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クラーピだよ
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that "clumsy" whore showing off her bloomers/panties again
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This reminds me of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
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Raws where?
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I can already feel the anal anguish of a million autists
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CP confirmed for flat
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>>14671250
Delicious flat.
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>>14671259
Deliciously flat, with a hint of budding breasts and some chub.
She's somehow even lewder than she was in the game. Holy fuck.
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>>14670890
It is just the gate for the human village.

Somehow being treated as an ominous and threatening place.
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>>14671250
Literally every 2hu except Kasen and Byakuren are flat as boards in canon so I'm not sure why this is a notable development.
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I fucking love fairies, and adding Clappy to the mix is going to be even more awesome!
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>>14669675
>クラーピ
boy, you got that right!
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>>14669675
Her hat is supposed to be fucking PURPLE.
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>>14671476
Are you colorblind? It's purple, albeit of a rather reddish shade
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>>14669675
Why did they change her eye color? It's fine being purple the way it is. I swear, red is the most common Touhou eye color.
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>>14671436
Just because they're not titty monsters it doesn't mean 2hus are super flat.
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>>14671485
I might be. It just looks stark red to me.
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>>14671476
>>14671485
I think the low quality image and the torch's light are making it more redish than it's meant to be, but yeah it's purple.
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>>14671353
>Somehow being treated as an ominous and threatening place.

It is, when you're a little fairy.
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>>14671457
>Clappy
That's a cute nickname
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>>14671811
It's better than the alternate transliteration with "r". Though I also am a fan of simply "CP".
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>>14671157
On bookwalker.jp or ebookjapan.jp, provided you have 700円 to spare.
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>>14669675
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>>14671436
>Literally every 2hu except Kasen and Byakuren are flat as boards in canon

Life is full of surprises.
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>>14671925
Nice boobs, Orin.
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>>14671259
Man, I wanna FUCK a fairy...
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>>14671925
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2nd Great Fairy Wars: Battle for the Hakurei Shrine confirmed when?
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>WAHH still not scanned
>translation is two chapters behind
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>>14672014
link
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>>14672066
It's still not that bad, translation status for official Touhou written works has seen way worse days.

Also Makoto's style changed a little bit, it's more soft. And wow calm down Star.
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>>14671259

Amazing.
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>>14672129
http://bato.to/reader#b0836d81f8d0de33

http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/touhou-sangetsuei-visionary-fairies-in-shrine-r17997
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Marisa in lolk never touched the Moon apparently.
Or at best she never met Clownpiss.
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>>14672131
>Iron Shell Bombs
What the fuck
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>>14671806

Reminder that Rumia can rip an adult human apart with her bare hands.
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>>14672141
Thankee sai
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>>14672148
For a bunch of fairies entering in the enemy main base is still a problem. Specially when there's a bunch of strong figures protecting humans.
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>>14672158
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Oh damn. Do I need to finish reading the other fairies manga?
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>>14672158
>>14672165
Next chapter, Sunny, Luna and Star get turned into semen toilets with the sole purpose of pleasuring human cocks.
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Why is everything behind Reimu's shrine?
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I hope this means we're going to see the t-shirt weirdo.
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DOG BLESS AMERIGA
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"Insane Fairy of Hell" Clownpiece, with her first page sprinkled in human skulls.
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>>14672143
ofcourse not, she died.
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>>14672158
What?

Fairies are not known to be antagonistic to humans, only seen as mild annoyances at worst.
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>>14672303
>Fairies are not known to be antagonistic to humans
Humans like to bully fairies since they can't bully youkai.
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>>14672303
>only seen as mild annoyances at worst

And cock sleeves at best.
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>>14672321
Because fairies ten to prank humans like some sort of dumb children. And since the most average human can easily overpower a fairy with physical might alone, of course they get what is coming to them.

Still, my point stands. Fairies do not actively seek to harm humans, even if some of their pranks may be mean.
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>>14672250
Poor CP
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>>14672250
Clappy ran away from home! What a loser!
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>>14671320
This.

I saw >>14671259 and my dick instantly turned hard as rock.

