>27939345
working with the other parties is entirely futile, they are staunchly anti gun
>>27939476
Not really. Think about it. Gun control isn't really a hot issue right now that Justin is going to be pushing for, it might be a year or so before he even begins working on it. If anything he does is viciously opposed by a strong lobbying force, he'll at least be more likely to just half-ass it and not do anything too terrible.
>>27939583
it doesnt matter if it's a hot issue or not, the ndp and liberals will NEVER EVER loosen gun laws
>>27939635
I agree, but they won't make them worse if our lobbying power is strong enough. That's the main goal at this point.
>>27939476
Greens actually had a pretty moderate stance in this election.
>>27939697
Wasn't there a decently large petition[spoiler]as if anyone will read it[/spoiler] going asking weedlord not to change our gun laws?
>>27939802
the green party is entirely irrelevant why would you even mention their existence
>>27937883
Fitness test for the reserves:
http://www.cg.cfpsa.ca/cg-pc/Ottawa/EN/FitnessandSports/MilitaryFitness/CFexprestesting/Pages/NewCanadianArmedForcesminimumphysicalfitnessstandard.aspx
The only other medical concerns I can think of is that your eyesight might bar you from certain trades. But I'm not too up to snuff in the more complicated medical mumbo jumbo
>>27937799
The social dynamic, like I said, can be weird. In uniform, respect the rank. Outside of uniform, be bros, but make sure to keep the two separate.
If I have to fucking rip a strip out of you in uniform because you are a tard, I will, and if we're both professionals, you'll realize it has nothing to do with whatever civilian relationship develops.
Being at the unit is reasonably different from being on courses like Basic and DP1 though, just remember that. I'd go into more detail, but you'll find out and whatever I tell you won't really make perfect sense until you experience it.
And reference the camping comment, it really depends if you're on a bag drive or not. Some exercices are enjoably hard, other ones are shitshows of suffering. Depends who is in command.
But even if it is a shitshow, at least you'll have funny stories about how much you suffered.
>>27940056
Yeah, that makes it sound even more like camping
> all these people saying that we shouldn't talk to the anti gun parties
If we can at least convince them to not be anti gun it'll be a victory
>>27941481
The problem is that there are a handful of really nasty antigunners at the tops of the Liberal and NDP parties. It's not enough to convince the regular members- you have to figure out a way to marginalize those top people. Unfortunately it's not just figureheads like Cukier, there are some men with lots of money and stature who are in the way, too.
So I'm in the market for a cheap-ish 'tactical' shotgun, and narrowed my choices down to a Mossberg 500 or Winchester SXP Extreme Defender. Opinions?
>>27942668
have you looked at the SAP 6? I'm not a shot gun aficionado by any means but I'm looking at that one myself.
>>27942723
I've definitely looked at it, along with all of the neat-looking Turkish shotguns. Problem is that I consider changeable barrels and chokes a must, and a lot of these guns seem to lack one or the other.
>>27938127
just donated! i feel these guys might be a fresh start for us to get back on track.
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>>27942763
What's cheapish for you? Because the Benelli nova tactical is top notch and under a grand.
Otherwise go for cheap, get a Norinco 870 shorty clone with ghost rings, they are generally 300-350.
>>27943017
Preferably $500 or under is my limit, I know I'm cheaping out but as a broke ass college student most of my money is going to other things at the moment.
As for the Grizzlies, they're $380 on CanAmmo nowadays. A little too pricey for a Chinese knockoff IMO.
>>27943109
Ah, I got mine for 300 bucks which I think was a good deal, they are worth the money imo, the quality is pretty good, rough but the materials are pretty solid, and you can abuse the hell out of it and not feel bad.
Anyways, sounds like the Mossberg is your best bet, the price point is really good.
Also, if you ever get the chance, buy a Benelli m4. I'm saving my shekels for one right now, they are so sweet.
>>27930565
similar to this: Machinist in training interested in making repro firearms for personal use only (not selling or anything) of unicorn guns that fall under non-restricted. Mostly I want to make a Burgess folding shotgun, and a cock on close mauser (think swede mauser or arisaka) in .308 with a trenchmag. What do? Is this shit legal? What paperwork other than PAL would I need?
