New thread
>>2544945
nah ill trigger the mods too much
doing this 4 u guys.
>>2544935
do you realise nothing you ever post shows any improvement at all?
>>2544935
>actual loomis
bump
merry magadlene
>>2545392
T H I C C
>>2545397
calm down bud
that's actually not a horrible tut if you want to draw anime, almost any drawing from imagination uses symbol drawing on some level.
Person really needs to work on cleaning up their inks/lifework though.
>>2545909
This. Mods, pls.
>>2545909
nobody ask for you trash opnion sad dude. Go back to r9k or pol moron.
Finished this 30 mins ago
>>2545909
just kill yourself you fucking no life.
>>2545909
bumping this genius mind comment just for the irony of the action
Test for a large scale piece I plan on doing. The random colored lines on the bottom will be text.
>>2546130
Goddammit.
>>2545909
why are you like this
Need to get better at proportions.
>>2546397
I think it's neat.
Back the beginner thread for me.
>>2544935
nice
>>2545392
jesus christ, you still exist?
>>2545224
fucking rude anon
it's pretty fun making random storyboards where the story goes nowhere
>>2545909
shake
my
head
>>2545397
What even?
Been wanting to draw a mech off of the cyoa power armor sheet. Finally got around to doing it. Redrawing it to smooth out some of the rough edges now
>>2547927
Dammit camera
>>2547934
... Fuck it
I turned one of my practice pose gestures into this.
only this as a warm up
Had a few minutes to kill so I tried my hand at painting chocolate.
>>2548793
I think your insult had a lot less heart in it. It wasn't a critique, it's actually not that bad skill-wise, it just made me hate you. I didn't post because I haven't drawn anything recently. Hate me too, if you want. I don't give a damn.
>>2545909
Go back to /r9k/ or /pol/ loser. I see nothing wrong with this thread.
>>2546397
Did you use a grid to do this or just eyeball the lines? I swear I can never get the perspective right
>>2548785
Honestly it looks more like a freshly excised cancer tumor wearing a wig. Is it supposed to be chocolate sauce? Can you post the ref and I'll give you a few pointers on how to improve it
>>2548052
It's too straight nigga. Real spines are more S-shaped and chests are more barrel shaped (meaning the shoulders don't line up with the back but are a bit forward). pelvis forward + chest back = swagger. I know you didn't ask for critique but this is the one thing that makes your figures come alive
>>2548793
I'm very sorry to see you ran into somebody who would treat you like this. Just keep practicing and pay no mind to what happened here. You did nothing wrong. I know you want to tell this person off or get some sort of satisfaction here but the only real satisfaction they can really give you is an apology and I don't think we're going to see that.
>>2548793
Whats it like being the epitome of all that is beta?
>>2548793
Someone's butthurt.
>>2548841
No, it's okay, I actually wanted some critique here I know this isn't a god damn hugbox.
I didn't follow any reference doing that so I can see what you mean, it's a bad habit of mine to make everything flat instead of dynamic, thank for the tip. But I still have a problem with how the legs align from the pelvis in a tridimensional way, I dont know if i'm being clear there, I have some problems making the uh roundabout?
Sorry, shit English.
one gravelord doodled while sitting around at a con booth lol
did these in the last hour before i fell asleep
it's all pretty ugly but i'm trying to explore variations for a personal project
>>2549981
I know who you are Dave. How have you been.
>>2549995
im not dave though lol
>>2550009
Honest question. Why do you think everyone on /ic/ who doesn't think like you is this Malasyia person? You have some serious issues.
breaking in my new sketch book
Just a lot of circles, small texture practice and a simplified version of my expression during it all.
>>2550073
yeah it definitely looks broken
>>2544935
>>2550343
>being a human photocopier
>>2550424
>The summer
uh don't mind the nose
>>2550424
Well excuse me but isn't this one of the way to learn from the bridgman book? I used what I learned from Vilppu chapter 1 and 2.
Preparing for chapter 3 by copying this one part.
Didn't Frank Frazetta say he straight up copied the enitre book in one day?
