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happy trianon anniversary edition
/balt/.
second for Austria
Why did Hungary get split when it was Austria that fucked up, and how did Austria manage to get a piece?
>>60346972
Based France
>>60347059
Referendum in german west hungary. Like 90% of districts voted for Austria and the rest for Hungary so the province was split up.
>>60346972
Have you ever known the feeling of being glad and not glad for Trianon at he same time? Both conflicting in one point: "Hungary"
These are both valid points to me:
>Hungary lost territory. YES!
>Hungary lost territory. Jesus fuck
>>60347067
román cigány
>>60347059
it's because austira and hungary should never join again, dirty french jew tactics
>>60347131
You literally cannot fabricate this
>>60347059
Mauren raus
>>60346972
>when one of the piece of clay you lost is bigger than the remaining country
JUST
could have been much better
>>60347267
then, literally every magyar would have risen up against the treaty like the turks with their treaty, and genocided most of the slovaks and romanians with any object in thier hands so you'd be better of with this I think
>>60347241
si un taco por favor
>>60347430
No they wouldn't. Hungarian army was on dead end at the time
>>60346972
yours oc?
>>60347005
fluffy things are best
>>60346972
Thanks tót
>>60347507
I said everyone not the army, and the army got disarmed by the entente, most of them were intact but the stupid idiotic pussy politians just gave everything to the entente without a fight
>>60347511
no, my oc is usually shit
>>60347537
agreed
>>60347678
that artist is top tier
>>60347430
>t. expert on history
>>60347604
What toppings?
>>60347610
That was correct decision
>>60347698
agreed
>>60347725
>t. without a history
checkmate atheists
>>60347762
for you
>>60347604
>Franta
>>60347537
yes
>>60347809
How many forints do i get for 1 euro?
>>60347960
6 orbálillion
>>60346972
>v instead of V
>no link to the previous thread
No kurwa, jak nie umiesz, to nie ruszaj, dobrze?
>>60347960
you're my brother so I'll give you 160, how's that sound?
>>60347960
>how much monopoly money do I get for monopoly money
>>60347960
>>60348078 don't listen to him he's a dirty jew, he wants to scam you. I'll give you 200 for 1 euro
In retrospective, while trying to be completely objective and not just "muh feelings", should we defend our borders in 38th?
>Sir Gregoire de Gorgon
these cheeky cunts are killing my sides. This DLC reminds me of Witcher 2s lighthearted references
>>60348164
no, I heard if Tiso would made Slovakia an "independent" state Hitler would have split the whole of CZSK between Germany and Hungary
>>60348231
I think they are over using references
>>60348246
*wouldn't have made
>>60348164
We'd get fucked hard
>>60347918
>>60347792
my fellow kinsmen
>>60348246
But hitler wanted independent Slovakia. And it happened. He said if tiso doesnt split from czechoslovakia germany won't defend southern slovakia from hungarian army. He didn't defend it btw
>>60347604
milenáris is a nice place, how much for that hot dog?
>>60348246
Its not like that would change much though, we would still be "opression is gone we can go back to old rails" after the war and unite again.
>>60348164
In retrospective Czechoslovakia should have never existed.
>>60348354
Why would he wanted and independent Slovakia he only cared about the Sudetenland and a balance of power in the regions. Slovakia was to small to do anything even with Felvidék
>>60348164
If France and Britbong did not pussy out we should.
Otherwise no
>>60348490
>t. European history expert
>>60348231
>be Polish
>drop the Witcher series in the middle of the first one
>have no idea what people from other cunts are talking about when they discuss these games
It's a strange feel
>>60348305
Well, at least we wouldn't have münich inferiority syndrome now, and we'd kill few nazis in the process too
>>60348490
Rude and wrong
>>60348522
Pretty positive I lived in Europe longer than you did.
>>60348517
Hitler would just bomb Prage
On the other hand maybe commies wouldn't be able to get into power if the West helped us
>>60348497
Because he didn't want to see Hungary and Poland bordering each other
Karol Sidor, then PM of Slovakia, refused to declare independence. Hitler just got him replaced with Tiso who did.
>>60348497
To weaken czechoslovakia. Slovak army invaded poland with Germany to start ww2. There was also Slovak SS that chased down jews and gypsies
>>60348572
>inb4 your grandparents were born in hungary, thats means you are full blooded arpád descendant
>>60348572
Go to bed grandpa
>>60348490
Why? It was 10x more successful for our countries than AH memekingdom
>>60348622
Don't be shocked I don't take underage retards like you seriously.
