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> no improvised weapons
> no plans and prints
Homemade weapons thread.
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>>25483577
>C.L.I.T.
my sides
>>25483479
M11 part 1
http://www.mediafire.com/view/b0u3ppwel9aj7ln
M11 part 2
http://www.scribd.com/doc/246415836
MAC 10 (1:1 with original)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/252060906
>>25483479
>>25483479
Simple derringers:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/254227075
>>25483703
>>25483782
>>25483782
am i retarded or is it impossible to download shit off scribd
>>25483861
Make a quick throw away account with a fake email if you want. It'll tell you to upload something first (You can delete it afterwards) so just find a random pdf to use, upload it and then it will let you download.
You can use Cutepdf to make PDF files out of random webpages, which can be quicker than finding one.
> Australian politicians are actually talking about regulating 3d printers.
Imagine if a virus could spread and start printing shitty single shots across thousands of computers, turning everyone into criminals overnight.
>>25484098
'some dead faggot'
What's that all about? And why have I not seen this before? It clearly spells '/k/' in the bottom pic.
>>25484172
I'm assuming it's some sort of trip, Or tag or something. Neat little thingy though
>>25484172
The guy behind the plans is a huge weeb and usually tags his designs with a picture of a sleeping anime foxgirl. See pic (down right corner)
Did this k/lansman ever show his face again after becoming world famous?
>>25484985
>k/lansman
go smoke a dick.
Hey, I've got a bunch of stuff. Any particular requests?
>>25484985
Yes, He posts often. We all had a great laugh as it went round the world.
>>25488276
Paladin Press please!
>>25488276
MAC
>>25483577
>pipe
Eh... I know shotgun shells are relatively low pressure, but how safe is just using pipe really?
I think if I were to do this I'd go for some DOM tubing instead.
>>25488438
>>25488480
I'm only posting the weapons/blueprints related stuff out of these - There's way too many other files in the Paladin Press folder to even begin uploading.
C-4 Manufacture
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262111146/Paladin-Press-Ragnar-Benson-New-and-Improved-C-4
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262111194/Homemade-C4-A-Recipe-for-Survival-Ragnar-Benson-Paladin-Press
Automatic and Concealable Firearms
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262111258/Automatic-and-Concealable-Firearms-Design-Book-Vol-I-Paladin-Press
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262111275/Automatic-and-Concealable-Firearms-Design-Book-Vol-II-Paladin-Press
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262111292/Automatic-and-Concealable-Firearms-Design-Book-Vol-III-Paladin-Press
MAC Model 10 .45 Receiver
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262111457/MAC-45-ACP-Receiver-Mag-Housing
Waiting for other stuff to upload.
>>25488628
Better MAC Frames
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262111813/Machinist-Drawings-for-SMG-Frames-MAC10-MAC11-Cobray-M11-9-CobrayM12
Building a full auto MAC (The guy who did this got V&)
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262111910/M-11-9mm
10/22 Stuff
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262112083/Ruger-10-22-Select-Fire-Full-Auto-Conversion
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262112088/Ruger-10-22-Full-Auto-Conversion-Version-2
>>25488276
What's in the Paladin Press folder? Sardaukar folder?
>>25488707
If I had a rare pepe I'd give it to ya. Thank bud!
>>25488628
>>25488707
So... this makes sense.
>>25488712
I've got a pretty complete collection of the Paladin Press books from various sources. Mostly explosives/locks/"survival" stuff.
The Sardaukar folder did have some lovely AOWs, but it is kill. I'll have to grab it from my other HDD.
>>25483479
this is pretty detailed. follow VERY VERY carefully.
>>25488276
Mega dat shit homeboyeee
>>25488754
Contents of said folder, at least the pdfs.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262112679/Sardaukar-Gun-Plans
https://www.scribd.com/doc/262112655/AR-7-the-Rocker-Full-Auto-Conversion-Sardauker-Press
>>25488726
It makes perfect sense.
>>25483703
Can someone reupload the mac 10 pdf on mega?
>>25488803
It makes more than perfect sense. Were you in Chicago?
