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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.
What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
>>14915742
>１７才
too old
Is Lose going too far with Reina. Listen to her QA, she mispronounces words like a kid, uses kid words like お手手 and has to take naps like a kid.
>>14915816
They're not going too far enough.
>>14915841
How can they go further? Reina being human and not a super advanced robot in a world with vague level of technology?
I repeat: kimoi.
All other ads are gone though. I dunno why they were removed pre-release.
>>14915816
Sounds great
>>14915901
Ads? You mean on buildings? The ones an Akiba Sofmap 1 and Trader 2 are still there. And there are Maitetsu stands in various shops too.
For the biggest one on Sofmap AM, Lose probably only had money for that long. Previously it was Shokomeza ad, why was that removed prerelease?
>>14915904
I thought I saw some ads on the stairwell leading to 秋葉原ザウルス but those were gone too.
Just seems like weird times for ad placements then removals, for large ones at least. Maybe they are more interested in advertising pre-orders rather than releases.
>>14915909
>Maybe they are more interested in advertising pre-orders rather than releases.
Likely, considering it's known eroge makes most sales with preorders after all.
>>14915742
I look forward to that in the OP
>>14915960
The video at the end of the trial that showed for exampleRinne and Setsuna on some snow covered-place with some broken machine around them picqued my interest more.
>>14915234
I like the writing and the pacing. Seems just right, introducing the mysteries one by one.
>>14915901
Just went there a while ago. I thought it was going to be packed.
>>14915816
No, it's cool. Isn't she around the same age as 86?
>>14915981
>Just went there a while ago.
When I went yesterday there was around 10 other people.
>>14912685
>Did you make a dlsite account? I was having the same error, then I made an account and it went through no problem..
Holy shit, it actually worked. I have no idea why the site offers purchasing without registering, but then just gives a generic "card not accepted" error if trying to do just that. Now even my Visa Electron went through. Big cheers anon.
>>14915742
Looks like 3D-model. If the game have 3D that's cool or if just 2D-renders from the 3D original that's garbage.
>>14916073
>Looks like 3D-model.
I'm not seeing it.
>>14915981
>I like the writing and the pacing
Agreed. Not one boring moment so far, which is extremely rare for me. I already know that I will buy this.
>>14916029
Glad to hear it worked. It looks like dlsite only has limits on the cards that can be used if you're using a non-Japanese card and are unregistered, but these are removed once you have an account.
>>14915816
Why is there so much discussion about a game that doesn't even have a trial. And there have been plenty of games with loli that had girls this young.
>>14916210
Trial will come soon though.
>>14916210
>Why is there so much discussion about a game that doesn't even have a trial.
Because people are hyped for it.
>>14916228
At least make posts that make sense.
Does almost everybody here play plotgee
I.mean I kinda just got into vn for cute girls though I have played some plotges, also silveria vandetta brought out my inner chuuni, ive been thinking of trying muramase but heard its hard. Is it harder than silveria vandetta?
Ive tried hanachirasu and some parts takes some time to read but not too difficult, mainly the history and war stuff
>>14916247
I dream of a world where Japanese VNs can be discussed on English forums without every other post being about language difficulty and learning Japanese
>>14913425
>>14914440
Fair enough
>>14913798
>>14914123
>>14914483
not self inserting as ikemen
>>14916307
I don't care about learning jap, I can understand most stuff.
I just wanna know if I can read it without looking up definitions often. Or if its written in an odd way or has old words and stuff.
Like if I asked if to kill a mocking bird is hard to read im not trying to start an english discussion
>>14916318
Sounds like you're still a learner then.
>>14916321
I stopped anki and stuff ages ago I just read what I find interesting now.
However have trouble reading some stuff now and again.
But that aside im just asking if its hard to read.
>>14915742
Completely missed the fact that there's ISLAND trial released. I thought OP was promo material.
>>14916344
>>14916318
>I just wanna know if I can read it without looking up definitions often.
tl;dr your Japanese isn't good (enough) so instead of posting about VNs you talk about your Japanese level and the Japanese level of VNs instead of actually talking about VNs. Much like a fuckton of other people. Therefore, I dream of a world...
>>14916369
My post opened up with talking about plotge, girls then moved on to asking about muramasas difficulty.
I dont really mind hard japanese unless if it affects the overall experience, that is if I end up reading to slow. So I guess I didnt realy expect backlash or anything just asking.
Still might as well try it
>>14916409
Not in a really meaningful sense... not going to be anal about that of course, not every post has to be substantial.
> So I guess I didnt realy expect backlash
Posts about language difficulty are never welcome here.
