https://www.rt.com/news/322646-china-vows-justice-isis-hostage/
>The Chinese Foreign Ministry has confirmed that Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) has executed a Chinese national in the Middle East. The ministry has vowed to bring the perpetrators “to justice.” China has confirmed the identity of the victim as Fan Jinghui. He had been previously identified by the terrorists as a 50-year-old freelance consultant from Beijing.
>The man was apparently featured in the terrorist group’s magazine back in September, where he was mockingly put up for “sale” along with a Norwegian hostage. Both China and Norway refused to pay the ransom that the terrorists had demanded. Beijing is now saying that it had attempted to rescue the “cruelly murdered” Chinese national.
>“The Chinese government strongly condemns this savage act devoid of humanity and will certainly bring the criminals to justice,” the ministry said in a statement quoted by Reuters. “The Chinese government will resolutely oppose all forms of terrorism, and resolutely strike at any violent terrorist criminal activities that defy the bottom lines of human culture,” it added.
>kills 500 urgyurs instead
China should send their ground forces and cleanse Syria and occupy it till Assad can hold it again.
They need to be blooded if they ever actually want to fight another nation like Taiwan, Worst Korea, Japan, Russia, or the United States.
Impressive
Truly ISIS shudders when they think of Chinese superior tactics and intellect.
>>27925943
China, with support from Russia, could deploy millions of ground troops with modern equipment. All lead by a nation that doesn't give no fucks about collateral damage, brutality, or their own casualty numbers.
>>27925793
didnt vietnam kick the shit out of them
>>27925975
>didnt vietnam kick the shit out of them
Gee, that's certainly never happened to any other nation in the world...
>>27925975
Yeah, it was pretty humiliating too. Vietnam just got done getting torn up by the US and China thought it would be an easy victory. Keep in mind that they absolutely blew out the Chinese while invading Cambodia at the same time too
>>27925990
This wasn't like the US loss where we just withdrew after mauling the Vietnamese, this was a classic ass kicking and the Chinks got bested in conventional warfare
>>27925992
Pol Pot was in Cambodia and dicking with Vietnam. Vietnam invades Cambodia and removes Pot Pot and sets up a new government. China gets ass pained and attacks Vietnam. Vietnam repels China. This was in 1979.
>>27925943
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3tyITrba7NE
>>27925990
>Gee, that's certainly never happened to any other nation in the world...
France?
>>27926006
?
The US spent a decade there and accomplished nothing
Then the whole area went communist
Pretending vietnam wasn't a loss for the US just because they killed a lot of people is absolutely delusional.
War is about accomplishing goals.
>>27926006
This. They went head to head and were by no means reduced to guerrilla warfare against the chinks.
>>27926030
Democrats won the mid term because of Watergate. Then just to dick around with Nixon and Ford. The Democrat Congress pulls all the support to South Vietnam. Then two years after the Paris Peace Treaty, the North invades. The South had no material support, no US military to come and bail them out, and leadership too incompetent to have built up native fighting strength and logistics.
>>27926030
You fail to see what he meant by that.
The US succeeded tactically, still. Yet not strategically. China lost both. AND IN CONVENTIONAL WARFARE, which implies the main fighting force was not subdued to guerrilla tactics, the Chinese lost. Yes, the US lost, but there is a massive difference between both instances. Git rekt.
>>27926030
>War is about accomplishing goals.
did communism spread and take hold?
>>27926015
What game is that?
>>27926056
>leadership too incompetent
You know when you ally with some people, then force all sorts of bad decisions on them, while mass murdering civilians, you can't blame them for "incompetence" when they are ousted after the US leaves.
You can't dick around in vietnam for TEN YEARS, then blame democrats afterwards.
>>27926030
He literally said 'US loss' in his comment you dipshit
>>27926030
>War is about accomplishing goals
Like China taking the northern territory around the Vietnamese border in a swift battle...oh, wait.
Everybody loses to Vietnam, somehow.
>>27926083
The South Koreans got their shit together.
China won't do shit.
>>27926078
>did communism spread and take hold?
?
Yes, vietnam, cambodia, and laos went communist, and millions of people died.
>>27926122
It is okay, they were communists.
>>27926132
They weren't communists before the US came in, fucked everything up, and crippled the anti-communists in the countries.
>>27925943
>superior tactics and intellect
So ruthlessness, numbers and not giving a fuck what others think.
