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Aigis Event: Swordswoman of the Boiling Sands
http://harem-battle.club/millennium-war-aigis/482-swordswoman-boiling-sand-guide.html

LoV Event: Temael's Lakeside
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Temael%27s_Lakeside

Kanpani Girls Giveaway: Complete Main Quest by December 23rd
http://on.fb.me/1Sj35ER

Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games/
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

Lord of Valkyrie:
>Eng wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wiki
>Jp wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/
>/jp/ player list:
pastebin.com/URgv8JPA
>additional helpful info
pastebin.com/fBcebLvM

Millennium War Aigis:
>Eng Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>Jp Wiki #1:
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/
>Jp Wiki #2:
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>Eng ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png
>Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkAJz5hSVU_zaF0EqLiCKkg

Angelic Saga:
>Eng Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Angelic-Saga
>Jp Wiki
http://angelicsaga.wiki.fc2.com/

Osawari Island:
>Eng Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Osawari-Island
>Jp Osawari wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/
>Osawari chat
http://osawari.chatango.com/
>Jp Alchemy Page
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/d/%cf%a3%b6%e2
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Eng Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Girls-Kingdom

Dragon Tactics:
>Eng Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Dragon-Tactics:-Memories
>Jp Wiki
http://ドラゴンタクティクスメモリー.攻略wiki.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Eng Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Kanpani-Girls
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames
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What level should my team be at before tackling chapter 6?
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So, anyone still got problems trying to play Dragon Providence?

Also, this was posted a while ago: https://twitter.com/tonatsu_iriyama/status/671123806342086657
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>>14429858
I've been wondering for a while, but has everyone been getting the class crystals from the daily advance map only, or is there another way to get them?
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Started Aigis two weeks ago, read up lots of faqs, blogs, wikis to be as efficient a f2p can be.

50CC'ed some silver units I thought are pretty useful but I still get stomped in the 25+ charisma story missions. Is this game considered difficult or is it just a case of me being bad?
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>>14430156
It's pretty easy, you just need to git gud

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>>14430156
CCing your Iris and Katie will help.
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>>14430156
Grind more and CC more
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>>14430156
Should've gone for Bashira first not Daniella, platinum are far better than silvers, other than that you're looking good for someone 2 weeks in.
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>>14430156
Raise golds/silvers to 30, CC Iris, follow videos if you can't beat map.
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Can anyone tell me how useful Echidna is?

I just decided to give up on Anya but can't decide whether to buy Aria/Echidna or just buy the time fairy and wait for the next revival.
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>>14430251
Go with time fairy if you can't get Anya.
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>>14430201
Most blogs I read encourage to CC silvers first since newbies do not have the assets to CC gold+ units. That's why I decided to CC Daniela first.

Also thanks for the input anons. I suppose I'll just tough it out some more.

One last thing, I read that it's recommended for f2p to not roll the gacha and keep the gems for stamina refills during events. Is that a sound advice yes or no?
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>>14430343
Thats not such a bad choice then.
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>>14430343
Yes. In general, 10 or more crystals is a good estimate to save for charisma/stamina refills if you want to have a decent chance of maxing out a particular event unit, as opposed to blowing two rolls on the shrine for some shitty silvers.

You'll also want to buy exp buffs early to help you plow through the first 100 levels, so that your Prince levels quickly and you get the chance to increase your max stamina. Beyond that, focus on expanding your barracks first or saving a few crystals for buffs if events get too tough.

If you still have leftover crystals and there's a spotlight unit you really want, go for it.
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>>14430343
>One last thing, I read that it's recommended for f2p to not roll the gacha and keep the gems for stamina refills during events. Is that a sound advice yes or no?
Best course is to re-roll game till you get at least 1 princess and 1 decent HA. If you are already too far into it with current account and don't want to restart game, its very hard to say what is better.
Nutaku version is castrated, because of lack of gold rushes and missing events, you are not getting many essential gold+ units and gacha is your only source. However, your chances at gacha w/out rl money investment are abysmal, and most likely you will waste your SC on getting completely useless crap, while spending on stamina refills guarantees you desired result.
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>>14430362
Forgot to mention, drop events like Karma's will demand at least ~30 crystals for fully maxing out a unit, but those units are typically the best event units to offer, so that's another thing to keep in mind.
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>>14430388
Karma is pretty much only collection event unit you would absolutely need to max out, and it already passed.
Future collection events:
Imeria — "must have" unit, but you need her for her ability, and it works w/out deploying, so cost and skill are optional. No SC needed for base unit.
Clodia — gimmick princess. Not needed unless you don't have any gacha princesses.
Liana — black healer. If you want to use her, mincosting is essential.
Nagi — black ninja. Ninjas are not very useful, and there's Saki available at TP.
Sera — gold Eretto is available from GR and is generally better, but if you want to use Sera mincosting is very important.
Pipin — funshui are very gimmicky class. Not worth SC.
Etana — black bishop. Cost doesn't matter much. Skill level is somewhat important since you want to skill awaken her as soon as possible (her skill AW is only point making her very good unit), but doable with rainbows/Fes without spending SC on her.
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>>14430362
>>14430372
Alright, to the piggy bank with them crystals.

