best girl edition
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>>59125976
Last thread had 306 posts, so the bump limit wasn't even reached. You forced it just to spam this "best girl edition".
>>59126048
bump limit is 300 ros, now fuckoff
>>59126068
310 retardo
>>59126068
Do you see "Replies: 301" written in Italic? NO.
But you see "Replies: 311" written in Italic.
>>59126078
since when ?
>>59126091
all i see is gypsy butthurt, because you missed to make a thread with some gay gypsy landscape or some irrelevant shit in romania
just fuck off ros
Good morning gypsybois
>tfw I'm leaving for Cr*te today
>>59126112
I wouldn't even make one, I just say it is pointless to make a new one before 330 posts (when it reaches page 6-7).
>>59126130
fuck off ros stop giving me (You's)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYOXhNR0bj8
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>>59126198
>be in Straya
>be rich n shiet
>have so much free time that you can make some shit like that in the style of "We wuz"
I wish i was diaspora
>>59126123
What are you gona do there summer job?
>>59126244
Last month of uni and then f*nals
>>59126275
Last month of school and then e*eventh grade...
After 3 months of NEET life
>>59126330
NEET would imply out of education, he is a schoolboy, although in summer vacation.
Ohrid: 365 churches, a church for every prayer, for every day of the year
albo capital of Sk*pje: 1825 mosques, a mosque for every prayer, for every day of the year
>>59126366
Wasn't it 1095?
>>59126363
Although I dislike school, it gives me an opportunity to leave the house.
Summer is borderlin depression tier for me, I haven't evolved that much to be able to withstand the NEET life.
>>59125976
КE TE УTEПAM, MAКEHЦE.
I shit on skopia and skopians have sprouted. Some of them migrated to Australia, worked their asses off and made a meme video in which they cosplay as ancient Greeks
I couldn't have been more proud for my evolved turds. Everything cool comes from us
>>59126229
What is it with all makkes in Australia
>>59126690
>I don't like going out
>I don't like staying home
so shqips went out to protest yesterday, with each passing year they look more civilized, not bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9cRLhdgJsQ
>>59126866
Best country
>>59126993
Void would be enough for me tbqh.
>>59127021
o bradmi
>>59126093
Since I came in your mum's anus.
Twice.
>>59127142
Top kek, how do they come up with these abominations
>>59127021
>too white
>no isis flags
fuck off with your editing trickery
>literally the last GoT episode was ~50 minutes of nothing
thanks producers, I need that time back
Attention /balk/ers
Attention /balk/ers
It's time for camp Corfu!
Shkodran and Sashko made a friend
And Corfu was his name-o
C-O-R-F-U
C-O-R-F-U
C-O-R-F-U
And Corfu was his name-o
And then the trio went to /balk/ and turned it upside-down-o
C-O-R-F-U
C-O-R-F-U
C-O-R-F-U
And Corfu was his name-o
Yodelay-hee
>>59127807
Missandei might be a Faceless Man
![Internet_serious_business_bush[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CTHxjRE.jpg "Internet_serious_business_bush[1].jpg")
Today in /balk/s geopolitics debate club: EU sanctions against Russia.
1. Are they working? What were their goals and if those goals were met, or if they will be met soon.
2. Are they worth it for us? What are Bulgaria, Romania and Greece losing, and what are they gaining from these sanctions.
3. Are they moral? The ethic of using economy, basically recruiting private businesses and human livelihoods, to solve state disputes by pressuring another country's privately held businesses and citizens.
>>59128035
where do you base this assumption on?
>>59128035
Also, new guy is the 999th Lord Commander of the Watch.
>>59128064
For starters, she speaks 19 languages on the show, like some kind of fucking protocol droid. She claims to have memories of her two brothers before they became Unsullied, which doesn't add up, because Unsullied training takes longer than she's supposedly been alive. She also has legitimate superpowers, in one case mentioning that she could hear slaves "scratching" on the city walls ... from a half-mile away.
>burmci
>>59128099
might be the case then, but why would the followers of Many Faced God be interested in the politics of Meereen?
Aren't they supposed to be neutral?
I could literally outplay all of you betas in any game, irl and online, at the same time im 10/10 and earn 40,000 EUR, also I have 10 10/10 gfs and I am Macedonian, literally the best nation in the world.
Idk how you guys even survive without being me tbqh
>>59128237
Had a wank, feels good. I hope you are well too. Zen.
>>59128164
Who knows what the fuck those shady fags are up to.
But we know the Faceless Men descend from ancient slaves who killed their masters in a super-secret plot. So maybe they have some interest in Danny's abolitionist thing. Or they wanna kill her. Who knows?
![1462863973569[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/35P1y99.png "1462863973569[1].png")
>>59128060
Start a serious discussion, you fucking selyaks.
>>59128060
4. Why did the Bulgarians get their arses ploughed by Greek gorillas in 1018? Or better said eye sockets?
>>59128580
wrong these men were macedonian
some guy screamed ELEHUEGBER in Munich and stabbed a german dude to death.
top kek
>>59128723
You meme'd so hard, I couldn't tell what you are trying to say.
>>59128501
>>59128060
I'm more interested on what implications the brexit referendum will have on my country since we wouldn't getting anything out of the Eurogroups before that
I'm afraid that if the Uk chooses the way out, we're royally fucked
>>59128675
The aнтицки macedonians were either assimilated by Greeks or the proto-Bulgarians from the first empire. So you can say it that way - but thing is, besides some Turk blood you have nowadays, those guys are similar to you.
>>59128767
tl;dr; happening in Munich, Germany
>>59128802
Both Greece and UK will lose if they leave the EU.
EU would've been bankrupt if they didn't have their loan taking addiction backed by the german mark in 1990.
Greece already is bankrupt, and things will only get worse if the euro is abandoned.
>>59128863
>EU would've been bankrupt
Meant UK obviously.
>>59128802
>>59128863
>talking about economy
Ewwwww not again, don't tell me you are that Bulgarian telling us about that crisis in 1996.
>>59128918
Of course I am, seeing how I am the only person in this thread who could actually walk on his own in the 90s.