>>2550343
And some things i've done today. vilppu hand studies
Think im go spend some more hours applying what I learned Vilppu and Marshall vandruff instead of being an ass on /ic.
Such a summerfag I am
>>2550748
>Didn't Frank Frazetta say he straight up copied the enitre book in one day?
take anything Frazetta said with a huge grain of salt, amazing artist but known to self aggrandize/exaggerate what he did.
>>2550757
Yah I know that but I know he has done studies from Bridgman book at the very least.
>>2550759
Oh certainly, he may have actually studied under him at some point.
>>2549984
These are super cool.
>>2548834
Eyeball, started with a box and then broke it into smaller and smaller pieces.
>>2552015
desu it looks exactly like the drawings of this high school student.
And she definitely did not study loomis.
>>2549984
lazy masquarade related project?
Loose doodles, are pineapple shirts /fa/?
Drew this a few minutes ago, would appreciate critique. I tried to show my process so if you see somewhere I went wrong, please point it out.
One question I have is how do I get to the point where I can draw good anatomy without references? Is it even possible to do so without relying on symbol drawing?
>>2555827
Don't hide hands to compensate not knowing how to draw them, just draw a shit ton of hands.
What you need to do is draw so much anatomy that you sort of internalize the proportions and "3D" symbols used to construct a figure on paper.
Sorry for the size, but I wanted to post some sketches.
>>2555827
https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/2372361/#2380093
http://4xiszero.tumblr.com/post/144911695102/your-stuff-looks-amazingim-really-curious-to
Witch
>>2555841
I actually hadn't even considered hands at all in that pic, I just wanted a cute pose.
I actually consider myself pretty proficient at drawing hands compared to some of the other aspects of my art.
(This is the closest pic I have ony phone to showing off hands)
>>2555853
holy shit
>>2555853
D I C K N O S E
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>lined paper
>chinktoons
sorry
hips are fun to draw
>>2555958
god fucking dammit
>>2546397
Nice light tank.
>>2555960
Well Bammes'd my friend
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>>2555860
>>2555860
>I actually consider myself pretty proficient at drawing hands
>I actually consider myself pretty proficient at drawing hands
>I actually consider myself pretty proficient at drawing hands
>I actually consider myself pretty proficient at drawing hands
>>2556237
Really neat for a mouse drawing, good job
>>2555860
Jesus socking christ
did you paint this in ms powerpoint?
>>2544935
Not all within the past hour since i started it a couple of days ago and been busy lately, added little bit of paints tho today.
>>2550409
would be 10/10 without the blood
>>2555860
looks like GoAnimate lmfao
>>2556201
what the fuck is this
>>2556232
I thought that was Yayoi on the right
>>2556240
>>2556252
>>2556345
Yeah this was a really bad example. It's one of my worse pictures, and it's nearly a year old. The hands are pretty bad too in that example, as well as the other one I posted. I'm not great at drawing hands, all I meant was I don't feel like I'm particularly bad at it compared to other things.
>>2556347
I was just testing out outfits for a character. I realized after getting into the clothes part the head was off, but it wasn't really the point of the image, so I left it.
If nothing else this was just more of a drawing excersize
>>2556359
>>2556362
>realized the head was off
>did not realize everything else was off
A question: do you think you're good at drawing?
Another: have you read the sticky?
If not, come back when you feel like you can post something of enough quality that people can give constructive critique. I imagine that people would instead have to redraw it for you at this point.
It's good to post as a beginner, sure. But I doubt anyone will have the time to fix EVERYTHING for you.
Learn the basics.
i... guess. phone doodle
>>2558397
huh. didnt notice the ad and other shit in the picture
>>2545224
That is very disrespectful.
crappy, I know
>>2556260
this is pretty nice
>>2559287
I bought a tablet 5 months ago and never got around to using it. I recently started practicing again and thought I would give it a try. This took me 8 hours.
>>2559525
>8 hours
>>2559559
I didn't it was a good or passable.
>>2559566
You need to read the sticky and start going to the beginner threads.
>>2559569
Oh no I have, I just started with one the books teh sticky recommended, I also want to really dig into Vilpus stuff.
