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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/
Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates
KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF
Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG
Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net
Fleet builder: http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html
Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat
Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818
Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png
Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me/
Drop and construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net/
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop/
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList
Voices, sprites, furniture preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev
KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/RyuuKitsune/ElectronicObserver
PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA
KanColle Movie trailer: https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E
News:
-The Android port has been implemented. The 250k lottery winners will be able to access it. In commemoration of this, Shiratsuyu has received a mobile phone seasonal sprite.
-100 new and returning Rainy Season lines have been implemented, along with new seasonal sprites for Hayashimo, Kiyoshimo, Akebono, Yuudachi Kai 2, Mizuho, Yuubari, Mogami, Chitose and Chiyoda, as well as returning sprites, and new and returning furniture.
-Shouhou's and Takanami's sprites on their Kai cards have been fixed.
-Quests have now been split into "Daily", "Weekly", "Monthly", "Once" and "Others" sections. There is also a section to view only active quests. You can still view all quests at a glance in the "All" section.
-Asashio will get her Kai 2 next maintenance.
-New DD from Mutsuki class will be added in the future.
>>15431722
>No Amatsukaze teruteru
You had one fucking job mutt
>>15431722
>No updated news
Shit thread.
>>15431764
The other one just got nuked. I think we're stuck now.
What kind of gifts would Kongou really like from other shipgirls? Other than tea and teitoku, of course.
>>15431764
What are we missing?
>>15431764
Could have made it yourself.
>>15431770
Maybe, clearing out the outdated news is missing.
>>15431770
Upcoming Android port maintenance tomorrow + more players, new Mutsukis incoming in summer.
>>15431770
See >>15431720
>>15431771
Nah.
>>15431785
Man, the old rigging seriously looked like shit.
>>15431785
>Myoukou being her gracious self
Fuck yes, even if the outfit isn't as good as the Kai2 version.
>>15431764
>>15431766
>>15431773
>>15431775
Want to try again? If people post in the new thread it will stay.
>>15431796
Why would you make a new thread if the ones complaining are too lazy to make it themselves?
The information is in this thread right now, more or less.
But sure, go start a thread war for no reason.
>>15431810
Fair point, was just curious.
>>15431766
How did that happen?
>>15431823
Duplicate threads, and this one came first. Pretty obvious.
Swallow it, swallow it all
Wait for me on the bed
>>15432012
Are those big sushi rolls actually a thing in Japan?
>>15432019
Yeah, it's a February thing that goes along the bean throwing event.
Honestly it's more the product of a manufacturers and sellers' marketing campaign than history.
>>15432019
>big sushi rolls
You do know that norimaki pieces of sushi are just rolls cut up into pieces, right?
>>15432043
My mind is blown
>>15432012
Why is she suddenly so lewd? This has never been the case, I can't contain it.
>>15432048
I wish Re was voiced. I want to hear her laughter and shrieks.
>>15432058
It's rai so just pretend the actress used her elphelt voice
Y.aoi is perfect for her, still
>>15431764
>>15431775
>No updated news
Wat?
Anyway the phrasing for both is off. I think
-At least one Mutsuki-class DD will be implemented this summer.
would be better.
Why don't people farm Ooyodo/Unryuu at 6-3?
>>15432115
I don't because I have them already.
So new thread or no?
>>15432115
Drop rate is too low.
>>15432148
No real point now.
>>15432166
Well, okay. For the last three threads everyone who tried making new updates missed the fact that the next update will be on the last week of June, just saying.
>>15432248
Let's come up with updated list around 1000+ replies.
>>15432306
I understand English is not your first language, but you're going to have to explain that statement.
you like Iowa ?
>>15432306
Somehow I think it'll be closer to 2000 replies, but sure. Maybe at page 10 or something.
>>15432332
Is there even anyone still here who has English as their first language?
>>15432335
She has a nice ass, so I definitely don't dislike her.
