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Last thread: >>52949173
>I disagree. Only in extreme cases like HK is density a problem.
>In NYC and the like
Manhattan has denisty of 27,672.6/km2... it's definitely an extreme case. At this point you need highrises and skyscrapers to keep all this enterprise, trade, business working.
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>>52988776
>tfw no vending machines in a 100 meter radius
feels bad man
rip kuala
>>52991300
Asia is going to look so shit when the environmentalists force local authorities to switch off the lights at night.
>>52991688
>mfw brits turn off the streetlights at night
>>52991688
Environmentalists are not powerful enough to make that happen here. Profit first. Humanity second. That's asia.
What does /urban/ think of Miami's general development?
>grewup near downtown Toronto
>childhood mainly consisted of avoiding getting hit by oncoming traffic and avoiding getting stabbed for my gameboy by a paki
Fuck urbanization desu
St Ives, Cambridgeshire.
>>52985110
Triple the area of the centre and cut by 1/3rd or more the height of the buildings. Problem solved.
Third world scenery
>>52992069
Pussy.
>>52992029
This pic reminds me of Busan, South Korea.
>>52991788
20% of electricity consumption globally comes from lighting cities/towns.
It's going to get more and more attention, and eventually all those neon and whatever signs in Tokyo will be switched off.
>>52992029
Looks like a hairclip.
"Mon deiux! I have had zee excellent idea for a building! It will look like a hairclip!"
- the thought process gone into that building.
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>>52991709
nice pics
>>52992029
is this building in the middle a render?
Stadtallendorf mosque.
Germany has taken in 1 million more Muslims last year. Its mosques are going to be busy places.
>>52992260
Of course it is you faggot.
>>52992164
Jakarta?
>>52992213
>switched off
No, they will become lower powered and use more efficient lighting.
>>52992090
That's a really bad idea, more transportation time, and you need to expand the subways, electrical, gas and water networks.
I think they should double the building height and install light tubes to bring some sunlight to street level.
>>52992294
They could have put some local influence into it.
>>52992349
Japanese flag in this thread is actual japanese.
>>52992396
>That's a really bad idea, more transportation time, and you need to expand the subways, electrical, gas and water networks.
Tough shit more transportation time. Transportation time decreases as we build more modern transport.
The rest is easily done.
>I think they should double the building height and install light tubes to bring some sunlight to street level.
Disgusting. So unnatural.
Coswig castle.
Someone should tell Germany that castles are supposed to be imposing, not inviting.
>>52992517
>so unnatural
Living in any manmade building is "unnatural"
Live in a cave if you want "natural"
>>52992511
it doesn't even have a moon crescent at the top
pretty much non mosque kek
>>52992585
Stone and timberwork is natural. More natural than commieblock shit from steel and concrete
>>52992090
>Triple the area of the centre and cut by 1/3rd or more the height of the buildings.
>triple the area of the centre
I won't even start on it
but apart from this
who the fuck wants the centre of the world most influential city in XX/XXI century to look like this >>52992090
fuck off with your lowrise obsession, now you want to lower height of NYC buildings(which isn't even inflated or ridiculous) and build some "low rise pedestrian friendly city" instead of Manhattan
do you even realize how it sounds?
Modern church in Faches-Thumesnil, France.
If I were God I'd be pissed. Whoever designed it would go to hell.
>>52992744
>Stone and timberwork
Top fucking kek
You have any idea how long it takes to construct a stone and wood structure?
Not to mention the fact that stone and wood is less robust than reinforced concrete.
>>52992638
A lot of mosques don't.
>>52992764
>>who the fuck wants the centre of the world most influential city in XX/XXI century to look like this
It doesn't have to look like that.
But Regent Street, London, looks better than anything in NYC. Most of The City is full of old beautiful buildings, you just dont normally see them because photographs of The City are blocked by the dick-measuring skyscrapers screaming "ME ME ME ME ME ME".
>>52992895
>You have any idea how long it takes to construct a stone and wood structure?
A yearish.
And reinforced concrete is useless. It has a lifetime of a few decades before water/moisture causes it to crack.
High density living in Naousa, Greece.
No skyscrapers required. Nice streets to walk in, too.
>>52992744
>Stone and timberwork is natural.
No, building out of stone is already not natural, timberwork too, everything manmade is not natural
and how do you even imagine wooden/stone city?
wooden shit is easily burning
and the only advantage of stone over concrete is muh traditional/natural look
even Romans already 2000 years ago used a fucking concrete to build cities
>>52993117
Stone and timber are not manmade.
>and the only advantage of stone over concrete is muh traditional/natural look
Stone lasts much longer.
Church of the Holy Mother of God, Asen's Fortress, Bulgaria
Lasts hundreds of years.
