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Why should civilians have access to the same firepower as trained Army Officials /k/?

Also, would you buy it? What'd they change about it from the older ones?
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>>27889179
>Makes her picture a tri color because 100's of civilians were shot and blown up the other night
>Lol why civilians need guns?
What a common cunt
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>>27889179
because we can cunt
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>>27889179
>mfw its just. 92 FS in tan
>9mm apparently is different in a "military" side arm
>mfw these people are still somehow smart enough to breed
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>>27889236
T R A I N E D

A R M Y

O F F I C I A L S
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>>27889236
Breeding and successfully raising a child to be a functional adult are two very, very different things.

I'm more concerned that they vote.
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>>27889248
Somehow i picture a soldier in a digital referee uniform

>MORTARS ARE OFFSIDES, 5 MRE PENALTY, SECOND DOWN
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>>27889248
You'd be surprised how little training they receive for handguns.
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>>27889236
>9mm apparently is different in a "military" side arm

That "Parabellum" gibberish could mean anything, right?
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>>27889179
So are any of you Trained Army Officials that would like to weigh in?
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>>27889275
Parabellum is German for Innocent Exterminator.
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>>27889273
Obviously you didn't receive your TAO cert or else you'd be a master with the M9A3.
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>>27889275
If one desires peace, he must prepare for war.
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>>27889288
>>27889273
Eh. Us MPs were crack shots with the M9 out of boredome. We'd do our table and then trick shot all day, like seeing if we could plink pine cones or acorns. Squirrels caught out and would wait for us to leave
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>>27889315
Well you were Trained Army Officials. Us civilians don't deserve such power man.
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>>27889317
We bow before their awesome power.
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That larger mag release makes it easier to load a high capacity clip, now the gunmen can fire twice as many bullets in 1/16 the time.

Bernie Sanders only knows how what a "threaded barrel" is.
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>>27889322
Don't disrespect a Trained Army Official dude. They wield incredible firepower like the M9A3.
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>>27889326
I hear it also ads more thrust per shot.
>>27889317
Sir, you leave my sides alone, you hear me?
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The tan paint job is to show that only innocent brown people can be killed by it.
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>>27889338
>Tan like your blood
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>>27889338
Also shows that only a TAO can use it safely.
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>>27889315
Thanks for your service. Its Trained Army Officials like yourselves that keep this country free from brown people.
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>>27889332
Damn, I'm going to have to get on my knees and shove that 9x19 dick in my mouth without gagging.
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You have it backwards

Why do our brave professional soldiers have to put up with the same sub standard equipment as drunk, untrained, illiterate rednecks.
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You have it backwoods.

Why do our highly trained professional soldiers have to put up with sub standard equipment.
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>>27889315
>>27889387
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>>27889179
>camouflage colors
>high capacity clipazine
>can accept a silencer
>rail for lasers and shit
Ban it
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>>27889179
Ha, you can clearly tell /k/ has been summoned on her profile.
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>>27889236
I thought these guns passed some military test or some shit
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>>27889179
I purpose Citizens can only purchase weapons from countries who have lost a war in the past thousand years
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I miss having a facebook, when bitches would talk about army shit and i would shut them down faster than the eilffel tower last night.
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>>27889704
America invaded Canada twice and got it's ass kicked
does that count?
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>>27889724
i was going to go with vietnam but that works too
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>trained
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>>27889279
Military Official here:
Its just a regular hand gun. We usually go for something that will be on the civilian market because it keeps the cost down.
Also the pistol in the OP pic has been available to civilians since the 1980's.
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my handgun course consisted of a few days learning drills then shooting the thing

haven't handled once since

TRAINED ARMY OFFICALS
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>>27889179
Only acceptable tri-color tribute
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>>27889704
PAPA FRANKUUUU
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>>27889959
Good post. As expected from a tripcode user.
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>>27889248
SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED
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In America civilians are militia. We have to register for the draft.

We should have reasonable access to similar equipment and training. Plenty of schools still have marksmanship programs, right?
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>>27889262
Fucking kek.
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>>27889704
I'd agree to this.
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>>27889179

>facebook french flag profil pic
>Why do u need guns guise?

