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News:
-Spring 2016 Event has started and will end on May 31. It is a 7 map event split into 3 parts: Initial, Expansion and Final Operations.
-Debuff nodes for E-6 confirmed to be L/A/G and node I on E-5.
-Unintended stats gains on new ships and Pola not being able to equip seaplane fighters have been fixed. Oyashio also has an increased drop rate.
-Land based planes not doing their correct damage and enemy raids not happening have been fixed.
-Players who reached E-6 before the emergency patch announcement will get an exclusive apology furniture and an early event reward for their troubles after the event.
-Kamikaze class DDs Kamikaze and Harukaze, Oyashio, Pola and Iowa are available in this event.
-New equipment such as the Catalina, interceptor fighters and Iowa's OS2U stock equipment can be earned this event.
-Land-based aircraft and their famed pilots have been added. They can be used with the new land-based aerial support mechanic which can also accommodate naval aircraft. Land-based air squadrons will be able to aid your fleet at up to 2 specific nodes.
-The first part consists of 4 maps. E3 rewards Kamikaze along with the ability to use the new aerial support mechanic.
-The second part consists of 1 map, which rewards Pola and is optional.
-The third part consists of 2 maps, which rewards Iowa for the final map.
-The max slot counts have been increased to 290/1260 for ships/equipment respectively.
-An Asashio class DD will get her Kai 2 this spring.
-Android lottery results are out, the 250k winners must wait until the end of the event to gain access.
-E-6 Zuiun Exploit is now online. Set-up can be found here: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28789122
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SINK THE BOAT
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>>15285690
>-Players who reached E-6 before the emergency patch announcement will get an exclusive apology furniture and an early event reward for their troubles after the event.
Yep, still not fixed. I rest my case.
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>>15285708
Rest the case in my pants.
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>>15285708
Furniture is only for those who cleared E6 early, right?
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>>15285718
I thought there were 2 furniture, one for everybody and the other for reaching E6.
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this is fucking bullshit. two times in a row ntrkaku gets blown up by ta at the first node. second time I went ahead anyway and she takes the big fat torpedo at the sub node. fuck everything.
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I have acquired an exclusive leak of the last boss for the summer event.
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>>15285716
/kcg/fag pls go.

>>15285718
The special furniture is for those who unlocked E6 before they first acknowledged the bugs (so the day before the 1.5 hour maintenance).
The plane which was meant to be an event reward for this summer is for those who unlocked E6 before said maintenance.
A wall scroll will be for everyone.
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Ranking rewards when?
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>>15285690
Where's the smug?
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>>15285718
To add on to >>15285732:
Said plane will be a land-based plane.

Also " early event reward" is way too vague.
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>>15285740
Last week of May.
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So what's the deal with the Kamikaze class? Are they gonna have another special gimmick or are they just cute grandmas?
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>>15285755
Expeditions.
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>>15285690
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28789122
Sent to L 5 times in a row with the same comp. Truly epic routing.
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>>15285764
Use south route.
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>>15285764
South is better.
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Where's my Unryuu?
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>>15285701
Why do you need that much reppuu tho?
LBAS, Opening air strike would kill much of Boss AA already.
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>>15285785
I'm not sure how much fighter power the boss will have left by the time aerial support comes (fighters are pretty hard to get shot down even in air denial), so I want to play it safe and guarantee AS. Unless someone can check for me.

But regardless I believe that Kaga/Akagi/cranes kai is best for me (Taihou is in my main fleet).
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>>15285755
Someone to play Mahjong with.
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>>15285771
>>15285769
Can I instakill the boss without Junyou and with 2 Wo kai + air battle node killing my planes? I'm not sure if Maya reduces lost plane count.
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>>15285799
My Kaga with Murata in big slot managed AS+ after 3/1/1.
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>>15285806
>2BB
>getting the easy comp
>still fail
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>>15285755
Expeditions and bench warmers.
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>>15285811
What. No Reppuu?