>>14841492
Not too fond of Futsuu no Fantasy as of yet. The meta jokes (like pic related, people repeating lines, demons having over-complicated yet ineffectual plots, the unfairness of heroes having infinite respawns, etc) would be funny if I hadn't seen them parodied in countless webcomics already. So far there is little fresh material, at most I can think of is how it's shows in detail the maou's mindset when he does stuff like flip his mantle dramatically which is fresh to read. What's really killing even that for me though is that the MC is pretty much a stereotypical teenage *Japanese* boy, not very Maou-esque really which really makes it hard to get into the story and jokes. Someone said "Futsuu no Fantasy's plot is so predictable and rote from the get-go that it's only hope is to have funny gags carry the game". As of yet, this is not the case, which is leading me to rely on lust for the red-head to carry me which is never a good thing for a non-nukige as far as I'm concerned. Well, that and a desire to see the scene where Jei reveals himself to be the maou to the heros, I bet that'll be interesting.
>>14917022
Someone said it does get better later on, but I couldn't last that long. And that's coming from a DQ fan.
>>14917271
>but I couldn't last that long
I know how you feel. I'm seriously torn here, is it that I don't have the patience to read vns or is it just that a ton of vns are really really boring. I find myself dropping 90% of vns I read.
>>14917022
>>14917271
Pre-reveal is good, post-reveal is pretty bland
>>14917403
>Pre-reveal is good
I'm readin' it now and good is not how I would describe it
>>14917421
What part are you on?
>>14917431
Just hit Chapter 6
>>14917444
Might wanna drop if it's already boring, I seem to remember they got to the demon castle at around 20+
Come to think of it, aren'tOretsubaandSubahibipretty much the same game?
>>14917874
One has decent writing and annoying as fuck characters and the other has mediocre writing with pretty decent characters, so no.
>>14917886
But which is which?!
>>14917886
Shut up Habluka holy fuck
>>14917895
Oretsuba is the later, of course.
Sayonara o Oshiete is legitimately making me anxious. I can see the madness of the main character in myself so witnessing... this game is putting me on edge. The red tint is really setting the mood well, too. This is a classic for a reason, no doubt.
>>14918589
>The red tint is really setting the mood well, too.
ORANGE tint, it's the sunset, you know.
>>14918607
I'm colourblind, sorry.
>>14917022
>Well, that and a desire to see the scene where Jei reveals himself to be the maou to the heros, I bet that'll be interesting.
Don't get your hopes up, its not that good either.
>>14917403
I liked post-reveal more. At least it had some genuine plot and genuine character interactions.
Wait, why don't Kouya or Island have any ero?
>>14919425
Because they are all-ages games?
I like my women like I like my Xbox.HUGE
>>14919425
Island cast has big name VAs for the heroines.
Hey what do you think about this VN?
They say they have 49 girls. From the synopsis it says some guys steal protag girl by hypnosis, I hope theres no ntr in this vn
>>14920340
My kusoge sense is tingling
>>14920340
I remember playing it and enjoying a couple of the scenes and while I don't remember the large major of the main plot, it doesn't play out like that at all.
Is he right?
>>14920407
Romeo doesn't exactly shit gold every time
>>14920417
How dare you. Every word written by Romeo-sama is pure poetry, carefully crafted beauty incarnate. Romeo-sama is not just the greatest VN author of all time, he is the epitome of human wisdom, a god among men. There can be no doubt that each and every one of his works are among the greatest works of art humanity has ever produced. Praise be to Romeo-sama.
>>14920407
School harems need to die already.
>>14920597
Eroge should try generic 異世界 fantasy instead of generic school harems. It'd be a nice change of pace.
>>14920407
how does one go from "I'm not interested in school harems" to writing something like kouya
>>14920643
He was mandated by Takahiro, also the main part of Kouya takes place during the adult live of the characters
>>14920643
The school part of Shokomeza is just the common route. Prologue, if you will.
>when the protag has no voice
Why does anyone do this?
>>14920771
Waste of money
>>14920771
It's a considerable expense, few people actually care that much, and just as many are actively against it. From a business standpoint, voicing the protag would honestly be a pretty strange decision.
>>14920793
Voiced protag is one of biggest reasons why Hello Lady and Ruitomo are so highly praised.
Rance 03 had very good reception too, including Rance's voiced stuff.
>>14920801
The voiced protagonist is one of the reasons why I hated hello lady.
>>14920801
>Voiced protag is one of biggest reasons why Hello Lady and Ruitomo are so highly praised.
I fully believe that is complete and utter bullshit. Voiced protagonist doesn't mean shit if the writing is bad, and those games have good writing.
>>14920812
Hablukas don't count.
>>14920801
>Voiced protag is one of biggest reasons why Hello Lady and Ruitomo are so highly praised.
what?
>>14920801
Ruitomo was popular well before Tomo was voiced, his voice was added as a patch given with the FD
>>14920812
He is one of the best voiced protagonist, the acting is perfect
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?
I liked the voiced protag in monobeno. It definitely made it better.
