Rotate and resize your fucking images edition
Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.
AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.
Visit the usual "Artbook Thread" to find your desired books. (Or look in the new sticky)
Do not forget to PLEASE RESIZE and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.
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There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfDTpLLVl5bWUGWguswKpPFml533luI8-NBd1EGYHnA/edit
>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
Old thread: >>2564228
lil mecha shit prob too far outta reach for us tho
>>2567201
i want one piece fags to leave
>>2567193
honestly you shouldnt post this.
>>2567206
don't you have an intermediate thread to attend to
>>2567207
i never fucking made that one you faggot
>>2567206
Why not?
First time drawing in a month or two and I only started drawing this around AM before I slept. Let me have it. Can't draw hands or hair worth a damn, but I'm willing to improve.
Also, Is plagueofgripes correct in saying artbooks are a sham? He said they are because they only teach people how to draw characters in a certain angle, but when asked to draw them in a separate angle, they wouldn't know how.
I'm also a complete newbie to sai so any tips would greatly be appreciated.
>>2567208
>nose bro attempting damage control
Lmao
>>2567213
That sexy degenerate was half right. 'Draw the rest of the fucking owl books' are bullshit. Books that teach theory and HOW to draw not WHAT to draw are books you should be reading.
any good books on how to draw heads other than loomis?
>>2567214
why would i fucking post a drawing twice on 4c?
>>2567213
read the sticky
check back in a week or two
>>2567213
plagueofgripes is a sham; good art books teach you how to think in 3d. go through proko on youtube and ... borrow michael hampton, vilppu, loomis (his stuff is free tho iirc)
Is there a formula I can follow to get consistency at multiple angles for characters?
I'm really struggling to get a 3/4 view for animals.
Any tips or tutorials would be appreciated.
>>2567237
learn perspective and then construct the face, it'll help your furry art endeavours
This is my first time drawing and I'm probably way in over my head and all proportions are off, but I'll send this anyhow. So feel free to destroy me s-senpai
Since it's not really clear what's going on in the composition, it'll feature silhouettes of a man and two women on a field of narcissuses, with their spirit animals lying besides them. The guy's in love with both women but can't open up to neither, and that translates to the scene as the women simply observe the man while he struggles to get his bear to wake up from its hibernation.
The reason I wanted to replace actual bodies with silhouettes was because I wanted to emphasize their feelings and personalities; the man would be entirely black with flames inside, both contoured in red, while the woman on the left would be in orange-yellow light, signifying a fiery and enthusiastic personality, and the right one in yellow-white light, signifying purity and piousness.
Does using silhouettes come off as laziness? Also, does it all sound too cheesy?
>>2567237
Kill yourself fucking furfag
>>2567262
>narcissuses
Daffodils. Anyway, writing stories to draw comes later when you know what you're doing. Right now you should be churning out so many drawings that you don't have time to be thinking up stories.
>>2567263
It's not for furry shit, that stuff revolts me. I was roped into helping make concept art for an animation that features a fucking raccoon. As in the actual animal not some human hybrid shit.
I wish furfags killed themselves too.
If I was making furshit there's probably other resources for tips I'd turn to.
>>2567262
You might want to slow down a bit. This scale of work is not easy to put together. Based on the sketch it looks nearly impossible for you to nail. I'm not trying to push you down, but these features show your weaknesses and you cannot expect that decent outcome.
First of all, that sketch is nearly started, it's hard to get your point from one minute scribble. Why dont you come back later, when you have actually done something?
Your anatomy is really off and stiff, its hard to get emotions through without a proper body language. Even those stick figures are badly off. Try searching for photos, that match your idea and study every person separately.
You haven't even started the animal, how are we supposed to understand?
Composition is almost impossible to understand from that, now it looks way too even and without a point of interest.
Pic related, that guys pose reminds me a bit of this. If nothing else, take a pic of yourself and figure it out.
>>2567275
this
Hi guys, been gone for a while And I would like a little critique on a wip I'm working on. I'm thinking making the idol smaller will help the feel of this. thoughts?
