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KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF
Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG
Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net
Fleet builder: http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html
Combat Mechanics:
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EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat
Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818
Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png
Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me
Drop and construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList
Voices, sprites, furniture preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev
KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/RyuuKitsune/ElectronicObserver
PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA
KanColle Movie trailer: https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E
News:
-Asashio Kai 2 has been implemented. It will come with a Kai 2 D form, with which it is reversible. She will be capable of equipping daihatsu and Ka-Mi at Kai 2 D, but not at Kai 2.
-8 new quests have been added, including a limited time summer quest which rewards a summer furniture. In addition, a new type of quest, the trimonthly (seasonal) quest, has been introduced.
-2 new and 3 returning early summer furniture have been added.
-Zero Fighter M32 has been implemented, and can be obtained from development. Its Skilled variant, Zero Fighter M32 (Skilled), can be upgraded from Zero Fighter M21 (Skilled).
-Zero Fighters M21/M32/M52 (and their variants) and T96 fighters can now be improved. Proto 61cm sextuple oxygen torpedoes can now also be improved.
-Iowa is now fit with her own guns, the 16 inch Mk.7. They can now be upgraded to a high accuracy variant with GFCS, which can be further improved.
-Kamikaze Kai, Harukaze Kai and Shigure Kai 2's base ASW have been buffed by 2 points.
-Ushio, Ayanami and Hatsuharu's max firepower at Kai 2 have been buffed by 2 points. Hatsushimo Kai 2 has also received a stealth buff of 1 point to her max firepower.
-Isokaze Kai's max luck has been buffed from 59 to 77.
-An opening ASW attack phase has been implemented. It will take place after support fleet attack phase and before opening torpedo phase. Isuzu Kai 2 can perform the pre-emptive ASW attack unconditionally. Every other ship needs 100+ total ASW, which can be increased with levels or equipment, as well as either a depth charge or sonar to perform it.
-Depth charge animation when fighting submarines has been sped up, among other UI/graphical fixes.
-Shiratsuyu has received a mobile phone seasonal sprite in commemoration of the Android port's implementation.
-The Android port has undergone a maintenance to accommodate 80k more players, who have been selected by lottery to join the original 250k lottery winners.
-100 new and returning Rainy Season lines have been implemented, along with new seasonal sprites for Hayashimo, Kiyoshimo, Akebono, Yuudachi Kai 2, Mizuho, Yuubari, Mogami, Chitose and Chiyoda, as well as returning sprites, and new and returning furniture.
-The Mutsuki-class DD that will be implemented this summer will have an early summer seasonal line.
-Summer Event will be implemented next month; however, it will not be a large-scale event like the last summer.
bongo a shit
>>15487045
Ah, yes. The arbitrary first post shitposter.
>>15487045
Kinda I guess.
To continue the discussion last thread about KanColle ditching flash for something else, as someone who works a a software company where they still use Silverlight, changing from one framework to another is like pulling teeth. It's expensive in terms of man-hours and training and if there's one thing corporate overlords hate it's spending money on things that don't directly make money, so upgrading is a tough sell. Even if you have to switch (because the software is literally dying), you're often forced to carry bad design decisions into the new version because nobody is given time to figure out how to do it right.
Now, flash isn't quite as dead as silverlight, but if they're planning on keeping the game going more than another year, they have to be weighing their options for alternatives.
Best part about last update is how preemptive ASW finally ended the 1-6A nukesub's reign of terror. I love it.
>>15487086
1-5A*
>>15487086
That just means there will be 2 nukesubs in the troll node in the next event.
Super interesting.
>>15487104
Whatever, that asshole alone probably cost me more buckets than all event submarines combined. Glad to see him turned impotent at last.
>>15487070
I figured as much. Thanks for replying though. Is the raw data (stats, equipment, ships, etc.) in and of itself less of a problem than working on a means for an entirely new framework/engine to interpret that data, or is it something else?
>>15487086
You don't really need a BBV now, just replace her with another DD or CL.
>>15487104
There is always the option of bring more than just one preemptive ASW-capable DD/CL(T) in the escort fleet.