>>27943171
Your receiver will have to be serialized in some manner or another so keep that in mind. I don't know all the technicalities but I do know you'll have to do more than just get a PAL. /k/ really isn't the place to ask though, I'd do this very carefully to make sure you aren't about to get your ass pounded by the RCMP if you fuck up and break the law by accident. If you end up going through all the legal work and actually make some guns, please post pics here eventually. We would all want to see them
>>27926935
I have the following
Mini-14
Mini-30
M305
4 X SKS
11 restricted Firearms.
And was considering buying the Tavor and Kriss Vector, The guy at the LGS actually talked me out of buying the Kriss as he said it will prob be prohibit next year, then he mentioned the Tavor, LOL I was like thanks buddy Thinking I have too much invested in Guns that Could be banned. Fucken Libs. Can we prohib Whiny bitches? there should be a law.
>>27943279
NO. You don't own any of those guns you mentioned. You sold them all to Mike. None of us own NR guns anymore. And those of us with restricted guns sold all the non-serialized parts to Mike.
>>27943320
Mike has been getting some wonderful new toys recently.
>>27943279
Fuck man, sorry you lost them on that boating trip the other week.
>>27931236
>have never met a single non libertarian white within this state
You should try venturing out of the basement. If you think freedom is the concern these days, you only need look at the issues the Republicans and Democrats are pushing. No freedom to be found there, pal.
The libertarian party is going to get its usual 1% of the vote, and nothing will change until the inevitable economic collapse (of which there is no imminent indication).
>>27933266
Fucking this, what's up with this? Are they not allowed to be shown anymore, are pictures of guns too damaging for the frail minds of the younger generation? Fuck this country.
>>27943279
Woodstock Show coming up in Dec
I will prob unload them there.
This is Bullshit tho, at some point we are going to have to stand up, not sure if you guys heard that the EU tried to implement a Gun Ban today to prevent attacks like Paris. Like any kind of law would have prevented any of the terrorist attacks.
>>27943482
>at some point we are going to have to stand up
No, anon. At some point we are going to have to get down, and take aim. There is no reasoning with thieves.
>>27943469
its because members complained, I'm dead fucking serious guys were crying "the post man knows I have guns now, hes gonna add my name to the RCMP database :("
>>27943618
My UN Universal human right to Article 27 Right to Participate in the Cultural Life of Community
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
How well suited is the C7 to lefties? I can never seem to line up the sights with my right eye no matter what I try, and it feels wrong using my right hand
>>27943889
They're ambi, so you'll be fine.
>>27943952
Thanks, that's what I figured, I just couldn't find it in writing.
>>27943889
I have the same problem. My right eye is slightly blurrier than my left eye, but I'm typically right handed.
I'm trying to learn to shoot rifles left handed. It's not *too* bad, but it'll take some getting used to.
>>27943981
I'm right handed in everything but shooting and writing. Problem is my left eye is slightly nearsighted. I'm trying to decide on taking my glasses with me, getting LASIK before, or seeing if I can get LASIK in the Forces on a plan
>>27944017
You'll want PRK, not LASIK. No risk of corneal flaps detaching due to head trauma.
And I might be wrong, but I was under the impression that the CF didn't cover laser eye surgery under their health plan.
>>27943618
Probably the same faggots who post MOLDY LABIA :DDDDDD and FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS all over the group Facebook pages
>>27943651
But us as gun owners don't have the full rights of a regular citizen.
>>27946450
Fuck THE UN disband it entirely.
>>27946650
But Anon, without the UN, all those tinpot dictators won't have a convenient soapbox from which to scold us on our inhumane ways.
>>27925455
Can confirm. I bought a box of the federal 525 shit for $28
Who here /SKS/ master race?
>>27949859
Everyone requirement as Canadian to own at least 2 russian sks per family in case of war with polar bear.
>>27949859
what the fuck is that? Looks sexy af
>>27949926
it's your first love senpai
>>27949926
It's 3 years minimum sentence to own or manufacture.