>>14430420
I'm playing on dmm. Are these events that are scheduled over there? Also, I don't really think my roster will be powerful enough to take part in events for quite some time. I think I'll just try to get the story missions done at a pace I'm comfortable with and CC what I already have.
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>>14430437
Ah, well, for DMM nobody knows what new events we get, and revivals are in form of revival crystals.
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>>14430437
My post >>14430372 isn't valid for DMM too. On DMM all necessary units you can get from trade post for demon crystals or gold rushes, so gacha units are not needed at all, SCs are better be spent on box expansion, second barracks (you accumulate units at insane rates there) and stamina refills (revivals, DC grinding, event units).
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>>14430437
Getting basic event unit without skill up/cost reduction is usually very easy, so you should do that.
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I just got Liana (and Jerome, with Adelle theother day) and I noticed during this event that I don't have good enough healing, I've got a trio of max level Iris, Fedora and Alissa (along with a 50CC40 Christopher)

Should I use a EXP armour on Liana then bump her up to 50CC30 or carry on taking my Mikoto up to 80 from 63?
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>>14430462
Maybe, one day, Nutaku will do the same.
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>>14430420
>Pipin — funshui are very gimmicky class. Not worth SC.

I've found Feng Shui users very useful to reduce environmental damage and do mass heals, but whatever.

>Imeria
When they did her most recent revival, they introduced skill fairies, and her cost isn't so important.
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>>14430490
Can't see it happening considering how they keep removing good units from the game. Even silver ninja Kagerou got axed, despite being fully grown adult woman with boobs.
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>>14430467
I actually tried getting Aria last week, I thought I'd be good if I cleared 4 maps to get her as a basic unit. But it seems I mistook her acquirement conditions so nothing for me. Not tragic though since I've got Katie and they seem to fill the same roles.
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>>14430493
>and her cost isn't so important
Yes, thats exactly what I said too.

>>14430503
Aria is revival unit. Revivals work in different way from normal events, and as new player you have very little chances at revivals w/out paying tons of money.
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>>14430420
>Sera — gold Eretto is available from GR and is generally better.
No. Sera is one of best tank in jp version. I don't know what the fuck are you talking about.
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>>14430519
> tanking with healers
What?
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>>14430525
Outside of golems, she can tank everything, especial magic damage type
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>>14430525
She's a hybrid unit, not specifically a healer. It'd be like saying you won't use battle mages as tanks because they're mages.
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>>14430531
Yes, but her stats as blocker are terrible. If you want to tank stuff, magic armors like Lychee or actual HAs are much better choice.
And unlike Erett you can't force her into heal while blocking mode, so you have to rely on that retarded gimmicky once per 30 secs heal skill.
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>>14430538
For her cost she has great blocking stats. Of course you're not going to use her in the same way as you would a HA/magic armor.

Her normal skill was pretty undesirable, but her AW skill completely fixes that and she was already among the best magic tanks.
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>>14429867
>daily advance
what you mean the class quest? Thats the only place to farm them, really.
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>>14430805
Going to have to save up on employee stones again then. Already on Chapter 5, and I'm getting slaughtered as I haven't been able to evolve anyone yet.

Also who's gotten to play dragon providence. I still can' t actually play the game yet for some reason.
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Did they really replace Kagerou for a silver rogue?
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>>14430878
Yep, no idea why though. It's not like she's a loli like old artwork Mischa.
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Welp, that was a fast drop for DP. Before the issue of voice acting, dialogue lines and sprite artwork... the UI killed it.

>>14429512

Ahh, it's been a while since I heard that exclamation. The same as when I first did that map.

>>14429858

I find that what your gear is like is just as important as what level your employees are. At least, it will be for chapter 7+. Just head over to chapter 6 and be prepared to CEO cheese to get a foothold.

>>14429867

It's also possible to get them from character quests.

>>14430875

Chapter 5 is far too early to be thinking about using class crystals. Shards or ores should be enough.
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I now have 4 recipes that want magical water... and I've never had one drop so far. The usual RNG torture I see.
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Aigis:
guy tell me i'm not the only one getting ass-raped by this event
i can barely 3* the last 3 maps, got a perfect Solano easy enough but this is hell

I feel the need for AW now more than ever...
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>>14431052
If you can 3* them, what's your problem?
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>>14430420
>Imeria — "must have"
What? I never use bandits. When are bandits necessary over either armors or valk/princesses?