>>15487119
>all event submarines
How new are you? Honest question.
I was literally only doing Taihou LSCs with the hopes of getting Shoukaku off a failed attempt.
Desire sensor seems to be very real.
But at least I won't have to waste bauxite in the future trying to get Taihou, and I finally have a CVB.
>>15487184
Been playing since november 2013. Events come and got, but 1-5 is there forever
>>15487185
>CVB
The other crane can become one as well, you know.
>literally only do Taihou LSCs
The first five in the list will not yield any CVs as far as I know.
>>15487121
If KanColle's anything like my company's software, there's multiple problems at work. If all your developers have experierince working in flash and are working on flash games full time, they probably haven't had time to learn anything new. Anyone new you bring in who has experience with the new tools won't have any experience with your games, and that is much harder to teach. It'll be quite an undertaking just to rebuild what they currently have in a new framework and every new feature and page they add to the game makes that more difficult. As for the data, the backend of the game probably won't be affected by ditching flash, but that also means there won't be any chances to correct any mistakes that have built up over the game's lifespan. Making any change to the player data or how its structured is probably something they avoid like the plague as it would need intensive testing to avoid messing up user data, and its obvious their testing team is small if it exists at all. In the end, if they're devoting their time to upgrading the front end, they'll probably end up neglecting the back end while they're working on it unless they have multiple teams working on the game. Do we actually know how many people work on KanColle?
>>15487195
You haven't had any issues with SS hime or subs during transport fleets?
>>15487196
That's just all my recorded LSCs after I installed KC3, I only started on like Feb 28th or something, right at the end of the winter event.
>>15487196
>>15487208
Also I can't exactly convert one of the cranes into a CVB without having the other to start the quest line.
>>15487199
No, and when you put it that way - all their eggs in one basket, sounds exactly like the KC devs, really - I'm not optimistic. They don't even earn that many shekels from the game itself; most of the revenue seems to come from licencing rights and franchising.
So... yeah. Unless their corporate overlords are sufficiently benevolent, I don't see an upgrade happening any time soon.
Well fug, guess I was slow in making a new thread.
>>15486202
>>15486205
I knew it. I fucking called it.
>>15486317
They still never carried it historically.
I think giving them 41cms as stock equipment in remodels was the mistake.
>>15486406
They can still do it now, and in the future.
>>15486946
It's time to buy screws lad.
>>15487199
To add on, a couple of months back, during the event, someone mentioned that 2ch was hypothesising that there was an influx of new staff prior to the Spring event, because of something-something change of the financial year in April, resulting in the bug-ridden event we ended up with. That should tell you all you need to know about the devs ability to incorporate new people into their team (assuming that the 2ch hypothesis is correct, of course).
>>15487119
>him
>>15487185
>>15487218
>CVB
>>15487218
>>15487185
You can't convert them into that at all because there's no playable CVBs in the game. Don't falsely claim to have one when they don't exist. Why are you bringing up large aircraft carriers in a post about an armored aircraft carrier, anyway?
For what purpose is this setup considered as useful? This isn't the first time I've seen this being done either.
>>15487291
Default AACI?
>>15487291
Are you wondering why people put AACI on Akashi (hint: levelling) or do you seriously not know an AACI setup when you see it?
>>15487107
So, what happens now?
>>15487107
What am I looking at here?
>>15487364
I thought it was a map.
>>15487322
>>15487333
E-peen furniture contains a map of the Kanto region.
>>15487426
>TTK plotting out his favorite love motels
Why not just update Kuroshio?
so will iwamoto and iwai keep their stars or only reppu 601? should I rush to upgrade skilled 21 and 52 before next maint or does it not matter for those?
>>15486943
>the fixed version came out when fighters with rockets could do the same job of taking out AA-guns on larger ships and still damage less armored smaller ships.
I can't wait for enterprise mk2 that can attack with planes at night with rocket damage vs installations.