I cant comprehend how retarded people can be
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>>27889179
The irony in that pic tho.
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>>27889179
Does she not realize this has been possible for a long, long time now?
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>>27890425
They all have the French flag on you moron
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>>27889179

yes.

/thread
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>>27889326

could you load a bredduh with a stripper clip from the top with the slide open
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>>27890547
Untrue.

>>27890575
That would be kind of awesome, but no.
I wonder if you could cut clip guides into the slide? I think the extractor would very in the way...hmm.
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Civilians having the same firepower as the government is the explicit purpose of the second amendment.
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>look up the price
>$1100 for an m9 with tan paint and a threaded barrel
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>>27890544

She genuinely doesn't. Anti-gunners are almost universally ignorant anything to do with firearms.

A great example is how the majority of them are convinced that an AR-15 you can buy at walmart is full auto.

That's what makes it so fun to debate them. They get BTFO and start floundering within minutes. Most of theses people live in an echo chamber, so they have no experience actually defending their beliefs.
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>>27889179
Firearms work based on tiers like in video games. The army variation is of course much more powerful than the typical rusty or standard variation. Sure you can get the hi capacity versions or the armor penetrating ones, but the Army one has all those qualities making it much more deadly.
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>>27890923
You get more than just that, but ha they still want $200 more than it is worth.
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>>27890956
>most of these people live in an echo chamber

Well to be fair don't we all
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>>27891010
Guess it depends on how you view it. I think pro gun people leave the echo chamber more often if only to look for their arguments so to be better prepared. I can actually rattle off the sources anti gun people use and provide objective reasons why the source is flawed while they don't even know where the information originated from.
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>>27889179

>trained army officials
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>>27889699
IIRC the military wasn't even interested in this pistol and told beretta to make something completely new or fuck off.
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>>27889279

Im a small arms repairer, i worked on the m9's a lot. they suck, the new ones arent much better.
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>>27889736
>drowned a country in napalm and agent orange
>lost
wut
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>>27891631
>completely new or fuckoff

This from the people that have been using the M16 and slight variations thereof since Vietnam.
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IN AMERICA ITS YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO OWN WHATEVER FUCKING FIREARM YOU MOTHERFUCKING PLEASE!!!! HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER WHAT THE FUCKING CIRCUMSTANCE!! AS AN AMERICAN IT IS YOUR DUTY TO PROTECT THIS NATION FROM TERORISM FORIEGN AND DOMESTIC WITH FIREARMS OF ANY FUCKING CALIBER!!! YOU MAGGOTS BETTER NOT EVER FUCKING FORGET THAT!!!

ps my head sounds like a war zone right now..
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>>27891733
>entered country to stop communism
>didn't stop communism
>won
wut
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What the fuck is your problems? Do you guys really think that people should just have access to the EXACT SAME FIREARMS as trained army force officers and special forces marines?!? Seriously, why do you need the same stuff they need, they are acting offensivly on an emeny and you just need a pistol to protect yourself!!!
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>>27893438
The best defense is a good offense.
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>>27889179
So is there literally any difference in the new M9 other than the color?
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>>27894137
Its also more expensive.
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>>27894137
>A modular grip better suited for smaller-handed shooters. Soldiers comfortable with the existing M9 grip can add a wraparound strap to keep the classic dimensions, Bailey said.
>An accessory rail — familiar to Marines who've used the M9A1 since 2006, but not to soldiers, who've used the M9 since 1985.
>A complete makeover of the pistol's "internals," Bailey said, which "have basically been updated to our latest commercial configuration, which has improved over 30 years, compared to the M9."

I love how they're charging like $900 because they "upgraded" their old parts for what's in the current 92fs. Which probably just means you get a plastic guide rod and trigger.
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>>27893438
Using a gun is not rocket surgery. You can teach anyone how to do it in about an hour. Then it's all just up to them practicing and becoming more accurate.

source: being trained to use guns by police and my father who was a Border Patrol firearms instructor for years. I was taught to shoot at age 7.
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>>27895081
>in about an hour.
it took an hour for someone to show you how to pull a trigger?
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>>27895062
>Which probably just means you get a plastic guide rod and trigger.
And then fudds like you will still cry for ages about "muh plastic."