Not planning to go 3/1/1 for last dance though, maybe something like 2/1/1. I'm doing hard mode, by the way.
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>>15285806
Switch 1 BB for another CV
Don't go south
BB in second slot with AP shell
Sanshiki on all CA/Vs
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>>15285806
Nice chuuhas.
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>>15285804
2CV(B) are enough. Support finished her off.
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Thanks, Ayanami.
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>>15285816
>Switch 1 BB for another CV
>Don't go south
won't that still make you start at B? why battleship 2nd?
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>>15285745
Disappeared prematurely due to Tanaka.
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>>15285815
She had Iwamoto, Reppuu 601 and normal Reppuu on other slots. AS+ vs final form.
Yeah, I'm not sure how it will go with 2/1/1 to which I'll be switching.
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>>15285827
>Kamo in flagship spot
If you're using her at all slap a damecon on her and put her at the bottom. You'll be screwed at the boss in yasen if you don't get a strong first strike in.
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>>15285828
Flag protection for CA. Use Kaga as CV considering you don't have armored Crane.
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>>15285690
Naganami is super cute, I'd get her pregnant for sure
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>>15285832
I see, so I'll probably get AS+ with a 5th reppuu. Thanks and cheers.
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>>15285828
Sure you start at B, but the Ta nodes are much more reliable and cheap then 2 Wo Kai Flags AND 2 Ru Kai flags. With 2CV, Tas and the boss are a joke most of the time.
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>>15285838
so chokekai first? should I use wg42 or just green shell?
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>>15285806
Just endure and try again, I used pretty much the same fleet with minor troubles.
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>>15285850
You should be able to solve this on your own.
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Even -> Akizuki
Uneven -> More Yuu
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>>15285859
>Uneven
Odd, you mean.
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>>15285859
>Uneven
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>>15285860
Weird.
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>>15285859
Pairy.
Not pairy.
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>>15285821
Yes, "south route". Nice. Nice. Back to L I go.
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>>15285804
This gives AS+ on all nodes, these bombers alone will deal at least half her health with support hopefully finishing her off.
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>>15285844
Actually, I can get AS+ at last dance with:
Type2, Ro44 on Kamo
Zuiun 12 on Fusou
3 reppuu on CVL.
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>>15285870
Up your luck. This is my fleet when I clear E-6.
See the very important boss support?
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>>15285838
Do switching cranes to armored and/or back reset all modernization?
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>>15285870
Please tell me you used boss support.
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>>15285877
Yes.
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>>15285835
>If you're using her at all

Not him but are there even other viable options?
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>>15285859
Wait fuck,I've sent out Tats on 21 in the 2nd fleet already so it's Duck hunt for these few hours

>>15285860
>>15285861
>>15285864
>>15285867
Guys please it's 3 in the morning here
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>>15285859
Scrap any Yuus you already have. It's pointless to try to get any past 3 otherwise.
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>>15285880
Why the fuck would I not use boss support? It did the actual damage, while my fleet did jack shit. Now I have to relevel zuiun again and try the compass, where I have actually killed the boss twice, one of which was S rank.
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>>15285870
You're supposed to use bombers and aerial support.
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>>15285876
>AP Shell on shelling support, not even parallel cap for Hiei
>weak CVL with blues for shelling
>Radars for aerial support
>BB for south route
What the fuck were you doing
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Is it possible to get by E-6 and E-7 with unarmored kai2 cranes?
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>>15285893
see >>15285892.
When I mean same comp as OP, I mean even the same planes as the guy's using in each slot.
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>>15285896
Yes. with 2CV in E-6 and Suijo route in E-7.
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I can't farm Hayasui because I cleared that map on Hard, Yuu I tried farming for 3 days before I saw the little note saying it's nigh impossible to get any the more you have, everything else I have taken care of.

So now I must ask, is there any value in Mizuho and Taigei, or do I fight the last battle that is getting Akizuki?
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>>15285902
>Suijo
Suijou.
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>>15285889
>scrap Yuus
Scrap yourself.
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>>15285894
What the fuck were YOU doing? Going for parallel cap with Kongous is retarded. CVL are enough for shelling. What else do you propose on DDs? Not using BB is retarded.
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>>15285844
So, if I can get AS+ with my surface fleet, no need to slap Reppuu in support, right?
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>>15285896

Don't use armored CV in E6. See those anon that keep bitching about getting sent off course? It is because they don't know better and keep using armored CV.
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>>15285910
Don't blame me, blame Tanaka and his stupid rules.
Why would you keep more than 2 Yuus though?
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>>15285917
Armored Cranes are perfectly fine on south route.

>>15285916
Small slots will be wiped by AA if you use bombers there.
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>>15285922
South route is fucking shit, deal with it.
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>>15285873
I was referring to the fighter power of my boss support fleet, and taking into account the fact that chevrons aren't taken into account for aerial support.