I want to creampie creampiece as I embrace her slightly chubby loli body.
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>>14672143
Maybe she doesnt wants to remember Clownpiece and the T-shirt weirdo
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>>14671259
Damn, I wanna fuck a fairy...
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>>14670890
>>14671259
Does all the fairies manga have furigana?
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>>14672303
Yes, but when they're in your territory you won't let escape the chance of kicking one till she cries.
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>>14672427
Fairy bullies are not welcome here. Go away.
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>>14672434
Are you seriously siding with these assholes?
Did you stare at that bitch's torch maybe?
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>>14672200
You probably should, but don't have to. The only really relevant piece of data happens at the end of Oriental Sacred Place. If you just read the last two issues of OSP you've got everything important.
It's just Reimu making peace with and accepting that the Three Fairies live in a tree behind her shrine. Instead of hiding there, they are known, and are sorta living there with Reimu's blessing.
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>>14672452
I'm siding with any asshole that's that cute.
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>>14671259
Someone better do this for the other fairies
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>>14672340
>And since the most average human can easily overpower a fairy

Yeah, I'm sure average humans can overpower those fairies you meet when playing Lunatic.
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>>14672516
Other fairies aren't that lewd.
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>>14672148
No bully the Rumia
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Daiyousei is still cute.
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>>14672340
Fairies like to prank humans all the time because they can't even get close to them or even worse they won't even notice the fairy.

Even if they're stronger as you say good luck catching one.
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>>14672517
Danmaku isn't very harmful and they don't know any substantial spells, so most likely you could just walk through it if you didn't care and hit them with a limb.
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>>14671259
I want a piece of that clown.
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>>14672612
>Danmaku isn't very harmful

Said no one ever. They can literally kill in games.
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>>14672632
Only Mokou gets killed by danmaku
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>>14672653
And the entire cast in LoLK, in a way.
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>>14672653

The youkai you fight with get "shoot down". Often in a painful way. Often with burn marks.

So yes, it's dangerous. A normal human farmer wouldn't want to meet Hard mode fairies. Especially since they usually move in packs.
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>>14672653
>>14672667
>>14672717
It depends on the rules they set from what I understand, if the opponent is strong enough they'll adjust the firepower etc.

Spell cards rules need to avoid death and serious injuries afterall.
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>>14672717
Fairies hunt in packs, shrine maiden.
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>>14672717
Even in the hardest battles, they just have torn clothes and scuff marks and the like. If I took a cigar and burned you in several places, you wouldn't be anywhere close to dying, so burn marks don't mean anything either.
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Can someone post a download link?, batoto won't let me download for some reason.
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>>14672794
That's because you're gay.
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>>14672732

I wonder how they do that when someone like Sakuya or Youmu is against a human.

I don't think getting a knife in your head or getting sliced by a sword is a minor thing.
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>>14671259
It isn't a crime if it's with a fairy, right guys?
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>>14672740

They are youkai 20 times tougher than humans and with magical regeneration.

Mokou who is just a human who drank immortality potion got killed a bunch of times by danmaku.
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>>14672889
Pretty sure most of the bullets are magical don't really cause enough damage to kill someone
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Holy shit, her semen demon level is off the charts.
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>>14672950
Fuck you, if I could cast magic missiles, I'd make them as explodey and deadly as possible.
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>>14672950

And why exactly are you assuming that magical bullets deal less damage than normal bullets?
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>>14672950
I pretty sure that Sakuya uses regular knives.

So if Sakuya does a danmaku battle with Marisa and hits her with a knife in the head, that would be quite deadly I would say.
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>>14673007
Because if they aren't then we would have seen blood in a defeated portrair
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>>14673068

Blood of who? Youkai monsters with crazy regeneration? Powerful human wizards with powerful magical defenses?

Mokou died when she took danmaku to the face.
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Why don't you all read Marisa's afterword in her grimoire and the article about spell card rules in PMiSS instead of speculating without basis?
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>>14672452
DAMMIT shes so fucking cute
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>>14673130
>spell card rules in PMiSS

If we go by this then not even a single duel we saw in the manga or fighting games was legal.
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>>14673162
Now you know why people don't consider anything but integer games canon.
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>>14673173
Suika doesn't exists then?
ULiL and LoLK by consequence never happened?
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>>14672540
So, did we finally get her real name yet? Or is that going to be one of the unsolved mysteries?
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>>14673180
Why do you think she's important enough to need a name? It's amazing no other minor fairy ever gets popularity, despite there being plenty of strong fairies you fight for a while and a few as midbosses.