>>15487493
Inb4 Mk 3 hypothetical remodel capable of carrying jets (assuming that she hadn't been deemed surplus and scrapped)
>>15487307
The Akashi was level 1 as flagship along with a full married ranking fleet. It was like for ~11 hours until the reset.
>>15487295
Akashi's default equipment does not consist of duck guns or an air radar.
I have 2 blueprints. I want to use one on chikuma so I can use her in 5-4. which crane should I use the other on? I should be able to get a third one this month and hopefully one more next month before the event starts.
>>15487537
Didn't people tell you to fuck off a long time ago already?
>>15487540
I don't listen to bullies.
>>15487537
I think Akagi would fit the role in 5-4.
>>15487537
>should be able to get a third one this month
Then why the fuck do you care what order you do it in? There's no event before next month.
>>15487537
>>15487540
this >>15487540
>Didn't people tell you to fuck off a long time ago already?
Just fuck off potato hater, maybe reddit, himeuta, wikia or even some facebook group will accept you.
>>15487537
convert your bp's to screws & use them to upgrade Roma's guns.
>>15487562
well some people don't like remodelling zuikaku because she loses the camo, but on the other hand remodelled shokaku kind of looks like a potato.
>>15487617
>shokaku kind of looks like a potato
Hey maybe that's the one he should remodel.
>>15487631
He will scrap her after seeing her remodelled form
>>15487634
>>15487639
>>15487617
They are both potatoes, along with Bismarck and every other LSC ship.:^)
>>15487634
been waiting for this for months, don't tip him off please
>>15487107
Could be a hint for future maps, could just be reflecting the historical Army ABs around Tokyo.
Did Asashio not get any new lines with her Kai Ni? I haven't heard anything new yet (unless they're exclusive to her combat form).
>>15487714
new chuuha/taiha line iirc
>>15487714
Doesn't she say something about the promise?
>tfw no Asashimo
I finally managed to craft an observation plane only to accidentally scrap it immediately afterwards. fugg.
I swear that first sub got more accurate after last update.
what is the best way to level mutsu for 41cms? she's slow so I can't take her to 5-4. are pvp and 3-2 my only options?
>>15487836
Just doing 5-4A is fine.
>>15487535
He went to sleep or out or got engrossed in other game. Happens.
>>15487824
>farming Isuzu
>>15487854
can you do that with red faces like 3-2?
>>15487894
Read the wiki.
Is that plane conversion bug still possible?
Did the dev say anything about it?
>>15487952
The devs have allowed it. No idea whether or not it was intentional.
Does it really pay off having Souryuu and Hiryuu dupes for support expeditions? As I see it, the difference is minimal and I'm not specially fond of using dupes.
>>15487985
Hiryuu yes. Not sure about Souryuu. Would prefer a dupe crane kai ni for that.
>>15487956
They don't have any better choice since their code structure is like Fusous' bridge tower.
SIX KOUS ON THE SCREEN
KOU MEDALS STILL GLEAMING
TWO MONTHS OF IDLING
NEVER STOPPED ME DREAMING
>>15488002
>>15488005
desu!
>>15488002___ :v ___
>event next month
Is it time to stop doing LSC?
Will Sonar or planes be more important in the next event?
>>15488098
Devs already twitted about air power being important. Get your seiran and bauxite stockpile up.
>>15488098
Radars will be the most important.
>>15488098
Surprise, it's bulge time
What's the fastest way to farm ChiChi's for rocket tubes?
Take them to 35 and then scrap them? Go to 50 for two?
Assume you have a theoretically infinite number of ships.
>>15488199
Go to 5-4 to obtain and level cranes.
What a cool opponent I ran into. I wish there were more like him out there.
How's this plane setup for 4-3? I plan to bring 2 CLTs and 1 BB(V) as well, as well as DD flagship.
>>15488348
Too much damage, try to use some worse planes.
I used CVs instead( Hiryuu and Souryuu), but they would steal MVP on the submarine node sometimes.
Just run it yourself and fine tune it.
>>15487288
Come on now, the use of "CVB" for armored carriers is so entrenched there's no use trying to correct him.