Been drawing a pokemon every day for the past week.
>>2559586
Try Loomis' Fun With a Pencil or Dodson's Keys to Drawing. You're not ready.
>>2559595
Im doing keys to drawing and want to do some figure drawing practice on the side.
>>2559591
Shit, don't belong here. Beginner thread, away
>>2559543
...do you draw horses with puffy coats in situations of suffering or sadness by chance?
>>2559821
never mind I see them now. small website we live in huh?
I havent enjoyed my portraits, something seems very wrong with them.
>>2560051
You're symbol drawing. You draw what you think things should look like instead of what they actually look like.
>>2560051
The shrinking of the forehead and raising of her eyes above the eye level makes her facial features look bad.
I'd recommend going back and looking at how Loomis builds his portraits. It may sounds annoying to start from the beginning but it'll help you a lot. Keep up the practice, you can get gud
>>2560055
You're repeating words you read on /ic/ two weeks ago when you started drawing. You say things without actually knowing what they mean and critiquing people without knowing anything yourself.
>>2560056
I couldnt have seen this unless someone pointed it out. The forehead is definitely too short and the hairline is off.
Thanks for your help :D
>>2555860
Not bad m8, but you are approaching this whole art thing entirely wrong.
You can't expect to draw a hand or a piece of drapery decently when you clearly couldn't draw a box in perspective or even a straight line.
What do you think the figure is made of, if not lines and boxes?
>>2544935
>art tutorial
>actual loomis + symbol drawing
>>2544935
You literally have NO IDEA of what you are talking about.
I know the drawing is garbage desu, I'm just trying to get a hang at coloration
laughably bad at drawing feminine faces idk what my deal is. Haven't drawn in weeks tho so at least it's something.
what should i improve?
I was working on this
Now i'm working on this >>2560574
>>2560096
Well don't. Details such as coloration or style come as a by-product as you improve your drawing skills.
>>2560427
Looks pretty flat to me. Drop all the rendering and focus on making it look more 3D.
Also, focus less on contours and more on values. Learn how to hold your pencil in a claw grip and draw with the flat side, most college instructors teach that.
Don't bother with rendering until you can easily draw head in any pose/angle.
So, what do you think?
>>2560576
>>2560665
this is incorrect
style, yes, but color is an entirely different matter and requires as much hard work and practice as draftmanship
im gonna try to finish it
>>2560634
Why is this so adorable.
more vomiting practice onto a page.
>>2560427
draw that same head in profile, then 3/4, it's well drawn, just flattened, break out of the flatness
>>2560576
Your lines trigger me
>>2560822
What do you mean
>>2560849
Why are the all tiny lines scratching all over the place
oh god .>>2560849
Small robot man
>>2560853
Damn phone
>>2560850
>>2560856
What the fuck It showed up rotated in my phone so i guess tilt your moniter, heres something else i did
>>2560857
Not the perspective lines. The lines of the body itself
>>2560859
I was experiencing with different poses before, this is why. Is the first layer
>>2560799
you should post moar on tumblr
I'm thinking of picking up digital drawing and reading the fucking sticky, I used to doodle shit with a pencil from time to time. This was drawn with a mouse. Critique would be nice I guess, the only thing I know I unintentionally fucked up was the shoulder height.
>>2560950
pick pencil and paper and start now.
>>2560953
I like the idea of using layers and colors in my drawings tho, I'd much rather do digital.
Drawing this with a fucking mouse was somehow more enjoyable than using a pencil, so I really don't know why I should go back.
>>2560958
Get a wacom then. I got mine for 200 pesos 3 years ago and the thing is still live and kicking, even tho i treat it like crap.
>>2560965
200 pesos?
Isn't that like 10 bucks? No way did you get it that cheap.
>>2560857
>>2561148
This is looking better, but your lines are still broken and chicken stratchy, try going over this on another layer with clean lines to define your edges.