>>59128939
Can you tell us some stories from the Bulgarian communism? Unfortunately I have been born 10 years later so I wasn't to know OUR communism's aftermath.
>>59128863
i was sceptical that the leave vote wouldn't take any momentum at the start but boris is doing it. although its gonna be tightsince the scots and the welsh would vote in. its too close to call imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1jvbkf87Tg
>>59128994
Hi 1999 kid
>>59128994
Not much to say. Life was cheaper, and duller.
Mundane everyday stuff were all easier to get, and everyone had plenty, but everything else was either very hard to acquire or illegal.
Basically instead of having rich and poor, we were all lower middle class.
Except for the party, of course, they were better off.
Still, technology and consumer electronics have gotten so much better in the last 20 years that the times of communism look terrible simply because we didnt have cheap powerful computers, mobile phones, internet and so on.
Consumer goods science has advanced a lot since communism ended here, and we live better now because of that. Not that its related.
>>59129292
>Mundane everyday stuff were all easier to get, and everyone had plenty, but everything else was either very hard to acquire or illegal.
The Six Paradoxes of Communism:
1. Everyone has a job, but no one actually does any work.
2. No one actually does any work, but production targets are always reached.
3. Production targets are always reached, but the shops are always empty.
4. The shops are always empty, but everyone has all they need.
5. Everyone has all they need, but no one is happy.
6. No one is happy, but they always vote the Communists back in.
(Russian joke)
>>59129391
Do you have those Russian paid trolls in your country?
>>59129391
>1. Everyone has a job, but no one actually does any work.
It strange how this very big, huge hurdle in the way of theoretical communism was reached before the communism itself was reached.
USSR had private property, inheritance, monetary system, so it wasn't communist at all, just socialist, yet it managed to achieve the communist bottleneck of people not being motivated to seek greatness and improvement.
There is a "pure communism" example with the puritans who went to live in North America in, from memory, New Columbia and New Plymouth.
No private property, everyone works all the land, all the produce is collected in a big common granary and distributed evenly. The produce was shit, because people didn't work hard.
Then when the land was distributed and everyone worked for themselves and kept their produce, there was an instant 220% increase in produce, from one year to the next.
>>59129391
Lol, I'll remember that one.
>>59129461
>yet it managed to achieve the communist bottleneck of people not being motivated to seek greatness and improvement
Didn't they simply kill off your elites and intellectuals, also forcefully ripping away their wealth/property?
>>59129461
got anything to read/whatch regarding that?
>>59129607
>your
Mine, as in the Bulgarian elite?
Yes, when communism came into power the elite was dismantled and killed or forced into suicide, since they were all nationalist military types who believed deeply in concepts of honor.
The provided excuse was that the fascist regime was being purged, and you can argue that case, although I don't believe it.
You have to remember, that communism was forced on Bulgaria. We were defeated, taken over, and a government forced on us. People who disagreed were killed or jailed.
In time with good propaganda and slavic brotherhood culture the Bulgarian people learned to love, and passionately defend communism, but this wasn't something that naturally developed here. It was brought from abroad, with guns and tanks backing it.
>>59129607
They did a lot more than that. They fucked us up completely. An interesting fact - before the communism took hold in the country, we were richer than Austria... and now the difference is staggering.
>>59129461
Sidenote. USSR actually had some successful communes made by some orthodox preachers(kind words, prayer and appeals to the greater good and christian charity&love surprisingly work better than threats and the state forcibly confiscating all your stuff), but the soviets were like "the religionists are making us look bad. shut it down!", so it ended fast.
We also have The Farm:
>The Farm is an intentional community in Lewis County, Tennessee, near the town of Summertown, Tennessee,[1] based on principles of nonviolence, and respect for the Earth. It was founded in 1971 by Stephen Gaskin, and 320 San Francisco hippies;[
>Signs started to appear between 1975 and 1979 that the Tennessee community's weak infrastructure and low income was insufficiently developed to support such a continuously large influx of new members. The Foundation went increasingly into debt. Furthering the Farm's growing pains was a baby boom resulting from the large number of young adults of childbearing age combined with an enthusiastic family philosophy being put into practice. Insufficient capacity of sewage infrastructure resources led to some giardia outbreaks and malcontent. As the Farm's population peaked, a disproportionately higher number of children or less-skilled residents could not significantly contribute to increasing the community's economy.
>In 1983, due to financial difficulties and also a challenge to Stephen Gaskin's leadership and direction, the Farm changed its residential community agreement and began requiring members to support themselves with their own income rather than to donate all income to The Foundation central corporation.[5] This decollectivization was called the Changeover, or the Exodus.
>. Those who could not adapt to the new dynamics of The Changeover found it difficult to remain. Those who had forged independent business opportunities or had reduced overhead could afford to stay.
cont.
>>59129694
Exactly, you all lost something in exchange.
>>59129696
srsly?
>>59129720
>The $400,000 plus debt was paid off after several years and the community became debt-free. An entrepreneurial spirit took hold, and numerous small businesses were established to provide support for the residents. Many members went back to school to get degrees in the medical field, and many now work at clinics and hospitals throughout Middle Tennessee.
So, when they actually free enterprise work, instead of "let's share everything, mon!" stuff improved.
>>59129696
>richer than Austria;
Really?
>>59129766
You can't imagine how much wealth the Soviets stole from our country directly and indirectly, man.
Sec, let me find the GDP per capita map of 1945.
>>59129610
No one single book, I've just read different stuff in different studies.
Just read in general, and you will gain understanding of how stuff works, or how it was meant to work.
>>59129720
An easier to examine example is the early kibbutz system in Israel.
They were communist to the point of now owning clothes. You'd get in in the morning, go to the clothes store, get some clothes, spend your day, and in the evening return the clothes to be washed. Someone else might use these clothes tomorrow, they aren't tied to you in any way.
There was also a communal system there or children. You didn't own your child, and it was raised by women whos job it was to specialize in raising children. Since not every parent is expected to be good at this, to have the skills or the time, all children were just kept int he children building with professional babysitters, and you could go visit your child there.
Hard to judge how successful it was economically, since it was very heavily subsidized by the government, people were practically paid to live in such a way in what were essentially war zone borders. However culturally it was well accepted, many people moved out but some also moved in, preferring this lifestyle.