I'm planning to go kidou so AS+ in opening aerial phase is guaranteed anyway. What I'm concerned with now is geting AS or AS+ for aerial support.
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>>15285926
I cleared the map in nine sorties and easy S rank on last dance using south, deal with it.
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>>15285927
>marrying a bear
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>>15285927

Never ever ;_;
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>>15285926
I cleared it in 9 sorties, didn't even need route support, only used FCF once.
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>>15285911
Your route support becomes near worthless if you don't have the firepower. Your Hiyou is only at 136FP when most CV can get to head-on cap easily with 2-3 reds. Equipment for DDs does nothing for aerial support so you're wasting your good radars. Using BB ditches guaranteed routing which is the only reason to go south in the first place
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>>15285946
Of course you don't need route support in E6. The route is fucking easy.
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>>15285933
Bears are some of the best girls in this game.
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>>15285876
>lower firepower DDs in shelling support
>higher firepower DDs in aerial support where firepower is irrelevant
>AP shells on support fleet BBs
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>>15285959
I wonder how she feels about being irrelevant in the age of installation bosses.
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>>15285948
>Your
Anon, easy. I wouldn't use such Hiyou. I always go for doukousen cap with carriers in shelling support.
Hiyou is the only ship with too low firepower. Hiei could use a bit more but she's mostly fine. Definitely not worthless.

>Using BB ditches guaranteed routing which is the only reason to go south in the first place
You're fucking stupid.
The only thing fBB in escort changes is the chance to go to subs which doesn't really matter compared to HUGE benefit fBB gives. The route to boss is still guaranteed, you won't be directed to L.
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>>15285968
Somebody needed to carry the daihatsus this event. She wasn't useless. Besides, you'll see how the need for her will reveal itself again in the next event.
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>>15285968
Give her two WG42 + midget sub or something.
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>>15285972
Voluntarily going to sub node with fuel penalty is fucking retarded. You should always go for hankou cap when possible for support. You won't do jack shit half of the time if you get hankou (or red T). If you use support to only clear DDs you might as well use CAs for support. BB is also weaker against installation than CAV with WG3shiki making that decision even more stupid
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Is it safe to start the event yet?
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>>15285999
No, better wait 5 days.
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>>15285999
Yes.
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>>15285977
>WGs without a main gun
It can only end in disaster.
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>>15285991
It's a chance to go to sub node you fucking retard.
It isn't "Voluntarily going to sub node".

>You should always go for hankou cap when possible for support.
And it isn't realistically possible with Kongous.

>You won't do jack shit half of the time if you get hankou (or red T).
Yeah, because every single enemy on the route has 120 armor.
Ease up with your phrases such as "you won't do shit". They're fucking wrong and you only make yourself look like a retard.

>If you use support to only clear DDs you might as well use CAs for support.
This is such a fucking shitty fallacy I'm not even going to reply seriously.

>BB is also weaker against installation than CAV with WG3shiki making that decision even more stupid
You can only take two CAV you goddamn fucking retard. BB takes the remaining spot.

Never post again.
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>>15285929
OK, bro. Please clarify me the thing about the aerial support.
It is calculated like opening airstrike but without proficiency bonus, right? or It is just AA in aerial support that doesn't has bonus?
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>>15285999
Nah E7 probably still has some tricks to figure out. Better wait.
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>>15286010
Don't scare me like that, anon.
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>>15286009
>It is calculated like opening airstrike but without proficiency bonus, right?
This one.

Also opening air strike has +25 damage. Aerial support has like +3.
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>>15286010
Wish they had her let her hair down in K2.
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>>15286009
And also, do I have to take reduced AA (after we soften them with many fighter from LBAS, main fleet air strike) in account?
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>>15286014
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>>15286010
kasumin please stop shouting
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>>15286036
Yes. The only problem is that I don't know how much AA is reduced so I'm sticking with my plan until I know.
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>>15286034
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>>15286043
Fucking destroyers.
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>>15286008
>It isn't "Voluntarily going to sub node".
Do you equip your girls assuming you always get doukou/green T as well? Making a choice that reduces your chances is plain stupid. Sure you might not always go off-route but what about the case where you lost because you went off route?