>>15432332
I'll interpret.
>Let us come up with an updated list of news items to put in the op of the new thread after we have made use of the current thread at around 1000+ replies.
>>15432345
Nipple.
Good map.
>>15432354
git gud
>>15432115
is it easier to get yodo from there than 1-6? I need that fleet command so I won't be stuck on kuso mode again.
>>15432354
Blame your luck
>>15432462
6-3 is basically unfarmable. You can either pray to god that you get Yodo at 1-6 or get her during an event.
八月リリース予定の次回「艦これ」一番くじは、ちょっとレトロなタイトルの「真夏の艦娘だらけの水泳大会！」です。公式設定の「大和」、そして「榛名改二」の水着modeフィギュアも投入予定です。ゲーム外でも連動した企画が準備中です。今夏の艦娘達もどうぞよろしくお願いいたします！
#艦これ
Am I reading this correctly? Yamato and Haruna K2 in swimsuits for Summer?
>>15432542
I was under the impression that it's just figurines that'll be released. Just merchandise.
>>15432554
Oh. That makes sense. I mean, why would Yoshinori get e seasonal... right?
>>15432560
Kamo got one so not all is lost.
Maybe both will happen.
>>15432560
They could always use Yamato's swimsuit from the anime.
>>15432481
what is the best way to get get from 1-6 then? the wiki only shows her dropping on the pre-final node, but kancolle-db shows much higher rates on the first two nodes.
>>15432567
I'd prefer this one and they just pretend the anime didn't happen.
>>15432580
She only drops from node B, from a single formation, at an astoundingly low 0.037% rate according to Poi.
Basically, forget about it.I now realize just how lucky I was to get my Yodo from 1-6.
>>15432481
Nah, it is possible to farm 6-3.
>>15432354
>2CL
That's your own fault, mate.
>>15432668
Something is missing here.
post comfy rooms
>>15432670
dicks?
>>15432676
yeah, they have no genitals, it's disturbing.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29077666
Eyy fubuki is back.
>>15432675
>>15432675
Nice room.
>>15432675
>>15432675
>>15432675
How do people not use the bar?
The new fit guns for BB link is shit. It gives a bunch of moonrunes and data that can't be understood fully without knowing japanese and it confuses more than helps.
>>15432753
Maybe you shouldn't have skipped school.
>>15432753
Go back to school, you have to be 18 to post on 4chan and reading graphs is a basic ability.
>>15432675
>>15432675
>>15432761
>>15432763
Maybe not everyone was born with the same capabilities at understanding maths and graphs than other people. I'm a humanities man, meaning that anything minimally complicated for me in this is difficult for me to understand. In contrast I probably know more about history, literature, music and art than most people.
>>15432738
>>15432764
objectively the best rooms
>>15432772
Got that degree in finding excuses, good for you.
>>15432779
Everyone has things they are good and bad at. Is that difficult for you to understand something like that?
>>15432784
That is something I very well do understand. This doesn't excuse someone for not being able to see the result right next to the ship class name and weapon type though.
All of them rooms are good rooms. I love all of you.you too, future posters
>>15432795
Of course I can DEDUCT what is the graph showing. What I can't get is the whole picture because all the graphs are in moonrunes and the numeral valules say nothing to me. There is no way for me to know with certainty how big is the it bonus or malus for a gun in a certain BB class or what the numbers in the graph actually mean. To make matters worse, the graph is an image which means I can't take the kanji and translate it with google translate to actually understand what the fuck is trying to tell me.
>>15432811
Here, this should be your field of expertise.
http://kanji.sljfaq.org/draw.html
>>15432811
>There is no way for me to know with certainty how big is the it bonus or malus for a gun in a certain BB class or what the numbers in the graph actually mean.
Sorry, but you either are retarded or don't even try to understand it. Please stop posting and go back to school in the former case.
>>15432816
>>15432819
Yeah, I was an idiot for expecting someone in this thread to actually be helpful.