First time posting, I finally went out to draw something in a park near my town. I can see several things wrong but I wanted to share it if you had anything to add:
>lines aren't that straight
>window above the door is fucked up
>trees don't look much like trees
>technique is poor so lots of strokes in shadows where it should be smooth tones
I'm gonna post this again, cause i have no idea how to render at all. Any tips?
>>2567442
not my image, but i had this downloaded
fuck, am I even doing this right?
>>2567192
Back at it again at Drawing Circles.
>>2567229
Attention
>>2567563
more circles
Still trying to get rid of my symbol drawing
>>2567574
thinking i need long and convoluted posts to get attention
>>2567541
Thanks man.
>>2567581
These were drawn with my wrist.
>>2567679
and then i drew faces
>>2567691
And now I draw circles traditionally
>>2567237
Follow your own fucking lines at least.
Then kill yourself.
holy fuck loomis did need a whole book just to talk about heads. do i need to master all of it to make silly cartoons?
Is this good for a guy that just bought a $76 drawing tablet?
>>2567750
And now I'm drawing this abortion of a scene to get more work on lighting also proportions
pls help.
>>2567727
>do i need to master all of it to make silly cartoons?
it depends, do you want to make disney-tier cartoons or rather calarts/adventuretime/stevenuniverse-tier cartoons.
>>2567769
I just wanna draw CIRNO dammit.
>>2567769
probably more accurate to say disney. adventure time is too simple for what i'm aiming for
AmIFeelingItNow?
>>2567204
what?
>>2567743
Is that bomber man?
>>2567790
which one
>>2567768
>>2567743
please observe the post and image limit of each thread
>>2567791
Middleish left one with the two eyes
>>2567815
Don't worry about that shit on a slow board.
>>2567819
it's a subtle way of saying if he wants to post his shit he can compile them into one image
just makes things look neat
Does anyone know of a good set of poses for practicing the bean?
I'm currently trying to do the DrawABox thing. I'm currently on the first "real" drawing part, the drawing plants. I seem to be having problems seeing space. My from-life drawing suffer from the same issue. Should I keep grinding or add something to better understand volume?
>>2567285
anyone know the artist of this picture?
Sorry moving this question here and no matter what I do my phone keeps sending out my pictures sideways:
So I have begun to work on the drawabox exercises to help improve my work and while I know it take a heck of a while to get good at it I just want to know 2 thing what's a good rough estimate on doing each of the drawabox exercises and homework (at least for the first lesson) and second I keep hearing about how a person should use their arm to draw but I have a hard time understanding the motions one would use to build that muscle memory up if someone could get back to me on this that would be great
how's this?
>>2567942
periods and punctuation are great tools
>>2567949
The anon is only asking a question.
Whenever I draw digitally I do chicken scratch to get a general form going, then once I've got the sketch done I make a new layer and trace of the chicken scratch with smoother lines. Is this a bad habit or not?
rate my igor
>>2567983
Same here. I want to know the answer as well.
>>2567983
No, although it is time consuming. The more you draw and the more confident you are with lines then you're gonna be able to make a clean sketch without doing what you're doing now.
wip
anatomy crit appreciated
>>2568021
Autist face. Head cut off at the top. Not balanced. One arm tiny. Legs too short unless you're drawing a midget.
>>2568026
thanks senpai but what do you mean by not balanced?
>>2568021
No real knowledge of anatomy or 3d shapes
Study up buckaroo
any comments?
probably could have made the body face towards her right more but i couldn't really tell until i took a photo of it and put it side by side
just starting with colour
>>2568064
I recommend Keys to Drawing.
>>2567201
*heavy breathing*
>>2568064
You gotta work on just drawing what you see before you work on construction -- Look at the angle of the shoulder, the negative space on her right, the shape of her chin.
See http://imgur.com/gallery/0O7P8gu
>>2567206
>honestly you shouldnt post this
Honestly you should learn how to capitalize the beginning of your sentences and not forget your apostrophe in the word "shouldn't". You should also avoid sounding like a twelve year old.
>>2567750
You need to practise perspective. Look at the body of the machine gun and then look at the triple barrel, the angle is slightly off. Same for the feet and arm.
I give up. I don't like drawing. It's too difficult, boring, and frustrating. Shame on me for wasting other anon's time showing my awful shit.