>>59129805
The Soviets didn't steal wealth from Bulgaria, in fact they invested here. It wasn't evil Russians ruining our country on purpose, it was incompetent party leaders ruining it by accident.
>>59129805
>You can't imagine how much wealth the Soviets stole from our country directly and indirectly, man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SovRom
And directly:
They stole our treasury's gold!
And Spain's as well!
>>59128060
1.No. Its obvious that the sanctions must me havier. The goal will be met when the russhitian aggression in Eastern Ukraine ends and Putin leaves office.
2. Yes. Russia is the greatest danger to our progress. We are not losing anything. We can profit.
3. Absolutely fucking yes. The regular russian supports their dear leader so they must be thought a lesson.
>>59129766
yea communism was the worst thing that happens to Bulgaria.
Thats why i hate neo communist so much, romanticizing about the "good times".
do you guys use a furnace or a microwave to make ur guveches desu
>>59129896
>2. Yes. Russia is the greatest danger to our progress. We are not losing anything.
Quick example of us losing.
Poland and the Netherlands no longer dump their trash cheese in Russia.
So they dump it here, at even lower prices.
This means that our milk producers, farmers and cheese producers are nearing bankruptcy.
Business fails, less taxes. People go unemployed, more social benefits to be paid. This is a strain on the budget.
Similar examples can be made for apples and vegetables, for example.
We gain much, but we also lose.
>>59129917
>guveches
im not a selyak.
>>59129949
>he eats normie food
>>59129946
no. fuck off
>bull gay area
>>59129851
And now you have neo-commies and other fags fear-mongering people into the same retarded ideas, because "robots are gonna take our jerbs"
Which is an issue, and yes, some sharing is gonna happen(see how all software outside of games and stuff is turning open-source), but it's gonna turn into the same nightmare.
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>>59129851
>The Soviets didn't steal wealth from Bulgaria, in fact they invested here. It wasn't evil Russians ruining our country on purpose, it was incompetent party leaders ruining it by accident.
It's absurd that you think so. The Soviets installed the commie party here, an illegal terrorist organization that performed terrorist acts in our country. This is an indirect damage to the economy.
The direct damage comes from the fact that they STOLE our national gold, they forbid us from researching the Black Sea for gas and oil (which we are doing now), they killed our political elite, you know, the guys that know the most about how to run a country, and they made us a satelite state which no foreign policy of it's own and dependent entirely on the SU.
The communist party in Bulgaria was to blame for many things, but the main culprit remains the Soviet Union, and you'll be foolish to think that the BKP is the only party to blame for it all. They had absolutely no support here before Stalin paved their way to power.
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>>59129896
>>59129946
And obviously tourism, which is very reliant on Russians, and the sanctions lowered their public opinion of us, and some Russian tour operators removed Bulgaria from their lists.
>>59129969
Not an argument.
>>59129917
Microwave, but I only do it 3-4 times per year.
I mostly eat stuff that doesn't need to be prepared, too lazy.
>>59129917
microwave make shit food. Its only good for reheating and popcorn.
where can i watch the anime ?
hello my dark-skinned neighbors
>>59130025
heh, we were richer than Spain(civil war, though), a united Yugoslavia, and on the level of Poland.
>>59130025
Sorry, I forgot to talk about the image I posted. Ok, this was Bulgaria at the start of WW2, after 3 wars, 2 of which absolutely devastating (BW2 and WW1) in which we were the losers and had to pay a lot of reparations and give up a lot of territory. As you may know, the reparations from the first WW1 were pretty severe.
And this Bulgaria, which less territory and having survived 3 wars, is still not far away from WE. Compare it to now and the difference is night and day.
>tfw no tanned manly bulgarian gorilla bf
>>59130030
ha kebabs helped us in the tourism aspect we will have a 50% rise of Russians this year whit will be great.
>>59130030
Why don't you have your mother/ your wench cook food for you?
I know to cook several dishes, but as you have said, I am too lazy.
>>59130025
You mistake what I mean by party. Not just the Bulgarian communist party, but the overall soviet area of influence communist regime, they were all taking orders from one place anyway.
>the fact that they STOLE our national gold
Not a fact, since it isn't true. This happened to Romania, not to us.
>they forbid us from researching the Black Sea for gas and oil
This isnt theft, its incompetence.
>they killed our political elite, you know, the guys that know the most about how to run a country,
This again is a question of incompetence. They "purged the nazis", and didn't know what to do later. Good intentions, no competence.
>and they made us a satelite state which no foreign policy of it's own and dependent entirely on the SU
This is just ideology. It is the price paid for the investments we got from USSR. I don't think this price is worth it, but people in charge at the time thought it was. I consider them incompetent for thinking so.
Overall its not Russian theft, its communist incompetence and inability to act out their designs, as well as flaws with those designs.
>>59130133
You were also on the same level as Greece, a little behind Chezhoslovakia and Austria. Compare it to now, mate.
The difference between Romania and the richest country, Norway, is only 900 dollars in per capita, and now it's 60,000. Look at what communism can do to a country
>>59130030
What's that dish?
im new here and im a girl
>>59130204
>Chezhoslovakia
>>59129991
>please stop disagreeing with me!!!
This isn't how you argue, love.
"We are not losing anything." is wrong.
We lose in the tourism and agricultural spheres, which are important for the economy.
We lose in the energy and fuels spheres, which are important for the economy.
We divide into two fighting camps, which is bad for our nation and culture.
We are in fact losing quite a bit from the sanctions. You can argue its worth it, that we gain more, that long term we look to profit, but that doesn't change the fact that we are also losing.
These sanctions aren't free for us, they aren't an obvious clean good idea, arguments can easily be made both ways.
By the way, I support your first point, that the sanctions need to be tougher. I am just not delusional enough to think they are free.
>>59130228
Its the popular whatever-i-have-in-the-fridge dish.
Most commonly potatoes, cheese, tomatoes and an egg, in a clay bowl, in the microwave with some water.
Remember to put the lid on the bowl so it steams a bit.