>>14920812
I thought they did a great job with Narita's voice acting. Definitely one of the main reasons why I really liked the game.
>>14920407
So that explains why Shokomeza is shit
Can we talk about cute girls?
What eroge has some really cute girls, I like to think clover days does have some of the cutest
>>14920978
>What eroge has some really cute girls
Are you an idiot?
>>14920981
He's just some fag trying to the /vg/ kind of meaningless posting.
>>14920981
Some look really shit like prism recollection.
>>14920989
So what? Plenty of fish in this vast, vast sea.
>>14920988
These threads barely have any discussion, and if it is, its about a tweet or the current meme game.
I assumed everybody was either fapping or reasding but then again this board has little traffic.
>>14921009
Busy working on the backlog.
>>14921009
>meme game
It's because of fuckheads like you that this thread is like this.
What should I play?
>>14921009
Take a step back and stop caring about shit like "meme games".
>>14921009
>current meme game
You must be a retard, Every month will have one or two popular titles; Last month it was Noraneko and this month it'll be Maitetsu & Akeiro etc. Of course those will get more discussion than other games, because more people are reading them.
>>14921048
Maitetsu is an actual meme game, though.
>>14921048
>Last month it was Noraneko
I'm pretty sure I only read like 2-3 posts of people reading that
>>14921048
What about dies?
Happy birthday, ありす!
>>14921056
I'll indulge your idiocy, since I'm interested what bullshit reasons you have for thinking that. Share.
>>14920601
NEET protagonist who reincarnates into a former all-girls high school in another world with a special ability that lets him get the best grades is the endgame of all Japanese media.
>>14921074
Cute!
>>14921078
It's another game that isn't actually going to be good, but people will overhype because the main cast consists of lolis and that's the in thing right now. Monobeno was average but smug loli brought it up to meme game status.
>>14921081
Is he also a mech pilot?
>>14921095
>Monobeno was average but smug loli brought it up to meme game status.
So you never actually played Monobeno and only speak about its recognition on /v/ and among your pals on /vg/. Super relevant, I tell you. Shush from now on.
>lolis and that's the in thing right now
One more thing that shows how clueless you are.
>>14921081
Valkyrie Runabout, the game you are describing, was pathetic.
PSA:
デイグラシアの羅針盤 is the newest game recommended by hadler-sama.
Previous recommended games include 西暦2236年 or 一緒に行きましょう逝きましょう生きましょう.
>>14921107
The only good thing about Monobeno was the setting. The story itself was weak and most of the routes were completely irrelevant even though the revolved around said story. The true route was completely overwhelming. In the end it felt like a waste of time to read and I can only assume people enjoy it because of the lolis and all the extra H-scenes.
>One more thing that shows how clueless you are.
In the western community it's true. Lately if you don't like loli you're shunned for being an outsider.
>>14921133
Pretty sure we're all following his twitter, no need to specifically report it.
>>14921134
>The true route was completely overwhelming.
It was that good, you say?
Anyway, the whole "non-loli shunning" thing is really just a joke, its not really serious, to any degree.
>>14921133
What is it?
>>14921134
Literally who the fuck cares about western weeaboos? They're lower than 2ch.
>The only good thing about Monobeno was the setting. The story itself was weak and most of the routes were completely irrelevant even though the revolved around said story. The true route was completely overwhelming. In the end it felt like a waste of time to read and I can only assume people enjoy it because of the lolis and all the extra H-scenes.
Did you notice that what you just wrote could be easily substituted by almost any game whatsoever? That's how irrelevant your opinion is. Here:
>The only good thing about Baldr Sky was the setting. The story itself was weak and most of the routes were completely irrelevant even though the revolved around said story. The true route was completely overwhelming. In the end it felt like a waste of time to read and I can only assume people enjoy it because of the lolis and all the extra H-scenes.
>>14921136
I see, that's probably true.
>>14921134
What do you mean by true route? Sumi after? That definetly can be called "true route", since it ties everything together the best and showcases most of the setting.
Alice's and Natsuha's after routes feel more like fandiscs for their fans. If you're not their fan, you might as well skip those routes. Alice's might be worth it for Gokaiso-chan though.
Also lol at that appeal to western community. Desperate.
>>14921134
>In the western community it's true
Lmao, Whats your next move, calling fuwanovel users for help or something?
>>14921067
I dont think it'll out popular Maitetsu or Akeiro since its just a mid priced all ages spin off.
>>14921201
>Akeiro
What?
>>14921204
あけいろ怪奇譚?
>>14921205
First I've heard of it
>>14921141
>Literally who the fuck cares about western weeaboos?
Are you Japanese ?
>>14921213
Its sequel (kinda) of なないろリンカネーション, which was 2014's one of the best games. Also the trial was pretty great as well so pretty much everyone who has liked なないろ are currently hyped for it.
I dont think its Maitetsu level popularity tho.