>And it isn't realistically possible with Kongous.
3 guns and 1 radar gets you pretty far. Even if you don't get to 100% hankou cap it's still better to get as close as possible. Especially better than using AP shell instead of third gun just because you can't reach the cap. I bet you use 35.6cm and 38kai for 5-5 as well on Kongou instead of going for firepower

>They're fucking wrong and you only make yourself look like a retard.
I keep saying this because I see people complaining that their support don't do shit and when I see their setup it's not properly. I see people who cry the last map is too hard even though they've played since 2013 while they still lack the understanding of basic mechanics

>>15286008
>This is such a fucking shitty fallacy I'm not even going to reply seriously.
If your support is a complete waste you might as well waste less resources

>You can only take two CAV you goddamn fucking retard. BB takes the remaining spot.
That's my bad but still taking 3rd DD is better because DDs can actually take out the artillery imps unlike BB that does jack shit to it. You won't take out the other installations with a BB during daytime and DDs can still lash out better damage against the boss.

>Never post again.
Kek. How about you go and read the wiki about how the game works before telling others what to do
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>>15286055
It's quite tricky in this part. KC3 give only 15 or 24 AA plane. Maybe API error.
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>>15286081
>always
Again, stop being fucking retarded.
In this game you're supposed to tip chances in your favor and finding right balance is important. Going for extremes is often stupid thing to do.

I have no intention of looking at the rest of your post because you already made it clear you have serious anger issues and mental limitations.
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Why couldn't she have gone to someone who wants her?
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>>15286055
Oh, one last thing, does CV own FP needed in the support airstrike calculation? I don't see the equation specify about this (I'm just lazy to fill my crane FP tho).
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>>15286098
Why do you not want her? She's cute.
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Where and who should I farm now that I cleared everything on hard?
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>>15286081
Actually if you're sortieing to a combined fleet map like E6 you can take into account the x1.1 formation modifier when calculating support fleet damage, so the firepower requirements to reach hankousen cap are actually reachable.

AP shell is useless for support fleet setup, though, yeah. I'd rather stick one more T32 radar.
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>>15286108
I have far too many destroyers and just wanted to sink the boss. She dropped from an A rank.
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>>15286114
Well, T1 AP gives +9fp and +2acc, good if you run out of Bisko guns.
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>>15286118
So you're scrapping her due to lack of space?
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>>15285778
What difficulty/fleet?
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>>15286121
Nah, I can't bring myself to do that. I'll just have to buy more slots if I run into problems.
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I can only hope that my luck continues to hold out.
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>>15286130
Good ttk. At least you appreciate what got handed to you even if you weren't looking for her.
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>>15286097
First you displayed your inability to understand the game. Then when pointed out you wrote like an angry kid about how in your happy head you always assume you roll the best possible outcome. I tried to explain why I think it's better to prepare for the worst instead of throwing the towel every time you roll hankou, aaand you go and block your ears and project anger and mental limitations. Thanks for the laugh. Next time I see an idiot complaining I'll just assume it's you, ignore the post, laugh and continue my day
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>>15286088
I could try calculating for myself once I get there. I'm one kill away from last dance, just waiting for bauxite to replenish now.

What I do know is that her torpedo bombers have AA but not her dive bombers. This may help a bit in estimating the fighter power remaining.
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why am I even still trying? 4 a ranks in a row now and the last 3 s ranks were no drops and fubuki.
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Have you saved everyone yet, /jp/?

Not pictured: lvl 56 Sakawa
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>>15286143
Still searching for Teruduck, /jp/ give me strength.
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>>15286102
If you mean firepower, no. It's not used for aerial support. You can go with a crane kai who's freshly farmed for her 12cm rocket launcher if you so wish.
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You two fuckers argue about retarded shit every single thread, get trips so I would filter you both.
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>>15286137
You really can't read, do you? I'll make sure to post a lot, hoping you choke laughing.
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>>15286119
I wish I can farm Iowa guns so I can feasibly go 3 guns 1 radar for shelling support. Doing it with 46cms doesn't give enough accuracy to reassure me.
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>2nd Teru drop at the 2nd run

Please,I want the original for once
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>>15286098
Like yours truly. ;_;

Speaking of which, has anyone got dupe Harukaze?
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Is it just me or did Paramushir just crap out?
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Can they do it? That fucking Ancient DD dodged all the shots.
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>>15286143
Arashi and Akizuki refuse to appear. I got 2 Maruyu, 3 Teruzuki, 4 Amatsukaze, 3 Tanikaze, 2 Izokaze, 2 Urakaze, 2 Harusame, and 1 Hamakaze.