>>15488368
Someone from wikia tried to change it but admin there think such a change would detach wikia from other community and thus freezed the case
Are you going to spend quality time with freedomboat today?
>>15487531
CVN-65, here we come.
>>15488380
>Speech in English, thoughts in Japanese.
Shouldn't it be the other way around?
>>15488347
I'm not used to PVP, are you being sarcastic? What are the PVP fleet changing rules so I can try and help others too?
Anyone here have an improved Fighter-Bomber? People all around the world including Chinese and Japanese players all want to know what improvement bonus will apply to dive bomber but none of them willing to sacrifice their +14AA fighter
>>15488437
Fleet for PvP is the fleet your oponent left in its first fleet. Base EXP you earn from a PvP battle is determined by the level of the 2 firrst ships in the enemy fleet
>>15488437
The xp you gain from PVP is based only on the levels of the first two ships in the opponent's fleet, so fighting him wouldn't give any xp at all, ie he's being a dick. Put two high-level ships in the first two slots of your first fleet or have all subs so that other players can get easy xp off of you.
>>15488448
>>15488447
Thank you.
Ironically I had no idea what the wiki chart meant and now it makes plenty of sense hearing it simplified like that.
Does your fleet change at all besides the reset periods for others, or can I set strong ships then go back to what I was doing after it?
>>15488463
It changes in real-time.
so do we upgrade Type 52 Skilled Fighters or wait until they make named Reppuus and Iwamoto upgradeable sometime soon?
Anyone know how to check if possible when I signed up to DMM's website?
>>15488500
Your email.
>>15488507
Welp, guess I'm fucked. Nuked all my history.
When will one of the Parsley ships remodel into a Harukaze look-a-like so I can pretend my kantaidex is complete?
>>15488446
Anon... Iwai is +12 at MAX.
>>15488573
How did you fail to get her? She had a 8% drop rate and even drop from A rank.
>>15488614
I had >50 S ranks and bitch refused to drop. Only got her when clearing.
>>15488621
>not even triple-digit S ranks
>being this retarded
You lucked out, so stop your whining. I hope you already have all LSC ships so there will be one less person complaining about Bismarck/Hotel/Taihou construction rates.
So, the current power level is
Shinden kai (15)
T53 Iwamoto MAX (14)
Reppuu kai MAX (14)
Reppuu 601 MAX (13)
T53 Iwamoto (12)
T52 Iwai MAX (12)
Reppuu kai (12)
Reppuu 601 (11)
T52 skilled/601 MAX (11)
T52 Iwai (10)
Reppuu (10)
>>15488636
You're the one who's fucking retarded.
8%.
Go back to school.
>>15488644
It's like you how ships can still fail to double attack during yasen; if it isn't 100%, don't expect anything to go your way. And again, complaining about not even 100 runs total is like a child throwing a petty fit, regardless of the drop rate.
Enjoy your LSC construction and future event drop rates.:^)
>>15488677
>if it isn't 100%, don't expect anything to go your way
I'm not doing that you stupid faggot.
>And again, complaining about not even 100 runs total is like a child throwing a petty fit, regardless of the drop rate.
You're fucking retarded.
I already have complete dex for your information.
>>15488638
You can't upgrade Reppuu Kai.
>>15488677
*It's like how
>>15488677
I am neither of them, but you sound pretty retarded. The amount of runs matter, in correlation with the drop rate. If something has a droprate of , lets say, 50% and you would not get it after 10 runs, it is your very right to complain.
>>15488693
>it is your very right to complain.
Nope. That's not how probability works. Amounts of runs has absolutely no correlation to drop rate.
>>15488704
You're fucking retarded. Go back to school because you're the one who has no idea how probability works.
The chance of not getting 8% drop in 50 runs is 1.5%.
>>15488704
>Amounts of runs has absolutely no correlation to drop rate.
So you are trying to tell me, you wouldn't even have to run the map at all in order to get a ship that you can only get as a drop there?
Nice.
>>15488706
Pls, petty insults are childish. One, fifty, billion runs — it doesn't matter at all, the drop rate would still stay the same every single time.