>>25488781
I hate seeing this keep getting posted, it's both unnecessary because it's easy as piss and incorrect as it skips a pretty important step in making them not turn out like dogshit
You're supposed to put zipties inside the paracord where the inner cordage goes for rigidity, that way the magpuls stand up on their own. Without this, they are pretty fucking useless as magpuls.
>>25488849
I know what you're insinuating, and yes, I was there, but I had nothing to do with it.
>>25488833
Attempting mediafire for that and other stuff.
>>25488276
Everything you have on the uzi and the welrod.
>>25488898
I'm not saying you had anything to do with it. Hey I may not follow your likes and interests but I wouldn't attack you over it because I too like things that get me a lot of flak.
>>25488833
Here you go.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/09jjvnucea5tv2o/252060906-The-MAC-10-Construction-Guide-Practical-Scrap-Metal-Small-Arms-Vol-6.pdf
>>25488902
Ask and ye shall receive. (If you're into receiving)
http://www.mediafire.com/view/az32aac6jw83gap/2008-08-07_062752_UZI_Lower_Receiver.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/zzmtc8a23jjpzlf/2008-04-24_030442_Uzi_Blueprints.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/6w0n0h7oft8eyez/C45EB_Full_Auto_Vol_2_UZI_Single_Pages.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/n6j6bj3o5ocwykf/ECC78_UZI_Full_Auto.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/2ljflrwp98kbeey/521C7_Sleeve_Gun.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/d7khg5gu7rlpmav/Micro_UZI_Machine_Pistol_Sem-Auto_Modification_Manual.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/1pccvv1qy1pbmvd/E98E5_Welrod.pdf
>>25488276
DeLisle carbine Next please.
>>25489030
Don't have a fantastic amount of info on either the DeLisle/Welrod, you'll have to keep and bear with me.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/0gai7laujg7pw64/DeLisle_Patent_Full.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/a33wvgayrqwhz19/De_Lisle_Commando_Carbine.pdf
>>25489060
It has what I need, I've been trying to work with the idea of a slavshit equivalent, chamber a Mosin in 7.62 Tokarev and make it run on TT-33 mags.
>>25489117
At that point you won't need a new barrel. Just make a chamber insert that accomidates the Tok cartridge. I've used Tok rounds in an insert in my nuggets before with good results.
>>25489139
I had no idea those existed. Now all I need is a Mosin, and to file suppressor paperwork
>>25489139
I don't have the SAAMI specs for 7.62 Tok handy, but I'm fairly certain it wouldn't do anything horrific. The insert could probably even be made out of pretty shit steel too, unless you intend to fire steel cased.
Does anyone have any interest in Bill Holmes / Luty stuff? I've got pretty much everything.
>>25489212
>>25489218
I think you could just use this. Make it permenant and then modify the bolt to grip the Tok cartridge instead of the insert. Lastly just insert the bottom part of a tok receiver in the mag well. Hell you could even leave the grips on since the fire control unit comes out of the gun. It would take a lot of fitting but its not impossible.
>>25488276
FN FAL please
Also what PDF's do you have for the MP44? I've seen this one already
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/06/14/mp-44-stg-44-blueprints/
, but I wasn't aware that there was more.
For the rest of you, you guys can download the upper PDF and lower CAD file here on my website:
http://kommandopost.com/blueprints/
>>25489255
The rim of the insert will have to go to get correct headspacing with the modified extractor. Modifying the extractor shouldn't be too hard, and recycling the Tokarev frame to act as the magwell is genius. I might actually be able to go through with this.
>>25489345
If you make one of these let me know and I'll send money for another one plus a rifle.
>>25489294
Despite being a tremendous faggot, I've never really had the hots for the FAL, and thus, only have a bit on it.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/a766p74g47joxu9/21FB4_FN_FAL_Reciever_Blueprint.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/gdc0baqq3g1yl46/E6B94_FAL_.762_L1_&_C1_Drawings_&_Parts_ID__Part2.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/0t5u9bs1h5tvm73/FN-FAL_Manual.pdf
The MP-44/STG-44 stuff I have is fairly standard, however, I have some drawings done in a CAD program. Need to make them into a PDF to do anything with 'em.
