Does anyone own the k31?
Ive been really thinking about buying one.
Hows the ammo? Any surplus?
>>27779155
mac and iraqvet said buy one while its cheap and so i did. gonna take my gf kid to shoot whenever the ammo gets here
I guess my real question is if the k31 is better than the finish mosin nagants
>>27779189
Look at it this way, what do you think is better: a weapon made by mentally addled manlets, that was improved by snow fairies, or a weapon made by some of the most precise and skilled craftsmen in the world.
>>27779189
I own a K31 and M39. I love the M39 but the K31 is an exquisite piece of military surplus for an econo-rifle price.
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>>27779241
k31 it is
Hows the ammo?
>>27779258
Prvi Partizan makes 7.5 Swiss now. Surplus GP11 is drying up but can still be found.
>>27779272
>Surplus GP11 is drying
OH NO.
How bad is it?
>>27779326
Most of the suppliers are out of stock currently but it'll be back. I figure it'll be a lot like 7.62x54R, in that as the Swiss rifles proliferate here in the US you'll see more ammo companies tool up for the cartridge. Might never be as cheap but you will be able to shoot them without too much hassle.
>>27779326
>>27779405
>$379.99 for 480 rounds of GP11
I'm sure it is flying off the shelf.
>>27779326
I wouldn't worry about it, Privi is making good shit and it is re loadable with .308 components. You are saving your brass, right?
>>27779189
Depends. I like my finnish mosin more than I do my K31, but it just comes down to a matter of preference, and what you shoot better with.
Get a K31, and don't look back. It's a good excuse to get into handloading too. I don't see anyone really regretting their purchase of it.
dont buy one if your from new york becouse no local shops carry it even though ppu makes new production. Other than that i bought one for 300 and not having shot it its fucking beautiful.
GP11 ammo availability is spotty, but they don't really go up when they are available. They are imported a only few times a year and each time they come in they are available for a few months before running dry. The current "shortage" isn't anything new. GP11 ceased productions in the mid 90s I think, but the surplus we've been getting are still in the early 80s, so they should be available for a good while longer.
commercial ammo is available, thought its like 70 cpr instead of 50 cpr when SGammo has it.
Having both K31 and M39, well, I can't really say which I like more. The K31 isn't the most comfortable to shoot for me (it's fat and my tiny hands can't get a good grip), while the M39 is very ergonomic. The M39 sights are very precise though and harder to aim with my shit eyes. I shoot my K31 more though.
I've had one for like 3 years
Outstanding rifle
>>27779326
GP11 goes in and out of stock. I would buy about a thousand rounds at a time to make sure I can wait until it comes back at reasonable prices.
GP11 is still very popular in Switzerland. If it runs out the original equipment is still ready to restart production.
If you're still worried, get into a simple single stage reloader and reload Privi or GP11. GP11 is Berdan primed though so you'll need a special decapper and primers.
Yes, it's my favorite rifle.
A joy to shoot, and very accurate.
Buy one and refinish it.
>>27779155
Yall been saying it's cheap but I can't find any under 395
>>27779180
>gf's kid
I loved the one I got to shoot, but I need to stock up on another niche caliber like I need a hole in my head. Now if I could get my hands on one of the .308 rechambers, I'd be a happy man.
>>27781218
I need a .308 k31 in my life... How get ?
>>27779155
Do you want to buy the best manufactured and sexiest milsurp rifle?
Then buy a K31.
They are absolutely fucking gorgeous.
>>27780750
fuck anon.....that wood looks too good.
I wouldn't refinish my own K31. It has the troop tag, and I would like to leave it the way that Fritz left it. Maybe I'd refinish one without a troop tag to feel less guilty, but still.
I have a 1936 production
absolutely wonderful trigger, tack driving accuracy, and the straight pull is fun as fuck
get it now before they dry up
>>27781367
They're incredibly rare, so unless you can find one already being sold, you have to have the work done. This is one of the names I've seen come up before but I'm sure there are others.
lprgunsmith.com/K31_rifles.htm
>>27781367
The projectiles are .308, only the case dimensions are different.
If you reloaded (as you should), you wouldn't care.
Worth mentioning for those who aren't familiar with GP11 is that it's a great factory load (one of the best), but it's easily surpassed even by an amateur reloader/handloader as most loads are.
Man I keep forgetting about the K31 somehow.
Anyplace decent have it in stock atm?
>>27781609
AIM and Classic Firearms has them for almost the same price (if not the same). Classic seems like a better store, so I'd buy from them over AIM any day.
>>27781649
Both of those places are out of stock.
>>27781658
Holy shit, you're right. And they just got a shipment in yesterday. Stick around, it's possible they haven't got them all inventoried yet. Also, subscribe to their Youtube page, that's how I find out about all their new stuff.