Or better yet go traditional and learn to commit to your lines instead of laying down 20 strokes for one edge
I will do another layer and make clean lines, the i'll show you >>2561158
>>2561169
Then*
I'm using paint tool sai>>2561158
>>2560574
>>2561148
You should look for a digital brush that allows you to get line weight variety, similar to a brush ink pen.
Those thin, shaky lines in your finished drawings make your art difficult to enjoy
Nothing in the past hour. I haven't been on /ic/ since I started college. Anything in this thread is within the past 2 months I think.
>>2561173
>>2561173
>>2561174
Oh an I was just a design student. Drawing really wasn't something they "taught." I graduated though.
>>2561172
Thank you!
>>2561175
No drawing classes in a design school? What?!
Mind telling us where you went?
>>2561184
Well I went to three colleges. The first was the one with the main amount of drawing I ever did in school (mostly it got in the way). Ran out of scholarship due to poor grades (cunt professor said I wasn't good enough despite taking pre-req classes). Second college I didn't even attend one semester because I was expelled (revealed my power level). Third college is closing down and giving the name would easily indicate where I live. The only explicit drawing classes I took there was in my final semester and both were optional.
Advanced Drawing which wasn't really advanced since we spent three weeks drawing and shading eggs. The class had freshmen in it and other seniors who weren't up to snuff (literally deviantart-tier anime comic shit for some cunts final project). Professor always singled out my work because it was the best ("Look at anon's work everyone, now do that). Point is the class felt more like Drawing 104 at best.
I took an animation class and I hated it. Animation sucks (to do). He had us do 8 minute drawing challenges as warm-ups. I checked out Burne Hogarth's Dynamic Anatomy from the school library (I own my own copy now and study from it) based of a professor's suggestion. The book hadn't been taken out since 2009. That made me disappointing.
Obviously I'm only posting the good things I've done recently. I have my bad days. Here's an 8 minute drawing challenge I did two days ago.
For those unfamiliar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06GxNHHREJA
Timer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsrQ6Iynx4w
TL;DW
>make 8 squares on paper
>start timer and draw until you hear the beep
>repeat until all boxes have been drawn in
>goal is not to see how far you can get but to convey the same idea in 5 seconds as you did in 4 minutes
>>2561173
>>2561175
>>2561195
Im sorry, but if this is your best work after three colleges, I wouldn't think about being so arrogant. Bad line quality and terrible anatomy here.
You sound like you think you are good at drawing or something, you're taking a bad approach to learning and looking down on your peers and mentors is unhealthy for your improvement.
Have you done much life drawing?
Still finishing.
>>2561225
Only four years of education total, again, most of it was not drawing but design. The webcam blurs quite a bit so line quality critique is nil but I can tell you I have issues with full confidence. College was mostly gesture drawings. My arrogance was extended quite a bit in that post. Most of my humor is self-deprecating if it eases you a bit.
I never drew until college anyway. I never said I looked down on all of my peers. Some were better at design but less than five were at my level or above it in terms of drawing. I just started studying anatomy and right now I'm balancing painting and drawing evenly more or less. I never understood anons who proclaim I should consider myself bad at art. Seems counter-intuitive to view myself as anons like you view me. Nothing quite like the astoundingly common criticism of "you think you're good? you're bad." Yep, sure helps me get better and you become a better critic.
I already got proper critique on >>2561175 without having to ask for proper criticism. "Bad" or "terrible" isn't criticism.
Reminds me why I should just stay off these art
boards. I can see what I did wrong myself just fine and not compound negativity into it needlessly.
>>2561243
If you know, why bother posting it at all? If you're familiar with board culture, why act surprised or offended when you're bluntly told the truth? Thanks for demonstrating how abysmal design school can be, I guess.
>>2560865
i'll start posting them up as i go.
random anime style
Charcoal is really fun.
Hey thats pretty good, i like the mouth. This is your own taste of draw anime? or is from another illustrator?
>>2563887
hell yea it is
>>2549984
I can hear them.
>>2564266
nice
I wish I could draw hot chicks
I always drag my face for too long
>>2563861
seems like Aldnoah Zero style for me
;-;
>>2546133
Yo you got a blog
Doing master copies to get the hang of inking
I should be studying. I wish I could draw Kylie Jenner's lips.