Beretta has a decent product with the M9A3 and the price should settle around $850-900 within a year. Not bad.
You're paying that much or more for any other gun coming with similar features.
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>>27889179
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>>27895097
except plastic guide rods and triggers are worse in basically every way.
Do you actually own any guns? are you old enough to post here?

You can get a gun with the same features for significantly cheaper. It's called the 92fs. It's the exact same thing, just not tacticool tan.
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>>27895115
comment and ask her what she needs that kind of firepower for, and ask if she's a trained army official.
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>>27895116
>except plastic guide rods and triggers are worse in basically every way.
>He knows this because of the countless plastic guide rods hes seen break
>Wait, no he doesn't.
F U D D
U
D
D

>92fs.
>It's the exact same thing,
No threaded barrel, non-replaceable sights/no night sights, no rail, not vertec frame, no modular grip, not user convertible to FS or G.
R E T A R D
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>>27895126
She took down the m9 post, kek im not the first /k/ike to go to her page lol.
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>>27889179

>ER MAH GERD ARMY FIREPOWER REEEE

God damn it people are fucking stupid.
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>>27889273
>You'd be surprised how little training they receive
ftfy
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>>27892750
Unless it's fully automatic, has a suppressor, SBR, looks scary etc. Then that duty can take a hike.
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>>27895141
holy shit this post
you're so fucking stupid it's not even funny
not even glock fags think plastic guide rods are good.
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>>27895182
>Can't even refute one point
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>27895194
if you've never seen a plastic guide rod fail, you need to shoot more.
Or start shooting to begin with.
There are beretta 92s with basically everything you listed for cheaper than the m9a3.
it's not worth $900, when you can get a 92fs for $500 and add what you want for less.
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>>27895227
>anecdotal story about things he knows nothing about (shooting in general)
>There are beretta 92s with basically everything you listed for cheaper than the m9a3.
<citation needed>

Try harder.
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Handguns are literally evil.
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>>27889179

Civilians should have access to BETTER firepower than the government, and they do, not all but some and if you are not a criminal its possible to get the right permits.

Remember, the government is just a bunch of people who used to be civilians and they are supplied almost entirely by civilians. Same as it ever was.

Sure I would like to be able to go out and buy an M203 and crate of 40mm HE rounds for a few sheckles without waiting but frankly I am glad that it is hard to get that type of thing cause there are a lot of stupid reckless people out there and thats not counting the few people who are crazy as fuck.

I personally am a little nervous about keeping a large supply of ammo in a residential area.

That said, I think non violent felons should be allowed to have guns legally and anyone deemed a menace to society should be summarily executed. I feel suppressors, full autos and sbrs should be taken off the NFA list and I feel all states restricting concealed carry and certain cosmetic features / mag capacity should be stopped with an injunction from the FEDs but honestly, if we are going to let untermench live among us we do need certain restrictions.

I also think it would be good business if military ranges were open to the public and we could go pay to blow stuff up with grenades and abrams tanks.

They could make back some of that deficit perhaps.
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>>27895250
What the fuck else kind of story are you expecting about a broken guide rod? I've seen them break. Do you want me to show you graphs showing that they can break? I don't get it.
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>>27895251
What the shit?
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>>27895261
>i support freedom but not really because i'm afraid
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>>27895274
>Still making up anecdotes and being a fudd
>Still claiming there are identical Berettas for less he is incapable of citing
>Will probably cry and say "G-g-google it yourself!" next
Trying. Too. Hard.
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>>27895275
Chick on right is in "God Mode", a mode in which a hyper-intelligent AI tells her what to do.
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>>27895319
>Trying. Too. Hard.
pretty much perfectly describes all of your posts.
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>>27895279
Yup. That mindset is all to prevent.

The solution is that any and all arms and ordinance should be available at your corner store. BUT, the owners of said store should be allowed to deny service for any and all reasons.

That way if Mohammad and co. come marching in and demand that they want to purchase a baby-killer 3000 lasgun, the owner can say no without risk of a discrimination lawsuit
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>>27890425
They wouldnt want them to defend themselves, they just want to pat themselves on the back for being compassionate.
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>>27895274
>I've seen them break.