>Nagi — black ninja. Ninjas are not very useful, and there's Saki available at TP.
Nagi is a great unit because her cost is low, especially after awakening, but her skill can make her absurdly tanky for a while.

>Pipin — funshui are very gimmicky class.
You say gimmicky, I say the best multitarget healing per second in the game against concentrated AoE while also trivializing maps that use poison/heat/thirst/snow/sandstorms.
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>>14431052
First half of the event was easy enough for my team.

First god-tier event? Not so much. Took six tries (didn't use any reference videos), but I eventually got the 3*.
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>>14431142
>What? I never use bandits. When are bandits necessary over either armors or valk/princesses?
When you deal with golems in magic city story maps.
Imeria makes several bandits have over 4000 hp+def, making them good anti-golem tanks. None of princesses or valks can survive one hit from bigger golems.
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>>14431145
Stop being stupid and upload my pic, 4chan.
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>>14431158
At least all those retries paid off.
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>>14430900
Fuck this shit. Guess I'll stick to grinding Alissa to mincost her.
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>>14431052
Wow, that last X battle has just buttfucked me. I can't handle Horus, and then my decimated team falls to the fucking liches.

Well, at least we have two weeks to level our teams.
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>>14430916
Okay I feel like an idiot now. You don't need all three items to evolve a character do you?
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>>14431325
Nope. I have 8 girls over 70 now and I haven't used a crystal yet.
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>>14431052
>>14431066
well... 1*... wrong key
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>>14431325
You pick 1 of the 3 to use.
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>>14431325
Well. I thought the drop rate of crystals seemed ridiculously low for needing all three parts to class evolve.

I guess I let that 150k exp go to waste on the rest of my party then.

>>14431158
You had trouble with a team like that? Guess it'll be a fun event.
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>>14431576
I thought there might've been a cleaner solution, but looking at other people's 3* videos, I'm seeing a lot of unit switching just to handle the ridiculous rush at the end. Me, I just tried to DPS the fuck out of everything before it got out of control, but I still had to use every last unit to get through.

It's not quite as tight as Flame Beast X was, I think, but it was still pretty hectic in the end.
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Is nutaku still destroying lolis left and right? I need up to date information to properly mock my brother.
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>>14431683
Shiho survived in Nutaku Aigis. Other lolis are still MIA.

Osawari has laid off on the bullshit eyejobs, though the cutest Eromon still got boobjobbed.
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Is this the first time the Prince speaks?
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New Aegis event spoilers.

Looks like a good event to skip if it ends up being a farm event. I've been spending way too many crystals recently and she's not even a cute maido.
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>>14431154
Good job skipping over the word "armors"
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>>14431732
Hm, I wonder what she'll do. I have the other platinum maid but maids are all about their ability, it seems.
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>>14431703
Shit like this was why I quit back when it was just lord of valkyrie and aigis.
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>>14431719
Okay, this isn't even just bad translations, they're not even attempting to keep basic English grammar. It's basically someone translating each word literally and leaving it in the order they appeared and saying that's how English is supposed to be spoken, or read in this case.
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>>14431746
Only 4 HAs can survive one hit from golem, and you get additional problem of multi-blocking, random passerby can easily finish off your HA if its blow is timed with golem's.
Not to mention much higher unit cost.
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>>14431772
You clearly don't know Japanese if you think that's the order the words appeared. People who don't know what they're talking about should shut up. Not to say that Nutaku's practices should be defended.
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>>14431772
When'd the name disappear?

Also, I have no idea what to say anymore. Tried going on to Chrome to play the dragon providence game; not only was it not working, this appeared for Kanpani Girls as well.

I'm fucking using the latest version of chrome, so why the fuck is this message popping up?
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>>14431781
There are plenty of units that can buff armors' defenses as well. There are also other classes like avengers and paladins I've seen used. Personally I delt with the axe golem from the axe golem map by bursting it down with a princess but that was using too many blacks to count.
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>>14431783
You're right, I don't know Japanese, and that's probably not the order the words appeared in, however, there is definitely something wrong here, even if it's just how the sentence is structured.
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>>14431772
> Xcellion
> each word literally and leaving it in the order they appeared
>アンナ、遠征の準備を。
>砂漠の国を救いに行く。
Not surprised. Namefag making ass out of himself again.
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>>14431808
Only just added Ristis can survive axe golem out of all avengers. From Paladins, only black one and only while her skill lasts.
If you further narrow it down to non-gacha units, none of them can do it.
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>>14431819
>Anna, an expidition make ready for.
>The desert kingdom to rescue we go.

they should have translated it that way
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>>14431838
Meanwhile for Bandits, your non Gacha options are either the unit who you "only need for her ability." or spending the resources to awaken and raise two bandits just to use one of them.
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>>14431814
Except there's nothing wrong with it at all.
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>>14431859
>Anna, make ready for an expedition. We go to rescue the desert kingdom.