>>27781605
I love it when people use my OC!
>>27781682
Thanks for the info!
>>27781510
I'm working on getting some replacement furniture to refinish instead of altering the original furniture that came with mine.
>>27781649
>>27781682
How much was your bayo?
>>27781847
$40 from AIM. It was marked as one of their B-grade ones so the finish on the scabbard is a little worn, I don't care though. $60 for a nice looking one is a solid deal (and $100 for one with the original buckle-style frog but you probably aren't interested in that).
>>27781912
Good to know, thanks!
>>27779155
I have one, love it. Ammo has always been available if a little expensive but I'm used to paying more for shit just because Canada
>>27781510
Well it's a unissued K31 made for private use, that's why it looks good.
Whats up my bayo boys
This thread needs more frogs.
>>27779180
>raising someone else's garbage.
quit being keked m8. pussy isn't worth it.
Have the k11 it's an incredible shooter. I imagine a k31 is just a nice if not better
I have a couple K31's and a k11 and they are my favorite surplus rifles. Most acurate surplus rifle I have ever shot, most reliable, and when you get the battle pack of surplus ammo it comes in a pouch and then smaller boxes instead of a spam can that takes forever to get into, and then having paper bundles falling appart.
>>27784616
Some spam cans are fun and takes less than a minute to open.
And for those with really deep pockets, the K-31's younger brother, the ZfK55 sniper rifle. Which apparently sells at upwards of $4500.
>>27785355
The entire action is canted 15 degrees specifically to make sure the scope is over the bore and that the charger clips still fit.
Amazing engineering.
>>27781561
I believe Haemmerli sold 7.62 NATO K31s at some point. Not sure if they still do. I would be prepared to pay well over 1000 USD though.
GP11 is incredibly cheap when it gets imported though. For 58 cpr 7.62 NATO is usually total dogshit for accuracy.
>>27779155
Fucking love my k31, ammo is great, rifle is accurate, straight pull bolt is cool
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>>27785618
>>27785709
almost like a shit oil painting
>>27781510
Hey, my K31 was issued to a Fritz too.
>>27783584
Too dark for a picturr of my frog now, but its a lower serial even then my bayo
>>27779180
>gf's kid
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>>27779405
>Canada
>>27785709
Nigga phones today be like 700$ fuck off
>>27786650
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/AT-T--Microsoft-Lumia-640-Black--No-Contract/productID.320816400
$60.
>>27782014
where did you get it?
The k31 all have a bolt hold-open thing to show that its empty, yeah?
>>27791017
Yes, they have a mag based BHO like any military bolt rifle.
>>27791028
have you got one? how do you find it?
Like a nugget?
>>27791038
>have you got one?
Yes
>how do you find it?
Find what?
>>27791051
i meant like what do you think of it
>>27791058
Oh, is good rifle /k/omrade. Just wish mags weren't literally impossible to find.
>>27791069
I saw polymer clips for them for cheap on amazon
>>27781649
Classic is allegedly a "christian" store yet they censor and delete ANY review with the slightest hint of negativity.
You could post a 3/5 star review and have about a 50% chance of it being published.
Fuck those kikes and their selective censorship.
Now you know why every gun is at least 4+ stars and why I dont buy from them anymore.
felt like punching the owner in his fat fuck face every time my honest and clean reviews got deleted or rejected.
>>27791081
I mean actual mags, not clips.
>>27791096
a store in aus has a lot of them
but they are very expensive
>>27784778
This reminds me that I have one of those unopened somewhere in my closet.
>I buy so much stuff I don't remember what I have.
>>27791110
Can't be much worse than here. Last one I saw was on Ebay for like 150 dollars.
>>27791117
yeah pretty much that price
>>27791121
Well at least they're around, that was literally the only one I could find.
did they come with different sights on them
the one i was looking at didnt have that round kinda button on the rear sight
>>27786650
You don't need a camera upgrade, you just need better lighting.
>>27791096
They're serialized (as if I should have to point this out). The only reason I can imagine they were made removable was for easier servicing.
Load with a stripper clip/charger like any other military rifle.
>>27791086
I've seen plenty of negative reviews on their website.
>>27791377
Fact is mine didnt get published and they were clean and not really negative.
>>27791293
anyone?
>>27790625
In Switzerland.
You guys only receive the beaten up stuff.