>>14673179
The only proof of her existence is in non canon games and manga, so sure.
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>>14673209
your post is non canon, dude
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>>14673173

They are written by ZUN. If anything it shows that spellcard rules matter shit in everyday life outside of big flashy incidents.
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>>14673216
Your mom is non canon
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>>14672864
please...

And now the translator uses fucking imgur.
Some people prefer to download and keep them.
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>>14673209
>The only proof of her existence is in non canon games and manga, so sure.
What the hell? Are you telling me WaHH and the fairy manga are not canon?

What's next, are Aya's wings not canon either?
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I have a problem guys, I was imagining Star Sapphire and me in a disused, out of the way Japanese public toilet stall, just imagining how I would playfully lick and suck on her nipples while both my hands are enjoying the feel of her supple, smooth ass cheeks, just imagining her how it would feel when she straddles my lap, my cock kissing her womb as she takes my cock inside her in the one go and lewdly gyrates her hips wildly, just imagining how she would expertly milk my cock of semen, her flushed face of satisfaction as I fill her slippery fairy pussy with my human spunk...

Now I have this massive erection in public and did it won't go away, any advice? Please respond.
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>>14673209
KOSUZU A CUTE
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>>14673582
Trap a fairy and have fun
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>>14673068
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>>14673707
>cut content
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>>14673720
It's just a little cut
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>>14671806
cirno x daichan CONFIRMED
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>>14672014
Reimu's Shrine is getting really crowded now huh. A new resident though she lives underneath it though.
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>>14672148
>Reminder that Rumia can rip an adult human apart with her bare hands.
Which she never does because she is incompetent.
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>>14674072
Reimu have Shinmyoumaru living with her, three fairies living behind the shrine, Marisa visiting every day, Suika and Orin visiting often, Sumireko's hanging around when she's sleeping in the real world. So yeah, seems to be quite crowded.
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>>14672216
Reimu's shrine is on the edge of Gensokyo. Technically everything is behind it.
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Just how many ongoing manga series does ZUN have?
Where is all the money coming from?
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>>14674089
And Kasen.
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>>14671806
I love this panel.

Also, CP is a cute.
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>>14673209
>WaHH
>not canon
Yeah, no.
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>>14674089
Doesn't Kokoro live there too? Or does she only perform in the shrine?
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>>14674102
Go back to where you came from, secondary.
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Clap clap
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>>14674290
Least attractive fairy. It's pretty hard to beat Daiyousei, but she did it.
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>>14674303
You should get along with all faeries.
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ボイーン ボイーン
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>>14674303
The cutest in the end is Luna Child, so nothing else matters.
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>>14674332
Triangle face is the least attractive of the three fairies. However, that still makes her third overall.
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>>14674303
>Clownpiece
>Daiyousei
>less attractive than Sour Milk

I'm not sure if I should laugh at you or pity you for the sheer amount of wrong you are.
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>>14674335
Luna >>> Star = Sunny
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>>14674303
Least correct post in all of /jp/.
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>>14673209
>fighting games aren't canon
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I finished SSiB and Inaba of the Earth and Inaba of the Moon

What do I read now
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>>14674460
I dunno man, you can as well try something by Dostoevsky
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>>14674460
start with the hellenics
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>>14674460
Kodomo no Jikan.

Emphasis on "READ it". The anime doesn't do it justice, at all.
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Can we all agree that Sapphire is the most sexual touhou?
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>>14674363
Luna > Creampiece > Star >>>>>>>> Sunny
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>>14669675
Clownpiece is here to stay!
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>>14674132
She only performs at the shrine. I'd let her perform in my shrine, if you know what i mean.
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>>14674072
>underneath the shrine
Didn't something like this happened with Tenshi messing with the shrine without Reimu knowing? Is Yukari gonna fight Clownpiece like she did with the fairies?
That would be fun to watch.
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>>14674102
Three. Forbidden Scrollery, Wild and Horned Hermit, and Visionary Fairies in Shrine.
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>>14674589
dont bully sunny, who is canon the best fairy
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The fairies are revolutionaries? What are they trying to create a revolution for?
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>>14674084
Which she never does because she never attacks people.