I'll just go with a phrase that has helped me in my school writing career, "If it sounds weird when you read it out loud, you should probably rewrite it."

In this case, my issue with the translation is in the second sentence the Prince says "We go to rescue the desert kingdom." While technically correct, English grammar is a bitch and hence auxiliary verbs and whatnot like will/can/should/etc. exist. In this case, having the sentence as something like:
>We (will) go to rescue the desert kingdom.
can instantly sound like something decent in terms of English grammar.

In that case, most likely it was the translator forgot to add a word into the text, and for that, it was wrong of me to say something along the lines of what I did.
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>>14431901
this is an incredibly minor error compared to everything else
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>>14431799
i play them all on opera w/o problems
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>>14432005
I'll have to try that then, thank you.
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Tough event. Without pegasus rider or equivalent, this is best I can do no matter what.
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>>14432005
Opera's working like a charm, thanks again.
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Just got her. How well do rogues fare on higher levels?
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>>14432212
Rogues work best for really tanky enemies and boss fights, but they are really fragile.

Shove her in the back row with a weapon that gives Shadow Snake Punch and the poison will cheese the hell out of the victim, most notably 10-7's Siegrid. Might as well add in some direct hit bonuses to make sure the attack connects and evasion bonuses to help with survival.
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>>14431901
I was thinking, "We are going to rescue the desert kingdom" makes the most sense.
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>Spent days farming for gold chests
>Nothing
>Just got 2 gold chests in one go just minutes ago
>They turned out to be material

Now I'm convinced that the RNG hates me.
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>>14431842
I'm ready prince Yoda.
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>>14432538
I know what you mean, 2 weeks trying to get Ann's weapon bp and still nothing. And i should start looking for a poison weapon, chapter 10 is a pain.
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I three starred all the maps and completed the drop bonuses and there's still two weeks to go. This event is such a pushover, at least with the cat I could farm skill fodder for Spica
Are there any worthwhile silvers dropping in this one?
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Farming the hard wednesday dailys is awful, I've been at it almost 2 hours now.
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Got some 7-8 rainbow fairies from the last anniversary map and Raven didn't fail a single skill up, nice.
I'm inexplicably popular with lesbians.
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>>14433232
After 30 runs I still haven't gotten a single rainbow.
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>>14433392
It's the cyclop boss with the axe that drops it. If you're killing it that's really unlucky.
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>>14433398
Yep, it's my shit luck.
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>>14431746
Why the hell are you comparing Bandits and Armors?

You may as well compare Mages and Ninjas next.
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>>14431772
Do you even know English? Neither of those sentences is wrong.

>Make ready for an expedition.
Is perfectly fine.

>We go to rescue the desert kingdom.
Is rather formal, but again, perfectly fine, even more so considering the speaker is a Prince.
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MISCHA ISN'T EVEN A LOLI YOU STUPID CUNTS

REEEEEEEEEEE
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Kanpani girls event when?
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>>14433571
What kind of events does Kanpani have anyway?
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>>14433667
Farm Event Maps for event material item drops.
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Anyone else getting disconnected a lot from Nutaku's Kanpani Girls?
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>>14433769
Yup. Prett much on every 2nd or 3rd loading screen.
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>>14433769
I got "Sever Error" as they call it. Getting disconnected constantly now.
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>>14433566
We can't even get Kagerou in our version. Mischa is cute and has cute animal ears so she's probably hopeless.
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>>14433868
>Kagerou
What exactly is her problem?
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>>14433903
Probably too small boobs.
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>>14434049
Which is stupid since while she has smaller breasts she doesn't look loli at all.
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>>14434069
Did you miss Osawari fiasco?
Nutaku hates everything "weeaboo" and given chance would redraw everything into their favorite western 3d-plastic style.
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>>14434069
>>14434106
http://imgur.com/a/A8GeM#0
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>>14434243
why would you need to remove the lolipops?
they're censoring all the loli-s
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>>14434260
Because candy is only for children. No adult anywhere in the world could ever possibly want a tasty treat like that.
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>>14432538

