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Please, post Vocaroo recordings!
Here you can learn, study, discuss, teach, and funpost in your favorite languages, natural or conlangs.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1msvGUkl66o
>>52683508
Hello foreighnfag!
Let's take a trip to the magcal world of Toki Pona!
toki pona is a minimalist conlang with a vocabulary of around 120 words and roughly a dozen of grammar rules. It takes about an hour to start swearing and about a week to start swearing well in toki pona.
ITT, let's see if it is useable as a pidgin (one of the reasons it was invented for), excercise in semantical deconstruction (that's another reason) and translate boardspeak in toki pona!
Lessons: http://tokipona.net/tp/janpije/okamasona.php or https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Updated_jan_Pije%27s_lessons
Word list: http://tokipona.net/tp/ClassicWordList.aspx
http://sitelen-pona.herokuapp.com/
By popular request, all the rest of conlangs can be discussed here (although our conlang mastermind is asleep at the moment).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_language
http://www.glcom.com/hassan/dictionary/swahili_dictionary.html
https://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mwanzo
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Swahili_phrasebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ya2ip1-mfc
la lojban.
>redtugal
My little slice of autism.
>>52686097
>>52686055
>>52686090
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban
https://mw.lojban.org/
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/?#jbosnu,#ckule,#lojban
https://twitter.com/hashtag/lojban?src=hash
http://jbotcan.org/
>>52686123
>>52686208
.i fi'i doi do
>>52686208
>>52686916
Lojban edition:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_vkiwqOIOIJPqZTiomzd4ApUSEQXhEY6CeyZD_6c-PA/edit?pli=1#gid=1659758609
http://ayadan.moosader.com/laadan/lessons-reference/
>>52686211
>>52686259
Also https://lojban.slack.com
>>52689238
It says I have to register. Fuck that.
>>52689427
It's neat. Seems like that thing has bots which trawl through twitter etc. and posts it there.
Many people already have slack accounts anyway.
>>52689632
(Just so that no hopes are set too high: the (Western) Lojban community is tiny. The IRC, Slack, and Telegram rooms are all one and the same, held together by a couple of bots, and it's common for the room to be silent for half the day.)
>>52690705
How is it in Asia?
>>52690774
No first hand experience, but there is a reasonably active Japanese community with translated and original textbooks and published Lojban works.
http://cogas.github.io/hajiloji/
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lojban-soudan
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ponjo_lojbo_citno_girzu
https://www.youtube.com/user/lilisuno
http://guskant.github.io/yabu/html5/jbopoho.html
There were also signs of some action in China but contact was minimal and the last I heard of them was in August.
>>52691473
Cool!
How about Africa?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ithkuil/comments/3y1wqq/ithkuil_for_kids/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=559bRcVY6cM
>>52690705
I see. It's not a problem indeed, it's a complicated language.
Convince me to learn Esperanto.
>>52696127
What do you want from a language in general?
That way I can give you specific reasons and resources.
Coptic revival when?
>>52696987
When you revive it.
Step 1: Learn Coptic.
Step 2: Make babies.
Step 3: Teach them Coptic.
>>52694600
>Ithkuil
>for kids
*Twinkle, twinkle little star* song in Ithkuil, gee.
mi pilin ike tan ni: tenpo suli li tenpo suno tu la mi lukin ala e sina mute. sina lon la mi pilin pona. toki!
>>52689427
mi tawa supa lape kin. tenpo suno la mi lon. mi tawa.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ugnGpQtlGs
>the snow glows white on the mountain tonight
nif binos vietik su bele asoaro
>not a person at the place
nek pösod etuvos iso
>a kingdom that is so sad
regän das binob so lügik
>but am i the queen?
ab jiregi binob-li?
>the wind can't be kept away from me
vien kanos binöm pekipöl veg de obe
>land covered in winter, my kingdom
laned petegöl me nifüpe, regän obik.