>>14675041
They're lifestylers, just like the entire modern radical left. But I'm sure if Seija ever finds them, she can utilize them for the good of the whole youkai proletariat.
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>>14675041
>I don't think I've even seen a fairy that strong before!

Poor Cirno, she gets thrown under the bus by ZUN without even being acknowledged. In a winter manga about fairies no less.
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Anyone have a link to the chapter?
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It was a while since I was so entertained by an official Touhou mang. 9/10 cp a cute. A CUTE.
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>>14675041
Youkai are trampling on fairies' right, and sometimes literally trampling on fairies. Such is the class warfare of Gensokyo. But one day, when all the fairies of the world will unite, the fairies will take their rightful rights from their oppressors.
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>>14674460
The instructions to build a time machine because you wasted your time with Inaba
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>>14673162
Why not? They're just a little distorted but they still work as long you only consider story mode for the fighters.

The only case of rule breaking is Yorihime touching Marisa's danmaku like nothing.
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>>14675098
They probably just forgot about her.
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>>14674290
She looks bigger and more mature than the other fairies even though she's the same height.
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>>14673499
>What's next, are Aya's wings not canon either?
A guy actually argued and shitpost about the manga not being canon for 50+ posts on /v/, yesterday.
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>>14675359
She IS from Hell after all. She has probably seen some shit
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>>14675186
But it was cute
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>its a fairy episode
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>>14674290
I don't think words can describe how superior her long sleeves in this are to her original design.

>>14675359
I wish she were taller, that was a pretty common thing in fanworks. But with the canon confirmation that she's as short as any other fairy that'll probably end.

I'll miss Tallpiece and Boobpiece.
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>>14672452
>I don't want to go back to Hell

I don't think ヘカT is going to appreciate her servant walking out on her without notice.
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Just because there is a melee element included in the fighting game duels doesn't make them non-SCR compliant, next you're going to say Reimu's cards and needles actually have no physical characteristics.
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>>14675800
What the fuck are expecting from the fairy manga?
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>>14674494
Explain the picture
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>>14675862
Its a camel picking up a stick, why?
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>>14675041
Didn't they mention this in Great Fairy Wars? They just want to be taken seriously but theyw ere never strong enough, meeting a fairy as powerful as Clownpiece has got them thinking now.
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>>14675837
atleast not the same fucking faires every time
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>>14675098
>>14675229
Cirno is an embodiment of cold who lives in a random lake and happens to be unusually strong. She typically ranges from Stage 2 boss to Stage 1 midboss; at her strongest she's "huh, that fairy took actual effort to beat".

Clownpiece is an embodiment of Hell who works directly for the most powerful character in the setting and leads armies of other fairies, and that's before she was powered up by Junko. She's a Stage 5 boss in a game where all the bosses are explicitly way stronger than normal; at her strongest she can take on the entire Lunar Capital.

But no, I'm sure they thought the girl who throws snowballs was stronger-looking and better at mischief than a fairy-shaped mass of CONCENTRATED HELL who can drive people insane.
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>>14675873
They mention it in both the game and the extra chapters of the manga.
Not just them, even Cirno does. So I guess fairies in general are absolute assholes who'd set the world on fire if they could.
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>>14674313
>>14674329

What the shit are you doing Japan?
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>>14674380

The most evil fairy.
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>>14675812

How tall are they even? Like 100cm?
A body like >>14671259 + super short height is such an amazing combination. She's like some ultimate living onahole.
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>>14675967

Humans go insane by simply looking at her. She could just stand in the middle of human village and that would cause some apocalyptic scenario of murder and rape.
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Fuck no , i don't like this artist.
I mean he draw cute chubby fairies , but its all cute shit. I could find better non-H anytime. Even SsiB was better.
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>>14674550
Agreed!
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>>14676199
Well that is like your opinion.
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>>14675079
>They're lifestylers, just like the entire modern radical left.
Next issue will just be the three fairies spending the entire day drinking sake and attempting to organize a bake sale to fight yousei discrimination.
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>>14675967
>Clownpiece is an embodiment of Hell who works directly for the most powerful character in the setting

Actually, I'm starting to think that Clownpiece doesn't work for Hecatia. What's going on is that ALL of the Hell Fairies work for Hecatia and call her "master". This is why Clownpiece doesn't show up as an Extra stage midboss (like you'd expect the boss's underling to)--Hecatia doesn't actually know her.

