Was at Anime Expo 2016 this year, which had over 500 artists in Artist Alley. Why do so many artists spam unoriginal ideas so often? There are certainly some artists who stand out, but I'd say a good 80% of them at every artist alleys I go to do the same chibi, cute, or sexy waifus year after year and it's completely unoriginal.
What I noticed missing was art like pic related. Renascence-era styled artwork with fine details, and accurate symmetry. I saw virtually none of that, and if there was anything like that, the artist used did a very simple, plain, piece with crude brush strokes that looked more 19th century. Is that too hard for some of these so called artists? Or are stupid fucking waifus drawn in slightly different poses over 9000 times the only thing they can come up with?
For example, why not have all your favorite waifus conversing at a beautifully drawn pub or train station? Afraid it won't sell as much because you're isolating your customer base and it's not personalized enough? I don't believe so. That will appeal to everyone. I think it makes a huge difference and would make you as an artist stick out among the sea of waifu drawings. Artwork like that stands out and sparks the imagination and makes the viewer think deeply. A self portrait of Tracer doing a sexy pose is nothing and doesn't make me think as the viewer and is no better than a pinup girl poster.
And don't cite the Monalisa. I get it she was the original waifu .
MAKES YOU THINK
>>2591563
>a majority people have different tastes
how dare they
>>2591563
Are you retarded?
>>2591563
>Why does ANIME expo have so many ANIME-inspired artstyles with waifus
Wew lad, do we really have to explain it?
go to THU if you want different styles
What do you expect from an anime con?
>>2591563
> why do people like what I don't like
> why don't people like what I like
>>2591563
>Renascence-era styled artwork with fine details, and accurate symmetry. I saw virtually none of that, and if there was anything like that, the artist used did a very simple, plain, piece with crude brush strokes that looked more 19th century
CRINGING
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>>2591563
I agree with OP
I know someone that was at the artist alley at AX and their work is pretty much devoid of any actual deep though. They're an airhead, and it shows very well in the things they draw.
Now I'm not saying drawing waifus/pinup/lewd stuff is bad. It's just that the market is saturated with all that stuff already. So why should anyone care if you or the next person can draw a waifu from someone's published work when there is thousand of artist that already do that?
People do need to vary things a bit, step outside their boundaries and if they want to draw waifus, then they should at least draw them in a way that it shows that the artist can put actual thought and skill into their creative works.
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>>2591622
SEE:
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>>2591583
I rarely see drawings like that. It's anime inspired, but with greater detail and depth.
>>2591734
>Now I'm not saying drawing waifus/pinup/lewd stuff is bad. It's just that the market is saturated with all that stuff already. So why should anyone care if you or the next person can draw a waifu from someone's published work when there is thousand of artist that already do that?
Exactly. I have TONS of waifu drawings, I even bought at least 4 this year and I absolutely love them. But holy shit is it over saturated. Can artists draw something different like my examples I posted? My wallet is ready goddamnit.
I saw many artists booths with little activity. If you're that sort of artist and struggling with sales, you really have no other choice but the evolve and differentiate yourself next year from the competition. That's how business works. If you hate doing more detailed, complex drawings, then don't do them, or continue making next to nothing year after year.
>>2591734
>They're an airhead, and it shows very well in the things they draw.
Kim Jung Gi draw guro and bdsm. He's maniac and serial killer.
Also I'm deep person abd i draw peic deep art :^
Just remind yourself that you're expecting low life anime trash to produce anything close to high art.
Virtually no one today is painting like the Renaissance painters. Not even the "academic" painters today who value the old masters do, no matter how much they claim tradition from that era.
It would be even more of a sacrilege to draw anime in Renaissance style.
>>2591563
>goes to Anime Expo 2016
>expects to find Renascence-era styled artwork with fine details...
OP is definitely trolling or mentally challenged.
>>2591851
He post pictures from "HD wallpapers site", so it's real
>>2591837
>Virtually no one today is painting like the Renaissance painters.
Bait
>>2591563
>complaining about quality of art and originality at a consumer driven event like Anime Expo
Why?
I wish I could've gone to AX just to get a commission from Kinuko...
>wishes I had a cool artist gf like kinucakes ;-;
>>2591563
So, what you want is concept art?
>>2591780
pinups are easy and sell well
a sweet environment shot from a nice angle with a ton of characters can easily take ten times as long to do
>>2591810
Kim Jung Gi actually shows that he has built up skill from years of drawing and you can tell he is constantly trying to get better even though he's already at a very professional level.
He can draw MORE than just guns and bdsm. He's not a one trick pony that just draws boring or generic waifu pandering shots with no interesting background or composition like most people at artist booths in cons.
He's a professional, and most of these "artist" don't even bother with learning from the old masters or breaking the mold from just "I can draw waifus for money like millions of weebs out there"
>>2591867
Girls that draw anime are trashy attention whores.
They may not seem like it because they have that "cute exterior" but they just like the attention they get from people because they can draw and they're a girl and that's pretty much all they have going for them. Their art is at most times mediocre.
There are better artist out there, and better girls that draw for more than just attention whoring or mindless pandering. Those are so rare though that they might as well be non-existent.