>>27781649
I've bought from both, but in general AIM is a better business. Classic constantly feeds off FUD to spur sales and makes shit up to justify prices. Although I guess some of their bullshit did evetually come true a few years after (they were screaming about nuggets and food being increased in price at the exporter level around the end of 2012 early 2013. Which was bullshit at the time, but now prices for both have gone up pretty much 100%)
Customer service for both is good, but AIM is a bit better. I had issues with a PU scope and they actually contacted Vic Thomas (The nugget expert who appraises imports) for me. Classic customer service is nice the few times I've had to deal with them, and they did go the extra mile for me once by prioritize shipping for one of my orders so it gets to me before I leave for an extended trip. They issue is that they sometimes ignore emails or don't call back.
There are some issues with AIM for me, but it's the same issue classic has as well. Being in CA, both of them just refuses to sell certain stuff to CA despite it being legal.
>>27781609
If you actually want to have a choice, you buy fro one of the largest swiss rifle importers; simpson ltd.
This the kind of stuff that we have in Switzerland.
>>27791328
>They're serialized (as if I should have to point this out).
They made non-serialized replacement ones anon, you used to be able to buy them for ~30 bucks a pop.
>>27791682
what's all that jibber jabber on the receiver where the crest should be?
that's a nice looking gun, but I'm very well satisfied with my 1941 K31. it's not terribly beat up looking.
>>27791870
Duly noted. I still wouldn't recommend using them as detachable magazines.
>>27792004
Why not? Just because it wasn't in the MoA doesn't mean it will hurt the gun.
>>27791651
Don't remind me...
>ich werde nie Schweiz sein
>ich werde nie ein fast perfekt K31 haben
Why live
>>27791971
That's a special version of the K31. It was made for a society of gunsmiths.
>tfw finally get c&r and it's out of stock
>>27792366
yeah too bad that one place is the only place that sells them
>>27781201
samco global, also classic just got a shipment in
My funny looking K11 receiver.
>>27791651
tell me more...what store and can be imported to merica? I am willing and able to pay a pretty penny for that.
>>27795057
this. Tho i am planning a euro trip once im done with school, so maybe I could stop by Switzerland for more than chocolate.
how would I get those shiny beauties back to burgerland, though.
>>27781649
Classic knowingly peddles bullshit rumors and sells junk rifles.
You can find okay deals and reasonable prices if you shop around their site but they also sell completely worthless and knowingly flawed rifles with BS brutus descriptions stating how great they are.
>>27797197
Them peddling bullshit is spot on, but the guns they sell are from the same sources as everyone else, unless you're talking about their AKs and ARs, then yes, the guns they push the most are from terrible or manufactures only they sell.
The latest thing I think was with Waffenwrk guns. Classic was selling old returned guns at a discount, and saying that it came with the full warranty. DDI stated that it's not true, they won't honor the warranty, and to not buy it. Classic did sort of force DDI to honor the warranty in the end though. It's good for the buyers in the end, but it was s dick move by classic to offer for sale shit and potentially non working and promise warranty without even talking to the manufacturer first.
>>27779189
The Finish Mosins is a good Mosins. The K31 is a good rifle.
>>27779155
It's amazing. I'd recommend it over the mosin if the ammo was more available.
>>27792460
What are the differences between the k11 and the k31?
>>27781204
>>27784416
>>27786398
Never change, /k/
Mine's Okay. I have a Walnut one. It's my least shot of the WW2 era rifles and while the action is novel, I didn't find it enjoyable. To each their own and it's a fine specimen to collect.
>>27798876
baka.
>>27779155
i have a k31 and k11. i was getting vertical flyers until i followed these instructions:
http://www.swissrifles.com/sr/pierre/accurizing.html
after installing spacers now i get 2 inch 10 shot groups. im satisfied.
>>27798832
Nothing really
>>27791069
You don't actually want to reload with magazines unless you have a huge scope blocking the top of the action.
Use the charger clips, they're absolutely faster than magazines.
>>27791293
Mojo sights are a waste of time and money. If you see one on the K31 it's a bad sign and you shouldn't buy it.
If you're referring to diopter sights where the rear sight is mounted near the bolt handle, those are worth about 400 USD alone.
>>27798832
A ton of changes. The K31 moves the bolt lugs to the front of the rifle, the sights start at 100m instead of 300m, the bolt handle is aluminum, the barrel is longer. The K31 also doesn't have a shim on the barrel bands unlike the K11.
>>27799712
Anon, I more just want it for spare parts in case something stupid happens to the one that came with the gun.
>>27799725
What's wrong with the Mojo sights?
>>27799757
The whole point of an aperture sight is to focus the incoming light and help align the front sight. Mojo sights only do the second half because they're too far away from the eye.
They're functionally identical to the notch. If you want better sights, either get optics or diopter sights.
>>27799783
I though the idea was to be more like an AR/Garand style sight, not a proper diopter. It still seems better than the stock sight as I can barely see them.
>>27799799
The Garand sights help with focusing incoming light. Not as much as a diopter but enough.