>I can't let them learn
Kanob nenik omis lärnön
>about the secret, it is dangerous
tefü kläne, binos riskädik
>a secret to keep, not to seem
klän ad kipön, nek jinön
>they have learned
ons elärnons
>>52697783
>I let go, I let go
dälob golön, dälob golön
>and go from the evil
e golob se bade
>I let go, I let go
dälob golön, dälob golön
>I must close the door (lit: finish the entrance)
Mütob fimekön nügalöp
>I say to the comments, they aren't important
>(lit: I say to the speech, that it isn't important)
Pükob püke, das on binon nek veütik
>and the storm goes on
e tep golos su
>the ice cold doesn't harm me anyways
gladik kold dunos badik obi egelo
>it's funny how the distance
binon nulälik kio vütim
>makes all seem small
mekos valik jinön smalik
>and the fears that had power on me
e dreds das älabons magiv su obe
>they can't get to me
okanonsös getön obe
>>52697883
>It's time to see, what I can do.
Binon tüp logön, kis konob deidön.
>The magic of my posibilities to show.
Magiv mögodas obik logön.
>No right or no wrong for me.
No verätik no neverätik por ob.
>I am free.
Libik binob.
>I let go, I let go
dälob golön, dälob golön
>I am a girl with the wind and the sky
Binob pul ko viena e ko sila
>I let go, I go free
dälob golön, golob libik
>>52696987
Native Egyptians first needs a state, like Assyrians :)
>>52697783
>>52697883
>>52698022
>Volapük paspiköl (9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYN8j8-Occ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYN8j8-Occ
>>52698043
>No independent Kemet-Egypt, instead shitty arabic imposters
>No good sources to get knowledgable of Coptic or Assyrian
;_;
>>52698466
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_language
>>52696907
Superb!
>>52683508
The red part looks like poortugal
>>52699675
sina o sina pilin e seme? mi jan Losi insa e linja ona.
taso mi wile lape. tenpo suno la mi wile moku e telo nasa.
>>52699671
Fuck off you Aussie shill. :3
>>52699860
Translation please?
Volapuk tan
>>52700443
Roughly 'what do you think, I'm the Russian guy in that thread. but I have to sleep now, tomorrow I have to drink rum'.
>>52696127
Don't, learn Lojban instead.
>>52700745
.i'e ko cpacu lo re kabri lo tcati
>>52700631
Good night.
>>52700745 >>52700861
Lojbant tan!
Is anyone here planning on learning Common Honey?
bamp
>>52703125
https://listserv.brown.edu/conlang.html
>>52692870
If there are any African Lojbanists then they must be well hidden.
>>52694600
>I have been making a simplified grammar supplement that uses words that are less complex
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G1JNPvBwDlI4N_uTtCFWhtsf5kCJCCgMQbex99IwbTs/edit?usp=sharing
This could be quite a step for the language if done properly. The official reference reads like it was intended to scare away all but the most determined.
>>52702352
Anonymous is following the thread and will at least try to taste any text that appears in the honey.
>>52683508
What is the actual usefulness of Arabic in today's world, apart from joining ISIS?
There's a Beginner Arabic course next semester for the impressive price of 75.89 USD. Should I go for it?
>>52703944
>If there are any African Lojbanists then they must be well hidden.
This is true of all invented languages. I know there are some Esperanto groups in Africa, but they are very rare.
>>52703944
>Anonymous is following the thread and will at least try to taste any text that appears in the honey.
Feel free to join! Half of the people are busy with this stupid new thing called "real life", so we could always use someone to pick up their slack.
Where are the Russians?
>>52705859
Dude it's 11 AM, they sleep. :3
>>52705859
mi en meli mi li lon supa li toki lili.
>>52708787
toki kepeken toki pona anu seme?
>>52708787
meli sina li meli pilin anu seme?
>>52708954
kepeken toki Losupan :D
ala, tenpo ni la mi toki ala e ona e toki pona... mi sona pi tenpo lili e ona. mi en ona li lukin e sitelen tawa.
sewi
How many of you know a real language outside of conlangs?
>>52713383
I took french in High School, I can still read it for the most part.
>>52713383
Almost none of us desu. We are retarded.
>>52703963
I don't think it's useful at all nowadays. There's not any notable literature in Arabic, no music, no movies, etc. Unless you plan on going full Allahu Akbar, the only reason you would learn Arabic is out of pure linguistic interest and curiosity
>>52686208
You translated that yourself or you got the scripts or something like that? There's some weird word choices in the Portuguese part
>>52720764
This desu. They stopped being relevant in XIV century or so. Study Yiddish instead.