>>60348607
And since Czechoslovakia no longer existed, Hitler could invade the remainder of Czechia and establish the Protectorate
>>60348566
>we'd kill few nazis in the process too
well we did that.
and after ww2 we killed even more german civilians. Pretty sure we killed more of their civies than they killed ours so its all good desu
>>60348586
>Because he didn't want to see Hungary and Poland bordering each other
That makes no sense, Poland was occupied by Germany anyways
>>60348664
You're the retard here tho
>>60346972
VESSZEN TRIANON
>>60348517
well in that case obviously, i am talking about CZSK x Germany thing. Technically we could get Polish support, which would trigger the whole German/Soviet invasion of Poland, which would spark the WWII bit sooner. Theoretically we could hold on lets say month before brits and frogs became un-retarded and swoop in for help, and with Germany getting gangbanged WWII would end in less than a year.
Just saying the best case scenario that could happen.
>>60348672
In the grand scheme of things he couldve done it even if we didnt split. But making Slovakia satelite even before war began was excellent move
>>60348648
>stopped existing after 20 years
>couldn't defend against Hitler
>recreated
>couldn't defend against communism
>communism over
>dissoluted again
Mad example of success right there. Outside of Yugoslavia it's hard to find a country that fell apart not once but TWICE within 60 years.
>>60348707
It does make sense because these events happened in March 1939
Poland was attacked in September
>>60348566
>Well, at least we wouldn't have münich inferiority syndrome now
Except we would
You can take Prekmurje back. I don't know why we took it anyway. Everyone's last surname is Horvat over there and it was part of the Zagreb bishopy.
At least we cucked the Croats from bordering Austria I guess.
>>60348745
>we could get Polish support
Fucking Poles took some of our land in 38, why would they support us?
are slovakians hungarians who speak a slavic language or is it viceversa?
>>60348848
yes
>>60348745
>Technically we could get Polish support
No, we couldn't. Poles were happy that they got Těšínsko from us
They were hostile
>>60348745
>Technically we could get Polish support,
no we could not. Poles hated us and were glad that nazis invaded us
>>60348580
>Hitler would just bomb Prage
we would bomb them first :^)
maybe. Maybe our united forces would be able to hold them off. Germany was really weak in 1938. Way weaker than France and UK though
>>60348783
How exactly?
The whole syndrom is based on us feeling irrelevant because of west ignoring our deals and powerless because of how we let germans overrun us without a single shot in return.
>>60347809
Slovaks have history. They're White Croats
>>60348769
well you cant expect small country surrounded by enemies on all sides to hold off against half of Europe can you? Same with us vs whole USSR. Even Americunts did not want direct conflict with them what the fuck do you expect from us
>>60348769
Yes. Its success wasnt in longetivity but getting independence. And during it short life both countries only improved. Communism and nazi invasion was impossible to avoid. Czechoslovakia was only success. Not to mention we were football and hockey powerhouse
>>60347430
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian%E2%80%93Romanian_War
Actually we made sure you wouldn't do that, nothing personnel.
>>60348825
>>60348885
>>60348893
Enemy of my enemy is a friend, Hitler was greater enemy than us for them, and we had the Czechia+Poland+France treaty about guaranteeing Germany's eastern border, so there was a legitimate obligation as well. They probably wouldn't, but there was the possibility they could help.
>>60348893
>we would bomb them first :^)
our planes were complete shit compared to German ones
>>60348898
>How exactly?
Münich would still happen, West would ignore us again (and consider us the aggressor), and we'd still be powerless against Germans even if we tried to fight
>>60348906
but White and non white Croats like you are Czechs...
>>60348789
and yet you are telling us that the međimurje is also slovenian
fucking slovejews REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>60347809
if you say slovaks have no history that means you are saying hungarians have no history
for the most part we shared history fagit
>>60348769
Nice arguments you fat fuck
>>60348398
Erzsebet ter desu.
1350 orbandollars
>>60348893
Our only hope after Munich was the USSR
Red Army was mobilised and there were tensions with Poland during that time
That was before Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and before Germany focused on Poland
Czechoslovakia had defence treaties with France and Soviet Union
>>60347430
>and genocided most of the slovaks and romanians
you tried to to that pisti and you failed lmao
why do vegans even exist?
when did this retardation start?