>>15432827
I solved your problem and this is how you show gratefulness?
>To make matters worse, the graph is an image which means I can't take the kanji and translate it with google translate to actually understand what the fuck is trying to tell me.
>>15432827
Nah, it is alright. You still have your knowledge in history, literature, music and art.
>>15432811
>>15432772
>>15432827
I suck shit at math, barely passed my college calculus class with a borderline C/D and even I can understand it. Exactly what is so difficult for you to understand?
The point of origin is their base accuracy without any guns. Then the graph increases or decreases with every BB gun equipped in either 2 slots or 4 slots. You can see from the graph for instance that Kongous have a base acc of 45% and when they equip 2x 46cm guns it drops to 30%.
The reason people are being a dick to you is because you probably didn't even try to understand the graph. You're just asking to be babied.
>>15432840
>The point of origin is their base accuracy without any guns. Then the graph increases or decreases with every BB gun equipped in either 2 slots or 4 slots. You can see from the graph for instance that Kongous have a base acc of 45% and when they equip 2x 46cm guns it drops to 30%.
Well thank you, that's all I needed to know and what I was missing was the meaning of the numbers below the graph.
So Asashio/Arasahio kai 2 tomorrow ?
>>15432859
It's confirmed to be Asashio.
I still don't have her.
Fucking nameship.
I'm around rank 400 right now (around 1300 rank points)
how many more runs do i need for top 500
i still have 5-5 to go if i need to use it but i was told i shouldn't even go 5-5 if i'm not going for top 100 which i am not
>>15432859
They'll just update android related things tomorrow.
>>15432875
But its last week of the month and they didnt mention any about kai 2 on today tweets
how good are crane kai nis? worth it?
>>15432880
The first thing you gotta ask is the date, time traveler. Luckily 4chan is there to save you.
>>15432880
they don't mention until like 5 hours after it starts usually
>>15432883
nope
unremodeled fuckbuki is better
>>15432880
There's even no maintenance tomorrow.
They said it will be next week.
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/743994214367670272
>>15432880
>But its last week of the month
No, it isn't.
>>15432883
Depends on what else you haven't used blueprints on yet.
do you upgrade two 一式AP together or one at a time? currently one at +3 and 0
at what number do they become better than 九一式+9
>>15433045
read the OP
>>15433045
There's no reason to upgrade T1 until you have at least five max T91.
I actually went ahead and translated this graph to make anyone who's got problems in the future, like I had, have an easier time understanding it.
Full japanese text at the bottom is here: http://pastebin.com/UeCWuXXz for anyone that can make a better translation
English isn't my first language so I guess it can be improved.
So, what sort of fun bugs do you think will show up in the next event?
>>15433079
Good job anon.
>>15433087
Debuff not working for Kidou users.
>>15433053
Bullshit, if you have a shit ton of T91 fodder and some T1s then it's better to get the T1s to +6 first.
>>15433111
Difference between +6 T1 and max T91 is tiny (0.33 fp) and you WILL need multiple T91 at max to get your precious T1 above +6.
>if you have a shit ton
Very unlikely unless you like wasting resources.
>>15433117
360 tetsu/day is nothing anon
>>15433079
>more to less affected
most to least affected
>BB
The raw explicitly says slow BB (or SBB).
>41cm proto
proto 41cm
>>15433123
You need twenty four T91 to get two T1 to +6. That's ~five months of dailies. AP Shells are low priority after you get your initial batch.
>American guns are worst on Iowa, best on Hotels
wot
>>15433148
Don't tell me you thought Iowa owns Yamato on long distance, is equal in mid range and beats her in close range.
>>15433128
Yeah, it says slow BB but that's got more to do with the japanese clasification system. Here we've got 3 classifications.
>>15433148
>>15433154
It's a japanese game, we can't have an american BB being the best in the game.