I also have a bunch of VERY large image files of AK schematics, if that's of any interest.
/k/ really needs to support .pdf files.
Have plans for a STEN.
http://a.pomf.se/enpfxt.pdf
>>25489382
That version is from the Submachinegun Designer's Handbook and... incomplete at best. Some user modification required.
I've got a physical copy of proper STEN MKII blueprints, and I could probably scan them in if anyone is as anal as I am.
>>25489360
I'll be sure to. Probably sometime next summer when I have more time off from college.
>>25489438
You could just scan what the main differences are
>>25489371
You can upload non-PDF CAD files to Mediafire.
>>25489014
BASED
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>>25489465
Here's a folder filled with what I've got. Well, the stuff you haven't got, that is.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/iuqi2koleldft/STG-44
>>25489463
There's... a lot of fuckery and simplification in that version. The most crucial bits are the barrel bushing area, but pretty much everything is different/incomplete. I've got a commercial scanner, but I don't want to destroy the book and there's 138 pages of stuff. I'll most likely just grab the bushing for you guys tomorrow.
>>25489507
Thank you kindly.
>>25489573
Neat. Do you have the DXF or whatever CAD version of that StG44 there?
>>25489595
Unfortunately not. The only CAD files I've got are for stuff I've designed.
>>25488552
It's not like you fire it from your hands anyway so does it matter?
And yes, regular plumbing pipe usually is fine for shotgun shells.
>>25488276
All of them?
Why scribd man :/
>>25484172
I don't know, I haven't been on /k/ in about 7 months, and he was pretty long-dead before that. The guy was active within the last year and a half or two years here, and had some great fucking plans.
I think I spoke to him once or twice, too. Nice enough.
Anyway he had a "Give to /k/ if I die or am incarcerated" package that was released at some point, so he's probably dead. Oh, everybody speculated / maybe confirmed that it was suicide. Cool dude, but a little faggy in that sense.
>>25490498
Something happened to his sister in some godforsaken Asian country and he became suicidal. As far as I know he went to Southeast Asia to revenge and/or kill himself and we haven't heard from him since. This was in late July I think.
Anyone have the entire collection of his plans? I'm missing most of them. There should be around ten or so, right?
>>25491029
>>25491038
>>25491052
>>25491067
>>25491029
>>25491038
>>25491052
>>25491067
>>25491094
>>25491100
your a good man or atf
>>25491128
>>25491139
>>25491146
>>25491155
/r/ing kommando's 9mm suppressor schematics.
>>25489573
Im not sure how to deal with this!
>>25488276
Upload all of them on drop box, media fire or megco in a rar? :3
>>25488781
I'd like to give it a shot, but it seems so easy to fuck up...
If only he did a video tutorial with comments, just to make sure I don't miss a step between two pictures.
Damn!
>>25484156
>tfw i work at an ausfag school and have 3d printed 5 ar lowers
Is the thread kill?
Bumpan
>>25489463
The 'machinist's drawings' floating around are only rough estimates. You can visually see the results aren't 1:1 with original in the top pic.
More usefully, you'd want to get rid of the rotating magazine well (Use STEN MKIII layout), select fire set up and heavily milled parts. A simple, full auto only version as per below would fulfill all requirements.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/5v4852yage8d8c5
>>25488552
>safe
land mines were never intended to be safe
totally not how to make a full auto tokorev right here
Does anyone have plans to build an AK or something?
I want to 3d print one in 1/3 scale
>>25488276
Ak schematics, por favor!
>>25489060
>http://www.mediafire.com/view/0gai7laujg7pw64/DeLisle_Patent_Full.pdf
Thank you.
For the anon wanting a slavshit equivalent, I have test-fired the Valkyrie Arms DeLisle remake. The key to it being quiet is the inherently subsonic .45ACP. A Tokarev round is moving way too fast to make it quiet.
>>25493970
You do realize pictures are usually not taken at perfect profile views, right?
The photo may be skewed a little since the camera is not pointing perfectly 90 degrees at the central plane bisecting the gun.
That does not mean the drawing is wrong.