>>2567788
You're exaggerating the curves way too much. The thighs look like a bunch of potatoes in a sack.
>>2568097
aaaaaaaand another one bites the dust
>>2567942
The line drawing exercise should be done for 10 minutes a day until you can stay on the line. Drawabox says to just do 2 pages of it for homework but it's not an exercise you do once. Right now you're lines are really not good. Not sure about "using your arm to draw" but the way i understand it you can lock your wrist and rotate your elbow instead for longer lines, like half an A4 page long.
>>2568106
Thanks for the info and for the criticism I'm running myself ragged trying to get this down, and having other people to help me is alway great!
>>2567192
Starting head and hands and the rotating axis of the sphere fucked me up so I started practicing it.
On a side note, when doing the reimposed line exercise like >>2567942 my hand always stutters. Does this mean I try doing it a little faster? I'm already drawing from arm with wrist locked
>>2568119
also a few hands
Aside from the head where do I need to improve this?
I'm starting to thing loomis skeletons aren't helping and are causing me to symbol draw or I just don't understand how they should be constructed well enough
>>2568099
It's fun though haha.
But yah I should probably keep that in mind
>>2568137
A couple of things. She isn't actually as bulky as you depicted her. You showed striations but no vascularity. And her torso is more swayed in the reference.
Hopefully this was more helpful than the super vague advice /ic/ usually gives.
>>2568137
Thoughts? First time drawing since middle school
>>2568161
So how do I learn anatomy? Loomis teaches how to draw what's on my mind but it's no use if I don't know how the bodies should be
>>2568137
The head is terrible, and it's not just about the features. It also reflects the problem you have with the rest. You still aren't drawing what you see. Take a moment to superimpose your drawing over the reference, and you'll see it.
![cfb9b51720[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/q8nq9t8.jpg "cfb9b51720[1].jpg")
Idk what I'm doing. Help.
>>2568164
Why is his neck so fucking long?
>>2568166
How did you learn to draw the head?
Day 3 of drawing breast and torso
>>2568137
what youve done to the body is just as bad as what youve done to the head
trying to draw from imagination for once. Crits?
>>2568245
Fun fact about slav squats: the posture you used has only front of the feet on the ground with heels lifted up. If you want to use your whole feet, your posture will be much deeper and your butt far lower, almost as if sitting. Try it yourself.
>>2567198
I came here so people could point at me and laugh
>>2568308
bawk BAWK
>>2568245
Another; I fucked up the skin hue thou.
>>2568298
At least the feet are on the ground, like they should be if you're a true slav.
>>2568298
Thanks for the advice. I shouldave run through some ref pictures before drawing.
>>2567934
lworbit.tumblr.com
>>2567201
Trying something new. I should probably construct first and then draw over that.
>>2568088
waste of time
How is it going so far ?
That's my first painting without any reference
>>2568064
Why did you draw her lungs?
is this alright
>>2567789
Admirals in one piece are based on real actors
People believe this guy is the new unshown admiral
I have a question about symbol drawing.
It's discouraged to draw things as you imagine them to look like rather than how they look like, but how is it that American animation besides Disney draws just like that (i.e. very simple forms) and people draw inspiration from them? Shouldn't the drawing style of shows like The Simpsons and Family Guy be chastised and shunned in the art community?
>>2568458
It's good, not great. Keep drawing.
If you want actual critique, his head is misaligned. Make sure it stays to the circle template and the circle itself is not distorted.
I attempted a perspective thing
My Torso game is still weak
Slowly getting though loomis
>>2568510
Fucking phone rotated it
>>2568420
Not OP here. Anon was clearly trying to draw ribcage but looks like they did it as an afterthought, placing this symbol right where it should be.
>>2568314
You don't understand how cloth folding works.
UGH the andrew loomis books and keys to drawing books are so BORING. SO UNBELIEVABLY BORING.
When do I get to improve by drawing what I want to draw? When the fuck does this get fun?
>>2568495
Try to avoid chicken scratching. Tits don't work like that. Yours are defying gravity. You chopped off the top of the head. Something is wrong with the hips.
>>2568458
Yes. Good for a beginner. Keep going.