Actually, that's pretty good considering what Daesh deserves.
>>27925313
>China
>USA
>ISIS
C&C: Generals here we go!
>>27926148
Better dead than Red
>>27926166
They are still red today
tho
Same as china, gotta wonder if this is US incompetence or deliberately spreading communism. desu.
>>27926077
If the US didn't have a friendly south vietnam to land in, and to support them, things would have gone the same.
>>27926188
>desu
>triggered.jpg
>>27925761
The only intelligent comment here
>>27926079
Command & Conquer Generals, I believe
>>27926188
>things would have gone the same
Doesn't matter, China lost Vietnam. Why can't you accept that?
>>27926110
20 years ago it was still pretty shitty, man.
Hell, their police has been killing civilians by the bulk up to three years ago.
>>27926251
tonkin is rightfully chinese
>>27925958
>China, with support from Russia, could deploy millions of ground troops with modern equipment.
No they couldn't. Unless they mobilized on WW2 levels of calling up all reservists they couldn't muster a million armed combatants. Not to mention they couldn't deploy such a force even with help from Russia as Russia's military transport assists not in use with their military are being commissioned by other nations such as Germany for use overseas.
liveleak when?
>>27926263
Then why is the border north of the province?
>>27926270
This anon makes a good point.
I don't think most people realize how incredibly complex the logistics are of deploying a modern army far away from home.
>>27926270
>As of 2013, the PLAGF has a strength of 1,600,000 personnel making it the largest standing army in the world.[5] In addition, the People's Liberation Army Ground Force has an estimated 510,000 strong reserve force
They could just charter civilian ships, it's not like they would have to invade a hostile country.
>>27926270
They wouldn't need to deploy 1 million soldiers, a force of 50k would fuck ISIS up.
>>27926405
One real division would scatter ISIS without any resistance at all, really.
>>27926426
>mfw I just envisioned the entire 1st AD deploying to Syria
>>27925313
whats up with modern aircraft getting probes stuck on them? fucking asymmetry!
>>27926162
The US even has the laser units from Zero Hour! Shame about that Particle Cannon though.
So let's see, so far IS has managed to:
>piss off the US
>piss off Russia
>piss off France
>piss off China
Are they TRYING to get themselves destroyed?
>>27926466
>Implying we dont have that stored away "Just in Case"
>>27926525
...are you not aware of what ISIS is?
They're basically a giant suicide cult. Iraq has been a failed state since before the Iran-Iraq war and it's manifesting itself as ISIS. All ISIS's soldiers know of is civil conflict, power outages, and food shortages. ISIS was bound to happen sooner or later. But it was Obama pulling out + arming the FSA that finally sparked it.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
They WANT to be destroyed. Particularly defeated at Dabiq, Syria so Mohammed can come back and usher forth the Apocalypse. They're not sane and that's what has made them so much of a threat.
But bear in mind, they only really exist due to the power vacuum the US created by knocking off all the dictators in the region. Russia in particular sees this as an opportunity, which is important as Russia isn't exactly friends with China. Basically Russia wants to secure it's backyard (the Caucuses) which includes installing pro-Russian regimes directly south of that in the middle east proper.
It's why Putin is giving direct support to Assad. It's also why Rosneft is defying all logic and pumping out more oil than ever, so that it will keep the price of oil low and destabilize the US-backed Saudi regime:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/136821/Russias_Rosneft_Starts_Oil_Production_At_ArkutunDagi_Field
Russia wants the middle east like the US wants south america. And ultimately since Putin is more or less a dictator now, his regime is more stable than any in the mideast. And once the Saudis fall, that's when shit really hits the fan in the region.
tl;dr the past 30 years of US foreign policy in the middle east is coming crashing down, here's the obitary for it written by it's creator, Henry Kissenger:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-path-out-of-the-middle-east-collapse-1445037513
>>27926620
By the way, I'm not suggesting ISIS is in any way a Russian creation here. Just that Russia sees a tower falling so they're providing an extra push to have things go their way.
And as part of "going their way", Moscow, not Beijing, gets to be in control of the mideast. The former has a much stronger drive to commit troops/resources (they already have) than the latter who's separated from all of it (and has a larger conflict brewing with India).