>>25488781
>follow VERY VERY carefully
Kek'd pretty hard
>>25494006
>land mines were never intended to be safe
Lets say, at least reusable, then.
>>25495786
It is reusable. Plumbing pipe can take it, and there's basically two pipes taking the pressure so it's no big deal.
Trying to get shit ready so I can make a SA Sten based on measurements Zafta took of his
Currently having a bit of a crisis worried that it's going to be a huge waste of time because I lack experience and what I'm doing won't be good enough etc
I feel like this is the part of the design process that needs copious amounts of alcohol introduced
>>25493970
It's been known for a long time that the common 'machinist's drawings' aren't exact to the original nor from any official source. There are plenty of part's kit build threads that come to the same conclusion from measuring original parts. You can see the results are very obviously out of proportion with the middle pic (especially the barrel shroud), which is an example 100% drawn to scale.
>>25495999
Meant for:
>>25494933
>>25483479
Thanks /komrades. I've been playing with solid edge and needed some blueprints to fuck around with. Much appreciated.
>>25495839
Well, I got some pipe laying around that I suddenly may just have a use for...
>>25494725
>>25494732
Here's some AK drawings for you.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/sjc69wqfd3zrm/Drawings
I've got my STEN plans all copied, need to scan them back in.
>>25496910
Got SVD?
>>25496910
Dude downloading these one by one is just painful..
>>25496910
Here's all the STEN scans, in a convenient zip file! I'll eventually get around to making better ones, but these are very nice regardless.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8uhoj4w6augfbnx/STENScans.zip
>>25497304
Unfortunately not, but I wish.
>>25483802
This looks siege capable. The fuck am I looking at?
>>25497951
Looks like a ballista anon. Appears to be one of the twist rope (as opposed to crank/latch) ones.
Whatever happened to the /k/ollection?
>>25484985
>A nu, cheeki breeki i vi Damki!
my sides
Cowboy Orks exist.
>>25497880
Duuuude can you zip the ak too? For some reason the download for the JPGs stop even thought its only 3 mb per pic
>>25498636
Yes sir!
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a5lqdx9y18q3c8i/akm.7z
>>25484985
> Hecho en Belgium
Damn those hijos de waffles!
>>25484985
>dem ching chong comments
>>25498615
Waaagh!
>>25500183
>all dose pics
Why
>>25501384
Why knot?
>>25484156
>swiggity swooty, I'm comin for the luty
>>25499774
Are there plans for that?
>>25495936
He measured a Indianapolis Ordinance bolt!? That would help me soooo much with my sten build. If you have them/could refer me to him that would be fantastic!
>>25497880
These plans are really nice! Much better than the originals I found elsewhere. I wish I'd found these before going through and manually converting the units to burger...
>>25484156
I'd believe it if Australia tried to regulate printers in general. And pencils. And Legos.
Oh cool improvised shit
>click thread
>see images
>close thread.
>>25503243
You have a problem with guns?
>>25503270
No, I have a problem with a certain someone expressing and posting images of their fetish. Info is quality. I'd prefer if it was images of firearms.
If i wanted to see furry shit i'd browse e621 or some crap
>>25495936
If this thread is around Sunday I'll have a working caliper. If you want better mesurements
>>25502463
I feel a little bad but I do very highly recommend the IO kit, bolt, tube. Just a little pricey
>>25484985
he didn't get any money from that stunt. The police wouldn't take them. He posted a thread all pissed off about not being taken seriously at the bolice station
>>25503315
it's funny because if it were 250-300 for the full IO kit id build a MKII and III but that 410 price tag leaves such a bitter taste in my mouth I'm not sure I'll even buy one
>>25503293
>fetish
Calm your tits, he posted pics of a faggot who got his dumb ass ran over by a car.
>>25503381
I am perfectly calm, and it is a fetish.
That is rather unfortunate. I hope it was quick.
>>25483479
>>25503315
I would buy the kit, but I wanted to make it all myself. It's mostly a machining project. If you have even crude drawings of it, that would be a massive help. The part I'm most interested in is the striker + rear of the bolt. If you have the time I'd really appreciate it if you measured:
the striker
the striker channel
the diameter of the guide rods
the holes for the guide rods (how far they are from the center axis, or circumference)
You can do drawings in crayon and post them here. I don't need anything fancy.