>>15488704
Do you not know how probability works
>>15488720
Nobody is arguing that you goddamn retard and it is utterly irrelevant to what the talk was about in the first place.
Never post again.
>>15488683
But you are, dumbass.
>>I had >50 S ranks and bitch refused to drop
from >>15488636 already shows how you expected her to drop from not even double-digit number of runs.
And not for long, hence "future". Learn to read, you self-entitled moron.
>>15488693
Just because you meet the theoretical threshold of the number of expected runs to get something, you shouldn't expect to meet it often; it could be more, it could be less. Just stop your whining and fuck off already.
>>15488714
Didn't think you'd be this retarded to extrapolate not even having to run the map at least once, which was already insinuated.
>>15488728
But you're arguing that drop rate magically changes if you do more runs.
>>15488732
Why do you think there is only 1 person arguing with you?
Oh, you can't even quote properly.
>>15488732
*from >>15488621
>>15488732
> you meet the theoretical threshold
To meet that "threshold" he'll need to do ∞ number of runs and that's obviously impossible.
>>15488732
There's 98.5% chance she would drop in this double digit amount of runs you retard. I had the right to expect she should drop way sooner than that.
This figure is way higher than probability of getting Yuu on E3 in 200 runs.
Amount of runs by itself doesn't mean absolutely anything. It only matters together with drop rate. If you think otherwise, go back to school.
>Just because you meet the theoretical threshold of the number of expected runs to get something, you shouldn't expect to meet it often; it could be more, it could be less. Just stop your whining and fuck off already.
You would have a point if it was 30% or 50%. Not 98.5%. Go back to school because you have no idea how probability works.
If one can't complain about 98.5% then nobody can complain about bad luck ever.
>>15488734
I'm not you cretin.
>>15488691
I think it is a possible scenario when they let us upgrade Reppuu.
>>15488736
The chances that it's just one anon trying to defend his self-entitlement is much higher than two or more.
And I mistyped a number.
>>15488760
>self-entitlement
Stop misusing words.
>>15488769
He is typing out the post numbers, what would you expect?
>It's another argument episode
>>15488776
I want to strangle people who don't know what are they talking about.
>>15488779
Good luck doing that on the internet.
>>15488747
> I'm not you cretin.
But you do in your very own post. See this bit
> There's 98.5% chance she would drop in this double digit amount of runs you retard
? That's wrong and not how probability under Laplace works. You just had 50 chances to get heads on coin toss, not 98,5%. Your anecdotical evidence is amusing but has no correlation to reality.
Into the bloody fray of this thread, Littorio has arrived!!
>>15488788
>That's wrong
It isn't wrong you goddamn fucking cretin.
Her drop rate is 8%.
The chance of not getting her in one run is 92%.
The chance of not getting her in 50 runs is 92%^50=98.5%.
The chance of getting her in 50 runs is 1.5%
Total chance of getting her in 50 runs IS 98.5%.
Go back to school and never post again.
>>15488799
Pls. Probability cannot be usefully defined in terms of the frequency of occurence of some event over a large (or infinite) number of trials.That's probability theory 101.
Why don't they fire the Pasta ship artist? It's so sad the Pastas look like shit because of him. They shouldn't have to suffer people thinking they're ugly and not being popular because their father and creator sucks at drawing.
>>15488799
Whoops.
The chance of not getting her in 50 runs is 92%^50=1.5%.
The chance of getting her in 50 runs is 98.5%
>>15488809
Zara and Pola are alright, he's moving in a good direction.
>>15488810
No anon, you should interpret it as "the chance of getting her at least once in 50 run" not that you will get her in the 50th run.
>>15488809
If they're going to fire someone it should be Kuso Ichishit.
CVB
>>15488825
How did Shiggy hurt you Shiggy hater?
Reppu
>>15488823
>you should interpret it as "the chance of getting her at least once in 50 run"
I am interpreting it as that since the very beginning you cretin. Where the fuck did you see 50th in any of my posts?
>>15488809
There's plenty of girls that are popular despite shit sprites because fanart fixes everything.