I think I ate all your luck. I got 6 recipes in the last 36 hours or so.
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>>14433537
Jet mages can melt ninja beams, jews did the holocaust. Discuss.
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Where should I farm for unit XP? Still run Return to Ruins or go for Immortal Beast (3-star'd it recently)?
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>accidentally enter the 90/12 revival map with a team with 4 of the units i use for it missing and a thief in it
>3* it anyway
>can't get enough crystals for the time fairy anyway because i'm hopelessly addicted to gacha
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>>14433537
Because he was saying you needed bandits to tank golems, but armors can also tank golems.
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>>14435088
>armors
Only Miranda from units freemium player can get.
While with Imeria, you can use even Conrad (attainable from GR), and have total 3 cheap UP 1-block units to tank golems.
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>>14435088
To illustrate my point, here is someone tanking golems with only farmable non awoken units. Notice the absence of bandits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faRRAzYccUk
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>Only 338 crystals
>event ends today.
What do I spend it on?! I can probably farm a 100 more. but yea.
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>>14435103
Axe golem is "tanked" with tokens and karma. Not really good illustration.
Yes, Memento and Karma are superior tanks of everything, nobody questioned it. But I for one don't have any of these two, so its either Imeria + any gold+ bandit or Miranda. Since Miranda is also needed to tank non-axe golem, having bandits is essential.
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>>14435088
Which is stupid because, what about the 99% of the time where you're NOT tanking Golems?
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>>14435121
If you still didn't get time fairy, go buy some SCs and grind as fast as you can. She's priceless.
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>>14435137
Bandits are useful for many things. You can tank ogres, kill ogres, kill liches and do many other things you can't do with more brittle units or 3-block units. 10% hp bonus to already 3k+ hp units is one of best class buffs in Aigis.
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>>14435121
60/6.
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>>14435141
And do I keep her til the next Anya event? I mean, I know I can use her on other units. But it just seems like a waste for some reason.

>>14435153
I meant the revival.
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>>14435170
No, at next Anya event you buy second time fairy and use that one for Anya.
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Got 20 queens and 10 plats from 60/60, still have 23 SC left.
Should I grind more fairies or save up SC for further events? We are most likely getting gold rush for christmas/new year, would suck to not have SCs for refills at that time.
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Fucking hell, is Horace drop rate just this terrible or what? I've been spamming the first 5 stam mission and have not gotten a single Horace drop at all
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Final Battle X:

>Horace: Argh we are utterly defeated...

Horace broke through my front lines, the 3rd lich + undead spam killed everything, but I had 2 life left. That's not "utterly defeated" Horace.
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>>14435296
I just realized. Horace is a star trial. I'm a fucking retard
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>>14435296

It's a Star Trial event, anon. She doesn't drop at all.
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>>14435191
Well, we probably aren't going to get such a nice fairy map for a while and we can get some more SCs before Gold Rush.
Still a good idea to save about 20 SC. GR should have many gacha golds and you never know when they might add some cutie for rainbow crystals exchange.
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>>14435308
Play along, Prince. She wants to be utterly defeated.
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>>14435296
> I've been spamming the first 5 stam mission
OMG.
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>>14435308
Hah yes, its so silly how they are all like "ho boy, we won!" when your whole party has been wiped out, and that last lich that slowly shuffles to your point, just isn't enough to bring your two lifes down to zero.
Yup, everyone has been knocked the fuck out, we didn't stop a incredibly powerful lich. Must be a great victory indeed.

What do hearts in this game mean anyway? I'm guessing they mean the grunt units of the army of the Prince that hold the backlines, every monster you let through gets stopped there but at the cost of the fodder that fights them.
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>>14435361
Aigis personally fries their shit, probably.

That ancient lich who just waltzed down your defense line and made his grand entrance into your base won't have much time to feel smug about it, because our god is a hungry god and undead taste almost as good as sacred crystals to her.
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I got 11 minutes left...

100 more crystals to go for time fairy. And 8 SC left. I hope I make it.
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>>14435434
Pretty much no way, I don't think you have enough time even if you 2x the entire way
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Isn't this event supposed to be done with AW units?
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Why did I do this. I knew I didn't have enough time too.
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>>14435472
Man, you had 2 fucking weeks, what were you doing all that time?
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>>14435480
This desu, I had 50 crystals at the start of the event. Already finished this weekend
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>>14435463
You can 3* everything without AW Units.

But since this event happened on DMM after Awakening had already arrived, it was probably made under the assumption that the higher level players had one or two AW units (and so difficulty is set to slightly below that so that the regular people struggle on the harder maps).
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>>14435463
Yes, but its possible to beat without awakened units.