Are any Maeda Jun's games worth playing?
Post a visual novel you loved, but that only you have read, or only you still remember.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m06jl3WEnn0
>>14921299
Air and clannad, the rest have been copied to hell and back.
>>14921300
Will Purple Software manage to save themselves after Chrono Clock?
Was it smart to release their grand strategy eroge insanely bugged?
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=21047
>>14921622
Literally every sengoku hime game has game breaking bugs. Why would anyone expect any different?
>>14921544
Personally, I was somewhat disappointed thatother protagonist's personality is actually not that strong too. And pretty strange that while MC is basically an ex-assassin, but still weaker than most of other characters.Other that that, pretty good vn.
>>14921726
Post your own, don't just criticize.
Am I the only one who mute every single voiced protag?
I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who played Still Sword, because it's on VNDB but isn't a vn, or wasnt for however far I got into the game (combat button was broken on my emulators so I couldnt get far)
https://vndb.org/v18074
>>14921628
This time its not some little bug, you just cant play it though.Aand even though it has been 2 months they didnt release a fix patch, which means most likely even they dont know how to fix it.
In short all the people who has bought just wasted their money on something literally unplayable.
>>14921984
And they'll release a new game in 2 weeks. Lets see if there's any retard who'll spend money on that.
Seriously instead of making new games just fix the motherfucking Sengo Muramasa. It has been 2 months and still all they can say it "we are really sorry, we are trying our best to make a fix patch"
>>14917022
I read the first halfbefore dropping it and found almost nothing funny. I'd just drop it.
I bet some parts were funnier before the lawsuit
>>14921141
>Did you notice that what you just wrote could be easily substituted by almost any game whatsoever? That's how irrelevant your opinion is. Here:
Did you notice that what you wrote could be easily substituted by almost any criticism whatsoever? That's how irrelevant your opinion is.
Might as well just not criticize anything because you could replace the title of what you're critiquing with a different title regardless of whether the claims remain true.
>>14922145
Rather, when you do criticize, back yourself up, elaborate, give examples, etc etc
>>14922187
I agree with this. The main issue I see with a lot of knee-jerk criticism wars is that the participants don't actually try to tie their criticism to the game itself. It's often generic fallbacks like "the story was weak at points", "the pacing was poor and some scenes dragged on for too long", etc. It's much more interesting and fruitful when you can actually point to the bad parts and discuss why they are bad from there.
>>14922187
How about: if someone criticizes something without going into depth, just accept that it is their opinion and move on. You shouldn't have to write an essay ever time you say you disliked something, just as you shouldn't have to write an essay to say you enjoyed something.
>>14913837
Not even his worst face.
>>14922228
I mean, that begs the question, why criticize something without going into depth? What's the point of making a post like "this sucks, and here's shallow reasons why?"
Not a big deal, of course. I just didn't like his response to being told his criticisms are meaningless.
>>14922266
Why praise something without going into depth?
>>14921057
I'm reading it right now
>>14922281
In the context of his post, I mean. There's a difference between posting about a game you liked, and getting into a discussion of the game, you know? If a guy challenges your opinion and you back it up with drivel, why even try and back it up in the first place? It's no better than not posting at all. In this context.
>>14921984
>This time its not some little bug, you just cant play it though.
Sengoku Hime 3 crashed randomly at the map screen and I was never able to finish it.
>>14921300
Been a while now but I just felt like nagging
Even Lose is blocking gaijin IPs
Et tu, Lose?
![monobeno_140530-9[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4wXpscd.jpg "monobeno_140530-9[1].jpg")
>>14915816
nigga you see people complaining on futaba they couldn't do it with emi back on monobeno
they're just listening to their peeps
>>14922903
Duh, why would they want foreigners to see their Highly Immoral Content(TM) and whine about it? It's a Japan only product, just proxy like everyone else.
>>14922903
Actually I think Lose has a good reason for blocking gaijin IPs unlike other companies.
>>14919594
Game?
>>14923266
https://vndb.org/v17038
>>14922346
You shouldn't have to write an essay every time someone gets butthurt that you didn't like a game that they do like.
>>14917022
I think the lesson to be learned is to not read webcomics.
>>14923396
You don't need an essay. When someone challenges you, either back yourself up or don't reply, making a dumb shallow reply like that is pointless.
>>14923636
He did back himself up, with generalized statements, because nobody wants to write an essay every time they decide not to like something. It's not a prerequisite for expressing your opinion.
If I'm reviewing a sandwich shop and say that the meatball sub tastes "off somehow," that's my opinion and I don't need to back it up with an essay. If I further clarify that it's because "the ingredients they used really didn't go well together" that also stands on its own. There is no need to put up or shut up here. It's a sandwich. People have opinions about them, even if the particularly opinion in question could have been describing a souffle or a banana split.