>>15488838
I love Shiggy. What I don't love is her artist. They should just give all his ships to Amamiya.
>>15488838
You can like girls and still think their artist is bad you know.
>>15488840
Repu
>it's another anon failed his probability lessons in school episode
With that said, these drop rates are why I've been taking the "I'll get them when the game wants to let me get them, not when I want to get them" approach.
>>15488850
Liefeng
>>15488809
I kind of like their art, only Roma looks like shit
>tfw you haven't had to pass 150 runs to get any ships so far
>>15488809
It's the dev's fault for making a loli artist draw breast ships.
>>15488872
u wot
>>15488876
It's not just the art. Their voices give the impression that every part of their body hit puberty but their voice boxes.
>>15488846
>every Shiratsuyu is just Samidare in a different color and hairstyle
Not sure that would've been any better than multiple Shigures.
>tfw 7 months newfag
>still no event with reasonable chance to get pastas
>>15488887
If I had to guess, the devs hired the VA thinking that he would draw a loli-like BB. Turns out he drew breasts and it all went to waste.
>>15488892
Well he did like Mami from Madoka as well.
>>15488892
>loli-like BB
That excuse might work if there was precedent.
>>15488890
They're just trophies and shiplock-spares at best.
>>15488896
They are the best FBBs after Iowa
>went line ahead at sub node by mistake
Fug
>>15488356
Anyway, how's this then?
>>15488901
Both Iowa and pastas are irrelevant in face of Bismarck.
>>15488901
Not with that consumption they aren't.
>>15488907
I would say Iowa and Bismarck are about even if you disregard the cost. The original poster was clearly just installation baiting though
>>15488895
Loli-like doesn't mean loli. They could be short stacks just like Mami >>15488893.
>>15488914
What else could it mean?
Mami is nothing close to loli.
She doesn't have kiddy voice either.
>>15488907
How do you get to the events without installations?
>>15488919
My name is John Smith.
>>15488907
Bismarck isn't that good especially when you have Heavy cruisers.
>>15488907
>>15488907
Torpedo stat doesn't count when hitting installations so she's 5th below Iowa, Roma, Kirishima, and Littorio.
>>15489041
>Littorio.
I meant Italia.
Man I just have the worst luck with new Kai2s. I swear when Kasumi and Satsuki got their kai2s it took me days to find them. Now that Asashio got hers I still haven't been able to find one and I've been looking since patch day.
>>15489041
Except she has better defensive stats so only Iowa is truly better than her.
>>15488583
ah right. But situation still the same. No one convert to fighter bomber yet
Destroyers that can do preemptive ASW strike(base ASW 86) with just one T4 sonar(+12 ASW) and pair of urakaze guns(+1 ASW each) and level required:
Without Marriage:
Asashio D - level 94
With Marriage:
Satsuki K2 - level 107
Libeccio K1 - level 112
Asashimo K1 - level 113
Верный - level 124
Harukaze K1 - level 126
All Akizuki-class K1 - level 130
Ushio K2 - level 132
Shigure K2 - level 133
Okinami K1, Kamikaze K1 - level 137
Murakumo K2, Mutsuki K2, Kisaragi K2, Hatsuharu K2, Hatsushimo K2,
(cont.) Yuudachi K2, Urakaze K2, Kazagumo K1, Z1 Zwei, Z3 Zwei - level 140
Fubuki K2, Kasumi K2/K2B, Tanikaze K1, Nowaki K1, Hagikaze K1 - level 144
Oyashio K1, Yuugumo K1, Makigumo K1, Naganami K1, Hayashimo K1,
(cont.) Kiyoshimo K1, Takanami K1 - level 148
Akatsuki K2 - level 150
End.
Light Cruisers that can do preemptive ASW strike(base ASW 88) with just one T4 sonar and level required:
Without Marriage:
Isuzu K2 - level 50. She's special.
Yuubari K1 - level 93. Two T4 sonars required, base ASW 76.