There are no maps in aigis which allow non-aw deployment but cannot be solved w/out aw units, so raise your units, devise better tactics, or if nothing helps, pay for gacha units or pay for buffs.
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>>14435480
I spent most of it grinding the other maps for fairies. I didn't think it was worth the time to farm for it since I could be getting alot of fairies instead. I was just reading this thread and somebody said you had to get it, so well I tried at the last minute.
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>>14435501
Aside from the Fes and Happy fairies, the other fairies aren't necessary unless you have a shitton of units you wanna level. Only the 6 stam map with spirit queens shat out fairies like candy anyways, which only came second week
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>Prince can solo Horace or a king mummy with three healers

Huh. Who knew?

>no drops
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New premium rogue is pretty cute. And she has another one of those annoying + drop rate abilities +2%/4% for silvers(excluding fairies).
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>>14436016
> +2%/4% for silvers
> gacha-only plat
Fuck this shit, why not at least make her gold.
On other hand, its going to affect completion-bonus maps only, I already have over 150 silvers in my 3rd barrack.
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>>14435425
Haha, I'll accept that explaination
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Aigis EN: Are there simpler alternatives for the last 2 maps? Or are those by Nasu already at the absolute easiest level?
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I know decensoring is hard work, but did someone at Nutaku look down their pants, compare this image, and say "Yep, looks about right" ?
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>>14436575
This is SFW board, better delete pic yourself.
> and say "Yep, looks about right"
Osawari girls looked about right for them, so that's some general perception disease plaguing their company.
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Maid star trial time
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Subjugation event with 1001 enemy per map and black armor as reward. Holy fuck.
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>>14436575
I've seen some shit uncensored art in my time but I think that takes the cake
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DMM aigis died?
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>>14436615
>tirred
>need sleep
>wait fo aigis
>open
>see 15 cha
>error
please
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>>14436615
Errors up the wazoo
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>>14436615
It's being slammed right now as everyone wants to see their new Meteor cutie.
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Kanpani. Are there any difference from class hammer from weapon hammer?
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Ran this new subjugation one time. This is most efficient way I ever spent 70 charisma.
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Why did I get a sapphire unit on dmm? Is it part of anniversary or what?
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>>14436868
Yep, gift unit. Enjoy.

Also, hory shit do minotaurs hit hard.
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Is it worth getting barracks after you got all your slot expansions as a f2p? Aigis seems spammy with all kind of units.
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>>14436896
Yep, it is
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>>14436904
Alright, thanks.
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>>14436868
>1 rainbow crystal
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>>14436973
?
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>>14436994
Selling her worth 1 rainbow crystal.
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>>14436998
that is pretty silly
I wonder if anyone is even bothering with rainbow crystals right now. I mean, there's no waifu to be bought with those, yet
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>>14437001
Previous thread had guy selling off his dupe gacha blacks/plats for rainbow crystals.
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>>14437030
>>14437001

Just one awesome husbando. Pricy, though.
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>>14435518
As F2P i'm having problems to get at least 24 stars, i haven't a single premium unit because RNG hates me way to much and i've started during the Odette event. I hate my luck.
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>>14437001
I reached almost 800 with units I didn't care about and would have otherwise eaten during exp events.
I kept Jerobro but he's ready to be sacrificed in case they add some cutie.
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So i just pulled Elizabeth from the gacha, how good is she compared to my archers ? I already have Nanaly/Spica/Bashira/Victoria, is it worth it to lvl her ?
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>>14434843
Someone?
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>>14437456
Go look at the story missions page on the wikia
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wow, I barely got through the 5sta map. Really shitty layout and those minotaurs two-hit my soldiers
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Should I buy the plat cannon for the 200 apology crystals? I only have the silver one and she's not good enough to farm high difficulty thursday dailies
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>>14437481
If you don't have Sandra or AW sailor, sure
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>>14437481
That plat cannoneer isn't going to 1shot the god tier gazers either.
Buy Maurette and skill AW her.
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>>14436575
Haha, that's a mushroom, not a dick.
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Could somebody post the exp chart that shows the amount of increments of platinum armour level ups required to get to max for each rarity?
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aaaaaaaahhhhh
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>>14438147
Doesn't cover Awakened units
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>Enter Dragon Providence.
>Get 3 SSR's and over a half dozen SR's from the gatcha by the time I'm in the second main area.
Well.
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>>14438616
The only real rare ranks are L and LR, you get plenty of R+ using raid tickets.
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Accidentally sold all my Aquamarines and now recipes start wanting them again for cold gear and character weapons. Well, it's an excuse to raise another batch of fresh 2-3* girls to Lv 40.
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how often should I farm blueprints for gear? Every 2nd or 3rd chapter or what?
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>>14438882
talking about kanpani btw
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>>14438883
Lab weapons are good until chapter 7+, Character weapons are better than Lab if 3* or more or in some cases even less than that.
Armors well... if you are lucky to get lab armors you are good to go at side for element armors that require some heavy farming.
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>>14438896
is there any lab route thats recommended for characters lvl 50ish?
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>>14438761

I get Topaz, I get Ruby, I even get Turquoise but Aquamarine just keeps evading the RNG. I'm still blocked on several recipes because of no Magical Water. The pain...