Why RNG-sama?
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>>15286187
Should be doable.
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>>15286187
'Yodo will not disappoint.
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>>15286191
>3 Teruzuki
Holy duckyguns batman!
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>>15286187
MEGANE
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For E6 last dance should i go for as+ or load up more bombers?
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>>15286187
Do you have a glasses fetish or something?
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>>15286187
Ooyodo chokes.
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Which ship DON'T you want to get a Kai Ni? Not because you hate her though, just because you like her the way she is.
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>>15286191
Which difficulty if I may ask?
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>>15286192
>>15286197
>>15286201
I love Ooyodo! Very good S rank, 1 damecon used, only 1 last dance run.
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>>15286212
Kaga.
Shibafu's current style is utter shit.
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>>15286212
Kawakaze.
Oh, shit.
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>>15286070
>Fucking destroyers
Yes, every day.
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>>15286138
Please post here when you've done that. But from my KC3 API reading, it's seem that hime's bomber so shit and got rekt by AACI everytime.
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>>15286215
Easy

>>15286199
I know I should be happy, but damn, over 200 sorties and about 250 buckets used up. I don't mind the bucket use, I'd used them all if I meant I got them all, I just want my two cuties ;_;
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>>15285884
You have 2 options for left side: fast fleet (CL flag + 3 DD + fast BB + CAV) or Kamo fleet (CA/CL + 2 DD + any BB(V) + CAV + Kamo). So far I've chipped the gauge once with each type of fleet.
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>>15286212
Any Shibafu ship. He makes everything worse with his Kai 2s.
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>>15286212
Anyone with a shit artist, especially the potatoboats and the mutsukis.
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>>15285916
I'm pretty sure it's calculated separately.
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Oh, I forgot about the 3DD route.

Kamo is actually useful now with seaplane buff so I'll stick with her.

Fucking node C still rapes me hard anyway.
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>>15286217
Grats. Going to go last dance soon, wish me luck.
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>>15286243
meant to quote
>>15286231
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>>15286239
Yeah. But the problem is what's the actual FP when you calculate the support.
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What's the heaviest possible composition I can bring on E-2? Do slow BBs work?
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>>15286212
Yura
I'm thankful everyday it was abukuma instead
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>>15286212
Any Yuugumo DD, but I have confidence in Fujikawa.
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>>15286243
>>15286249
Kamo isn't really viable unless you slap a damecon on her though. You're just asking for trouble if you put her in flagship spot.

I guess that's where 3 DD fleet comes into play.
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So I somehow managed to get 3 Mexican subs this event. What do I do with the extra two? Kai them for Seiran and send them back over the border?
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>>15286274
Kamo gives me 50~75 FP without wasting slots on useful ships, though.

And it's not like a DD will fare better against the Ru-class anyway...
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>>15286248
Pray the land base and support does significant damage.
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>>15286257
A CL, a FBB, 2 CA/Vs and 2 DDs.
You can replace one of the CAVs with a CVL.
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Oh, fuck. I didn't think I was that low on bauxite.

Oh well, 5 minutes until the expedition returns.

>>15286223
Yeah, I've completely wiped her bombers just about every time I see her. Should help in calculating things.

>>15286256
Just calculate (or at least estimate) the number of fighters CV hime has left right after the aerial phase.
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>>15286295
Lv 86 Akitsushima has 60 evasion. DDs easily go over 80.
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Farming Shioi, keep getting Yuu instead.

How many WG should I keep? How many is the most you could in theory be equipping?
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>>15286309
48
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>>15286309
Every single one you lucky pice of shit
12. 2 per DD in a hypothetical 6-DD fleet.
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For support shelling, do you load the BBs up with fit guns and count on the bonuses from those to boost accuracy, or sacrifice firepower and fill them with radars?
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>>15286303
It's 8(Max 15)-14(Max24) fighters
I don't even know what happens to her absurd slots.
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>>15286318
46cm until they hit cap, maybe give them 16inch.
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>>15286318
No fit gun bonus/penalty.
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>>15286294
Pretty much.

>>15286307
Good point.
Hell, my Yukikaze has 104 evasion, it's her time to shine.
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>>15286309
I'm going to farm over 40 Yuus for her torp when she becomes Ro so I can give it to all my subs, and I'm certainly going to need way less than 40 WG42s.
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>>15286212
Hagikaze and Arashi.