>>59130204
Back then when it was 900 dollars, those were money, as you can see Norway's is 4 times higher than Romania's. Nowadays it is 8 times higher, so that's a double growth, best way to do the math is by dividing, not by substracting and comparing.
t. the guy who does the math and hits quints
>>59130161
Have you watch the нaциoнaлeн дoм нa тepopa. It was not incompetents is was deliberately killing anyone who was elite in any way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4sqMNHZxjI
who /black bomber/ here?
>>59130325
Have you considered replying to my post, instead of 5 words you randomly picked from it?
>>59130204
Yeah and it's too late now to ever catch up.
There's just no way any ex commie country can economically compete with the Western EU countries who've had several decades to establish successful corporations, brands and industries.
When you look at the east european countries that are doing well (Estonia, Slovakia, Czech Republic) they're mostly doing that well because of all the foreign capital which comes from the west, obviously.
The only possible equalizer would be that the west falls economically because of some catastrophic event and that would have a major effect on us too.
>>59130204
Nah, .
Plus, they kicked my great-grandpa out of his land, harrased grandpa for being from a family of empoverished richfag and later chipped away his health due to the fear of losing his home to make room for commieblocks, so i have a burning hatred for communism.
>900 dollars
That was worth a lot more then.
But still, we have a double development lag compared to before.
>>59130378
>Yeah and it's too late now to ever catch up.
Absolutely false. Now more than ever new industries show up from thin air almost.
Google came from nothing. If Google had started in Croatia, its taxes would considerably increase the national budget, bring tourists, increase employment, bring prestige, etc.
You can't tell where the next big thing will start, and if it did start here it would be like jumping 2 stairs forward. If we "cheat" like that, taking a few steps in a row with big leaps from newly developing industries, we will catch up.
Now the discussion should be how do we promote the startups of such innovations, and keep them here with low corporate tax and by providing a well educated, mobile workforce.
>>59130352
when part of your post is completely wrong its good to be addressed.
And i agree its not Russian theft. Its just bugged me.
>>59130161
>Not a fact, since it isn't true. This happened to Romania, not to us.
26 ton of gold was stolen from Bulgaria, mate. Google it.
>This isnt theft, its incompetence.
It's not really. They wanted us to buy Soviet gas and oil and not use our own, mate. It's far from incompetence, they wanted us entirely dependent on them.
>This again is a question of incompetence. They "purged the nazis", and didn't know what to do later. Good intentions, no competence.
The fuck are you talking about, bruh? That's far from incompetence, again. They wanted to exterminate anyone who can oppose them. KIlled hundreds of Bulgarians so that they can indoctrinate the rest more easily. And it actually worked.
>This is just ideology. It is the price paid for the investments we got from USSR. I don't think this price is worth it, but people in charge at the time thought it was. I consider them incompetent for thinking so.
Do you even know the meaning of "incompetent"? I don't think you do. It was a win for them, it was not incompetence. They didn't invest, they actually extracted from our iconomy. If by "investing" you mean "steal" basically, then yeah, they invested alright. So much investments that they set us back a hundred years.
>>59130378
Actually, we can still have quite a comfy existence if we keep this up.
And those countries are more due to:
a)developing killer industries(IT in estonia,etc);
b)being small;
>>59130508
>Killed hundreds...
kek, I meant hundreds of thousand.
>>59130474
It isn't wrong, simply because you didn't even quote me correctly. Let me fix that by quoting properly:
>they killed our political elite, you know, the guys that know the most about how to run a country,
>This again is a question of incompetence. They "purged the nazis", and didn't know what to do later. Good intentions, no competence.
This means that the people were killed for ideological reasons, and the problem comes from the incompetence of those who replaced them. I am not implying that the murder was a sign of incompetence. This was obviously ideology. Communists removing fascists. The incompetence comes later, when the inexperienced new leaders fail to drive the country forward.
You are misquoting me, and strawmanning me, by claiming I am stating the murder itself is somehow incompetent? I don't even understand how that would work, clearly they were very competent in the murdering of the old elite, since they were indeed all killed.
>>59130461
Great post, what do you do for technology companies in bulgaria?
>>59130461
>Google came from nothing
Google came from a PhD project at one of the best CS universities in the world.
It also had a shit ton of capital poured into it by investors which recognised its potential. Something that's very hard to do in a country where most citizens are poor (east europe)
Also the taxes and regulations would stop it from ever growing like that. There's a reason why literally every influential computer and internet related firms are American. They utterly dominate that industry. Even western european countries have failed to produce similarly gigantic companies.
The way to success would be to go the way of South Korea IMO.
First you invite foreign companies and foreign capital through cheap labour.
Then you start relaxing the economy in the hopes that you might make some mega company that will gain capital and be able to spread and innovate (Samsung).
But it might be too late for that. It's impossible to compete with Chinks.
We also lack the huge population.
>>59130548
hang yourself, you dirty communist. Thanks.
>>59130508
>26 ton of gold was stolen from Bulgaria, mate. Google it.
Zero english results, zero german results 7-8 bulgarian results all from august 2015, all citing the bulgarian Dolce Welle blog (not the german) which itself has deleted the article, and quoting each other.
Basically someone blogged something, and within 2 weeks every internet news website copy-pasted it.
>dependence on russian enrgy
We depend more on it today than we did in the 50s.
>i cant read
See >>59130548
>i dont know what incompetent means
It wasn't Russian foreign politics to bring all its resources and production towards the singular goal of fucking up Bulgaria. Read a book.
>>59130662
How about you argue my post instead of getting buttblasted and throwing insults?
This is the third time this thread when I write multiple paragraphs, and you just respond with ass pain.
>>59130508
>26 ton of gold was stolen from Bulgaria, mate.
Is there anyone they traded with that the soviets didn't steal from?
Speaking of russians requisitioning stuff:
The visit was short, about 15 minutes, and Tsar Alexander II welcomed the crowd and always gave instructions to chant the country's national music. Around the same lines was carried out and the welcome given to the Tsar in Adjud Station, where two of the city's prominent ladies offered him flowers and a speech in his honor in French. Contemporary documents in May recorded an humorous episode, meaning that after leaving the Tsar, the mayor of Focsani wrote to the prefect of the city that remained at loss of a silver tray, on which was the salt and bread that was greeted Alexander II, tray "confiscated" by the Russians, according to their custom. Prefecture was also asked to contribute so the amount of 20 lei to cover the costs silver tray.