>>60349105
>Czechoslovakia had defence treaties with France and Soviet Union
But USSR was supposed to help us only if France did as well iirc
>>60349036
Istria, Zagorje and Gorski Kotor are also ours.
k thnx
>>60348164
it's not like we didn't try to prepare but brits and frogs just threw us to hitler to buy some time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovak_border_fortifications
>>60348990
>getting independence alone is regarded as success
So Kosovo is also a successful "country"?
>sports
Meme argument. Moreover, Austro-Hungarian football team would be composed of Hungarians, Slovaks, Czechs, Croats, some Romanians, some Ukrainians and some Poles. That only increases the chance of success.
>>60349066
Don't remember being interested in your input.
>>60346972
I know an old woman from Burgenland (German West-Hungary back then) who said the Hungarian paramilitaries shot her father to a cripple, destroyed the house and were constantly harassing the civilian population. Apparently the Hungarian niggers used criminals to fill up the ranks of the paramilitary units.
Never forget
>>60349010
You don't understand.
Germany and Poland had a non-aggression pact. They wouldn't have helped us.
It all went to hell after France betrayed us in Munich
>>60349026
It would be completely different.
Right now we got sold and used like a woman, which makes us feel like one.
If we would fight back, we would get sold out, but we would defend ourselves. Basically it would end up something like "everybody hates us, everybody is our enemy, we can only trust ourselves attitude". Instead of losing confidence in ourselves, we would lose confidence in everybody else. Imo.
>>60349206
Don't remember asking your opinion about Czechoslovakia.
>>60349031
That's an outright and cheeky lie. We wuz Avars/Slavs, kings and other stuff. Slovaks are real Croats, pure, haven't mixed with cheeky Avars and Illyrians/Vlachs
They will carry on the Croats on once we die
>>60349161
Exactly. That's why there was no hope.
>>60349120
>A superiority complex is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person's feelings of superiority, counter or conceal his or her feelings of inferiority.
>>60349268
>Croatdom*
>>60348769
>americunt trying to talk about european history
gets me every time
coo-ee :^)
>>60349268
>Slovaks haven't mixed with Vlachs
They have.
>>60348848
I'd say hungarians are slovakians who speak a hungarian language
t. armchair anthropologist
>>60349231
>Germany and Poland had a non-aggression pact
I'd like to see some sauce on that. Because that really doesn't go well with Germany invading Poland not even year after.
>>60349302
so thats why vegans exist
ty
>>60349302
sounds very similiar to welcoming refugees desu
Why do most of the Hungarians look straight up like gypsies?
I mean, I seriously cannot tell them apart. This is not a banter, mind you, Slovakia doesn't have many pretty faces either, but when I go to Nagykapos, I'm unsure from whom I'm buying stolen vegetables and meat,
until they open their mouths.
Tešik for listening
>>60349120
Don't YOU wanna be special, and tell everybody 24/7 about how special YOU are, and how terrible other people are?
>>60349340
good of you to join, we're just talking about how much of a fucking bitch your country was
>>60349441
its funny you mention that because very often vegans are like that. its like one complete package
>>60349387
>Germany
>sticking to treaties
>>60349378
are Vlachs proud sons and daughters of Rome ?
>>60349387
did you know that Germany and USSR also had non aggression pact? Its almost like Germany is not good at keeping promises
>>60349387
>Poland refused to accept these demands. As a consequence, the non-aggression pact was unilaterally abrogated by Adolf Hitler on April 28, 1939
A month after invasion into Czechia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact
>>60349496
>are Vlachs proud sons and daughters of Rome ?
Da
>>60349496
>are Vlachs proud sons and daughters of Rome ?
More like Romanians pre-gypsification.
>Czechs and Slovaks call the Munich Agreement the Munich Diktat (Czech: Mnichovský diktát; Slovak: Mníchovský diktát)
Literally never heard that
>>60346972
>hurr durr why do Hungarians always complain about trianon
>makes a trianon thread
>>60349593
You didn't pay attention in school then
>>60349206
Czechoslovakia was created solely to gain independence. They memed about czechoslovak identity and it worked.
Also, i don't fucking magyars or krauts in my national team. Czechs are okay cause we are bros
>>60349561
true
they escaped romania before the disaster
>>60348769
>>couldn't defend against Hitler
most of Europe couldn't
>>dissoluted again
politicians did that, majority of citizens were not for dissolution
>>60349593
Are you 5?
>>60349709
>>60349644
Gals, not everybody finished primary school this year and remembers the shit from there.