>>2568393
Use a reference.
>>2568351
I get it but I feel that something is lost in all of the hatching.
>>2568314
Revisit perspective
>>2568510
People actually do the cartoon faces? I'm like a year in, should I do them now?
>>2568526
When you finish the grind. All joking aside, the grind isn't supposed to be fun but why can't you have fun along the way? Draw something you like instead, then when you see it is shit, return back to the grind.
>>2568526
>When do I get to improve by drawing what I want to draw
You just answered your own question, you DO improve when you draw what you want to draw. However, best to learn construction, perspective, and gesture first.
>>2568529
You're supposed to be applying the techniques of the book. The cartoon faces is just one of the techniques. It wont make or break you.
>>2568533
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of that style, but I'll make sure to be deliberate with my studies.
>>2568529
I just do them to get it into my head how it works. I learn by doing it and applying what I learned to my own work. Some people can read through it all and pick it up.
I also tried doing perspective from my head
>>2568543
Oh fuck off that was rotated the right way.
>>2568528
The tits were originally meant to be in a tight shirt, but I kinda just post this naked because its helpful to tell shit
I can see what you mean about the hips, it bothers me but I dont know what, I think its just way to basic
But hey, if thats the only issues then Im actually happy, I couldnt do any perspective last month
Gesture drawings really help
>>2568545
I feel ya.
>>2567989
pseudoscience/10
>>2568569
hes probably just doing it from the sticky you retard
>>2568636
Forgot to post the drawing, here it is:
>>2567555
Yes, just poorly
I have to draw more backs.
Drawing is so mentally exhausting. I picked up art so I can destress myself at some mindless activity but looks like getting gud comprises 60% thinking.
>>2568793
You listen to music?
>>2567201
I guess it's a waste of time doing this at work. I didn't construct and I used a terrible pencil and rushed between shifts.
Not a reference from this thread but i was wanting to post this in /beg/ since i was fairly happy with it. Rip it to shreds, lads. Sorry it's so faded, but my shitty camera and terrible lighting don't make it pop more.
>>2568638
I dig it. It's a bit muddy tho, esp. Around the neck area.
My desire to improve and my morbid pessimism have been fighting to the death all damn week.
>>2568879
Nose is way off. Did you construct or no?
>>2564252
took me radio head's kid a album and 5 other musics
>>2568793
what do you mean you picked up art? in university?
>>2568894
Butt kickin' boots. Fuck this looks terrible.
How much do you guys tend to draw a day and what sort of stuff do you practice?
How would I make the cannon match the perspective? Any tips in general for objects that arent uniform?
>>2569015
just be more deliberate in the accuracy of the ellipses at the end of your cylinders?
>>2569031
But how would I be able to calculate it in regard to the horizon line? Would I have to project it's own horizon line since the object is not parallel to the ground?
>>2569050
Beginner here so take it with a big grain of salt but I think I got what your problem is, I tried to redline the perspective as I see it from the front of the vehicle, then found the middle line in green: this is where the cannon should cross this plane.
As >>2569031 said be careful about your ellipses, keep in mind that the longest diameter is perpendicular to the cylinder.
Might not be the right place for a question, but how useful is it to just draw noses, eyes, lips or a simple face over and over until you get it "right" ?
t.
total beginner
>>2568974
As a hobby lol
>>2569088
Okay I think I see how I'd do it now. I can see that the perspective on the top of the truck is off anyways. And yeah ellipses are tough on a tablet. You can only undo and try again so many times before you just move on.
Some more boobs and torsos. Halp
>>2568161
looks like a fucking ancient egyptian desu sin pie
>>2568119
Gotta find the right speed so the line is a straight as possible. Also did you try to find which angle to draw the line is your strongest? Best to find that and use that angle even if you gotta rotate the paper.
>>2568632
I did it from the sticky, but I'm also reading through Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, being careful to just skim through everything and just do the exercises
I literally can't seem to progress beyond the level of a 10 year old deviantart user.
I gave up on this as the entire thing is flawed. No matter what I do it always turns out like this. It's so awful I hate it.
Do I just have to work through all this shit, and hopefully become a semi-decent artist at the end?