>Be russian diplomatic mission;
>Stay 15 MINUTES IN A TOWN;
>Steal the plate on which the traditional signs of honour and hospitality were put on;
>>59130378
>slow vakia
>doing well
We are on the same tier with Slovakia, that doesn't mean they are rich.
>it's not too late to catch up
I don't mind living in a second world country. The only thing that lures refugees to a country is money. If a country is poor, doesn't matter how tolerant and SJW are its inhabitants (example: Romania, where tumblrinas, atheism and gay attemptance thrives on the internet), that country would still accept none of them.
>>59130654
>what is nokia, skype, angrybirds, soundcloud
>>59130784
Yeah, and the few immigrants we get come here for a reason, to actually do something over here(see Arafat).
>>59130784
>The only thing that lures refugees to a country is money.
The only thing that lures refugees is free money. No mudslime wanted to stay in Denmark when they slashed how much they give out in handouts.
Make welfare for citizens only and suddenly no more economic migrants.
>>59130630
Code monkeys and web development outsourcing.
Private sector only, the government doesn't promote anything.
>>59130654
>brains are lacking
Not sure, Google was started by leaders, but stuff like Facebook or Tumblr were started by the kind of people we have plenty of here.
>starting capital is lacking
True. It is a big issue. I wish the government would have the central bank lend money with low rate to such perspective projects, it is how the famed Japanese economical miracle happened.
>taxes
Bulgaria has favorable taxes for such a project to appear. Low corporate tax, lower than USA, and scales well with the amount of money you are working with.
>let others outsource here instead
We already are doing that, it too slow. We are indeed growing, even through the crisis, but our growth is too low. After all the original subject was catching up, not keeping up.
>we lack population
HUGE issue, we need a cultural shift towards family values and having and raising children, and at the same time towards a more modern, free thinking people.
Nearly impossible for the government to promote both of these sides at once, so I am not optimistic.
>>59130717
Arguing with communists leads to nothing. It's a dead end. So the rope for you and your kind.
>>59130816
>nokia
Failed to adapt to the change in the industry, bought by Microsoft.
>skype
Bought by Microsoft.
>angry birds
You're comparing the succes of a mobile game to the success of the company which
>owns the platform said mobile game is on
>designed the OS of the platform
>designed the language the game was written in
When I say America dominates the computer and IT industry I meant that literally almost all innovations in it are done there and literally all the most successful mega corps are from there.
are turkish girls the real balkan godesses ? they are so white
https://twitter.com/anzujaamu/status/729974270743457792
>>59130687
>Zero english results, zero german results 7-8 bulgarian results all from august 2015, all citing the bulgarian Dolce Welle blog (not the german) which itself has deleted the article, and quoting each other.
Basically someone blogged something, and within 2 weeks every internet news website copy-pasted it.
Did you even read what was written in those articles?
>We depend more on it today than we did in the 50s.
Skipped the part where I said that they didn't want us to check upon our sea territories for oil and gas, when there was evidence to do so, but ok, I'll ignore that.
No, we don't depend on them more now than before. It's just that we are free to look upon the information that we have now rather than before were all the information was state guarded privacy. And soon we won't be dependent on them at all, especially if we find the oil and gas I talked about.
>>i cant read
Are you drunk? I posted before you did... Can't read... KEK
>It wasn't Russian foreign politics to bring all its resources and production towards the singular goal of fucking up Bulgaria. Read a book.
Incompetent implies that you just lack the skills to do something productive which isn't true in this case, The communists killed our political elite not because they were incompetent, but because they wanted to rule unopposed. That's NOT incompetent. They KNEW full well what that will lead to. You think Georgi Dimitrov cared at all about wtf happens to Bulgaria? He wanted power, you imbecile.
>>59128035
WILL YOU GUYS STOP IT WITH GOT THEORIES WHICH ARE POTENTIAL SPOILERS I'm waiting for summer to watch them all ρεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεεε
>>59131016
>Did you even read what was written in those articles?
Yes, it was the same stuff in all of them, and all of them copy-paste it from a deleted blog post on Dolce Welle - BG.
It has zero value as is. People saying things, and not proving them.
>they didn't want us to check upon our sea territories for oil and gas, when there was evidence to do so
That's incompetence, because they would've benefited from that. The USSR and Bulgarian markets were very, very heavily connected, and any wealth entering ours would in turn enter theirs. The USSR simply didn't have the technology to work these resources, and it wouldn't import any from the USA.
If they could've done something that would've benefited them, and chose not to do it, that's textbook incompetence.
>No, we don't depend on them more now than before.
But we do. Russian oil and gas drives our electric power. It is also why even though we are "sanctioning" Russia, we are still buying tremendous amounts of these. If we stop, we will simply not have enough electricity, nor is there enough in the area to buy.
>I posted before
But I didn't say anything new in that later post. I only explained in greater detail what was an obvious point.
Incompetence not in conducting the purge, but incompetence in replacing the elite. This is obvious, common sense stuff, that you could've deduced by reading my original post, the one before yours, that you responded to.
>The communists killed our political elite not because they were incompetent
Strawman, never claimed that, three times already explained what was meant. Learn to read.
They were incompetent in replacing these people, not in killing them. They were very proficient in killing.
>>59130848
No. There are also some useless roaches who have been placed in special centres and they just loiter all the day throughout the city then come and eat the shitty food they don't deserve, then sleep. And they wake up again and they start loitering.
>>59130861
Yes, that's it. But soon we are to raise welfare as well with this new blue-pilled youth eager to enter the politics.
If you are willing to read a mind-blowing story, be careful here. If you have gone through high-school recently you might know what I am talking about - there are some kids from other classes who make announcements, luring other students to their project.
Scarcely had this class started when a male and a female students entered the classroom willing to make an announcement. They said there is a project that bases on multiculturalism, which gives you a diploma that helps you STUDYING ABROAD.