And you haven't challenged the truth of his generalized statements anyway.
>>14923703
Generalized statements are not good back up. It's the statements themselves which need back up.
>This game is bad.
>Oh yeah? Why?
>I don't like it.
Surely you can see why this is not a worthwhile exchange. If you're not going to explain why, and just dodge the subject with generalizations, then there's no need to reply. In your example, if I read a review and someone gave the meatball sub a low review because it was "off somehow", I'd ignore the review because it's not meaningful.
>And you haven't challenged the truth of his generalized statements anyway.
Alright, let's do this.
>The only good thing about Monobeno was the setting
No, everything was good.
> The story itself was weak
No, the story was strong.
>The true route was completely underwhelming.
No, the true route was overwhelming.
> In the end it felt like a waste of time to read
No, it felt like a good use of time.
And so on and so on. Only good part of his post was that the routes were "irrelevant" which did gather a good response >>14921149
I want to be clear that I'm not implying every post should have a ton of elaboration and explanations. Posts just saying "I like this game", "I don't like this game", etc, generalized statements, etc, that's all fine. The only reason it's an "issue" right now is because Anon was challenged that he had actually not played the game, and his response, his summary of his thoughts, his review, was to make hella fucking general statements with practically no elaboration or explanation? What's the point?
Do any of you guys know how the PSN works?
I'm trying to buy muvluv doublepack for the Vita, but I only see the two separate games individually.
I've already played through the games years ago, but I'd enjoy playing it while I travel/commute for work and shit.
Please don't tell me it's only the physical version...
>>14923796
The FFX / X2 vita pack, X2 was a digital download and FFX was a base game. I wouldn't be surprised if muvluv was something similar.
>>14922928
Lose fans are way too used to fucking everything.
This was an exchange from a Maitetsu broadcast:
>Why are there so many granny subcharacters?
>Because otherwise people would ask for H scenes.
>>14923777
>I'd ignore the review because it's not meaningful.
That'd be a very unmeaningful generalization of you, like saying a whole argument is useless just because you can convert the modus ponens to tollens.
In short, you found his argument dumb and unconvincing, and thought that it's unlikely that asking him for details would bring about anything good. So, unless you really are asking "What's the point of being dumb when you don't know you are dumb?", his review is really meaningful and full of points, good sir.
>>14924124
B-but I want to fuck the grannies too!
>>14923777
>I'd ignore the review because it's not meaningful.
Well, far be it from me to stop you from ignoring 99% of the "unmeaningful" reviews in this thread.
>his response, his summary of his thoughts, his review, was to make hella fucking general statements with practically no elaboration or explanation?
If you want elaboration and explanation you should ask for it.
There barely any statements in this thread, or the last ten, that you can't arbitrarily turn around and claim the opposite of if you really wanted to be a contrarian faggot.
>>14921847
Yes.
>>14923796
They are separate games, the double pack give you two different cartridges and it's not even at a reduced price. It's less than 200 yen off.
>>14923796
Man, Muv Luv was so bad...
>Lose最新作「まいてつ」無事、マスターアップ致しました！２０１６年３月２５日発売予定です。
Time to celebrate. No delays.
>>14924686
Trial when?
>>14924746
Clearly soon, not long remains till release after all.
>>14924686
Of course. The trains are always on time in Japan.
>>14924868
Well that train there is gonna be late when I'm done with her.
http://gematsu.com/2016/03/fateextella-announced-ps4-ps-vita
>>14925238
I find it hard to care about more milking by Nasu.
Do you think Rinne-chan's A3 poster is worth 1080 yen?
>>14925470
not for 10
>>14925488
>>14925502
>>14925509
Why do you dislike Rinne-chan?
>>14925531
I like Rinne. No way that's worth a thousand yen.
>>14925531
I like Rinne and the picture is nice but 1080? No thanks.
How many of you fucks are actually fluent in Japanese>
>>14925820
You should fuck off, but beforehands note that fluent refers to active ability of language (speaking andf writing it) and strictly speaking no active ability is needed to read VNs.
>>14925820
I am fluent in text hooking.
>>14925854
Me too! Small world.
>>14925854
There are people that actually use text hookers?
>>14925903
Of course, how else would you read all those weird ass chicken scratches before you see them enough times to remember them by heart? Auto-furigana is a godsend for reading and learning.
>>14925907
By reading things with furigana obviously. No text hooker required.
>>14925918
Why limit myself like that? text hookers take what, 15 seconds to set up? And after that I can read normally.
Serious response to trolls: Far too many games don't work with texthookers (especially new ones that people haven't found the H code for, and especially older games people can't find the H code for) so relying on it is not something I'd ever recommend, it'd prevent you from reading a good chunk of VNs.
>>14926049
Meh, I'm using a text hooker for like 3 - 4 times during a game with weird kanji. I could find another methods if texthookers wouldn't work (like a dictionary, something I even use when reading English literature) but it's the most comfortable solutions.