>>14438882

From chapter 6 onwards, I found I was hitting a wall and needed to grind at the first stage of a chapter. While getting EXP I'd get recipes, then I'd push forward after whacking with a hammer (and a sci forge). In principle, CEO cheese will see you through most maps unless your gear is hopelessly out of date.

>>14438896

What path is required for lab armour recipes?
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>>14438937
>>14438909

Lab per se is really easy if you are not willing to go on the lvl 70 route, armors and weapons as far as i know are dropped at random during the route, the boss basically decide what you are most probably getting if you get a gold chest.
This pic should help you out.
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>>14438970
I thought armors are not dropping from non-90+ routes?
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>>14438981
I can't say, i haven't tryied that much myself, still trying to get over chapter 10.
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>>14436575
Let me just point out that some of the illustrators are extremely lazy when it comes to drawing anything that's not a girl. Just look at Mehlis' scenes. It's basically a triangle.
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>>14439139
Or more like artist knows it does not need to be any good as it will get blurred to smithereens.
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>>14439186
That's a good point.
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>>14436608
Only the turbo whales will actually get that black armor. At 900 you have to deal with a thunder and wind god at once, which maybe isn't too bad until the other 99 units they come with show up.
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>>14439354
Fuujin and raijin can be dealt with. Real problem is that untankable red oni king, he deals 4000+ damage at very fast speed when enraged, and has quite a lot of hp, karma skill runs out before you can get him.
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>>14439387
Yes, that's what I meant. And your ranged units won't be doing much damage to the oni king since they'll be busy with all the flying stuff.
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>>14439354
It's definitely possible without being a major whale. You do need a really leveled team compared to previous subjugation missions.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27720205
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>>14439354
Sure, but hope you can get to at least 900 kills - the reward is Themis the plat valk.
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>>14439535
Unfortunately the 900 reward is just the Gold Princess Themis.
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>>14439541
Oh. Not Thetis the crazy lesbian, Themis. Oops.
Well, now I don't feel so bad about not being able to get her.
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So, how does some revivals work? I'm talking about collecting certain drops to perfect a certain unit type of event. For example, if I never perfected Karma at first and I do so in her revival event, would I need to throw away the first Karma for the perfected one, or do some combining shit?
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>>14439612
They change drops for revivals, removing event item and adding revival crystals instead. Then you buy unit for RC in TP.
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>>14439623
For Karma, you can buy her as Regular or Immortal, with Immortal being more expensive.

They also usually charge you less for additional copies of a unit. So for example, 150 RC for Echidna, 100 RCs if you already have her.
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>>14439623
>>14439625
Thanks, anons.
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>>14439632
It's really shitty rates compared to original event though. Especially star trials
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>>14439637
Star trials work the same?
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>>14439640
From what I've seen, every event that isn't a unit farm event becomes an RC event.
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>>14439640
Star Trials work as >>14439623
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>>14439646
You would still get to farm the silver drops, I assume.

Well, that's one more curiosity off my mind.
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What is best story map for unit exp farming?
I'm usually running 拠点争奪戦・後 but also 3-starred 城下町 and 風神退治 now. Their total exp dropped is better (and much more money-efficient), but charisma cost is much higher either.
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Oh man, this desert G map.
If I put down 3 healers, I won't have enough dps remaining, and those three liches are spawning from so far away, they do way too much damage if I just let them waddle their way up to a good melee spot. If I swap one of the healers for an archer or something else, there isn't enough healing available to keep the blockers up.
What do?
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>>14439666
It's pretty easy to divide the exp amount by the charisma cost.
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>>14439797
Yes, but there are no values for exp that I could find. Story maps have different drop rates, you cannot just use max possible gain for such calculations.
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>>14439666
This was posted on ulmf a while ago by that petite soeur guy. No idea how accurate/up to date it is.

Apparently the 66 cost jungle map is the best exp map now.
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Mace + Wand
damm that was a good run
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On ENG Aigis, anyone knows how many cycles before the trading post goes back to Chydis?
I'm lacking a good healer so...
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>>14440942
Nobody knows anything about future of eng Aigis, even nutaku themselves.
Nordland requested TP update like 3 weeks ago and it doesn't look like devs are going to do it.
Maybe they are waiting for canoneer class introduction so they could change Spica to Janna. Maybe not.