>>27926620
>>27926631
10/10 will grab popcorn to watch
>>27926015
Holy shit kek
>>27926643
At the end of it, one of two things happen: ISIS assumes complete control and the mideast becomes africa-tier, or Russia sets up brutal pro-Russian dictators everywhere and the mideast becomes their playground. Also europe gets a permanent new minority group that cause their countries to have similar crime/violence rates as the US. Will make for fun banter.
>>27925975
you're thinking of Korea
>>27926015
oh god help me I can't breathe
>>27926671
Europe has had middle eastern minorities for 50 years, 7% muslims instead of 5% won't change a thing.
>>27926733
except this time they're all radical terrorists
>>27926015
fucking wot
>>27926789
Sources pls.
There was ONE potential (and entirely possibly it was a ruse,) syrian terrorist out of how many who entered France in the past months?
>>27926631
Will China v. India truly be the war that nobody in the west will give a shit about besides
>muh tech support, fuck off china
>muh cheap goods, fuck off india
Will nukes be involved?
>>27926030
The US did win in the end. You can find McDonalds all over Vietnam, plus the Viets have security agreements with the US that piss off China.
>>27926620
>They WANT to be destroyed. Particularly defeated at Dabiq, Syria so Mohammed can come back and usher forth the Apocalypse. They're not sane and that's what has made them so much of a threat.
>Mohammed
>http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
>After its battle in Dabiq, Cerantonio said, the caliphate will expand and sack Istanbul. Some believe it will then cover the entire Earth, but Cerantonio suggested its tide may never reach beyond the Bosporus. An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.
Way to put your words into the article's mouth there.
>>27926078
What was the goal of the USA during the Vietnam War?
>Prevent South-Vietnam to become communist.
How did it work out?
>The USA lost three allies (South Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia) who all joined the communist camp. Their allies - ex-ARVN personnel, montagnards tribes, hmong tribes, loyalist Cambodians - all got massacred by the communists.
If you don't consider this a loss, I don't want to know what you count as a defeat.
>>27926525
Throw in the UK and it's a royal flush for the UN Security Council AKA the Allied Powers.
Remember the last time they got together? Germany got Malachi crunched so hard it broke in half and Japan's emperor lost his godhood.
>>27925313
The World is Now Command and Conquer Generals.
>>27925958
>All lead by a nation that doesn't give no fucks about collateral damage, brutality, or their own casualty numbers.
North Korea?
>>27927685
That could be applied to any totalitarian country with large amounts of manpower.
> I wish a nigga would - the thread.
>>27926671
The question is, would Russia be able to pull a Kadyrov and extrapolate what they did to Chechnya to the entire middle east?
>>27927395
You can find people speaking English all over America, so who won the war of independence really?
The US looks like a cat that wants to eat a fish but doesn't want to wet its feet.
>>27926462
Pitot tubes, measures airspeed without use of radar.
>>27925943
dont forget their high quality manufacturing craftsmanship
>>27927654
>Malachi crunch
last time i heard that phrase, i was watching demolition derby "tournament of destruction" at santa fe speedway
>>27927864
I speak American you commie fuck.
>China
>doing anything beyond its sea and border
Remember all those chinkboos gossiping about their carrier coming to Syria? China will just shoot some Uighurs and call it a day.
>>27927983
Actually we do speak American. An American called Webster invented the dictionary and purposely spelled some words more practically. Dude was in tight with the founding fathers.
>>27927948
I first heard it in Idiocracy, but it's apparently from Happy Days. The term succinctly describes 1945 for Nazi Germany.
>>27925313
>that defy the bottom lines of human culture
> The Chinese Government
>>27928137
Neat. I think I'm going to bring this up everytime I tell a bong to speak American now.
>>27926620
>Muhammad
It's Jesus who they beleive is coming back.
(He is)
>>27926056
>>27926006
War is a continuation of politics. If you don't accomplish your political goals you've lost the war.
Does this whole ISIS things sort of remind you of the Boxer rebellion
>region where the world powers have various interest in with unstable and unpopular governments.
>Weird cult-like religion with lots of frustrated young men starts fucking shit up. (Fundamental Islam vs The Society of Righteous & Harmonious Fist) who believe that their faith will give them miraculous powers in the battlefield and execute tons of people
>All the Great Powers who normally oppose each other intervene to crush the rebellion.