>>2560057
>that nose
>that mouth
>those textbook symbol eyes
Riiight
>>2560051
that symbol drawing doe
>>2564337
That's a great study of Leonardo's swamp monster.
>>2550409
9/10
Rope isn't properly shaded, looks the same in some shadows as it does in direct light. Eyes could use some additional work, look like copy&paste generic anime eyes, no character. Ears can lay flatter against the head.
All around, very good job, and love the subject.
What program were you painting in?
>>2556966
Hey, summer asshole. Post something useful or GTFO.
>>2560055
Summer faggot, get out.
I get that you're shit at art, so you feel like the only path open to you is to become an 'art critic' - but for that to work you have to actually know basic shit like *what symbol drawing is*.
>>2564741
Sorry samefag, those are symbols. The eyelashes in particular were drawn like a five-year-old and show that you're not attempting to replicate reality. However you want to split hairs because your feefees are hurt, your observational ability is garbage. All of the ad hominem in the world won't change that. Proportions are obviously a weakness for you as well, but learning how to avoid symbol drawing would help fix that problem. Good luck, you insufferable cunt.
>>2564851
He doesn't need to "replicate" reality. You can do that all you want, rude and pathetic loser who relieves stresses of living a miserable life on 4chan. He has his own style and a will to experiment with his own artistic path. You can say something is a "symbol drawing" to an art professor, and they won't understand what you are talking about. Because it's all in your head, and only you are lone advocate of your own ideology. It takes nothing to be rude and show what kind of tough guy you are, but a whole world of wisdom and experience to show respect for a fellow artist.
>>2564867
>muh style
And you had the audacity to call me a summerfag? Keep throwing out weak insults and making excuses. Your work speaks for itself and will continue to frustrate you until you drop this overly defensive attitude.
>>2564871
Different person, mate.
He's not going to keep "throwing out weak insults amd excuses". He's going to keep creating and sharing his own art and improving.
>>2564876
Yes, just keep creating the same shit you yourself admit looks bad. Because that plan has clearly been working well so far.
Hi /ic/, today I drew a baby rhino. First time posting here. any critique? looking to get back into drawing more often.
>>2564961
Doing layers of crosshatching in photoshop like you would with a pencil doesn't really work that well. As you can see it looks really sloppy and hairy. Try using a larger brush and laying in flat shapes of tone.
>>2556295
The blood is for a request, it´s a early version, here whitout blood.
>>2564729
Photoshop, and thanks for the feedback!
>>2564851
I'm a different guy, dumbass. Symbol drawing has a clear, rigid definition, which that drawing does not match.
The fact that you're throwing it around makes you look like some retard at Radio Shack trying to tell me how many gigabytes of memory a power supply unit has. You're not fooling anyone who's knowledgeable, and you're making yourself look like an idiot by applying it incorrectly.
The problem with this drawing is readily apparent to anyone who's done portrait drawing; the proportions are wrong. It shows no signs of symbol drawing outside of the shape of the eyes.
You didn't notice the obviously way off base proportions. But you DID throw around a buzzword that noobs tend to favor, even though it doesn't apply.
But by all means, let's see some of your work and you can prove me wrong about how you're a shit artist who has relegated himself to the role of critic, which you also can't seem to manage.
eh
still gotta work on those heads
>>2565274
your noses and mouths stick out too far from the rest of the face. its especially noticeable on the bottom left sketch. love how expressive these are, especially the dog bottom right.
>>2560055
Put up or shut up, faggot. Let's see what kind of garbage YOU churn out.
>>2565295
Good to know, thanks, man
>>2560799
What are you doing the washes with? They looks so clean!
>>2565262
>>2565297
>clear, rigid definition
Symbol drawings are oversimplified contours that fail to convey proper anatomical knowledge and form. Clarity or rigidity aren't important factors.
>more baseless insults
Yawn
>proportions
Yes, they're certainly wrong, but as I said before, learning how to avoid symbol drawing would remedy that issue. Two birds, one stone. Not complicated.