>>52720929
>learning jew german
I'm trying to improve my Spanish and want to play an MMO or something similar. I've looked into Runescape, which I used to play years ago, but they seem to have stopped supporting Spanish language servers. I've been playing League of Legends, but the game is cancerous and doesn't offer many opportunities to read the text.
Are there any other decent free-to-play games in Spanish?
>>52726571
>play an MMO
Start editing Wikipedia.
>>52703963
It's a fun language honestly
>>52707974
>sleeping until 11 am
>>52713383
My nephew is half Hispanic, so I know a few sentences of Spanish.
>>52713383
I speak English and Korean, but Esperanto is the only conlang I've ever studied.
sa'u no'u fei rau ze'e sei fei zu'a ma'u xi su zo toi vau ni'o zu ki koi se kau io nai koi fu'o bau pe'i du'i pa no no io vi ui re jau fei ci gai ui mu gai tu'o ii vai pai mei pe'e jo jau ji'o uo coi jai xu ga'a pau sa'o cu'o de ve bu'o soi fo'e tu bau cau se ba'u ro'i coi ue fe ue za'a to'i fo'o xu zei cei ue sei ze ke ke da'o me do fi ki re sai se ni gai re ze'u so'o ma'u moi fe ma'u ki no sa gai re fei pai sa ju ga'a mau fi'e ti ra cai fo za ma pe fi lu lai ze sa'u de le'o fi da tai uu
>>52731352
Please, use the denpa bu.
Qui /parlefrancais/ ici? Que peut m'aider? Je utilise déjà Duolingo. J'aimerais parler couramment un jour...
Hardest language I've ever learned.
(sample text)
>>52732940
Il y a longtemps, j'ai étudié le français à l'école, mais après avoir fini j'ai oublié presque tout ce que j'ai appris et qui est nécessaire pour communiquer. Même lire des textes simples en français, c'est difficile maintenant. De l'autre côté, si on me donne un verbe irrégulier, c'est pas rare que je peux le conjuguer. Ça, on lui dit «adaptation évolutionnaire».
>>52732984
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ithkuil/comments/3ycyt8/improving_the_community/
>>52733556
Interessant. Où habites-tu en Suisse? Quelle langue(s) parles-tu?
>>52735322
Toutersoit d'une comixtioncéducunembrelles mait du vorté, et de proit du, soutelcont aite ons haqui chomme bielaie amentradant, de assa la celle uni de oure se des re et formairelus droté.
>>52737645
what the fuck is this
>>52738074
It is French.
>>52739764
Maybe very ancient or obscure french, but there's no way this is french from today.
>>52740114
French sounding but not french at all
>>52740065
Check this. https://www.reddit.com/user/someperson101/submitted/
>>52740114
>>52740239
Such is life.
>>52740316
If you don't know french don't post texts saying that it is french even though it isn't...
>>52737645
>>52739764
I'm curious did you copy/paste this from somewhere or did you actually type out french sounding words and combine them
>>52740542
>implying
>>52740946
Or?
>>52741551
Tss, you're stupid
who here /forgot native language/ ?
i used to be an expert at arabic but now im just conversational. feelsbadman
>go to /lang/
>it's full of /conlang/s
Jesus...
>>52741845
they need their own thread
/FAKE/FRAUD LANGS GENERAL/
>>52741919
They need their own thread but let's not be rude
>>52741919
>>52741845
See >>52742050
>>52741954
All languages are languages.
>>52742088
They pass everything as "language" nowadays....cheeky bastards
>>52742350
Vidu >>52740316
>>52697631
Mi pilin e ni: sina e kute uta li pona
"I feel this: your voice is nice"
Is this correct? Any grammar advice?
>>52740114
>>52740114
Not that guy but it looks like french to me, what's wrong with it?
>>52743798
It looks like french but none of these words is actually a real word, it makes no sense at all
Hey guys, let's invent out own language, and pretend we master it fluently while posting.
>2015
>kaa tešne oke salašerteneek trannyporn-kas antaŋaloitaa
>eleekaš oke süli eŋokaa
>>52744053
>2015
>Inventer une langue
>"Mais je suis polyglotte"
>>52744053
São bü shì-kas mi-aa?
Od bi kazh immeek dorne?