Maikaze and especially Hatsukaze could use one though.
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>>15286309
>How many is the most you could in theory be equipping?
Forty-five.
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>>15286341
Just for curiosity sake, how many Yuus do you currently have in your ship list?
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>>15286319
Since her fighter has 12 AA:
It's 33(Max 46)-44(Max 58) fighter power

So I can pretty much guarantee AS+ with 174 fighter power in my aerial support fleet.

Am I reading this right?

>>15286327
16 inch is much better. It's just 2 firepower less than a 46cm while also being half a T32 radar.
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>>15286359
0. You farm 1, level her to 50 via Orel and then scrap and farm more.
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>>15286359
Unfortunately, I've never managed to get any Yuus beyond the winter 2015 event reward. But fuck it, I'll get there one day.
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What music do you listen to while sparkling?
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>>15286369
>music
I just watch anime
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>>15286364
>via Orel
You mean 5-3.
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>>15286319
>>15286361
I don't get your calcs, could you please explain?
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>>15286364
>50
55, m8.
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>>15286341
I've gotten 12 so far so that's 11 torpedoes. I guess it would be nice to have enough torpedoes for at least all the remodeled subs and their dupes but I doubt I'll be that lucky. I'd rather trade some of those torpedoes for Seiran though

>>15286364
>>15286376
Much faster to just run 5-4
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>>15286376
No, you want the ressources from Orel.
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>>15286222
Don't sexualize your destroyers.
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Guys did the servers die just now?
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>>15286390
No
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>>15286390
Yes
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>>15286383
You made a typo there. 12 Yuus are 12 torpedoes.
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>>15286380
Fighter power that a slot provides is calculated by ⌊AA of plane * √ (number of planes in slot)⌋, where ⌊⌋ is the floor function. Once all her bombers get shot down, her only source of fighter power will be from her fighters.

For the number of fighters left, I just pulled the numbers from >>15286319, square rooted them, multiplied by 12, then floored the result.
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>>15286364
I expected as much. But I don't want to scrap my original Yuu so an ample supply of WGs is forever beyond me.
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>>15286402
No, 12 Ros are.
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>>15286380
I just report the number of fighter that appear on KC3 display. It should be the plane counts.
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>>15286408
Yes. Yuus are Ros.
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http://exhentai.org/g/926814/a0b9085b1e/
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>>15286427
But only 11 of the 12 become Ros if you have even somewhat decent taste
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>>15286427
Every Ro is a Yuu, but not every Yuu is a Ro.
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>>15286429
>Yuu
>taste
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>>15286429
Maybe if it's only decent. My taste is very good though so all my Yuus will become Ros without fail.
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>>15286435
You are technically right. However every Yuu that is shown some love and not stuck at low level surely becomes Ro.
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>>15286403
>>15286411
I mean, I know how air power works but I'm confused about "8(Max 15)-14(Max24)" part. What is 8, what is max, what is 15, why is there another part with 14 and 24. It looks like some range but I'm not sure what is it representing.
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>it's a "my taste > your taste" episode
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>>15286315
>>15286355
It's actually 80.
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>>15286450
I have no idea either. Like I said, I just pulled the numbers from that post.
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>>15286455
No, it is actually amountofshipgirlsyouhave*theirequipmentslots.
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>>15286453
What did you expect from nazifags?
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Is two WG42s and two tanks enough for 6-4 kamo route?
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>>15286450
Oh,. Sorry for your confusion. They were the number of enemy's green plane in boss node from my two runs on last dance.
At the first time, plane countd was 15 and my fleet shot them down to 8 (which should be the final number after LBAS, opening air strike, and AACI).
And the second time, the plane count was 24 and they were shot down to 14.

However,>>15286361
Calculated FP here seems to contrast with required FP for AS in wiki.
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>>15286489
Yes.
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>>15286453
At least it's not newfag complaints or two autists arguing about ideal setups with walls of texts and insults.
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>>15286496
Yeah, instead we have two autists arguing whether certain german slut should be remodeled once or twice.
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>>15286507
Every ship should be remodeled, this is obvious, it's natural. The only autists are the ones who try to pretend they're completely different characters.
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>>15286492
>Calculated FP here seems to contrast with required FP for AS in wiki.
The explanation is simple. A large number of fighters were shot down by the land based aerial support. The wiki's numbers don't take land based aerial support into account.