>>14926049
>Far too many games don't work with texthookers
Name 10
>>14926049
I stopped using Text Hookers mainly because of how a lot of older games don't have silent mode. This is a crime, though, every fucking game should have silent mode.
>>14926049
Complete bullshit, I'm trying 2-3 games per every month and almost didnt get any games which doesn't work with texthookers. I'm pretty sure you cant name 10 games which released in last 5-6 years.
You dont even need h-code for most of them now.
>>14926063
>silent mode
What's that?
>>14926062
セミラミスの天秤 requires a ton of fiddling I don't want to do
戦御村正
雨芳恋歌 didn't work, but ITH may work
Some PC-98 games I've tried playing but emulating is a mess. Many DLsite VN-game hybrids have too much game text to texthook. Console only games like Chaos Child (at the moment) (p.s. PSP texthooking is still a mess).
And I haven't even played *that* many games. I'm a newbie in this area with less than a year's experience. So I can only imagine discovering more and more games that can't be texthooker the further I poke around. That is, if I keep using one. Let me restate: The be clear: The majority of games absolutely work with texthookers, but a good number don't.
>>14926061
Frankly I have a hard time believing you use a texthooker 3-4 times a game. However, supposing you're telling the truth, I said "relying on it" i.e. furigana injecting and reading the whole game like that, so using it 3-4 times is not relying on it.
>>14926092
Most new games use Kiri Kiri which is always texthookable. Also why limit it to 5-6 years? I'm talking about all media across all time, no reason to limit it. It's an awful position to be in to say
>"Oh, a cool VN for a console, I can't pread it though because I can't texthooker"
>"Oh cool, a VN. Aw damn, can't be texthooked, guess I'm fucked."
>>14926107
>Frankly I have a hard time believing you use a texthooker 3-4 times a game
Because that's not what I wrote.
During a generic moege, the numbers tends to hit 0.
>>14926107
>Some PC-98 games I've tried playing but emulating is a mess.
I've had problems with only one single game in my entire life with PC-98. Took like hours to set it up, but after that nothing.
>>14926049
I just use texthookers because it's more convenient than looking up via radicals and still have to look stuff up often enough when not reading moege/SoL setting stuff that radical search takes up more time than desired. Just turn off all of the stupid parsing/furigana shit and don't rely on it too much and it's fine.
>>14926119
Same difference dude, surely you're aware of how pointless that correction was.
>>14926124
>and don't rely on
My post was explaining why one shouldn't rely on a texthooker, not why one shouldn't use one at all.
>>14926107
>"Oh, a cool VN for a console, I can't pread it though because I can't texthooker"
>"Oh cool, a VN. Aw damn, can't be texthooked, guess I'm fucked."
Yes, and? Without a texthooker that would apply to every single VN out there unless you can read most kanji in it. I don't get what you mean.
>>14926128
Yeah, I guess I was more expanding on your post rather than disagreeing with it.
>>14926107
>Also why limit it to 5-6 years?
Because you have said so? Did you even read your own post?
>especially new ones that people haven't found the H code
>especially
Also almost every older games have h-codes too so you are not limiting yourself in any way even if you are talking about all media across all time.
Sorry but you are just taking things from your ass and speaking like they are right for sure, even though you have no idea how many games are hookable and how many are not. I'm playing untranslated games for 3-4 years and I'm only opening them if I saw a really weird kanji, which happens pretty rare, but I really dont like how you are trying to shit on those people who use them without any facts.
>>14926142
I literally followed that with "and especially older games people can't find the H code for". So I'm really baffled at your post.
I also am not shitting on people who use them. I explicitly stated RELYING on them because I saw someone make a troll post about not learning kanji in order to use furigana.
All I can imagine is that you didn't read my post well, flared up in anger, and aren't thinking straight.
>>14926131
See above. I'm really getting the feeling people are not paying attention.
>>14926146
And? You have said that "but a good number don't" and couldnt give even a couple of examples?
セミラミスの天秤 works
戦御村正 is not even playable, Are you getting random games from google? Because of a bug you cant even play that game, everyone is waiting for update patch.
雨芳恋歌 also should work with ITHVNR.
So, you didnt even get a single game which is unhookable, but still trying to shit on people with random facts from your ass, saying "you'll not able to play good amount of them"
>>14926162
セミラミスの天秤 requires a lot of fiddling like I said.
戦御村正 is playable, I played it, and the text doesn't hook.
Furthermore, I listed examples in console games, which are undeniably untexthookable and great in number.
And finally, I even said I was elaborating. I don't doubt as I play more games I'll find more that don't hook. Your hostility is leading to you not reading my posts. I suggest you calm down and stop attacking, because you're making yourself look silly.
>EOPs shitting up the thread with their text hooking arguments
We would appreciate you all returning to /vg/.