>>52993085
>No skyscrapers required
No skyscrapers required no skyscrapers needed. Because it's a fucking 30k town.
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>>52992972
>But Regent Street, London, looks better than anything in NYC
That's an opinion. Also pretty weird one considering the fact NYC actually has a lot of "old" or atleast traditionally looking buildings too.
>>52992972
>Most of The City is full of old beautiful buildings, you just dont normally see them because photographs of The City are blocked by the dick-measuring skyscrapers screaming "ME ME ME ME ME ME".
Your Regent Street is screaming ME ME ME ME! too or atleast it was, a long time ago. It was built to impress aswell, but back then people had quite limited resources/capabilities.
>>52993041
>a few decades
The Ingalls building is 110 years old and is in excellent condition
If you want concrete to last longer you use galvanized steel reinforcement.
Some new buildings don't even use concrete lmao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwvmru5JmXk
All steel
>>52993589
>Your Regent Street is screaming ME ME ME ME! too or atleast it was, a long time ago
Nope.jpeg.
>>52993291
>stone lasts much longer
Because stone is almost always overbuilt
Overbuild anything and it will last just as long
I wouldn't be surprised if German war bunkers last over 1000 years
![800px-Pantheon_0918_2013[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6BThhmi.jpg "800px-Pantheon_0918_2013[1].jpg")
>>52993445
Pantheon. Built mostly out of concrete.
Lasts 1900 years.
The beautiful Georgian riverfront of Wisbech, Cambridgeshire.
>>52993666
this is just showing your ignorance
basically everything larger which was built even a long time ago, even your shitty stone church here >>52993445 was mentioned to "look good" and draw attention
it's not skyscraper's fault they are much better at it : ^ )
Hoover Dam
Built to last 2000 years
>>52993778
>beautiful
Arles, France
Colosseums are another superior traditional structure. Built right in the city centre for great atmosphere, look good from the outside at street level, and last a long time.
Modern stadiums are normally quite impersonal at ground level, and are normally built miles away from anything.
Gonna post a few pics of Oslo, this being the general area around the Royal Palace.
>tfw we will never see this again
feels bad man
>>52994150
The city center
>>52994241
The Storting (national assembly)
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>>52994395
The Opera House
Perth, Scotland
Beautiful stonework.
>>52994126
>Modern stadiums are normally quite impersonal at ground level, and are normally built miles away from anything.
Ahem
>>52994495
Oslo City Hall
>>52994530
>surrounded by car parks
>modernists defend this
>>52994577
Around the City Hall
>>52994577
Vile.
>>52994669
The Akershus Fortress
>>52994759
The Royal Pallace
>>52994694
I rather like it
>>52993957
no lad remember stone lasts longer lmao
especially in contact with water
>>52993977
yeah I honestly don't know what beautiful people see in things like this
but I don't spam them with "muh disgusting old ruins, build sustainable metropolies instead of these villages!!!" everytime their post
Moreton Hall, Congleton.
16th century.
>>52994891
Yeah, stone sure is the building material of the future lmao
>>52994528
I like this church I love tacky towers like this and vertical architecture, no matter if modern of traditional
>>52994846
An attempt at a skyline "Barcode"
>>52995131
The main shopping street
>>52995050
stone and timberwork lowrises in the middle of manhattan
not taller than 5 stories because it looks disgusting after all and screams ME ME ME ME
Oak Park house
Frank Lloyd Wright
>>52994577
I like it
>>52995131
That just looks really edgy
>>52995214
That'd just look lovely! I'm sure we can have one up in a year and at half the price of those "concrete" ones.
>>52995131
it's not that bad I kinda like it
though those certainly aren't legit skyscrapers
Renovated tenement
Hong Kong
If only all of HK looked like this.
>>52995300
Yeah "Barcode" is shite but probably going to look better when the build the new National Library there
>>52995300
>That'd just look lovely! I'm sure we can have one up in a year and at half the price of those "concrete" ones.
and of course keep all 1.6 million permanent residents there + keep business and trade going
wait no we can't
just make Manhattan 3x larger : ^ )
>>52995388
HK is so ... unequal
Chungking """"Mansions"""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chungking_Mansions
Taking the street level and making it vertical
I want to visit it one day.
>>52995467
Excellent idea! We can have all those people walk to work and save money on the public transit in the city core because it's used less now!
Did the thread die?
Cambridge:
What comes to mind?
Old beautiful spires? Beautiful buildings?
Indeed.
But look, in the 20th century Cambridge got a Modernist extension.
Pic related.
It is called Arbury. It is about the same size as Cambridge's centre, and is connected to it. Indeed, it is a part of Cambridge. So now about half of Cambridge looks like pic related.