Note that Hecatia never once actually talks about Clownpiece from what I remember of her dialogue. Clownpiece is probably just a random fairy in her eyes. This would explain why Hecatia isn't looking for her or anything, she probably doesn't even know that she left.

(Also holy SHIT do we need a cute nickname for Clownpiece like the Japanese have with クラピ, but that one transliterates to "Clappy" and sounds ridiculous).
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>>14676258
Pii-suu!
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>>14676258
>Clappy
>sounds ridiculous
Fight me. It sounds cute and fits the American theme.
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>>14676258
CP, obviously
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Wait, I am shitter, where I can find the translated manga? google only gives me raws.
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>>14676258
>Under Hecatia's orders, she filled the Sea of Tranquility with fairies she brought with her from Hell.

From the .txt, unless there's a better translation I'll keep believing she's some sort of hell fairy general that knows what she's doing.
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>>14676285

Google clarste you baka.
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>>14676258
>but that one transliterates to "Clappy" and sounds ridiculous
Americlap.
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>>14675558
>being a crossie
Yeah, I know, I was there. And that wasn't what he was arguing about at all, you dumb mamiposter.
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>>14676378
Thanks Senpai.
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>>14676268
Right when I don't have the time to fap, you post this image...

Eropiece is too much for my dick. I can't remember a Touhou being drawn this slutty and lewd by dojin artists since forever.
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>she is actually 100% evil and loves to make people suffer

Holy shit, she's literally fanon Flan turned into a real character.
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>>14676716
You mean like all fairies? Only difference is she is actually strong enough to make people suffer.
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>>14676805

Three autists drop people off cliffs or hide rivers with illusions. Or put small bombs in snowmen.

They are perfectly capable of hurting normal humans.

I'm sure angry humans do pretty horrible thing to them too if the manage to capture them.
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>>14676906
>I'm sure angry humans do pretty horrible thing to them too if the manage to capture them.
There's only 1 thing in my mind and I think it shouldn't be there.
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>>14676906
the point is that Fairies are evil little creatures just most of them are too weak to do much harm.
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>>14675041
>>14675873
It was mentioned in more than just the game Great Fairy Wars. Sunny had the idea back in Strange and Bright Nature Deity; they would gather up a huge number of fairies and cause an Incident.
They didn't refer to it as a revolution back then, but it's still absolutely what she's referring to. There was even a time lapse segment that showed Sunny repeatedly coming back to the idea over seasons, if not years. She's actually pretty dedicated to the idea, and the three fairies misguidedly destroying Cirno's house (to show how strong they were, and invite Cirno to join, which they communicated badly) was what started the Great Fairy War.
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>>14676258
Clownpiece does seem to be the leader of the fairy invasion force though.
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>Creampie-ce
lewd
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>>14676199
>even ssib was better
Let's not call a Mosley a Hitler anon
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>>14676952

Now they have an actual hell fairy and a communist goblin around. Revolution might actually happen.
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Fairies are boring
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>>14676991
I feel like there should already be a fanart of this floating around somewhere.
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I hope Clownpiece never goes back to Hell again. Is she even loyal to Hecatia anymore?
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>>14676991
>a communist goblin
Who?
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I had forgotten how sexy these fairies were.
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>>14676378
...links were also posted ITT.
Scroll up, people.
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>>14675041
Maybe Zun's getting ready to give Gensokyo a bit more of a war setting. It would especially be useful if he wants to change the landscape around and give it some more history.
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>>14676991
If by communist goblin you mean Seija, then yes, I hope it genuinely does happen.

Actually, if Visionary Fairies in Shrine had a slightly dramatic note and decided to have a two-parter involving Seija and CP, I'd be very happy.
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>>14676258
>but that one transliterates to "Clappy"
No, Anon, it translates to "Crappy."
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>>14676716
Fairies are not evil. They are force of nature and avatar of certain natural aspects. They can be mischievous. IN CP's case, extra mischievous.
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>>14677084
Uh, they're fairies.
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>>14677107
Clownpiece's name in Japane is "Kuraunpiisu". "Kurapi" comes from that, and the "ra" is supposed to be the <l> in "Clownpiece".