>>14926166
>requires a lot of fiddling
It takes only fucking 30 seconds, I have finished that fucking game one year ago mate.
戦御村正; Yeah game starts and continues for a while then you are getting stuck in the middle. See >>14921622 >>14921628 >>14921984 >>14922070 It uses same Unicorn-A shit, getting a h-code is not a problem IF they can ever get that fucking update and fix the game.
And only console games? How many of them worth of playing? like 5, 10 maybe? Most likely not even that much, since all of them are getting pc releases if they are good. And I wouldnt count that much as "great in number".
As I said you are just trying to shit on people who are using it, and showing how masterace you are, without being able to count even 5 unhookable games.
>>14926172
Comments like this are why the argument is happening. Making blanket statements about texthookers regardless of whether it's just using it to make looking stuff up in a dictionary easier or being a shitter that lets it handhold you through everything by generating furigana and parsing the grammar and shit (or even machine translating, but hopefully no one here actually does that).
>>14926184
>Yeah game starts and continues for a while then you are getting stuck in the middle.
OK, but the text doesn't hook, and you can read text before it crashes.
>How many of them worth of playing?
I don't see your point.
>As I said you are just trying to shit on people who are using it
Allow me to quite the firsts post so you can see how silly you are
>How else would you read all those weird ass chicken scratches before you see them enough times to remember them by heart? Auto-furigana is a godsend for reading and learning.
>Far too many games don't work with texthookers so relying on it is not something I'd ever recommend, it'd prevent you from reading a good chunk of VNs.
How am I shitting on anyone? Show me shitting on people. I'm not. I've simply come across games that don't work with texthookers, I know console games don't work with texthookers, so I don't recommend RELYING on texthookers, because you will become unable to play many games. I remember Silverio Vendetta having a problem of crashing with texthookers unless you bend your back to avoid it, Ayakashibito that I'm playing right now eats up memory until the game can't play when I hook it, there's lots of problems I have with texthookers and thus wouldn't recommend relying on them to the point where you'll always need them.
Next time, read posts slowly and thoroughly before replying and getting angry. Thank you.
>>14926100
It's a mode in some VNs that allows you to have the BGM playing even when you minimize the VN or switch windows.
>>14926591
>BGM playing even when you minimize the VN or switch windows.
Other anon here. I thought that it's a glitch. First time to know that it's a feature not bad coding.
>>14926591
>>14926623
I thought the glitch was music stopping when you tab out, actually. My main sources of music are youtube and foobar, and both keep playing while minimized, so I logically thought VNs would naturally keep playing music when minimized/tabbed out of.
>>14916247
Dunno, I see more posts discussing moege.
I prefer plotge, i can't stand moege at all. I dropped oretsuba even though it's top rated.
Plot first, cure girls next.(don't misunderstand, i'm not into stuff like "No, thank you" or other gay shit) Just don't care enough about grills and H-scenes.
>>14920776
Why? You can raise the VN's price a bit to compensate. Some VNs would be less great if they had unvoiced MC, e.g. Muramasa, Baldr sky, Steins Gate.
No voice is only acceptable if it has a special meaning for the story(Ever17, 12Riven).
>>14926128
Plenty of us don't use text hookers at all. Why would you have a hard time believing someone uses it but needs it infrequently?
Although I think if you're only using it 3-4 times it's not worth the effort to set it up to begin with.
>>14926201
> so I don't recommend RELYING on texthookers
You're arguing against a strawman. Nobody relies on text hookers forever if they are actually trying to learn Japanese, and when most people first start reading they don't have a choice but to rely on them. If you just finished Tae Kim you can't just decide "You know what, I'm not going to rely on text hookers" because you just won't be able to read anything. You will be choosing stuff based on their difficulty already, so it really doesn't effect things that much to have to take into account whether text hookers work with the game.
>>14920812
The voiced protagonist was the only reason I didn't drop it. Everything else was pretty bad.
>>14926692
>Although I think if you're only using it 3-4 times it's not worth the effort to set it up to begin with.
That's what I mean. I myself frequently don't use texthookers, so I'm not doubting he is of that level of proficiency. I just don't know why someone of that level would go to the lengths to hook a game just to look up 3-4 kanji instead of just using radicals or whatever. Infrequently, is one thing. 3-4 times is entirely another, it's just so little that I doubt someone actually would still use texthookers ever if they needed it so rarely.
>>14926697
>How else would you read all those weird ass chicken scratches before you see them enough times to remember them by heart? Auto-furigana is a godsend for reading and learning.
I consider someone relying on auto-furigana to read kanji to be relying on texthookers.
Also you will be able to read anything without texthookers it will just take more time, not that I reccomend that.
>>14926704
Are you arguing against Clephas's method or something? Why make a post to argue against something that everyone already knows is stupid.