>>15433157
>that's got more to do with the japanese clasification system. Here we've got 3 classifications.
wat
>>15433166
Don't be so jingoistic.
>>15433166
The best BB isn't japanese either.
>>15433179
But she's still Axis.
>>15433079
>transcribing データ as デ一夕
I've had it up to here.
>>15433186
oops, I actually noticed that error while imputing into google translate but forgot to corrent it in the transcription.
>>15433193
While you're at it, you should also use Japanese punctuations instead of English ones, among other things. This isn't hangul.
Anyway, corrected pic and pastebin http://pastebin.com/SiKteDvT
>>15432542
>>15432554
>>15432560
Actually, there is a possibility.
The tweet explains that there will be a conbini sweepstake with Yamato and Haruna K2 figs available. But then they go on to say "ゲーム外", which says they're planning something that accompany the sweepstakes outside the game.
However, this is a bit odd since they're already talking about things outside the game. It's possible that they made a typo, which should've said "ゲーム内" or inside the game.That said they haven't fixed this tweet after a couple of hours, so I'm not holding my breath.
>>15433214
I love their dots。
>>15433214
I made that pastebin for reference so anyone who's got a better understanding of japanese can make a better translation (I used google translate to get the meaning). It's not like it's neccesary for that using japanese punctuation, isn't it?
>>15433234
He’s simply nitpicking、 you know？
>>15433234
Actually, the punctuation was what triggered me the most, especially the commas. But that's probably just me nitpicking.
>>15433148
A friendly reminder; there was no mention of Iowa having any problems with her own guns in Kancolle Kai. Clearly, something went wrong in the transition from the Vita to the browser game.
>>15433253
Was there even fit/overweight mechanics in KCK?
>>15432867
You should go for 5-5.
And this month 500th ranking will end around 1900-2000pts.
>>15433242
>>15433245
I'm more interested in functionality, that's why I don't pay attention to those things and why I translated the pic instead of just posting a link in moonrunes expecting everyone to understand it in a glance.
If you are so bothered by it, just add the nip punctuation and create a new pastebin.
>>15433179
>Shitsmarck
>best anything
>>15433157
I don't get it, it explicitly says 高速戦艦>航空戦艦>低速戦艦 (fast battleship > aviation battleship > slow battleship) so there're 3 classifications there too.
And two more things:
-The image says that fast BBs are also the most affected by fit bonuses, not just overweight penalties (フイツト・過重量砲の補正により).
-Mentioning that fast BBs are affected the most twice is redundant. The image doesn't do that.
So something like:
>The extent of being affected by fit/overweight modifiers in order, is fast battleship > aviation battleship > slow battleship, with Yamato-class being affected the least. The accuracy changes are exemplified by the fan graphics shown above.
>>15433216
I wasn't even done yet, damn it.
Also
>畳
It's 量 but I'm too lazy to do any more minesweeping than that.
>>15433260
Wikiwiki says yes.
>>15433316
>extent...is
extents...are
>>15433337
>extents
???
>>15433316
Here is my proposal for fixing that paragraph
>In order of most to least affected by fit/overweight gun mechanic: fast battleship >aviation battleship > slow battleship, with Yamato class being affected the least. The difference is exemplified by the fan-shaped graphic for each class above.
>>15433344
Well other than
>gun mechanic
modifiers
>difference is
differences are
>graphic
graphics
I guess it should be fine as long as it's phrased well enough.
I've been running 4-3 for about a week now with most of my free time and whenever a non flagship CL pulls mvp with a single type 93 sonar I die inside. But when I run it without a sonar they always miss and I only A-rank. It doesn't happen too often but happening more than 5 times is already 5 times too many.
Really sucks that you can only run 1 DD as well. I still need to get Ooshio and Asashio to 65~75. Both are level 1 right now.
Ok, then, pic Mk. III and updated pastebin to calm the autism of some here. http://pastebin.com/ZfgkWisg
>>15433368
Why not just make a dummy pastebin account instead of making three pastebins.