>>27926251
Worse than that. China kept ducking around with Vietnam after getting their asses handed to them. When the Soviet Union imploded in 89, the Vietnamese went looking for another superpower to partner with. In 1997, Vietnam normalized relations with the U.S. By 2010 U.S. Navy Warships were making port calls in Vietnamese ports. In 2013 the Vietnamese military began participating in joint military exercises with the U.S.
The long and the short of it. The U.S. lost in Vietnam in a guerrilla war. The Chinese invaded and lost in a conventional war. The Chinese fucked around and drove the Vietnamese to become allies with the U.S. thirty years after they were blood enemies.
China, you done fucked up.
>>27929661
But that would make ISIS look like guys just trying to preserve their culture. So kinda good guys.
>>27926188
>If the US didn't have a friendly south vietnam to land in, and to support them, things would have gone the same.
You do realize China borders Vietnam right? They had a much better staging area than America ever had. Did the chinese suffer constant terrorist attacks in their "safe zones"? Fuck no, mean while America had to put up with that shit for over a decade.
Furthermore, every conventional military engagement the US fought against the North they won overwhelmingly. Meanwhile China got their ass handed to them. Lastly, the North was receiving aid from the USSR and China the entire time the US fought them. Where as when China fought them they had all their aid cut off.
Come to face reality 50 center, your people got embarrassed.
>>27927214
Two of the Paris shooters have been confirmed to have entered through greece. Sorry libtard, that isn't a "ruse", it's reality. Furthermore the fact that only two refugees, so far, have shot up Europeans doesn't mean the other 99% are non-radical. ISIS themselves have claimed to have infiltrated Europe with 1000s of agents.
>>27929661
ISIS doesn't have a baller name tho
>>27927395
When are our leaders going to learn you don't conquer the world with bombs and bullets, you do it with Coke and McDonalds.
Off topic, but China's incursion into Vietnam is quite similar to the Soviet invasion of Finland. The Cultural Revolution in China destroyed the command structure of the PLA in a similar way that Stalin's purges crippled the Red Army. The outcome isn't very surprising for anyone who knows the background.
>>27932863
>win with cultural victory
>everyone accuses you of no culture
Fuck.
>>27932463
>want to kill the majority of the worlds population
>preserving their culture
I mean I guess.
>>27926015
The last good Command and Conquer game ;_;
>>27926079
>>27927207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLt4_mP1nYo
>>27926620
>tfw
>>27925313
So did ISIS one up Hitler and declare war on the entire world?
>>27926620
Putin is truly an excellent example of how a demagogue can overthrow a (reasonably) functioning democracy. Once he assassinated an opposition leader in the streets in front of his Parliament, there was no more denying it.
>>27933750
>Implying C&C 3 didn't come after
>implying it wasn't shitloads better
This is why The South sided with Kane.
>>27928276
Shit I never caught that.
I heard it in that awesome NOFX song
>I should not have said that
I bet there's not many punk rockers here on k
>>27932762
Re-enter ed thru Greece.
Mate they're French and Belgian citizens, they just went to fight in Syria. They returned from there
>>27925943
>Truly ISIS shudders when they think of Chinese superior tactics and intellect.
Considering that ISIS is using 14th century tactics with a modern tech overlay, I'd guess that China is more than capable of pushing their shit in.
ISIS is playing to the Western sensitivities of their target audience. When they try that with China, they're gonna find out that they don't have the monopoly on mind-boggling brutality.
ISIS is like a rabid dog in a bar just before a brawl breaks out. Everybody will set aside their differences long enough to stomp it to death. Then they'll get on with the business at hand.
>>27934811
>NOFX
ayy
Saw them when I was 16
Does China have any notable special forces?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUgNLpjR-ME
> You will never carpet bomb goat fuckers from a Tu-22M.
Why even live?
>world coming in unity to push a bunch of terrorists shit in
>>27935781
lol, that scrap pile carries less ordnance than an f-35
>>27925313
>China will grow stronger.
>>27925313
>china was able to send their "F35 knock-offs" into battle before the burgers can send the "real" f35 into services
rip land of the whoppers
>>27926270
.. couldn't they technically just drive / rail car their asses over there?
>>27936121
>China produces rushed out garbage
>USA takes its time and gets things right
What else is new?
>>27934853
Re-entered as 'refugees'.
>>27936169
>f-35
>gets things right
pick one
>>27936852
>implying the f-35 isn't better than what it s replacing in literally every regard
>shitposting and parroting this hard