>>25503357
Basically what I'm working on would be a variant of the IO kits that uses glock mags instead of sten mags. Some other people have shown interest in buying these, and I might consider doing a few extra ones to sell (cheaper than IO)
>>25503427
>>25503357
Yeah, though I bet you could easily sell it for a profit on Gunbroker seeing as no has made complete semi STENs for sale
>>that feel when two more stens to build
>>25503428
Haha, alright I be able to till at least tomorrow morning
>>25503559
If the thread disappears by tomorrow, my email is [email protected]. Feel free to get in touch. I'd love some input on my sten build.
Please, op, can you add this all to a magnet and setup a torrent?
http://m.wikihow.com/Create-a-Torrent
>>25483479
Wasn't this the MAC homebrew with the bolt that was horribly underweight?
>>25496910
>>25500183
Thank you is of many!
This thread's slowly dying..
I spent 2 hours last night profiling a new firing pin for my DPM28 on my lathe only to fuck up the last operation and bend everything to hell.
>mfw
>>25505846
so that's how isis dose it.
>>25506864
googled the pin. leme guess too heavy cut on the tip of the pin? or turned the crossfeed the wrong way.
>>25506874
DP28 pin on right.
The M version has a longer tail as a recoil spring guide.
In my semi version I lopped off the tip, and drilled it though, then pinned the tip in place into the bolt.
So I was making a new fp insert that would go in the tip, acting as the actual pin.
Stock was out too far, and I figured I could get away with it if I made light cuts...
Nope. Hopped right up on the cutter.
>>25502038
They're basically the same as the 2nd model in here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/254227075
>>25505846
The backwards facing trigger is an automatic safety.
Could you [safely] build a sten (with a closed, unlocked bolt) in a full rifle caliber? Alternatively, what's the largest caliber you fire with a closed, unlocked bolt?
>>25507372
No.
Case head separation would occur, even with a mass large enough to slow the acceleration, the pressure is simply too high, and the case grips the chamber walls too tight.
There used to be a US .mil project out there looking into it, it required lubricated ammunition and ejected cases so violently
>it was considered a hazard to bystanders
>>25507408
>>25507372
Thats right, the Thompson Autorifle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Autorifle
>On the positive side, the Autorifle action avoided the complexity of recoil-operated and gas-operated actions.
>On the negative side, the Autorifle required lubricated ammunition for proper functioning and the ejection of spent cartridge casings was so violent as to be hazardous to bystanders
I remembered that article almost word for word. Neat.
>>25507408
20mm cannons didn't have locking bolts. Advanced primer ignition.
Really no need to lock the bolt if you have perfect timing and don't care about the condition of fired brass.
>>25507432
They also fired from an open bolt using the slamming mass as an added inertial lock.
>don't care about the condition of fired brass.
Hence the fluted chamber on Jisuri. Its all about getting rod of the grip.
>>25505074
I've been around in diy threads for ages. here's how it went down
>new OC plans start popping up
>soon people realize that it's the same dude behind all of them
>he starts tripping because some people wanted him to
>new plans every month or so
>suddenly no new plans
>starts being all emo and shit
>tells us he's going to anhero
>some fag from /lit/ comes along and tells the other side of the story
>apparently his sister had died in Cambodia or something
>we assume he goes on a revenge trip
>suicide note is posted few months later
>comes back late 2014
>the guy doesn't want to explain anything but implies that he "did what was necessary" and that "he found peace"
>promised to continue his work
>disappeared again, this time suddenly without a warning
I am pretty sure he got caught and is in prison. In his earlier posts he did say that he had been in prison before, for arson and weapons charges IIRC.
Not very related to the topic, but I found the guy interesting enough. And his plans were pretty good and some of the designs were really interesting despite being simple as shit.
>>25488276
AR-180.
>>25507813
Thankya.
>>25507813
Your US Machine guns of 1917 have any good drawings of the tripod?
anyone have galil prints or models
>>25488952
Brony detecteeeeeeed???