My point is that its not used at all in common speech. When talking about it i either hear dohoda or zrada
>>60349702
Majority of the citizens were not for creating Czechoslovakia either, nobody asked them, there was no referendum.
>>60349561
I'm a "Croatized" Morlach and I can tell you there is little difference between Gypsies and us lmao. We're both brown, but Vlachs are taller and sturdier, at least here
Kadinski are you still working out?how is it going?
>>60349561
are pre gypsy Romanians proud sons and daughters of Rome ?
>>60349792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5NcwR47v2c
Seems like people were happy about creation of Czechoslovakia
>>60349660
Krauts are a part of Slovak history, like it or not.
>>60349792
majority of citizens were not for getting cucked into AH either. Not everything needs referendum
>>60349792
So what. Czechoslovakia was never planned to last. It served its purpose well and was 100% succesful
>>60349702
don't answer him when you are retarded
we couldn't defend against Hitler, because the moment we did, literally whole world would condemn us. We would be 1on1 taking the whole Germany, possibly supported by Italy. Basically the opposite of what USA did, coming after 4 years of warfare, when Germany had to fight another 20 nations, to collect the crumbs.
And everybody wanted the dissolution, main thing is there was nothing wrong about it, just murriretards want to see big nations since they can't remember two names.
>>60349943
So what? I still don't want them in my national team
>>60346972
thats a fuckin disgrace to humanity and you make fun of that. MINDENT VISSZA
>>60346972
Hungary deserved to lose territory to Yugoslavia but that's only it desu
>>60349920
>Hungarian representatives ask for a referendum in Slovakia, it gets cathegorically dismissed by the Entente representatives in Paris, Slovak monarchists get excluded from negotiations
>Poland tries to get a referendum going in Teschen Silesia, Czechoslovak government sends in troops to annihilate any sort of dissent
>Sudetenland Germans declare they want to be a part of Austria, Czechoslovak government ignores them
Tyrannical shithole if there ever was one.
>>60349845
I'm currently on a cut, so it's shit.
I don't care about not eating carbs and crap like that, or generally just eating deficit, but it bums me out that I'm loosing muscle mass. I have to force myself to eat 200g of protein a day to at least slow down the process, but it ain't helping out.
Whatever though, git three more months ahead of me and then I'll go on a normal maintaining diet, to build my muscle back.
How about you family, do you work out?
>>60350099
t. Croat
>>60350135
Thats what you get if you treat your minorities like shit
>>60350135
>Hungarian representatives ask for a referendum in Slovakia, it gets cathegorically dismissed by the Entente representatives in Paris, Slovak monarchists get excluded from negotiations
Don't know about that tbqh
>Poland tries to get a referendum going in Teschen Silesia, Czechoslovak government sends in troops to annihilate any sort of dissent
That's not what happened
>Sudetenland Germans declare they want to be a part of Austria, Czechoslovak government ignores them
Wtf was the government supposed to do with those retards? We should've hanged them when we still had the chance
>>60350144
I thought you were doing low carb. You should not lose muscle mass with 200g of protein unless you are doing shitload of cardio. Do you take supplements ? BCAAs could help
I did not work out since I fucked up my leg but I want to start again next week if everything goes well. Cant decide between just bodyweight + fucking around with kettlebell or paying jews for gym again desu
>>60350135
>Sudetenland Germans
>>60350135
>>Poland tries to get a referendum going in Teschen Silesia, Czechoslovak government sends in troops to annihilate any sort of dissent
thats not what happened
>>Sudetenland Germans declare they want to be a part of Austria, Czechoslovak government ignores them
yeah its like country does not want to give its natural defensive lines to its enemies. Strange huh ?
>>60349980
>don't answer him when you are retarded
quite ironic coming from you
first of all learn to fucking read,
now, where have i said we should have defended? slovak in burgerland was telling us inability to defend ourselves from germany was a failure when there was only a few nations, all of them much bigger than us, that could defend themselves against germany
>literally whole world would condemn us
for defending ourselves? are you demented? when we have defensive treaties in place and germany is clearly the agressor?
>We would be 1on1 taking the whole Germany, possibly supported by Italy
we had defensive treaties that were supposed to be upheld but frogs and brits took shit on them, how were we supposed to know?
>And everybody wanted the dissolution
>in a September 1992 poll, only 37% of Slovaks and 36% of Czechs favoured dissolution.