With Marriage:
Sakawa K1, Naka K2 - level 106
Kiso K2, Abakuma K2, Agano K1, Noshiro K1, Yahagi K1 - level 110
Jintsu K2, Sendai K2 and the rest of CLs but Tenryuu class - level 117
Tenryuu K1, Tatsuta K1 - level 148.
End.
>>15489168
>levels STILL don't matter for Isuzu Kai 2
>>15489181
She needs at least level 50 so they do matter.
>>15489168
So Uraguns ended up actually being useful huh
>>15489203
Not really.
>>15489203
They are about as useful as Iowa
>>15489203
They don't change the fact only Asashio K2D can do opening asw with just one sonar before marriage.
>>15489168
>Akatsuki K2 - level 150
Nine more, doesn't look likely for next event.
Thank you for the great post! Very informative.
>>15489211
Asashio D gets 88 base ASW at level 97 and the rest require 5-7 more levels to reach base ASW 88 too. If you don't have enough levels or fielding Akatsuki K2(she's the only one who can't reach 100 ASW with just T4 even at level 155) but still want preemptive ASW and double attack they are useful.
>>15489246
Levels don't matter.
>>15489232
>doesn't look likely for next event.
You can get her to 150 in less than 1 week.
>>15489168
Can Ayanami K2 do it at 155?
>>15489168
>Urakaze K2
i stopped playing kancolle when marriage came out, but i appreciate the amount of porn generated by this kind of waifubait.
can anyone recommend me some slutty new boats? iowa looks good so far.
>>15489273
>i stopped playing kancolle when marriage came out
>boats
You don't deserve anyone.
>>15489268
I said "likely", not "theoretically possible".
I'm an enemy of mindless grinding.
>>15489271
Only if you ASWmod her
>>15489271
Nope. 66 base ASW at 99 is the cut-off point. 65 base ASW at 99 already requires level 157.
Will this shit be useful now?
>>15489313
IIRC all the ships that can equip it have 0 base ASW, so no.
>>15489168
Now all we need is to upgrade those guns and we have a new elite list.
>>15489347
Asashio K2D and Isuzu will be enough for ASW purposes.
>Wake up
>see the news about upgrading fighters
Shouldn't have woken up
>>15489352
>he isn't leveling satsuki, bep and asashimo in case
>>15489347
Again, everyone but Akatsuki(she's stuck at 87 base ASW even at level 155) can reach 88 base ASW with just few more levels. Urakaze guns just help reach magical 100 ASW value faster.
When will we get a ship with a sundress?
>>15489352
I'd rather have more than 2 ships who can attack before subs do.
>>15489389
Just equip more ASW.
Ayanami is the only K2 which doesn't reach 100 with three T4 at 99. Everybody else and half of trophies do.
How is this legal again?
>>15489389
You have 23 ships that reach 100 ASW with 2xT3(!) sonar 1x depth charge at level 99.
>>15489402
I thought the point of the post was to show who can maintain yasen double attack. What's the point if I need more ASW just to preemptively attack?
>line ahead subs will be the norm now
I mentioned Harukaze in a post that's mostly a dig Konishi sameface and came back a couple hours later to see it touched off some retarded spergfest. Calm down, nerds.
>>15489448
sperglords epeens gotta epeen
>>15488872
>tfw it took 1040 S ranks to get my 3rd yuu
>>15489428
More like sub escorts with a regular boss as flagship will become a thing. Ships who only need 1 sonar will have a huge advantage so they can do torpedo cut-in or double attack.
>>15489419
So choose what you value more, just like you did in every other situation in this game.
It's already amazing that someone can have DA and opening asw at all.
>>15489407
Iwagawa top players start the month off with like 1000 carry-over pts so if they do some EOs and run 5-4 that much is easily possible
>>15489617
> It's already amazing that someone can have DA and opening asw at all.
Only 3 ships can do it without marriage though. We're not going to get better sonars from Allied ships on top of it, Japanese used more or less direct copies of German sonars which were the best in the world, by magnitudes.
>>15489692
Didn't really help since they were colossal failures at ASW among other things.
>>15489692
It seems you don't realize the fact that single Sonar won't be killing much, especially without ASW formation.