And by this project there are going to be a 19 years-old Pakistani boy and a 20 years-old Indian girl in Romania. They will try to integrate here and maybe they will be living here. Of course, every mindless sheep amongst my classmates was very content at hearing of this fact.
>>59130999
Being bought by Microsoft isn't a failure, its a success.
"America dominates the computer and IT industry" because that's where it started. It dominates it because it dominated it yesterday, and things that big don't go away overnight.
Samsung has a much brighter future than IBM.
>>59130999
the croat makes sense, this is what a centralised EU is/was trying to be. creating a marketplace to rival that of the US but a centralised europe will never work.
>>59131244
>And by this project there are going to be a 19 years-old Pakistani boy and a 20 years-old Indian girl in Romania.
That makes no sense. These programs aren't in partnership with places like Pakistan. And if they move here, everyone will mistake those fags for our other lovely indian minority we have and love so much....
>>59131319
It would be if it weren't trying to break into every country's intimacy by trying to make it to obey foreign customs, to obey foreign rules and to form United States of Europe. Also, Jewry is an enemy for this European "Union", it doesn't try to protect Europe anymore from the invading forces. In earlier centuries there weren't an European Union, though Poland stood for AH in 1513 at Mohacs (IIRC) and in 1683 at Vienna. That won't happen anymore, hence this is not an "union".
>>59131381
No, but as my class is mostly female, these sheep didn't talk for themselves. Tell me, how bright and what political views and history knowledge did girls have when you were in the 10th? None, they barely can choose a political view by themselves at 20.
That means they were eager to get into "multicultural experience", without thinking about its risks.
What is your favourite tomato balk.
Mine is pick related buffalo heart.
>>59131680
this.
dad grows these.
>>59131680
yeah sure, try biting into it and squirts all over your shit
>>59131710
>dad grows these
are you a selyak my friend?
>>59131680
I think it's called bull's heart.
![39a19a1ae31469af428a0d64fd415d02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qhpsMep.jpg "39a19a1ae31469af428a0d64fd415d02[1].jpg")
>>59131194
>Yes
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%D0%B1%D1%8A%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F+%D1%81%D1%8A%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%8F+%D1%81%D1%8A%D1%8E%D0%B7+%D0%B7%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE
>That's incompetence, because they would've benefited from that. The USSR and Bulgarian markets were very, very heavily connected, and any wealth entering ours would in turn enter theirs. The USSR simply didn't have the technology to work these resources, and it wouldn't import any from the USA.
If they could've done something that would've benefited them, and chose not to do it, that's textbook incompetence.
You've obviously read absolutely nothing about the subject. Anton Todorov showed Soviet documents in which they explicitly forbid us from researching our oil and gas in our sea territories. The point of this is that they sold they're oil and gas at larger prices. We actually brought cheaper gas from Algeria than the Soviet Union. Piss off with your communist dogma.
>But we do. Russian oil and gas drives our electric power. It is also why even though we are "sanctioning" Russia, we are still buying tremendous amounts of these. If we stop, we will simply not have enough electricity, nor is there enough in the area to buy.
My god, you're dense. You think you do because you have the information now, and yes, we're still EXTREMELY dependent on them for energy, but have you heard of the planned pipelines from Azerbaijan, or Qatar, or the interconnector from Greece that's being developed and will sell us cheaper gas? Guess not
Irrelevant. You quoted me after I already made my post. I can't go into details since my post is getting too large.
>They were incompetent in replacing
Thing is, you never said that in your previous posts. And you're wrong again, they didn't replace them with the smart people exactly because they DIDN'T want to. Georgi Dimitrov put his friends in high places not because he was incompetent. You're an idiot though, that much is obvious.
>>59131802
he thinks been a seltak is giant insult fuck off.
>>59131827
>lmgtfy
>brings up the same NO SOURCES results quoting a DELETED BLOG POST from a known PROPAGANDA BLOG
Wew lad.
>insults and no arguments
>i can't go into details....
WEW LAD.
How do you manage to write a post that is already proven wrong by the very post you reply to? See >>59131194 it contains arguments against everything you said, minus the insults.
>>59131834
Well it does mean you are a third-class "citizen", so...
>>59131957
oк гpaждaнинo. Дaнo ти e дoбpe в пaнeлкaтa.
ITT: dirty communist getting BTFO by based non-communists.
>>59132071
ITT: you have no points so you stop trying to argue.
I am not a communist, either. Just not delusional.
>>59131942
>>brings up the same NO SOURCES results quoting a DELETED BLOG POST from a known PROPAGANDA BLOG
>Propaganda blog
>Numerous sites
>Putinbot calls other sources that he doesn't like "propaganda".
kek
WEW LAD.
>How do you manage to write a post that is already proven wrong by the very post you reply to? See >>59131194 it contains arguments against everything you said, minus the insults.
There are three options on display: either you're extremely stupid, borderline retarded, and believe me, this isn't meant as an insult, you're a Putinbot, or you're an extremely brainwashed individual. Honestly, I don't know which one to pick because all three seem extremely likely.
Unfortunately, "wew lad", you didn't answer a single goddamn thing and just sperged out "incompetence, incompetence" in all of your posts, thereby confirming that you have absolutely no idea what that word means. I suggest you google it immediately.
And since you can't answer a single question of mine without claiming "incompetence" I'll just stop this discussion here because it's extremely pointless, as >>59130985 already said, but I didn't listen.
>>59132071
ITT: The only based Bulgarian poster gets "bantered" ny unlittered faggots.
tl;dr: There aren't only extreme left and extreme right you bipolar faggot.
>>59132109
Here it is.
Go for it!
>>59132187
>Putinbot
This.
>>59132187
Numerous sites quoting each other, none bringing up sources. Having the same shit repeated on all of these news outlets that constantly repeat mistakes is no proof of anything.
They all have one source, and that source is a deleted blogpost from a blog that currently promotes "refugees welcome" and Merkel being the most important person in the world.
>>59131802
yes, i'm from Sofia. We have selo where my dad grows our season veggies.
>>59132250
Based albo. It's extremely likely, desu, but there are many brainwashed communists that you can only facepalm when talking to, so I wouldn't rule an old commie out.