>>25507993
Already had that one. Been slowly trying to get the dead wood versions as well for my shelves. Price adds up quick.
You should check out the DTIC archives. Lots of interesting reading in there. Currently reading on project POLCAT.
>>25507408
>>25507426
What's the largest caliber that would be safe to use then?
>>25503357
Question is do you want the classic looking STEN gun, or do you want a 9mm carbine. Because I've been working on a budget build that uses a few parts from the STEN, but requires all the rest to be built. Still working on the fine details, and if people are interested I will release the plans once I build it.
What programs do you all use to design in?
>>25508398
Solidworks and AutoCAD Mechanical.
Just found some of my orginal AutoCAD discs. Version 1.2 on the old 5-1/4" floppies
>>25508360
Looks good, I'd suggest flipping the charging handle slot. Having it more in view would make for a better indicator that something is amiss should one forget to retract it and send it into battery. Also, is that an AK grip and FCG?
>>25508462
In the works, I used some of the original STEN plans to model in CAD as a building block. Changing the angle of the charging handle will be one of the last things I do. And also yes, cheap and reliable AK trigger is going to be used in my build. The AK grip is something that works with the flat lower receiver so it felt right to include it also.
Anyone have plans for this thing?
Or anything other than the three pics I can find on it being used?
>>25508624
What is it?
>>25508624
What exactly does that do?
>>25508733
>>25508737
Bottle opener.
>>25508752
>Bottle opener.
ak lightning link?
>>25508733
>>25508737
What this guy said >>25508752, >>25508764
Yes it is.
And I don't* have an AK. But I sure do love me some bottle openers.
>>25508773
But its on the outside, is there something I am missing?
>>25508797
It goes on the inside, the pic is just to show it.
>>25508797
The bottle opener is sitting on the receiver, because the person photographing it doesn't have access to an xray machine to show it being conveniently stored amongst the FCG.
>>25508797
>>25508818
>>25508833
One of the other two available pics...
Would ATF care if someone manufactured these bottle openers with cutouts for opening bottles, and then sold these bottle openers as bottle openers?
Why am I asking?
>ATF
>Alcohol Tobacco Firearms
>Alcohol
>>25508860
And the last one.
Guys, am basically begging for some bottle opener schematics for this beast. It isn't as easy as the AR because, as you can see, it isn't two pieces and (basically) one dimensional.
>>25508860
Forgive me, I don't know a lot about bottles. What exactly does this bottle opener do?
>>25508883
When the bolt is in full battery the front end is pushed up causing the rear end to depress the disconnector.
Auto fire in a semi only reciever.
>>25508862
I have heard that a lot of people at gun shows specifically did that. Or maybe they sold the cut out capable things as paperweights, I don't recall.
What I DO recall is that the ATF (specifically the A part) really hated the whole minors-getting-bottle-openers thing. Something along the lines of enabling a minor.
>>25508883
This one works a lot like the AR bottle opener, but it works for an AK. Somehow. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
>>25508909
Is it actually full auto or that you-can-pull-the-trigger-super-quickly 'full' auto?
>>25508929
true auto
>>25508929
>you-can-pull-the-trigger-super-quickly 'full' auto
it takes alot of effort to become Jerry Miculek
>>25508624
>>25508860
>>25508880
It's not a true link, as it requires a hole to be drilled in the receiver. IIRC a few were sold, then the ATF revised its position saying that the receiver is the MG. This was during that short timeframe where giggle enablers were not MGs,even post 86.
Now if they made a trigger pack of some sort...
>>25503315
Cool, there only seemed to be 2 measurements I was missing but they're easy to fudge, but more accurate readings on the bolt diameter would be nice before I order the steel stock
Legitimately considering aluminum though, need to check strength ratings but hell in WWII there were plenty of STENs with cast bronze bolts so eh.
>>25508880
If you're okay with going full auto regardless of what the ATF says, have you considered just getting a slidefire stock and popping a spring or something in it?
>>25509061
Actually, I have. Slide fire stocks are initially designed to not accept springs, and especially not the springs big enough to push a gun forward.
Bump.