>>60350332
>Don't know about that tbqh
The only monarchist present at the negotiations was Frantisek Jehlicka and he was only there because tagged along with Hlinka. It's pretty much a meme that Slovaks as a whole wanted to join Czechoslovakia, only a handful of intellectuals propped up by France did. France didn't allow a referendum in the upper kingdom precisely because they knew it would go in Hungarian favor. All those panslavist and czechoslovakist retards like Stur and Stefanik would be forgotten by history if Austria-Hungary didn't lose the war, they were marginal.
>We should've hanged them when we still had the chance
Like I said, tyrannical shithole.
>>60349442
I could understand the girl, but the guy doesn't look gypsy at all desu
>>60349660
>Also, i don't fucking magyars or krauts in my national team.
Gib felvidék and you won't have them
When you accept all that clay you accept people living on it too
>>60350462
>when we have defensive treaties in place and germany is clearly the agressor?
Yes thats what would happen. UK and Frenchies made that clear. If we are gonna defend sudetenland we will be seen as the ones responsible for start of war
>>60350617
We shouldve shot them or exile them like czechs did with germans
>>60350462
first of all, holy fuck you know shit about history
second of all, of course we couldn't fucking defend ourselves, thats like blaming Latvia for not being able to defend against fucking russia. Small nations have diplomacy to defend themselves. We lost our ability to defend because we were betrayed by the people we had treaties with and they turned it all around. Thats the true reason why we couldn't defend against Hitler.
third of all, they would fucking condemn us, thats what the whole fucking Munich deal was about. God damn, at least read the fucking wikipedia before posting.
fourth, we had no treaties with brits
fifth, now look at number of how many czechs and slovaks refrained from voting and how many voted against. Learn some fucking information clarity you dumbass.
hungary really got fucked man. I think they at least deserve the hungarian enclaves in surrounding countries. Especially transylvania. Idk how they would work it out with all the enclaves and exclaves but it just aint right the way it is
>>60350357
Yeah, that's what I meant, I'm on a low carb and it's quite alright, I'm not missing any refined sugars or bread.
Got 1600 kcal a day, but I sometimes do 1800 kcal to hit my macros and sweat those 200 kcal out.
As for the supplements - I take classic shit like Vitamins, Fish oil and I take caffeine pills as a pre workout.
I don't really take BCAA since my body cannot really handle overload of amino acids that well, but I may try it again, after all I had Mutant brand and that shit ain't candies son
And for your last concern - it purely depends on what you wanna do. If you are cutting, bodyweight's enough.
If you are maintaining or bulking, you gotta go to the Goldstein's Oy Vey gym, or buy a home gym for about 700 shekels
>>60350779
we did exile some of them
>>60350586
godamnit
>>60350874
>home gym for about 700 shekels
700 eurocommie meme money? I would pay that if I was living in my own house desu
>>60350873
>deserve
They lost, they don't deserve anything
>>60351099
personally i would've been ok with '45 borders if horthy wasn't hell-bent on killing every single romanian in ardeal
>>60351099
they deserve the entire country of slovakia 2bh
or at least partitin it with the czechs
>>60351027
Pretty much
Rack + bench is about 500 pepperonies, several bars with weights is less than 150, and you can buy additional equipment for that 50 buckerinos, like dumbbells and such.
Actually I'm gonna work out now, see you memesters tomorrow
What do Hungarians think of Kurultáj?
>>60351171
>Czechs having any claim to upper Hungary whatsoever
Get fucked.
>>60351099
>be most successful country in a region for over thousand years
>get dragged into one shitty war that you lose
>lose 60% of your territory
seems fair
>>60351297
Post routine
>>60351099
You lost with us friendo. The reason for the butchery was not that we were bad boys, or bc they wanted to help the poor minorities, but that the usa, britain and the ussr wanted to fracture europe as much as possible. This was they could exert the maximum amount of power.
>>60351413
You forgot to mention France which was by far the worst offender.
>>60350135
>Poland tries to get a referendum going in Teschen Silesia, Czechoslovak government sends in troops to annihilate any sort of dissent
Poles: organizing self declared referendums 95 years before Russians
>>60351413
this
get fuk'd yurop lol
>>60350625
>Yes thats what would happen. UK and Frenchies made that clear. If we are gonna defend sudetenland we will be seen as the ones responsible for start of war
wrong, do you also think that Serbia was an agressor in WW1?
>Czechoslovakia was informed by Britain and France that it could either resist Nazi Germany alone or submit to the prescribed annexations. The Czechoslovak government, realizing the hopelessness of fighting the Nazis alone, reluctantly capitulated (30 September) and agreed to abide by the agreement.