>>2569232
maybe you should think about trying instead of doodling
>>2569232
>human face is the absolute hardest thing to draw
>everyone start with it
hm
>>2569235
don't reply to bait
>>2569243
realized my mistake as soon as i pressed submit desu senpai
I've made a butt with legs. I've got sketch book stuff, but I really can't do full profiles.
>>2569232
blog?
>>2568188
Looks fine for now, but you don't have a lot in. The rest looks like it'll be tricky with everything going on, I suggest you squint when looking at the reference, it'll really show the values as blocks, then block it in as you see it
>>2568229
Good effort, the lines will really help with your measuring. Next time, recreate the guidelines and sections you have here on the reference, then try to really take your time and look at each part you are drawing and ere it is in relation to each section
>>2567413
Whats the cone behind the roofline meant to be?
>>2569312
I'm having trouble with the squint thing. I can still see fine, unless my eyelashes are blocking my view. I've tried it before and I still don't quite understand how squinting will make things blurry...
r8 my animu cancer
>>2569346
whatever, just move up a thread. its fine.
>>2569348
okey..
>>2569354
dont fall for it. he's trying to shill his shit thread
>>2568137
Look at the neck going to the shoulders
Hey, my friend made this earth spirit and is looking for a harsh critique. I know there isn't much here but I would appreciate it.
>>2569379
/d2g/ would be proud
>>2569346
boob is hanging erect at an angle of 50+ degrees to the left
boob is 2 big
shoulders don't make any sense
hips unaligned
awful perspective
(same person as >>2568121)
It feels like my skill level is fluctuating too much on a daily basis. For a couple days I might complete a few studies and produce work that's not too bad, and then one day it all falls apart and I turn into a complete beginner again. Is this normal? How do I prevent it from happening, or how to push through it?
Also sorry about image size, it kept pixelating when i tried resizing it
>>2569346
Tiny ear, they're around the same length from the nose to the eyebrows
Butts aren't floating circles, they're 3D forms that get pushed or pulled by the position of the legs.
Needs work overall. Would certainly recommend using reference.
>>2569379
Good Spot / 10
>>2569379
OSfrog
i got a question /beg/
i've been trying to learn the fundies of construction and figure drawing as my focuses mainly
however, i feel like i've been doing nothing but exercises and practices, and i can't really translate this into actually drawing a picture
my question is when should i stop doing fundy exercises and start trying to actually draw some things? i know im gonna be shit at drawing for a while, but when do i move from practicing fundamental exercises to practicing composing an actual piece?
>>2569449
supplement studies wih drawing from imagination
![IMG_0276[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/M1ek2GX.jpg "IMG_0276[1].jpg")
>>2569458
How do you mean? like after every few studies i just try to draw something i want to draw for fun?
Also how do you guys deal with having a cool idea and wanting to draw it but also knowing you aren't good enough to draw it and you don't want to try drawing the idea until you are good
>>2569467
Try it anyway. The worst that could happen is it's awful and makes your weaknesses obvious, allowing you to direct your studies to the areas you need to improve the most.
>>2569467
You either start drawing what you want to draw rather than focusing exclusively on getting gud, or you burn out. Stop being dumb and draw what you want to draw. Focus your studies on problematic areas related to those things.
You'll never get good if you burned out a few months into trying.
>>2567196
Should have just done the cat
How long should I draw from observation before I can move on and draw from construction?
>>2568879
Look at the negative space on the left eye, the hair and iris should be taking up half the eyeball.
>>2568935
Jesus christ read the sticky.
>>2568935
Clint looks like he's listening to National Anthem for the first time.
>>2569340
Put your hand in front of your face a metre away from the image and focus on your hand. The image behind you hand should be blurry. You need to look passed the image basically, going slightly cross-eyed seems to help for me.
>>2569518
>look past the image
>slightly cross-eyed
this isn't even anatomy you have to study
gonna draw this again vertically as to not have an excuse for why I fucked that adbomen up so dearly
>>2569142
Sorry for the shitty lines desu. Its my first time digital and doing a redline for a while.
Biggest problem is seeing the whole form, and the drawings come off as very flat. Only advice I can give is to keep on working on drawing different forms from different angles and to keep pushing yourself.