Congratulations then. The majority of other people haven't. And it's not because you're the hardcore "shooter" you think you are and say you are on 4chan, it's because it's a non-issue and they don't break any more than their metal counterparts do.

Plastic guide rods have been the norm on guns from Glock, Beretta, SIG, CZ, and more for roughly a decade or much longer now and they work fine. Still, we have pervasive stupidity from know nothings like you who decry them and say "OMG it will melt!" or "I need it to control the extreme recoil of 9/40/45!" Can they break? Sure, just like a metal one, but somehow when a plastic one breaks there's always an idiot on standby to say "Hyuck hyuck, dem dam shitty tupperware parts!" even though they break no more often than metal rods do.

Basically, you're a moron and just regurgitating false information like a fudd.

Also, either post a link for this Beretta of yours you claim matches the M9A3 in all ways at half the price or put the dick back in your mouth and hush, Cletus.
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>>27889179
>isn't what happened in France terrible
>oh and by the way, if you want to do something to actually PREVENT such a thing, fuck you
>changing my profile picture will save many more lives
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>>27889179
because fuck you and anyone who doesn't like it. we likes them liberul tears, they make good gun oil
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>>27889315
most service members are't MP's
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>>27890072
underrated post
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This profile looks like a fucking mess, so many dumb things. Also... How many of you guys are there?
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>>27895328
Does that AI magically stop gun recoil as well?
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>>27895261

>>27895261
>I personally am a little nervous about keeping a large supply of ammo in a residential area.

Why do you have an angry kissless virgin dual personality that's about to snap?
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>>27898649
She's one of Whedon's Chosen Waifs, she laughs in the face of recoil.
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>>27893180
Won the war but lost the peace.
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>>27889248
This, desu.
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>>27889179
This is obviously a troll facebook account; all of the pictures are anonymous and hitler and shit

As usual, /k/ is gullible as fuck
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>>27889704
Soooo... all of the arms manufacturers that we have currently?
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>>27889724
And that was after your successful blockade of our country, plus your just as totally successful invasions of our country, twice, right? :^)
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>>27895115
>needs help to fight the Boss
>forgetting the basics of CQC this hard
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>>27895261
>anyone deemed a menace to society should be summarily executed
>anyone deemed a menace to society
By whom?
Immediately brush your teeth with some .45
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>>27889179
>trained Army Officials
That's where I quit reading.

11B to 25C to 56M. Aside from a short infantry stint, I've spent my entire time in support of SOF. Most of that spent on the range. M9's blow, period. I've seen far too many locking blocks break. I'm glad we finally got G19's.
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>>27901205
war ended with evacuating as many people as possible as the enemy was on their metaphorical doorstep. this does not count as winning.
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>>27889179
Designated. Shooting. Officials.

Shooting.

Officials.
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>>27889959
10/10 post
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>>27903936
>I've seen far too many locking blocks break.

>Why are my 30 year old poorly serviced and beat to shit firearms experiencing parts failure?
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>>27889335
just like this barrel shroud?
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>>27904427
>thrust per squeeze
kek what in the fuck
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>>27889179

>civillians

There's no such thing, anon.
Humans are humans. Sometimes they put on colorful costumes and get paid by other humans to do dangerous stuff, but there is no magic line that makes government employees somehow metaphysically different from anyone else.

There is no government, just people.
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>>27889248
MALE

TO

FEMALE
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>>27889262
>Mortars
>Offside

I don't have insurance to cover the pain my sides are in right now
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>>27889262
I thoroughly loled.
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>>27889759
>Military Official here

That explains why you're such a stupid cunt that this whole thread went over your fucking head.
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>>27904734
CAN NEITHER:

COPULATE

NOR

LAY EGGS
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>>27889179
>Why should civilians have access to the same firepower as trained Army Officials /k/?

>Equating a pistol that fires 9mm Luger to the full extent of the military.

Crappy bait OP, crappy bait.

>>27889275
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9719mm_Parabellum

Think before you type, silly.
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>>27905132
Excuse me, 9mm NATO,

I.e. 9mm +P
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