>>59132256
Try again. What you just said isn't true at all, but it's obvious you didn't read any of them. Some sites have even posted Bulgarian documents proving my point. But there is absolutely no point in continuing a discussion with you. When a communist or a Putinbot sees a thing he doesn't like, he screams "PROPAGANDA, PROPAGANDA"
:3
>>59132445
>Some sites have even posted Bulgarian documents proving my point.
An unrelated document which basically says "Bulgaria pay your debts". The USSR asking us to pay debts on one occasion doesn't prove we had "gold stolen from us" on another.
No sources, on any website, other than quotes to each other and to the deleted DW blogpost.
The Irish anthem has nice lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2rRzvsZJfM
pi4ue, woke up. didnt eat breakfast. started drinkin beer before noon. a-am i a degenerat, desu? day off today, working tmr.
>>59133429
you might get FAS lmao
>>59131710
>dad grows these
>>59132882
>An unrelated document which basically says "Bulgaria pay your debts". The USSR asking us to pay debts on one occasion doesn't prove we had "gold stolen from us" on another.
Commie, commie, lying so much... It's in your nature, I suppose. Kys, please, your ignorance is hurting my sanity.
fucking slavs I hope you all die today
fucking animals
>>59133468
what's so funny, fatso?
>>59133616
Wends are bro tier tho
>mangali having a party in a bar nearby
>blasting cigan music like there's no tomorrow
>call the po-po
>silence at last
so, how's your day going, /balk/?
>checking panama papers
>seeing a known name
>Mr. Sokratis KOKKALIS
https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/12154312
wow, our beloved ex Stasi agent is good and kicking still
>>59133616
who devastated your colon, lad? let's talk about that.
![4252[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QozhHjo.jpg "4252[1].jpg")
>>59133616
Go fuck yourself, T*rkroach
>>59134022
>>59133966
>replying to the gayreek.
>ever
u dun goof'd
>>59133963
what's the deal with registering their address to foreign countries
>>59134060
The T*rkroaches need to be put down like the dogs they are. I'm establishing dominance.
>>59133963
lets say gdawn comes into power, what would they do differently?
>>59133797
Doesn't it sounds funny? The phrase itself, that is.
>>59134089
>What's the deal with people like kokkalis
Oh man, If only I had enough stuff to give you about this man. He was the most corrupted person in Greece for decades and directly manipulating all the bribing scandals
funny thing is he and his father were devout communists and Sokratis had his studies in East Germany + he was a Stasi agent in Greece for them.
>>59134156
Fuck GD, they will never get power
>>59134166
not really, mb is you are high.
>>59134022
>>59134060
>>59134113
You can call me turk you can call me african you can call me a chinese crossed with arab
but it doesn't matter since I'M A FUCKING HUMAN
Unlike the slavs fucking animals I hope you die and you will die soon.
>>59134268
kek
>>59134113
No. This is a gayreek. He deserves no attention.
>>59134195
are you planning on jailing his ass anytime soon?
At what age did you grow-out of the edgy commie and/or atheist phase balk?
For me it was by the end of 16.
>>59134374
>grow out of atheism
Did you forget physics or what?
>>59134367
He will go to jail at the same time when Soros will be convicted too :)))
He's untouchable, even if he has "retired" from his "businesses"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokratis_Kokkalis
>>59134397
Ladies and gentlemen exhibit A.
>>59134268
shut up, slav
>>59134374
>atheism
?
Atheism is completely rational way of thinking. I'm sorry, but believing in a higher deity in the 21st century is just stupid.
>>59134166
no, not at all
like the other anon assumed, are you high?
>>59134397
fucking A+
>>59134508
I guess its the current century guys.
>>59134631
>>59134434
I guess you have no point to make.
>>59134239
>>59134525
What's wrong with you people, I'm not high.
>>59134423
Guess you were right about the Stasi agent drill
>Kokkalis was alleged to have subsequently bribed Greek officials in order for the national telecommunications company of Greece to purchase East German telecommunications equipment.
Also
>Extensive criticism was also received in the Romanian press by Kokkalis and the companies Intralot and Intracom for allegedly bribing Romanian officials into signing and extending contracts between the Greek firms and the Romanian Lottery that were thoroughly disadvantageous for the Romanian side, with losses totalling up to 1bn Euros as of April 2014.
What a fucking shitter
>>59134671
>its 2016
is a point
>physics
is a point
>>59134631
stop acting like you are 16yo /pol/tard, the faggot is right.
Unless you go to church to pray to god when you are ill instead visiting a proper shaman.
>>59134831
Not believing is god is right,and im the edgy 16 old
TOP lel.
>>59134822
Physics is a very large collection of points.
If they are too complex for you, take philosophy instead.
>If an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent god exists, then evil does not.
>There is evil in the world.
>Therefore, an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God does not exist.
t. Epicurus
>>59134822
*cringes*
>>59134797
Huh, tell me about it senpai. This man was the king of corruption here
He was also the president of Olympiakos FC since the early 1990s. Since 1997, he used his political and non political influence to make sure Olympiakos would reign the Greek football, setting aside the majority of the competition (AEK Athens and Panathinaikos mainly, who were the ones who controlled the Greek football up that point)
And that shitty era started with this penalty during the biggest derby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvJDYiIvThM
The name of the referee was Papoutselis and he's the synonym of the fixed/wrongly given penalty today.
>>59134913
So quotes are a valid point now?
>>59134913
I have a masters in chemistry you fag.
>>59134904
believing in god is right as long you don't shove religion in people's faces.
go fuck yourself now.
>>59134977
If there is an all-knowing god, he knows about all the evil. The christian god exists out of time, so he even knows about evil before it happens.
If there is an all powerful god, he can stop the evil, which he would know exists.
And if he is all good, then he would want to stop this evil, which he knows of and can stop.
So he either doesn't know about the evil, or can't stop it, or doesn't want to stop it. In any case, this proves the christian idea of god wrong, and it was done before christianity was even a thing.
Yes, your religion was proven wrong before it was made up.
>caring if God exists or not
Why do people bother? It doesn't affect your life in the slightest.