During the time Spica is staying in TP on ENG version, JP version cycled through all plat units 2 times already.
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>>14440942
Its been nearly a year since the last cycle...if you can call it that.
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>my 232 slots are filled with tons of silvers
>no crystals for barracks because of anya revival
Life is hard
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Marica still needs leveling but what would be the recommended level for doing the character story of Monique and Ann?

Most of my gears are 2+ tier 5 (except for reduce bracers) and have +2 character story weapons of romana, hilde, and marica.
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>>14441840
For 3-stars characters, level 50 is recommended.
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I just got 3 gold chests from one quest
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>>14442019
Let me guess, all the same BP?
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>>14442070
Nope all different. But not the one I was trying to get
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>>14442129
such is the sadic rng irony
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>>14439819
I don't think anywhere has story mission drop rates. Use your intuition to find the best mission, anon!
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>>14442580
Posting this after >>14439855 is pretty stupid, you know.
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>>14443160
Did you read the text in that picture by any chance?
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>>14443478
Are you now going to claim you don't understand how exp gain specified there is result of multiplying drop rate with max exp and then dividing by char? You can even easily get drop rate values back from these values in table because of class-specific exp listed.
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>>14443513
We aren't sure if the drop rates being used to make that chart are accurate. It's based on some JP aggregate data and not actual data mining.
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>>14443513
I was a different Anon, but it outright states that these numbers are all guesses based on Fuujin Extermination because no one actually knows the drop rates.

Or are are you saying you still didn't bother to read the text even after me pointing that out?
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>>14443571
>but it outright states that these numbers are all guesses based on Fuujin Extermination
No, it doesn't say that, wtf. It said that numbers for last map are inaccurate because of changes after data was collected, learn to read pls.
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>>14443571
Its amusing how you turned "風神退治 is calculated as if 85 75 65 instead 70 80 80" to "these numbers are all guesses" and then dare to call other people "didn't bother to read the text".
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So, Question. Should I awaken Iris or Yuuno?
Iris can heal just by placing her but Yuuno gives a 7% buff to healers just by being in the party, so I'm leaning toward her.
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>>14443698
I went with Yuno first.
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Wow. Had one leftover copy of Lize after spending 4x3 copies trying to get last cost reduction during event. Decided to feed it today, because no point in keeping it, and bam, fucking CR from the only fucking copy. And I already had give up on raising her.
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Man, those fucking pirates hit hard. 1*ed but not by much, missed out on Palace.
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>>14444271
This is where vampire hunters' high defense comes in handy.

>>14443938
Why did you wait?
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>>14444286
>Why did you wait?
I usually get better results with cring via packs of 4, so I thought to wait for revival or use her for skill up of someone else with same skill.
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New GK event, suddenly my defensive battle reports is filled to the brim. Half of these are people that deploy a single nano to check for dragonmaids and then give up because there are dragonmaids.
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>>14444314
There's no good solution for dragons when attacking, so that's what you get for using dragons.
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How common are synthesis events? I'm wondering how long I should wait before CR Katie with the copy I got from the fairy event.
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So Cristopher becomes "Priestess" after CC. CCing is dangerous process in nutaku.
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>>14444319
There's plenty of good solutions. you just gotta remember that defeating them isn't the objective.
3 starred plenty of castles with dragon maids.
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>>14444319
I only had them there still because of the previous event.

>>14444431
Really depends on the castle layout, some times its really easy to just kite them around in some corner while the rest of your troupe does horrible things to their actual castle. Some times thats not an option.
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>>14444333
Should be 'Lich king' instead.

But yeah, it's kind of silly. Same with female mages becoming Warlocks.
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>>14444458
Sometimes I do that. Sometimes I just make them go to various spots attacking one tough unit while the damage dealers do their thing. The tend to switch to the closest unit so If you put them in the opposite area and place units out side of their AOE, you'll slow them down considerably. It also helps that they are slow as molasses So long as you attack in waves you've got it.
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Any tips on how to clear 10-1? My team can't even get through the first 2 monster waves and had to resort to CEO skill to cheese it out, then comes the boss and it just absolutely fuck me in the ass.
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>>14444790
I just ceo cheesed, if you close the game it will finish whatever round it is on and then wait for you to come back. So if you use ceo defense and close window during second round of it when you come back (after you wait 50/100 min for more charges) you will be on 3rd round and before anything happens you ceo defense again, repeat until win. If you use it before that big fight, then close the game during the text and it will work that way too.
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>>14444809
You could do that? I didn't know. Thanks a lot, anon.
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tfw when you get black envelope in free daily and its Azamino there
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>>14445010
Better than me placing my 70+ party in a lvl 20 pr using 3 fairy envelopes and 2 normal and not getting above 2*. Think gotten a total of like 3 3* and no 4*+.
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