It transliterates to "Clappy".
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>>14677166
*Japanese

Because I know some literal autist will sperg out over a typo.
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Pure concentrate embodiment of HELL.
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>>14677207

I want more Hell and devils in Touhou.
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>>14677166
She's "Crappy", deal w/ it.
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>>14673209
>Subterranean Animism isn't canon

You made me reply to a post almost 24 hours old, good job.
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>>14677424
Only ReiKari path is canon
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>>14677510
D E L E T E
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>>14676258
>(Also holy SHIT do we need a cute nickname for Clownpiece like the Japanese have with クラピ, but that one transliterates to "Clappy" and sounds ridiculous).
That's just a shorter version of her name.

クラウンピース > クラピ

It's only westerners that see it as "Clappy", because that's what it sounds like. The Japanese see it as "Clownpiece" as one would expect.
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>>14677551
I wish I could see reality like westerners can. The universe would show me its truths.
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>>14674550
I think a more in-depth evaluation is needed.
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>>14675837
Disregard him, that's a facebook meme that made its way into /a/ thanks to casuals.
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>>14677221
>I want more Hell and devils in Touhou

Good luck with that
According to Zun in his Bestiary they got wiped out by Christians

>Devils (悪魔, akuma) are a mighty race that inhabit Gensokyo, mostly in the Makai.

>Like magicians or vampires. It was once said that they lived in different parts of our world until mass appearances of Demon Hunters and other Christian Zealots who hunted them to extinction.
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>>14677932
>ZUN's "canon"
>ever being accurate

He contradicts himself all the time.

Besides, even if they are extinct in real world they still exist in Gensokyo and Makai.
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>>14677141
So she's a Hell Elemental?
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>>14677141
Fairies and especially Clownpiece need to be spanked
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>>14677932
>Christians
Loli Amakusa Shirō when?
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If she's a hell fairy why does she have normal fairy wings instead of those demonic makai fairy wings?
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>>14678027
Makai isn't hell. Makai is a seperate world Shinki made.
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I'm just glad we get to see more of these three
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>>14677932
Wait, where is this from?
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>>14678039

Fairies on the moon had makai wings.
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>>14677641
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>>14677107
And Miko is the Clown Prince
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>Clothedpiece is lewder than Nakedpiece
>Flatpiece is lewder than Boobpiece
How did ZUN do it?
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>>14678318
Clownpiece is a miracle of nature
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>>14678318

Sexy clothes are way better than nude. It's common knowledge.
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>>14678176
I want to give a hot creamy enema to that ass.
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>>14678318
And there are people who put ZUN's character design magic in doubt. Ha!
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>>14678266
Nobody calls Taishi-sama "Crown Prince".
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>>14677510
DELETE THIS
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>>14678437
Nobody calls you, either.
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>>14676199

I'd agree but the art got a lot better now.
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>>14678074
I wonder if Star still have that flag, so she can show it to Creampiece latter.
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She's a nice person
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>>14676991
burn the witch
no war but the yokai war
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>>14678998
Eirin confiscated it from them and shows it off at the Eientei lunar expo
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>>14676199
>Even SsiB was better.
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>>14676199
>anyone other than Harukawa and ZUN
>better than Hirasaka
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>>14677551
That's actually what I meant. I'm just too lazy to type out "Clownpiece" every time.
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>>14673209
>in non canon games and manga
Nice headcanon.
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>>14678163
That's just Zun being lazy.
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>>14681754
Or maybe Clownpiss is just one of a kind.
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>>14681761
That's possible I guess but please don't bully Clownpiece's name.
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>>14675986
>in general are absolute assholes who'd set the world on fire if they could.
That's pretty much a good third of the characters of Touhou
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>>14675127
it's been posted ITT already.
Or you can just google Clarste, the translator, and go to his tumblr (fastest links to translations for WaHH, FS, and fairies are there)
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>>14683617
His translations are poor though
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>>14683643
If you can do better, then make some yourself.

He's kind of a smug prick sometimes, it'd be good for his ego to have some competition for once.
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Cumpiece plushie where?
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