Pic related is the ideal Modernist piece. To a modernist, it is perfect.
Cambridge should be very thankful for having a Modernist attachment, don't you think?
>>52996719
I didn't have any image about Cambridge. Do British people imagine countryside when they hear Cambridge? Are the people in this pic supposed to belong to Cambridge university?
>>52996315
wew it dies from time to time /urban/ never was particularly lively
>>52996719
It's not to tacky or edgy, and it blends in with the other brickwork of the town.
I'd say it looks great.
>>52996719
whats wrong with that
Crewe Hall,
Crewe
>>52996315
Yes.
>>52996315
filter stronk
>>53000138
no
>>52994150
Lad, at least post some nicer parts of the city
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>>53001167
god dammit oslo being horrendously ugly really isn't a meme eh
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>>53001198
What's wrong there?
>>53001318
just looks like copenhagen but painted funny colours to me. I haven't spent much time in Oslo recently though, not since i started loving cities, so I'm biased i guess.
love you norbro
Sanctuary of Our Lady of Caravaggio, RS, Brazil. I always liked the parallel lines and solid color, and the environment around it provides a lot of space.
Macon, France
>>52995131
I Like barcode, very scandinavian
Macon City Auditorium -- World's Largest True Copper Dome
Georgia
Elmina castle, Ghana.
The largest European building south of the Sahara.
Lets be honest, it looks more hardcore than most German "castles".
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oldest*
>>53001849
how is this "european" though
I mean what's the story ?
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>>53001211
Oslo looks really good
>>53002026
Built by Europeans, one presumes.
15th century Gothic town hall in Gouda.
>>53002157
but why would europeans build a castle south of sahara what the fug
>>53001457
I think the bad weather just makes it look worse. Many Nordic + German cities share this type of architecture, but I don't know if Denmark is as colorful. I think they are, though.
>>53002079
Cheers. It really is a mixed bag of a city though. One moment you'll be surrounded by large nice quarters of ornamented buildings, and the next you'll be in a concrete brutalist ghetto. Some like this aspect of Oslo, though. You never really know what you'll get there.
>>53002079
Honestly, Oslo in not as bad as some people like to think. Yeah it got some bad places but 95% is decent enough
posting the only one polish skyline
imo top 6 in Europe
>>53003099
>and the next you'll be in a concrete brutalist ghetto.
even these getthos don't look as bad as commie blocks in warsaw
also lovely church you have there
>>53003117
>Honestly, Oslo in not as bad as some people like to think.
>one of world top tier cities and they are still complaining
wew I will never understand rich countries
>>53003200
Here's an example of such ghetto
>>53003372
It's only people from the rural areas that think Oslo is a shithole
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>>53003372
It's actually the tallest church in Oslo, but it's not all that impressive even when compared to other churches around the country. And Oslo, considering our richness, is honestly subpar. Architecture is one thing, but a lot of streets and buildings are badly maintained and many places in the centre are extremely filthy.
>>53003388
is it still here though?
photo is clearly from '80
>>53003645
well it's nice but not particularly tall even though its the tallest wew
100 Bishopsgate, City of London.
>>53003653
Yeah, just search Romsås in street view
>>52984868
hey OP, just want to say thanks for making all these threads. I can only assume it's all the same Polish person. I don't regular these threads by any means, but every once in awhile I'll come in and look at some of the nice pictures, so cheers for all that.
happy new years
>>53003752
It's barely 70 metres, while our tallest overall is 100 metres. Still not all that much, but it can't be helped.
>>53003852
looks ok nothing really impressive though I guess London needs some "normal" skyscrapers too
>>53003979
Honestly, the tallest building in the country is 117 meters and it's a hotel
>>53003979
Trondheim cathedral is pretty based. Best one in Scandinavia.
>>53004127
well, there is no point in building tall in Scandinavia, low population density
>>53004127
I like Plaza tbqh.
Had a good stay there too last summer.
>>53004223
Oslo is pretty dense, and already starting to run out of space. I don't think more towers in the centre could hurt, at least not around the two already existing ones.
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meant to reply to polskibro
>>53004223
Never been there well because I live here, where are you from anyhow?
>>53004392
I just stayed there because I wanted to know what it felt like, plus I had a buddy visiting from overseas who was curious too. I'm from Tönsberg, so not all that far away.
>>53004681
It's a nice town, been there once while on a way to a hike/camping site
>There is only 71.5% of Norwegians in Oslo
>>53005076
Most immigrants are Swedes and Poles though
>>53004902
It is pretty nice.