>>59135013
No. Evil exists to tempt, test and make the righteous stronger and more determined. I can see that you are basing your asumptions on things you've never read.
>>59133155
:::rare:::
where are you posting from?
>>59134113
Probably some slav fucked his gf
>>59135065
It affects my life insofar as people who hold an opinion different than my own shove it in my face, and mock me for bot agreeing with them.
The memes may go that it is edgy fedora masters who always bully good christians, but in reality it seems the opposite here.
>>59135013
GOD does not solve all my problems for me that means he does not exist rEEEEEE
>>59135065
it shouldn't, but heres the deal:
>being an obnoxious vocal atheist in the Balkans today
Wow lads, proud achievement. In the era of religious apathy, some people shove their lack of faith into our faces. Like we give a shit anyway
>>59135096
So an all knowing, all powerful and all good god allows for children to be born deformed and in constant agony, and die after several years of suffering, machine aided existence, only to lead to their parents suiciding themselves in depression?
I imagine this was so that the baby, which never reached a state of comprehension enough to contemplate religion, could toughen up and be worthy of haven?
Seriously, you can't excuse things like child mortality or genocide by saying its there to tempt and harden us.
>>59135124
Please remove yourself from this country.
In fact, remove yourself from the continent.
>>59135179
If he exists, and is all knowing, and is all powerful, and is all good, then evil shouldn't exist.
Why would an all good, all powerful, all knowing entity permit evil?
Its illogical, and reasonable people don't treat illogical myth as fact.
Alright slavs, how do we kill fat people?
>>59135124
>The memes may go that it is edgy fedora masters who always bully good christians, but in reality it seems the opposite here.
Yep. It's always believers who open this topic.
>>59135217
Edgy /pol/tard detected. Go back there.
Pray to got to have an ez life have and ez life. Check-mate atheists.
>2016
>praying to kike gods
gj faggots
>>59135257
you don't
they are too powerful and superior
>>59135365
t. fatty
>>59135257
whit a gun.
>>59135396
t. skinny bitchoi
>>59135352
but anon, we are kikes too :)
>>59135437
taksidaki?
>>59134968
At least, your corrupted politicians are loud enough to notice them. Ours, well, not so much.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3580700/Romania-health-minister-resigns-disinfectant-row.html
>>59135437
gamo tin mana sou malaka
gamo to poulanto sou flore
>>59135478
gamo tin mana sou evree
>>59135429
Suffering of the body =/= suffering of the soul. It's all a test in the end.
>>59135571
How is it a test, when the "soul" of the baby isnt allowed to become christian before it is tortured?
When it cant comprehend and rationalize that torture?
>>59135495
>reports said the disinfectant was diluted.
lol your politicians need some seakike lessons on how to make scandals work out better
>>59135601
why are you guys faggots?
like seriously believing a semetic religion are you fucking cucks?
>>59135601
You don't comprehend why the sky is blue when you're young but it doesn't mean that it's false.
remember my fellow balkanlars to ignore the edgy gayreek spammer
>>59135638
But I don't.
>>59135653
It also doesn't mean your soul is being tested by the blue sky, or you are being hardened by its blueness.
The existence of abortion proves there is no all knowing, all good, all powerful god, for example. Such an entity wouldn't allow abortion.
>>59135721
What makes you think that it's not allowed? You can massacare all the women and children in the world but that doesn't mean you won't get judged for that.
>>59135777
Its not about the killer, its about the victim. Why is it allowed for this soul to be killed so early, before it can become christian?
i can bet my monthly salary that one of the bulgarian faggots arguing about religion is the A-Fucking-Hat retard.
i can feel his stupidity in the air.
>>59135709
ti zori travas re malaka min sou gamiso to xorio
>>59135817
If you think someone must go through baptism in order to become a christian you have a very distorted and brain-washed view of christianity.
>>59135855
NOT AN ARGUMENT!!1!!!11!
>>59135933
If you think that an unborn fetus is a christian, you need to read the bible.
Christianity isn't genetic. You aren't born into it.
Unless you are a confused jew?
>>59135980
You do realize that all people are under one God despite their beliefs, ethnicity etc. Like I said you base your asumptions on fedora-style stuff you read over facebook.
Arguing whit fedoras
>>59136086
>b-b-but muslims are christian too, they just dont know it!!!
You do realize that christianity has strict rules about who is allowed into haven and who goes to hell, and an aborted fetus goes to hell, right?
>Religion
>21st century
Ok...
>>59136151
If you do good you go to heaven
If you do bad you go to hell
Is it that hard for you to comprehend this?
nice meme thread, families
Why are Bulgarians so stupid? You can throw any bait here and they're the only ones who get triggered. Like the greek who talks about slavs, Bulgarians always hook his baits. No one else gives a shit. Always them.
>>59136274
>good-bad
Define these. One can do "bad" believing they are doing "good". One can harm in self defense, or while defending others, or while falsely believing to be defending others.
Once you base your views on "good and bad", they are more or less useless.
>>59136274
If you die, that's it, nothing happens. It's scientifically proven, you idiot
>>59136088
It can be quite humorous.
>>59136331
гooглe мeмec тимe
>>59136356
>why do bulgarians discuss rather than just post slags and ms paint maps?
Education.
>>59136362
That's why you don't judge yourself but rather an all-knowing, all-seeing entity does.
>>59136381
Low quality b8
>>59136485
>an all-knowing, all-seeing entity
And all powerful too? Or not?
Christianity demands that he also be all powerful.
And if he is all knowing, all seeing and all powerful, he simply would remove evil and judge all worthy.
>>59136517
Do you literally want me to mention to your retarded ass every trait of God? You're going back to the "he would remove all evil" argument you used a couple of posts back which means you're literally starting da si smuchesh ot prastite. So no need to continue this my edgu neck-beard friend.
RATE CYPRUS EUROVISION SONG NOW!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8LcNrqiIFE
>>59136634
>Do you literally want me to mention to your retarded ass every trait of God?
He has 3 major traits, its not a fucking phone book of them.
Yes, someone who is ALL GOOD, and ALL KNOWING, and ALL POWERFUL would not permit evil to exist. He would know it does, and want it not to, and have the power to remove it.