>>52744144
Köl druf.
>>52744144
>fransaneek
>kaa homosex
>EOSE
>>52744164
>Od bi kazh immeek dorne?
Sül oke neli tešak taŋasüük, kaa sül ekleataak.
>>52744053
>>52744144
>>52744164
>lamamama na lamanomari Pamela Pisari ne lamapapa na mama Rabi Tili ne papa na sademoma Bili Desad ne ad piro :
I dreamed that a mother-llama and a llamaria, named respectively "Pamela" and "Pizzeria", a father-llama and my mother, named respectively "Robby" and "Tilly", my father and a museum of sadism, named respectively "Billy" and "De Sade", were on fire.
>>52744053
>>52744572
>>52744352
>Ba ba ba ba barbra an ba ba ba tay eek mai han barbra an yu gott me rochin ana rolin rochen ana relin braba an
>wen to a dans lukin foromans sa braba an ani thoti taka chans braba an
Bechboiyz speke 2015
>>52744802
ðenke ðæt Canada an chsheorl is.
>>52744881
am piggin up gud vie brashinz. Shie giv in mi egz I tay shins
>>52744802
This is the best Toki Pona spin-off parody of 2015.
>>52702352
https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=conlang;f9e149ed.1512d
https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=conlang;e521b74.1512d
Is it true that one shouldn't learn two similar languages at the same time?
>>52747009
Probably.
>>52745151
>iferebudy ad anoshen, uhcrosa yewesay
>thenerebudy bi serrfin, likalifor ny ay
That's Beachi Bona for thank you friend, may you catch a wave into the kingdom of heaven
>>52747646
>>52747802
>roun roun gitaroun aygit aroun yaaauh gitaroun woohoo aygitaroun
Ima reelcoo heeea, ima kin realgud bred
>>52748731
Take you language to >>>/mu/ and start a revolution. :D
>>52696127
All I can say is it's a hobby and it's pretty fun if you're kind of nerdy already. Most people into it are friendly. I also like the fact that I now have lots of online friends in countries that would be considered rare flags here, e.g. lots of African countries and lots of people from Asia. I like chatting with someone casually and then find out they are from Madagascar and would be happy to have me visit them someday. Pic related, it's some of the Esperanto speakers from East Timor, which I assume is not a common flag on /int/.
>>52749900
>lots of African countries
I only know of a couple African countries with an active Esperanto movement.
Hook me up.
>>52750336
You should look around on Facebook and Ipernity. I don't want to give out a bunch of my friends' names but I found most of them on those sites. The countries where most African peeps seem to be from are Demoratic Republic of the Congo, Togo, Benin, and Burundi. They also tend to use "old" looking websites but they keep them updated. I used to have a friend who was in DR Congo, fleeing as a refugee from a war or something in another country and I haven't heard from him in years :S
Togo: http://esperanto-en-togolando.jimdo.com/turisma-servo/
Instituto Zamenhof in Togo: http://www.esperantofre.com/izo/index.htm
^ That is a school where they teach kids a little esperanto among their general education, seems the same as La Bona Volo in Brazil, I have talked to one of the people that runs it
Esperanto-centro en Burundo: http://www.ipernity.com/blog/stanislavo-belov/372317
^ Will post pics of this, it's a library that they built in Burundi as an Esperanto center. A Polish guy went on a trip there and took some photos.
Benin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-wviYiy6vk
http://www.ipernity.com/search/photo?w=0&q=benino
>>52750721
Dumping Polish dude's Burundi trip
>>52750721
>You should look around on Facebook
How about no.
>>52750750
>>52750760
suit yourself, but that's how most people are arranging events and making plans for hosting guests and such.
>>52750807
>>52750750
>>52750765
>>52750807
Rude question: Do African Esperantists find the language to be excessively Eurocentric or is that something that only bothers Americans?
>>52750823
>>52750835
The African Esperanto speakers that I have talked with haven't mentioned that, and from that I can tell they often seem to speak French, among several other languages, and when in doubt seem to mix French and Esperanto a little bit but with no complaint. And also almost every African esperanto speaker I have talked to seems to be religious or at least likes to add "God bless you" and "my dear friend" and other things like that to their letters.