>>15433373
Because I'm lazy and the pastebin won't have any use oonce the graph is corrected.
>>15433360
You're supposed to use 2 sonar and 1 depth charge on the flagship.
>>15433360
4-3 is shit, do 5-1.
>>15433389
I said when the NON flagship CL pulls MVP with a single type 93 sonar. My flagship is running 2 t4 sonar and a t3 depth charge
>>15433395
I would but I see no guide or even basic setups for it.
Is 5-5 worth it?
>>15433406
You just get sent south to a suub only node after a maelstrom with a 75% chance. No need of a guide for that
>>15433411
Unless you are desperate for medals it's not worth it.
>>15433414
Oh I glanced at a map thought it only went to A. I'll give it a shot right now.
>>15433423
To be correct, 2CA(V) give 100% A node, otherwise 75% south.
>>15433406
3+ ASW equipment on flag, 2 ASW equipment on everyone else. Equip 3+ radars if possible. Pretty basic.
Typically you send only DD/CL. It's slightly better if you're focusing on a particular CL than if you're focusing on a particular DD.
>>15433426
>>15433430
Wow alright thanks. It went really well. And can you moraleslave this node? I have no experience with red morale on sub nodes so I don't know if your DDs would still be accurate.
When will they make a linear map filled with transports only in every node?
>>15432560
>I mean, why would Yoshinori get e seasonal... right?
Just because you have shit taste doesn't mean you can forget about kamo. The Yamato figure is just faced on the swimsuit design from last year anyways and Haruna's swimsuit figure looks like shit.
>>15433441
I'd rather a sub node that has not-shit exp and no BB-filled off routes.
>>15433439
I've never tried fatigue grinding 5-1. Typically I only grind 5-1 switching plenty of DDs around.
>>15433441
>linear map
Never.
>>15433446
>faced
Based.
>>15433450
I'm glad I leveled a fuckton at AL/MI E5 first node, that was the shit and even had combined fleet.
>>15433451
>>linear map
>Never.
O RLY?
>over 2000 points for this month
Well shit, I guess it's GG for me.
>>15433459
Oh sorry.
>>linear map
>>filled with transports only in every node
>Never.
Better?
>>15433456
Next event I'm probably going to do that with a transport fleet map.
It's even in 2013.
>>15433406
Anon, thinking up setups for fighting subs isn't rocket science. You have branching rules, you know about whirlpool, you have enemy compositions. What more do you need?
Ah, there's one thing. Refresh when you get sent east. You can do it dozens of times in one day without any risk.
Whether to ignore morale or not, that depends on your fleet, try yourself. Before I got my fleet up to shape I used to rotate DDs so that thy were always above 30 morale. Now I just sortie until I'm satisfied.
>>15433411
Of course. Re is a wonderful girl and you shouldn't forget about her even for a single month.
>>15433471
Enjoy base 110 exp.
>>15433490
>Re is a wonderful girl and you shouldn't forget about her even for a single month.
Are you shitposting again, Re?
>>15433490
>forget about her
The memories of her torp being shoved in my ass are the reason I keep delaying clearing 5-5
>>15433503
Base 110 isn't so bad when leveling 10DDs or so.
>>15433471
Exp in events is shit ever since they added different exp per node.
>>15433544
Kind of balanced by farming/constant runs. I leveled a few CLs hunting daihatsu last event.
>>15433510
No, I'm cuteposting!
>>15433525
Anon, that's the charm! Don't you want to be repeatedly dominated by a small girl?
>>15433544
Its been shit since people abused combined fleet when they first introduced it.
Before then events where great xp, two of my CAs went from high 50s to 80+ just clearing fall 2013 E4.
>>15431722
For some reason I want to rub that Kancolle's belly.
>>15433652
>Kancolle's
>>15431774
>+ more players
New Android lottery?