>>15489729
3 rounds of ASW per DD in double line is enough to take out anything that isn't SS Hime.
>>15489708
The sonars itself were great. That failure has more to do with complete lack of tactics and "improper" use, main purpose of sonar on IJN destroyers in pre-war planning was to get direction and speed of enemy surface vessels for torpedo strike at night for example. Reputation Japanese got for night battles was in part due to that.
>>15489729
I don't think they're going to add trollsub to boss nodes, that would be too much bullshit.
>>15489802
Well the sonar was about the same as other countries yes.
>>15489754
Gold Ka or red So have 30 armor, they'll be taking five damage a hit. Flagship So has 42 armor, you will only scratch her with single sonar.
>>15489802
I don't think so either. I just doubt devs would make a map where it's hard to achieve success without two opening asw attacks on ships that want double attack. It sounds awfully specific.
>>15489822
Not just about the same, they were German tier.
>>15489830
Preemptive ASW is just to reduce lolcrit chance from sub nodes. With line aboob and full ammo single T4 should be enough to sink red non-So in one hit and push gold non-So out of lolcrit range in damage, I think. Good enough.
>>15489858
>they were German tier
>>15489858
British sonar is best sonar.
Who is the next K2 lads?
>>15489942
A CL is long overdue, also any pasta ship.
>>15489858
And did you'll for the Germans make the best stuff meme?
>>15489942
Nagatsuki
>>15489858
Did you fall for the Germans make the best stuff meme?
>>15489942
Aoba or Kuma.
>>15489942
A Yadokari probably.
>>15489942
Maruyu
>>15489942
Michishio
>>15489942
Hopefully Yuugumo or Kagero class. Or a pasta ship.
>solo pola in pvp list
>go in for an easy win
>suddenly 3 subs
well it's been a while since that's happened
>>15490021
>low level Libe
>rest are heavy waifus
>take heavy fleet
>suddenly alone Libe
Well, could be worse.
>>15490021
>>15490044
Feels good to still be able to refresh PvP man.
>>15489942
A sub. Most of them have done enough to deserve it.
>>15490059
Please share your secret once you feel like it.
>>15490073
Not him but you can if you refresh immediately after entering night battle.
>>15489942
You'll have to ask Tanaka for that.
>>15489955
Well for example before sending Prinz to Bikini Atoll her sonar suite was completely removed and installed in some submarine(Flying Fish if I remember correctly) for testing. USN concluded to have no adequate equivalent in the aftermath and used the data to further their own sonar development, particularity influencing BQR series post-war. Surely you would not disagree with USN?
>>15489955
Is there a single nation which believes they don't? British and French maybe?
>166 more flagship MVPs to get Kawakaze to 75
>202 flagship MVPs to get Asashio to 70
How long do you think it'll take lads?
>>15490115
As much as it takes to change speech patterns.
>>15490115
I can average 40-50 a day if I'm dedicated enough.
>>15490109
I do.
>>15490115
Took me about a week since she was already at 25 and I used PVP to get her to 50 and then 4-3 for the rest and then 85 which took an additional 100 or so IIRC.
So the most cost effective way to upgrade Iwai Fighter Bomber is to start with Zero model 21 at max stars and convert it all the way to the last form, keeping the max stars?
>>15490109
For all the gimmicks she had, she was.also hard to operate and had too much wiring so yes. She was only evened out at being an okay ship.
>have to keep a million garbage planes to upgrade other planes
Who has equip slots for this?
Going back to 5-4 to fish for Uzuki is very boring. Also, wikia says I need Uzuki kai for the new quest while the other wiki says just base Uzuki, which is it?
>>15490220
Read the quest text directly from the game
>>15490216
Buy more slots or don't waste 5 pages on useless riceballs.
>>15490315
I dread for the day when Tanaka makes jelly donuts useful.
Should I scrap some damecons to make room? I have 16 personnel and 4 goddesses and with the emphasis on equipment in events for success I doubt I'll ever use them.
>>15490343
That is incredibly dumb.