I have definitely spoken with Asian esperanto speakers who say that aspects of the language are difficult for them specifically because thy dont have a european language background. I may have saved a post like that because I'm an autist
>>52750939
That is a pretty sweet collection of books.
>>52750939
This is the last of Polishfriend's pictures but I have lots of random pics of esperanto clubs in different rare flags so perhaps I will post some
>>52750960
Sadly I haven't heard from my Burundian friends since all that conflict was going on there recently (this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_1BonVfKY ) I talked to one friend who lives there a small bit about it back in June but he didnt have much to say
here is the Zamenhof Institute in Togo
This is the "Malagasa Campaign for Korea 2017", it was tl;dr for me but it's pretty much the Madagascar club looking for people to sponsor one of their club members, to that they can send one young person to the Esperanto congress that's going to be in Korea in 2017.
>>52751150
How much does it cost?
This is my favorite picture because everyone looks pretty funny in their traditional clothing but it looks fun. This was at the congress in Vietnam.
>>52751203
It says they need about 2500 euros to cover the flight and varous expenses, the candidate they choose will not just go to the congress but will also take the fluency exam, get to know some active people in esperanto affairs to gain some useful experience for arraging their organization back in Madagascar.
this is another one I saved because the people looked like they were having alot of fun, it's from a get-together in Nepal. For some reason lately I feel like I am meeting alot of Esperanto speakers from Nepal though im not sure I know anyone in this pic
A guy in DR Congo teaching an Esperanto class
>>52751341
Do they accept Paypal?
Here is a guy posting from Togo a few days ago, google translated:
On 18 December 2015 was a special day in Institute Zamenhof. While the students celebrated the end of the first quarter, Esperantists going the way of Zamenhof and therefore working for the spread and use of Esperanto acquainted within Institute Zamenhof. Those Esperanto speakers came to Togo from several countries of the world. If one is Centrafikano now living in Cameroon, another is DRKongolandano now living in Burundi and Rwanda. Oh, yes third is malagaso and came from Madagascar. More is now expected. This already come impromptu found again at the same table with additional Esperantist, Italian, living in Svislando.
>>52751686
It doesn't say on there, but that first email adress they listed is a French guy who is apparently handling the contributions for them, you could probably email him to find out. In my experience when I have sent stuff to African esperantists it's usually through other means than Paypal although I think I have used Paypal with someone before.
What should I do, learn French because it's our second official language or learn Spanish because of muh heritage?
>>52751986
I can send between $50 and $100 USD. It isn't much but my insurance increased and work will be sparse during January.
>>52751997
Learn Spanish. French is only good for France and Africa.
>>52752010
Neat that's nice of you. I sent I think $30 to the students in Benin, so one kid could buy their school materials. That was all I had to spare at the time but they still emailed me to thank me and mentioned me in their little end of the school year newsletter thing thanking me among the other smaller contributers. I didn't realize they even had a newsletter. Felt good man. Now I have come up a little and I think it would be cool to support these Madagascar guys, I want to see if one of their candidates might be someone I know then I would definitely like to help send them.
>>52751997
I think Spanish is more useful, and you will be able to fairly easily understand French when you know English and Spanish.
>>52751997
French will make Spanish trivial
>>52741845
>>52741919
>>52741954
Haven't seen you here for a couple of weeks all natural boiz. Shall we have the thread and study whatever the fuck we want here and talk about natural languages when someone is interested in them?
>>52752372
Welcome back!
Yes, anyone may speak any language they want but nobody is obligated to care.
>>52752438
I mean I've been here all the time and it was just we the autists. The real language crowd would only show up to shitpost. :3
>>52686097
Watch this artlanger scum get destroyed by selckiku.
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/324j8j/cmv_lojban_is_inferior_to_natural_languages_and/cq96aaw
http://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/2014/12/esperanto-speakers-gather-in-ho-chi-minh-city/
post stories of your learned language being useful to you pls
>>>52752495
I've learned English so I can shitpost on 4chan.
I also listened to German music a lot, and now know shit like Dunkelheit and Finsternis and Tod but can't order a beer in German desu.
I don't understand why anyone would want to learn a made up language. But a Swede wrote to me in something called Medslovanski and it was alright. But only because it's not really made up, it just takes words from all Slavic languages.
Oi m8ts