A tip though is to draw the tilted plane of the top of the ribcage and to attach the neck to that.
I am sleepy af tbqh btw desu so I'll do the rest tomorrow as long as I remember.
>>2569565
Yeah I can definitely say that I am blind to form. I feel like I can't quite get the 3D aspect. Also I notice when I try to draw a 3/4 view of the torso when I get down to the legs it the lower portion ends up as a front view. I've been using references like pic related to try to help me get into the 3D mindset. I appreciate your help.
>>2567213
Jesus Christ man, draw clean lines, no chickenscratching
>>2567775
If you know how to draw a human head at any angle, you will learn how to draw your waifu's head at any angle.
Trust me
first time painting, digitally or otherwise. its still a wip, im just wondering if theres anything i can improve on before i go any further, thanks
I've just started doing the exercises in loomis, any advice?
>i thought i could draw a face on a circle
>fucked it up, desu.
>>2568097
You just gonna sit there and die, son?
>>2569584
Are you drawing from your shoulder?
>>2569580
Moonlady Moonlady can't you see
>>2569597
>are you drawing from your shoulder
I don't understand what you mean?
>>2569600
>>146053049
[spoiler]I haven't been there in a while, does everyone still circlejerk about figure drawing still?[/spoiler]
>>2569605
Thank you, I'll try to keep that in mind.
>yfw you finally realized what it means to draw with shapes instead of lines
>>2569613
pls help. Any resources you could point me to? What helped you make the breakthrough?
>>2569614
Being good at drawing the big four shapes in 3D in any angle was my first step. Once you do that it's a lot easier to see things as shapes instead of just lines.
working on this.
Feedback is welcome.
So I read up a bit about composition and did a few thumbnails. Does this scene work?
>>2569635
Post your drawing.
>>2569739
>>2569752
His left your right.
>>2569315
It's a turret ("tourelle"?), it may be a part of this house, or from another house right behind this one. It's a fancy house decoration where I live.
>>2569772
I think it's called Tourette.
NIGGER. FUCK. TITS.
>>2569776
>tfw casually walking by a stone wall and it starts roasting you
>>2569752
Oh no, I guess if you haven't started to learn construction yet you're fine, you go the features pretty close. I was thinking the nose looks pointed like a bird in yours, but it seems it doesn't matter
my second irl nude. sorry it's HB. how'd I do? the shading is awful, but how's the rest?
>>2569828
scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch
Can digital painting / drawing programs with their stabilizer features counteract my issues with fine motor skills, or am I fucked
Hey guys, I really want to start drawing but I have no experience and I'm starting from the very beginning. What do you guys recommend I start doing to start learning how to draw?
>>2567607
>File
Do keys to drawing
>>2569751
>>2569739
that's very helpful.
progress, I know I should push values more, right?
As someone who wants to eventually draw animu shit and post it to the internet should i bother investing in a tablet? I'm sure this question has been asked to fucking death but I don't want to get too used to pencil and paper and then have trouble if i decide to switch to a tablet at some point.
Or am I just worrying for nothing and is the switch not that big of a deal?
>>2569584
Looks to me like you're not thinking in 3D, which is they key point of Loomis. Draw the head again turned at an angle and think of everything you draw as a 3D object interlocking and wrapping around other objects.
>>2569529
Looks kinda better
>>2569973
If you have played any video game that requires mouse accuracy, then switching to a tablet is no problem other than the surface being really slippery compared to paper. The disconnect that people speak of, is only bad for people who have never used a mouse for fast accuracy.
>>2569966
Yes you need darker darks pretty much everywhere but you should focus on improving proportion. Rendering is the easy part imo.
>>2569518
I see. This helps me to get a more blurry/basic view. Thanks!
Send help
>>2567841
it ain't that easy on tablet mang.
>>2568529
It's heavily implied you should be drawing along. I'd say go back, and at least give it a shot.
>>2569966
better or worse?
I cant fix his fucking face, I think pupils are too big.
>>2570050
Nice minecraft fan art bro
>>2570156
i hope this helps?
>>2569800
Hand and neck are kinda weird, I feel like the legs should be a bit longer too