>>15433253
Friendly reminder: the Combined Fleet mechanic, the only place where weight bonuses and penalties matter, is unavailable in Kancolle Kai except when intercepting Abyssal counterattacks.
>>15433459
>>15433477
Hope the last map of the very last event is linear. It'd be a nice touch.
>>15433686
No, its for those who didn't make it during the lottery.
when is the next maintenance lads?
>>15433926
Tonight.
>>15433926
read the thread first
>>15433928
>>15433930
So we're getting Asashio K2 tonight?
>>15433957
Looks like not. Probably next week.
>KanColle Spring Event 2016 Stage E-3 (Transport Operation) is based on a well-known fairy tale from the Middle East.
Fucking genius
>>15433981
>CLTs are henchmen
Perfect.
>>15433981
Explain
>>15434061
Ali Baba = Loli Baba
Forty Thieves = forty CLTs
Loli Baba is Kamikaze, the oldest destroyer who is a loli.
Boss of thieves is officially called Ancient Demon/Princess, also loli baba.
She behaves like CLT.
Map had a lot of CLTs and torps were the biggest problem.
The image is perfect.
>>15434111
It really isn't.
>>15434111
Sounds retarded.
>>15434111
The only redeemable part of it is 'Loli Baba" and that mostly comes from the fact that it's fun to say.
Heh, Loli Baba.
I would watch an anime with a Loli king of thieves set in Arabia.
KanColle touches everything. Look at this in depth discussion of comedic structure from a simple Loli ship. Kami bless this game.
>>15434216
Because Kamikaze is so good.
>>15434230
Kamikae was truly the best DD of spring and second best ship after Pola. Hers and Harukaze's art and personalities practically saved an otherwise unremarkable class
Do you need a jap phone to exchange pachinko points?
>>15434252
How will they possibly top them with the rest of the class?
>>15434270
I hope they find a way. The Akizuki class has been ramping up pretty steadily.
>>15434275
Yeah, so far all three ducks are great. No other class can match their stability.
>>15434277
>posting fanart is wrong
Kill yourself.
>>15434270
More old school schoolgirls, I seriously like the uniform. They blow Mutsukis out of the water.
>>15434298
Maybe because he's just telling them to kill themselves whilst still talking about the Ducks.
>>15434288
>They blow Mutsukis out of the water
I think the problem is that Yadokari isn't as good as Parsley, as much as it pains me recognizing it because I hate Parsley's oversexualization of his girls. Thankfully, Kamikaze class clothes don't help him on setting a lewd image of the girls and that made the Kamikaze girls cute and lovable instead of semen demons.
I hoping for kimono designs like pic related, I've always been a fan of them.
>>15434325
She really needs an art update.
>>15434325
Who?
>>15434325
Fuck yeah, Samidare-chan came to save the thread. Truly an angel
>>15434332
Read the filename.
>>15434325
Cute!
I hope all remaining starters will get Kai Ni this year.
>>15434340
But the filename says sami who.
>>15434343
It's says Samidare.
>>15434358
who? Is that the name of a ship?
>>15434358
Right, さみ誰。
Should I even care about wasting armor or torpedo stats when I modernize? I normally only care about firepower and AA because those are much harder to get.
>>15434380
No need. keep in mind that those early modernizations help in reaching remodel level faster and without repairs. Just keep some mod fodder ready if you want to use them right after Kai (Ni).
Second month in a row effortlessly beating 4-5 final with heavy fleet, I don't know why I listened to you retards saying to never take this route.
>>15434400
Second month in a row effortlessly beating 4-5 final with 3 CA fleet, I don't know why I listened to you retards saying to never take this route.
>>15434400
I've been doing 4-5 with CA fleet since it was introduced and only had problems twice, one of which was because of intentionally bad setup.
>>15434400
Because you can effortlessly do 4-5 with cheaper fleets. But if you like going nuts with BBs there's nothing wrong with it.