>>14926720
No I quoted the post that made me make my post.
I'm not even arguing against anything, I'm just having to clarify that I'm just saying it's bad to rely on texthookers, no one's said it's good to rely on texthookers - they're all misunderstanding me to either be saying don't use texthookers or that texthookers are bad.
>>14926187
>being a shitter that lets it handhold you through everything by generating furigana and parsing the grammar and shit
What's wrong with that? I have no interest in Japanese, I just want to read VNs. Texthooker lets me read VN. Instead of concentrating all my power of will and time to learn these stupid kanji, I enjoy reading.
>>14926683
No voice is acceptable in every single VN where you're meant to self insert i.e. 99% of them.
Ah, so this is how it is.つ～い、つ～い、終ノ空.
>>14926736
But I don't read moeshit. Like at least half of the VNs I read had a MC with well-shaped personality.
>>14926748
Ups, let's try again.つ～い、つ～い、終ノ空.
>>14926720
Why the fuck would you rely on the method of someone who still has to rely on a text hooker after 500 eroge played?
>>14926750
>I don't read moeshit
Everyone look at this faggot and laugh.
>>14926734
I genuinely can't tell if this is a shitpost or if you're just dumb, so I'll assume you're shitposting and move on.
Just finished the trial for Island.
Was entertained the whole way through, and really looking forward to see where the story goes.
Waiting warmly for release.
Kuon is a real cutie.
>>14927221
>so I'll assume you're shitposting and move on.
Not moving on if you go so far as to make a reply
>>14927229
>Kuon
>Side Character
Bruh
>>14927229
I only played the prologue. Are chapters 1, 2 and 3 short? I was planning to wait till the full release because I don't want to ruin the experience by forgetting stuff.
http://sagaplanets.product.co.jp/works/floflo/
What do you guys think of new sagaplanet's characters? It may be just me but seriously not even one seems charming to me, The classic annoying childhood friend main heroine with classic tsundere friend + a foreign blonde who sleeps in the middle of conversation and lastly an airhead.
I'd definitely prefer Hanasaki heroines over this one, not even a single one seems more interesting than hanasaki's heroines.
>>14927311
Thats what happens when you drop an NTR game. Gotta go back to your roots to win back scorned fans.
>>14927311
The redhead is really cute. Maybe you're just gay.
>>14927311
>What do you guys think of new sagaplanet's characters?
Generic
>>14927289
Those chapters are just separate scenes.
Same as the character introduction videos they have on youtube.
>>14927349
Okay, thank you.
>>14927311
>the classic annoying childhood friend main heroine with classic tsundere friend
>>14927339
Man her design is kind of cute I'll give that, but I didnt like her VA even a slightly bit and being the generic childhood friend definitely doesn't help either.
>>14927311
The strong point of Hanasaki for me was the comedy sol parts. I can't judge this till I play the trial, but I do hope its not generic as it seems.
>>14927311
Looks like fun. Definitely playing the trial
http://www.lose.jp/official/kokorotabi
>通運会館 2F (秋葉原)
>17:00－19:20予定
>住所：〒101-0021 東京都千代田区外神田３丁目１６−１８
I was expecting a bigger venue.
>>14927554
Yeah, I presume many people will come. I'll be one of them.
>>14927567
I'll still try to get in though I expect I won't be able to. I can imagine the lines queued up for at least 2 hours before the event.
>>14927592
It's possible they'll he handing out 整理券.
>>14927554
It's a government sting operation
>>14926683
I don't think Kou's voice in Baldr Sky was particularly noteworthy. It didn't annoy me enough to turn it off, but I would have been completely okay with no voice for the protagonist like Force.
>>14927705
Ishida does wonders for Tohru in force.
>>14927705
Dunno, I can't imagine him being unvoiced.
The contrast between school/soldier modes was noteworthy. There were some epic moments. No VO for MC makes the game duller IMO.
>>14927311
Even if it's kusoge of the year I'll still wind up reading it for Kusuhara Yui and Mai Gotou.
I can't win against my dick. Please send help.
>>14927838
>kusoge of the year
That's Purely Cation
>>14927848
Shit, I like Nanaroba Hana's art interms of pin up for magazines and stuff and even I think the game looks hideous.
>>14927311
I only read one of their game. And it was shit. Never again touching shit from that company.
>>14927895
>Never again touching shit from that company.
Remember to give equal merit to companies AND to authors.
Is Amakano worth reading?
>>14927944
It's a nice winter moege with a great art, and a veteran voice cast.
If that doesn't sound appealing to you, then probably not.
>>14927944
Its a pretty relaxed comfy game, there isn't almost any drama so if you want to read something calm, try it.
>>14927944
Start from the second game, the heroines and the mc are much more better.
>>14927733
He really doesn't, f︂︂a︂m. The PS2 version of Force is an abomination.