At least comparably, but it also has its share of flaws (like a mall taking up 50% of the town centre)
Stadium where the 1952 Olympics were hosted
>thread derailed into being about Norway and Norway only
S-Sorry
>>53005644
People havn't complained so pretty sure that it is fine m8, but have some Russia as a change of pace
>>53005895
Lived in this city for a few years, fairly nice as a Russian city
>>53005895
Why do Orthodox Churches (assuming that is one in that image) look so much like Mosques?
Where does this crossover in architectural themes stem from?
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>>53005895
Old Russian church architecture is incredibly based. Wish they'd have built a neat on Svalbard during their reign. Sad that most of the ones in the mainland got torn in favour of a religion free state.
>>53006019
Mostly, it's because Orthodox churches are shaped like a Greek cross and often have a central bell-tower
>>53006161
Yeah, it really is a shame, but at least Stalinist architecture is based
>>52992029
Downtown is nice... but the rest of Miami is a shit hole
>>52994126
Looks comfy
>>52990438
dont forget the three convinient stores in a radius of 150 m
>>53006161
Pic is the Russian Orthodox Church in Barentsburg.
OC
I have pics inside too if you want
>>53003852
Glass box
>>53006655
Post'em digits guy
Why does Belgium have such great cities?
>>53006655
Please do
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>>53006919
clean, looks nice
>>53006983
It's not a very big building as you can see
>>53007102
More Barentsburg buildings
>>53006699
Quite an ugly area lad, but at least you can catch three churches in one frame there.
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>>53007102
top comfy/10
>>53006919
Looks like Oslo, but with 1st world roads.
>>53007191
WTF is dollchan?
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>>53007220
Well, the Picasso thing is alright too.
>>53007296
That is the pool inside the community center.
While exteriors are becoming more modernized, All the interiors of the buildings in Barentsburg are still preserved Soviet area designs.
Pic related is the basketball court. They play against Longyearbyen every year (and usually lose, since LYR has ~4x as many people)
>>53007296
Actually looks passable. Did you take a dip?
Monument to the king that founded modern Oslo
Pic is the main road in my neighborhood.
What baffles me is the total lack of trees and green areas in the pics you guys are posting.
>>53007827
Another pic from nearby.
>>53007462
Last one I have time to post. The squares is something akin to "Employee of the month" awards used during Soviet times, now vacant
>>53007685
No, I didn't have time, nor did I bring a swimsuit to Svalbard, hah.
ha det bra
>>53007735
The houses in that area are actually the oldest ones of their kind in Oslo, dating back to the early 17th century. It annoys me that there is such an out of place high-rise in the middle of such a historic district.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tojbZECYmE0
Chongqing is based af
>>53007827
But we do have trees, Pedro. This is in my neighbourhood for example
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>>53007827
Norwegian cities are plentiful of trees and greenery tho
>>53008207
A little depressive tbqh :(
>>53008298
this looks much better :)
>>53008337
Comfy :3
>>53008337
>the path is made of wood
pls satisfy my autism
>>53008437
Unfortunately Oslo can be really depressive in winter
Spires are the best
>>53005644
>>thread derailed into being about Norway and Norway only
desu I'm totally fine with that as long as thread is alive
>>53006019
It's because Islamic architecture is highly inspired by Byzantine architecture(Orthodox core) and of course Russian sacred architecture is highly inspired by Byzantine architecture too.
>>53011945
you have a lot of nice pics, keep going
>>53012376
Thx. I thought i will spend the capacity of this thread quickly.
>people who don't understand that building height is a function of land value that can only be limited by zoning laws
cities should only have short buildings = autism. People like living closer to the center of cities, which leads to higher rents which makes taller buildings more profitable. It's simple economics, forcing buildings to be a shorter is a lot less efficient.
>>53012708
But on the other hand, paris and many other european cities are beautiful for the restrictions of height (and colour) of buldings. They succeed to make a lot of tourists to visit there for that.
By the way,
> Image limit reached.
>>52995726
I stayed there for a few days, crazy place. My bed was against a wall on three sides and my shower over my toilet.
Good indian restaurant there.
>>53012708
I agree. I think skyscrapers belong where there are people, thus in a city. Middle of nowhere towers kind of defeat the purpose if you ask me. The only problem is historic centres, which there are many of in Europe. Here in Norway that wouldn't be an issue with Oslo for example, as there's hardly any history left in the core part of the centre, but other European cities might suffer from this. Many new developments however take this into account by building whole villages outside of towns with proper dedicated public transit and a few high-rises to finish it off with. Either that or large tower clusters just barely outside the centre such as in Paris and Amsterdam. I think it's a decent solution, but maybe not the optimal one. It's difficult, really. Another problem naturally comes to the architecture itself, as your usual skyscrapers rarely reflect the culture of the place they're in.