>>2591923
If I draw circle that means I can't draw square?)))
>>2591857
Yup.
>>2591857
It's true. Unless you think to paint somewhat realistically is to paint like the Renaissance masters. How many painters even read and apply Alberti's De Pictura? How many even understand the significance?
Painting Renaissance requires a certain nobility that very few have the fortune of acquiring, much less anime artists.
>>2591980
How many modern artists you know without wikipedia? All nations.
>>2591940
lol - you clearly have no idea who your talking about, she does animation and is a part of a small game studio. She doesnt just draw "cute girls for guys attention".
It's easy to make and it sells. This is like asking why IKEA sells crappy furniture instead of expensive handcrafted one of a kind works of art. Animu girls is what the masses want to consume.
>>2592015
I believe some autists really think Renaissance-era artworks was not for masses
>80% of them are freelance
>pandering to specific themes and audience
>>2591940
please tell me what art is for other than attention
>>2591940
post your work
inb4 flash me
>>2592015
There's also the fact that he went to an ANIME con, specifically for anime.
That's like going to to a pizza shop and asking why they don't serve fondue.
>>2592030
>other than attention
Let's completly ignore all the good feelings that the artist experiences such as inner peace or excitement. I'm sure there are artists out there who don't crave or even seek for attention.
But I don't completely disagree with >>2591940 but he's being pretty autistic with the >hurr durr why anime trash gets more attention than my favourite artists hurr derr
>>2592155
Whom are you quoting?
op is a fag
>>2591563
Agreed with OP, would be nice to have more detailed-anime works around
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>>2592202
>people eat up generic anime girl shit like it's gold
>takes no effort
>takes no creativity
Gee I wonder why it's so popular
Anything you're asking for OP is stuff that absolutely won't sell. You're an idiot. Artist Alley is not high art, it's meant to sell art to fucking weebs.
>>2592205
I think you're overestimating the general audience at anime cons. Most of them are 12 year old weebs who live for cute anime gurlz and moe shit. They'd prefer getting such over high quality art like these.
>>2592213
Also overestimating the artists. Sure there are some professional artists in there but anyone regardless of skill can get a booth in the artist alley if they pay for a table. Should think of it more like a local art fair then a fine art gallery.
>mixing waifus up
>backgrounds
Absolutely retarded OP. The purpose of drawing cute 2D women is so that you can own them completely. If you add others or a background, then they belong to the scene instead of you. Why not instead of propagandizing your opinions draw what you want to be drawn.
>>2592000
I've seen a lot, but none of them I spend much thinking of, when there are far superior artists from the past. I've met successful artists who claim to paint in the Renaissance mode and who indeed know how to paint. Yet I'm always disappointed. Your question assumes a position that I should spend any considerable time in actively looking up and remembering artists of the types which I find so lacking in many respects to begin with. Renaissance-type artists are an outlier today even among traditional painters. There are vastly more people who follow Baroque and the 19th century academics.
>>2591583
>the "stairs" at the red vending machine machine
no way that would happen
>>2591563
A lot of the more popular artists had booths in the Exhibition hall. The ChinAnime group had 6 booths and they sold a bunch of Chinese artist works including RA's.
>>2592195
>>2592200
>>2592202
>>2592205
>>2592210
The artists at this level would be selling in the Exhibition Hall or selling them through an agent.
Rei(Sanbonzakura) was in the Exhibition Hall selling her stuff in person. The ones in the Artist Alley are there for a reason, either not good enough or didn't realize you could get an exhibition booth at 4.5x the price.
>>2592259
Post names lmao.
>I blah-blah-blah
>I blah-blah
>>2592155
Shut up OP.
>>2592801
This
and character design is a more common thing (and easier/faster produced for the small attentionspans people have) then architecture/landscapes/full illustrations
Instead of pumping out 1 high quality piece (see: frank franzetta) people tend to like drawing more pieces and getting their ideas(characters) out faster (see: Loish)
>>2591563
Selling at cons is a buisness. The people doing it know their audience and sell what that audience wants to buy. Some IC NEET complaining about the images being boring or lame doesn't actually matter in the real world. (that thing outside your moms basement.)
No one is going to produce work they know won't sell as well as another when it's all about making money. I'm sure they do try new things here and there to see how well they sell but ultimately phase out unwanted images in lieu of better selling prints.
If some intellectual online, who sits around and does nothing but wax poetic on why one arts is better than another, thinks something is dumb it doesn't mean real buisness men and women will gamble their income on it. They're the ones out there interfacing with the customer at every con seeing in real time what sells and what doesn't. Do you honestly believe that no one else has tried your 'revolutionary' idea? Seriously? You need to get out of your basement and see more of the world, I think you have a vastly over inflated view of how intelligent you are.
The real world is very simple, people do what works, period. If you want to try something new, or claim what someone is doing is wrong, it's on you to risk the time/money test your theory. What you're doing is arm chair quarterbacking like a little bitch telling someone how their successful buisness is wrong.
>Entitlement: The Thread
p.s: Normies don't care about IC's autist fixation on detail and technique.
>>2592923
>Being this mad over someone who's right
Were you one of the shit artist at the alley?