>>60350860
>God damn, at least read the fucking wikipedia before posting
it isn't mentioned anywhere in the wikipedia page about munich agreement
>now look at number of how many czechs and slovaks refrained from voting and how many voted against
give the percentages then, i didn't find any
>>60351171
nope
maybe if they werent such retards to slovaks
>>60351360
Monday:
-Chest
-Triceps
Tuesday:
-Core
-Glutes
-Quads
Wednesday:
-Shoulders
-Forearms
-Biceps
Thursday:
-Chest
-Triceps
Friday:
-Core
-Glutes
-Quads
-Calves
Saturday:
-Box/Kickbox
Sunday:
-Shoulders
-Biceps
-Forearms
I have exercises written down in my head, it would take me an hour to name all of them.
I basically do high rep low set routine atm, when I stop cutting I'll go low rep and mid set
>>60351657
Oh I also do back on Mondays and Thursdays
>>60351657
>overtraining
>>60351657
aren't you supposed to have a rest day or is that a meme?
At least Italy prevented the Slavshit corridor
That would have been the icing on the cake of exorbitant clay grabbing
>>60351299
heard about it and looks fun, but never went, it's probably full of obnoxious extreme right wingers
>>60351657
Are you gonna buy weights when you are done with your cut?
>>60351514
wow you actually went and checked
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement#Resolution
>Czechoslovakia was informed by Britain and France that it could either resist Nazi Germany alone or submit to the prescribed annexations.
Apparently at that time, czechs were 60% against, 23% for, Slovaks 60% for, couldn't find rest of the info. Guess i was wrong, not everybody wanted it, but Slovaks did and you were the ones who split from us, so thats what mattered.
>>60351825
Austria would be less shit with Czech corridor desu
>>60351770
Pretty much a maymay, you would overtrain if you worked out crazy hard twice a day.
Saturday's pretty much my rest day though.
>>60351762
If I feel like I'm starting to burn up I take a day off
Also dumb frogposter
>>60351867
Nah, I'll just go to the gym. It's only 10 bucks a month
>>60351981
>t. third world country
>>60351996
Damn 10 euro is cheap as fuck desu
>>60352216
Exactly. With Czech corridor you could be second world country
>>60352216
We should have rolled over you like we were already doing before the Brits and Americans went haywire with "what the fuck the war's over you dumb faggots" shtick and organized a shitty biased referendum.
Then you'd know what clay stealing really is.
>>60351978
>wow you actually went and checked
if it's there it must be well hidden, i CTRL+F words war, start, agressor, condemn, belligerent, cause and nowhere near them was anything mentioned about us being the 'bad' guys so to speak
>Guess i was wrong, not everybody wanted it, but Slovaks did and you were the ones who split from us, so thats what mattered.
in our history books we had a small chart with percentages and about 1/3 wanted to separate and rest were about more equal state, also it wasn't Slovakia splitting off the federation but the whole federation was dissolving so czechs also mattered, however the fault is on our politicians side
>>60350173
actually I support Greater Serbia
>hungry hungarians hungering for clay
hahahahahah
>>60352469
Equally retarded.
>>60352331
Not my fault that most people including almost half of Slovenians didn't want to be a part of Yugoland
Hungarians have their own thread; quick post slavspeak.
>>60352583
>didn't want to be
Yeah, let's just forget about the roaming columns of Austrians coming from north to vote. Let me ask, have you unpeached the documents regarding it in Vienna yet? Thought so.
Besides, it was utter bullshit that such a plebiscite even took place. We literally had troops in Klagenfurt/Celovec and the deal was pretty much set with Austria unable to solve it militarily at that point but the US and UK got involved and forced the referendum on us.
And it was pretty much clear from the start that we'll lose, when the american "advisors" decided that the territory "can't be split" because some bullshit economic reasons.
Imagine World without Austria
No ww1
No ww2
No current SJW bullshit
No refugees invading Europe
>>60352359
we weren't "bad guys" so to speak, but neither was Hitler. His claims about ethical germans living in CSR were right. We are actually kind of lucky WWII happened, by nowadays rules, we actually should have lost Sudetenland.
They didn't condemn us like the bad guys, they just left us on our own, against much bigger country. Like i said, it was diplomatical loss.