But now that I know what it means, looks like all I'll need for fighter power are 4 Reppuu and 1 Iwai fighter-bomber. Thanks.
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>>15286507
I think it is hilarious how you are sperging out after 3 posts in the "taste" part of the Yuu discussion, but don't do anything at all during the other situations listed.
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>>15286445
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Everyone has shit taste.
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>>15286528
Of course. Why else would we be on 4chan?
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How much better/worse is Army dog/2BB/3DD for E-5? 4DD/2CAV just won't stop choking on dicks at the preboss, despite route support. I don't think I'll be doing E-6 on hard anymore.
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Just shot down all Re's bombers in the pre-boss node of 5-5. I didn't even realize that was possible. Getting that kind of roll for planes shot down is like winning the lottery but that made me realize how interesting it would be if you could fly land based fighter squadrons in 5-5. You should be able to disable almost all enemy planes on that map. 5-5 would become a complete joke which in contrast would probably mean even more enemy power creep in future maps. I'm already imagining maps where pre-boss nodes have AS (not AS+) requirements not in the hundreds but in thousands. Scary
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>>15286445
>However every Yuu that is given some drugs and unrelented penis surely becomes Ro
FTFY, comfort women aren't something you should strive for, you kuso.
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It's Miyuki time!
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>>15286533
>doing E5 before E6
No mate, you do E6 for the planes first, then you start on E5.

Also post fleets (including support) and land base squadrons.
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>>15286538
>Ro
>woman
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>>15286527
This is wrong and I'd dare to say you might be a bad person.

>>15286538
You are trash that shouldn't exist.
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>>15286544
Who?
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Does air proficiency on dive bombers affect aerial support? I can only seem to hit the boss for around 500-600 each time.
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>>15286548
Ro is over 70 years old, so that makes her an old hag. The same goes for all other kanmusu.
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>>15285690
Is it still a pain in the ass to download and play this game?
Is it even a good game?
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>>15286564
CV aerial support right? No it does not.
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>>15286519
Thanks you too, now I get why the KC3 API doesn't show the same plane count in each combat. It's because this viewer didn't read what happened in LBAS phase, so the number I see were likely to be what were left from LBAS phase. But does this means I actually needs 174+ FP to get AS+?

Anyway, LBAS is god.
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>>15286390
all the time
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>>15286568
>download
Go back to your 2hu, baiter.
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>>15286568
You can do better.
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>>15286568
>download
Downloading resources was never a pain in the ass. I think you meant 'registering'.
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>>15286568
No.
No.
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>>15286547
Exped 1 is route and 3 is boss support. First air base is sent to the boss both times and the second for air defence. Those are the best radars I have, for support, by the way.
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>>15286573
>But does this means I actually needs 174+ FP to get AS+?
Yeah, but I'd advise you to get a bit of buffer just in case. I guess 3 greens would be fine either way.
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>>15286580
>>15286581
>>15286584
I just saw you needed VPN and some other bullshit and nope'd out back when the game first came out
Do you still need to jump through a dozen loops to play it?
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>>15286453
>it's a tasting episode
yummy
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>>15286603
Yes, it takes like five minutes.
You'll spend more reading wiki trying to figure out daily quests.
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>>15286608
What do you want to taste, Kashima-san?
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>>15286598
But three grees give far less than 174 considering support doesn't read chevrons.
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>>15286603
>Do you still need to jump through a dozen loops to play it?
Yeah, you still have to do it. Better just leave now and never come back.
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>>15286608
Katori>Kashima
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>>15286595
>shelling support for route
>aerial support for boss
>bothering with useless air defence
>4 (four) greens on both land base squadrons
:^)

Gave me a laugh, thanks.
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>>15286538
Jesus mang, all she did was do what you told her to do, ie spend all her time at Orel. Anyone from the west would get a tan if they spent 24 hours a day under the hot Okinawa sun.
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>>15286603
Not anymore. Cookie method has been around since like 2014.
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>>15286624

Alright, what do I do about The 4 greens in airbase?
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>>15286618
Oh, I thought you meant the sortieing fleet there. Pretty sure it'll be less than 174 after the aerial phase anyway so like I said 4 Reppuu 1 Iwai fighter bomber should be enough.
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>>15286639
Take them off
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