>muh buzzwords
Calling something a meme doesn't render it untrue, friendo.
>more projections
Zzzzzzzzzz
So you're not samefagging? Who cares? You're far enough up his (her?) ass that you might as well be the same rump-ravaged organism. I wouldn't be surprised if you were whiteknighting at this point.
I drew a quick head. Now post your work.
6 months into drawing and still trash.
>>2555853
b-blog... please.
the amount of malaysia samefagging in this thread just fucking hurts.
>>2559606
Not that anon but I think you really should go through fun with a pencil,after the heads part he goes through how to construct bodies and putting them in an environment.
Looking at your style I would assume that you would like to make characters and stories but maybe I'm just assuming things.
>>2565256
what elsa ve you done?
>>2560086
im surprised thats the response i get to my first post here. no blog though, sorry. i doubt ill post anything on one until im much better. so, what about these shitty doodles caught your attention?
>>2565415
Both, the versions are in my tumblr
http://kyuzuc.tumblr.com/
>>2565395
Your are not wrong about me wanting to make stories and characters but how did you interpret that from my "style"
>>2565378
Proportions seem right, shapes are fine, what don't you like about it anon? I have trouble appreciating my own work too, but depending on the style you're going for, it looks fine, just work with it more. If you're going for realism, value is going to make it or break it; construction is only half the battle.
>>2565378
I think the bridge of her nose is a bit too wide. Other than that, I like it!
>>2565585
Thank you for the tip, ill try to put in values.
>>2565906
The bridge probably looks wide, because of the lack of values. and thanks!
>>2555853
Hey anon, if you're still here, I was wondering how you're getting such thick, even, smooth shading on places like the face and the legs? Are you using the wide side of a pencil?
Really awesome art by the way.
last 5 hours
still a long way to go, but I´m surprised how well it turned out compared to my other work
also, I´m super tired
newest bannerlord-gameplay was beautiful
>>2566180
The structure on these is pretty messed up, especially the falcon. Also the scale seems wrong.
>>2566882
That's just the OP samefagging. Nobody has bad enough taste to defend Magaysia.
>>2566886
dont be too paranoid, you inbred dumbfuck
i havent posted in this thread in the last 15 days
>>2566896
Everyone knows it's you, no need to be coy
Sorry for the sketch lines.
>>2565438
It looks like a good artist trying to make bad art. You have potential. You're probably like 30-35% better than me but its hard to tell so no choice to ask for blog
>>2566180
hva er med dere dansker og fuglane deres
>>2565532
not that anon either but you're paying a lotta attention to the face and outfit (even though they do kinda suck desu sorry sin pie)
fun with a pencil is a shit book for beginner, go with head and hands, or vilppu/hampton if you're wiling to get fucking ANALytic about your anatomy (they're brutal to draw along to)
>>2567184
the way you always use percentages is top cringe material
>>2546005
Kill yourself
>>2567291
the way you cant use % makes you bad
took some inspiration from: http://ilovebedsart.tumblr.com/
>>2565378
That honestly looks pretty good to me. How much have you been drawing in those 6 months?
SUPER FUTURO GRECO BASKETBALL
>>2545224
you're an asshole lmao
>>2567540
But could he beat the NBA rigged system that puts Lebron's team into a game 7?
self portait,still chasing that semi photorealistic pedestal, still unable to move past lineart contourns
How long do I have to practice before I stop wanting to end my life? I also haven't really spent time in the sticky, so I should probably go do that later.
>>2566181
awesome
>>2567571
>rigged
Of course not
>>2544935
>actual loomis
Haha, I kekked my pants a little.
>>2556295
it would be 10/10 without my eyeballs
an asian girl study, because I have yellow fever
The linework is almost done!
>>2567863
Helio?
>>2567926
Dunno, just found it on the internet and decided to do a study, I will post the finished work in my tumblr or da...
>>2567876
pointy bewbs
>>2567436
>http://ilovebedsart.tumblr.com/
LOL im glad i inspired you!
>>2568001
No lol look again..
>>2567876
Is this traced?
I made a tiny baby gif.