>>15434400
>>15434417
both work fine
i personally go 3CA because it's cheaper
I've been blessed this week.
>>15434531
>A-E-I-G three times
wew
So is Mark 7 the best guns to use in Yamato outright now?
>>15434671
>in
Yamato is pure you beast.
>>15434692
None of them are pure.
Boy it would be nice if someone would shoot at the boss for once. Not even one miss.
>>15434671
Yes.
>>15434711
>Shigure
>>15434671
Upgraded 51cm and proto 46cm are.
>>15434671
No, but it's the best gun for Bongo class.
And Bisko.
And pasta boats.
>>15434711
>Too bad.
>>15432675
>>15434722
>>15434736
Why would I want those when Yamato reaches firepower cap using Mark 7 and gets the same accuracy as with maxed 51cm/46cm?
>>15434751
Glorious hotel cannot be defiled with Allied filth.
>>15433368
But this graph >>15433368 says they actually lose accuracy when using Mark 7
>>15434751
Because Italia and Roma have low armor and they could really use that armor. If you cared about firepower cap, you would use upgraded 38cm instead for more accuracy.
>>15434762
>>15434736
Woops, wanted to quote you.
>>15434765
But this graph>>15433368 shows that the best guns for accuracy in Yamato are actually the Mk 7
>>15434711
That's what you get for thinking one wife is enough against the might of 6-4.
>>15434751
No one reaches yasen double attack cap though. If you take into account Hankou chuuha and taiha you obviously always want as much firepower as you can get, even if you can't reach the highest cap possible
>>15434771
With upgrades 41cm proto becomes better.
>>15434711
>Yodo
>Verny
>Akizuki
>Chikuma
>Italia
>Shigure
You deserve to lose for not bringing the girls that I would have used.
>>15434775
But Yamato usually doesn't participate in night battle in a combined fleet, where accuracy really matters.
>>15434779
Isn't best to reserve those guns for Fusous Kai Ni which benefit greatly from then both in firepower and fit bonus?
>>15434791
>Isn't best to reserve those guns for Fusous Kai Ni which benefit greatly from then both in firepower and fit bonus?
That's why Hotels get Bisko guns and 16 inch goes to support.
>>15434783
Already saw that. The guy uses the same source as the OP link except he never mentions from where he gets his "updates" which makes me believe he's just another attention whore fabricating then. What would you expect from someone who claims having made that graph without even mentioning the people who actually worked hard in obtaining the data?
>>15434798
That's all ok, but damm, wouldn't you need to literally have maxed bisko guns to justify the loss of firepower?
>>15434816
On Hotels? CA guns are enough to reach cap.
>>15434819
That's in doukousen and in full power. Things are different when you get hankousen and/or your hotel is chuuha, and that's where the lack of firepower hurts.
>>15434833
Yamato with two Bisko guns and T91 at +9 all.
(139 + 17 + 17 + 9 + 11 + 15) * 1.1 = 158 in doukousen, 156 in hankousen, 153 in chuuha, 137 in red T.
Good enough.
>>15434843
Woops, T91 has +8 and not +9. 136 in red T.
>>15434843
That's why I said this >>15434816. Few people have equipment at that level.
>>15434863
Untouched Bisko guns, +1 T91.
151 in chuuha, 130 in red T.
>>15434875
Untouched bisko guns + t91 in Yamato is 181 firepower. Chuuha would be 181*0.7 = 126.7 which in turn can be made even worse if hankousen (0.8) = 101.36. We can now add the post cap modifiers but the damage will be mediocre.
Did I mention the usual ammo penalty devs makes us face in every important boss node already?
>>15434896
We're talking about combined fleet.
>>15434896
Read the wiki. It's 186 in single fleet with no upgrades.
>>15434902
I don't need to red the Wiki, I'm seeing it now on my Yamato,
RJ's chest has a slope of m = 0.