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z%C3%A1nik_%C4%8Ceskoslovenska
https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozdelenie_%C4%8Cesko-Slovenska
>17. července 1992 přijala a vyhlásila Slovenská národní rada dokument Deklarace Slovenské národní rady o svrchovanosti Slovenské republiky, který vyslovuje požadavek samostatnosti Slovenska.
>Po prijatí Deklarácie o zvrchovanosti už nebola možnosť prijať tzv. "funkčnú federáciu", teda centralizovaný model federácie, presadzovaný českými politikmi, a tak došlo k dohode medzi vládou Slovenskej Republiky a Českej Republiky k rozdeleniu ČSFR na dva samostatné štáty.
>60% Czechs against splitting
>60% Slovakians in favor of splitting
The way i see it, it was all about Slovaks. Czechs mostly wanted to keep the federation together, politicians and people alike, but Slovaks wanted out.
>>60353021
Imagine world without Czehchia.
Nothing changes.
>>60353107
Imagine a V4 thread without Portu(refu)guese niggers aidsing in it on a daily basis. EVERYTHING changes.
>>60353107
Imagine world without Poortugal.
World would be cleaner place
>>60352861
>Yeah, let's just forget about the roaming columns of Austrians coming from north to vote. Let me ask, have you unpeached the documents regarding it in Vienna yet? Thought so.
What is this allegation based on? The result wasn't even close anyway
>Besides, it was utter bullshit that such a plebiscite even took place.
Yeah, dumb idea to ask the people what they actually want
>>60353067
>, by nowadays rules, we actually should have lost Sudetenland.
By nowaday rules Germany,France and UK should lost its territory to various shitskins too
>>60353579
>nowaday rules
>nowaday rules
pick one
>>60353534
>What is this allegation based on?
On the reports and the fact Austria still refuses to release documents pertaining the plebiscite.
>Yeah, dumb idea to ask the people what they actually want
Yeah, cause Austrians used to do that, right?
>self determination for us and only us
literally hitler, triggered desu
>>60353617
Then I pick nowaday rules. What now
>>60353067
>60% Slovakians in favor of splitting
this is not in either wikipedia page, you probably misunderstood this
>Voľby v júni v roku 1992 skončili tak, že vyhralo HZDS 37,26 %, SDĽ 14,70 % a SNS 7,93 %. Tieto tri strany mali teda spolu 59,89 % hlasov
the parliament coalition which declared independent slovakia got 60%, but yes you are right we ruined the thing
>>60353659
Now we eat Deli.
>>60353708
>Na Slovensku sa v roku 1991 dostala do popredia diskusia o prijatí Deklarácie zvrchovanosti Slovenskej Republiky. Prijatie tejto deklarácie podporovali HZDS, SDĽ a SNS.
>Voľby v júni v roku 1992 skončili tak, že vyhralo HZDS 37,26 %, SDĽ 14,70 % a SNS 7,93 %. Tieto tri strany mali teda spolu 59,89 % hlasov.
ergo 60% were for splitting
>>60351825
damn, that would be the ebinest country ever, south is just so comfy and lively
>>60353817
>ergo 60% were for splitting
not everybody goes to vote, not every voter agrees with every program point of a party
r8 my northern empire
>tfw Hungary owns half of Russia in vassals
>>60353914
oh, you're right, i didn't realize it was percentage of voters, not of population. But i guess splitting up was basically the biggest deal when dealing with politics back then.
>>60354002
>But i guess splitting up was basically the biggest deal when dealing with politics back then.
most likely, kinda sad how we had a nice thing going but zlovaks had to ruin it, at least we have double the potential in ice hockey championships
>>60353708
Meciar and HZDS actually started out as federalists, only later budged towards independence.
>>60353934
this gave me autism
>>60354120
can't really blame them, though, pepiks in Prague were always very centralist and didn't understand how to run a federation
>>60353641
>On the reports
Which? And probably it wouldn't have made a difference anyway because it wasn't a close vote
>self determination for us and only us
Are you projecting by any chance? After the dissolution of AH the new states were formed under the principle of national self determination. They had been granted this right by the victors eventually but didn't want to grant it to their own minorities. So "self determination, but only if it suits us" sums up pretty well the mentality of the AH successor states.
EVERYONE GTFO IN HERE
SZEKLER FALG TAKEN DOWN
>>>/pol/76098784
>>60354084
i still feel like our countries have the closest relationship there is between countries
>>60354469
>i still feel like our countries have the closest relationship there is between countries
>>60353817
Sure, HZDS and SNS, but since when was SDĽ nationalist?
>>60353067
Not really. Klaus was a big piece of shit.
He was glad that you got rid off "lazy" and "leftist" Slovaks.
Mečiar was even worse ofc
>>60354240
>because it wasn't a close vote
Yes it was, there were 2 regions lad.
>After the dissolution of AH the new states were formed under the principle of national self determination
You and I both know that's a load of bullshit. Neither Yugoslavia, Romania, Czechoslovakia or even Austria was formed on the basis of national self determination (German Austria anyone?).
> So "self determination, but only if it suits us" sums up pretty well the mentality of the AH successor states.
I was talking before >we lost the war dingus.
>>60354732
>leftist Slovaks
Meanwhile in a parallel reality
>>60354821
That's what people in ODS were saying back then
Leftist as not neoliberal, I guess
![1796_992890317457556_7217973116216096317_n[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1W1RX2O.png "1796_992890317457556_7217973116216096317_n[1].png")
>>60354732
>Klaus
>>60354559
>panties arent blue
you had one job
![12768165_980326158713972_4818043173329587519_o[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YXbI2oW.jpg "12768165_980326158713972_4818043173329587519_o[1].jpg")
>>60354732
>lazy and leftist Slovaks
>>60354739
>Yes it was, there were 2 regions lad.
Only the southern zone voted though. And 60:40 is not exactly close.
As for self determination, both the independence activists and the entente powers justified the dissolution of AH with this parole. (Obviously, for the latter it was mostly about getting allied client states in the region.) So if you cut up a state along national lines you might as well do it consequently.
>>60355343
>you had one job
>complains, doesn't fix it himself
a fine slovak specimen
>>60355512
>every critic is obliged to fix what he is criticising
a fine slovak specimen
>>60355544(czeched)
>what you did
>criticising
pick one
>>60355429
Am I the only one here who loves Klaus?
NEM NEM SOHA
>>60355439
>And 60:40 is not exactly close.
59:41 and a fucking retarded lopsided region that smelled of gerrymandering, and yes, that is close.
>if you cut up a state along national lines you might as well do it consequently.
What does this even mean?
>As for self determination, both the independence activists and the entente powers justified the dissolution of AH with this parole. (Obviously, for the latter it was mostly about getting allied client states in the region.)
And we weren't a client state, we were regularly disadvantaged due to Italy being a shit.
A personal friend of Wilson (a fucking Serbshit at that) had to fucking beg him to intervene as the border was at first intended to be more south than even the present one and, for example, Bled would have been included into Austria.
>>60355626
>everyone is obliged to undo whatever he is [verb] about
happy now, slovak specimen?
fixed
>>60355657
>extrémistov
>>60355712
fake and gay (like ur country)
>>60348960
You were more numerous and developed than Finland but you didn't even care to try anything. Even your bestest of friend Poland took your clay without you trying to stop them
>>60355690
how have you been spending this fine saturday planeanon?
is it me or has the thread finally gotten bearable since the end of summer? it was filled with avatarfagging, anime, drama and other shit
this looks like the good old /v4/ i fell in love with 3 years ago
>inb4 avatarfagging, anime and drama bullshit
>>60355919
not me
>>60356009
how have you been spending this fine saturday fine slovak specimen?
>>60351099
Neither do you. Hiding in mountains and only coming into the cities when you were allowed to by your betters
>>60355638
http://zpravy.idnes.cz/rozhovor-klaus-havel-byl-reformni-komunista-f39-/domaci.aspx?c=A141031_173934_domaci_wlk
>>60356039
programming and doing fuckall because the semester is over
what about you
>>60355952
You must not come here often.
Wtf there are literally no Poles in this thread
>>60356129
this thread looks fine and every time i randomly checked in it was just filled with cancer and femanon shit
>>60356096
>programming
tell me more
>what about you
attempting to look like i am studying, helping around the house, watching some gsg videos
>>60356144
also small amount of hungarians, maybe that is why it seems quite nice
>>60356050
We deserve it. Its our rightful clay. Blatnohrad proves it
>>60355657
are hungarians holding butthurt rallies in slovakia too?
this time of year they didn't do shit
>>60355839
Finland had forests and winter on its side and you were attacked only from a single direction
Czechoslovakia was attacked by Germany, Hungary and Poland
>>60356050
wtf we arent jews
we were equal to hungarians before retards started doing retarded things
>>60356298
No, there wasn't anything in Slovakia
>>60356213
writing netcode for my shit game but i think i will drop the project because networking is shit
