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being honest, how many hours do you put into drawing a week?
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being honest, how many hours do you put into drawing a week?

how many hours do you want to be putting in a week?

>please no shitposting about quality over quantity


>me

putting in 30 hours a week on average, usually 3-5 hours a day. my ideal would be 50 hours a week (7hrs a day)
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>>2538022
10 hours drawing 5 hours watching lectures
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An hour a day so seven
I want to put in eight hours a day and eventually sixteen
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>>2538022

post your work
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>>2538022
0 hrs ... Haven't drawn in weeks. Feeling kinda sad.
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>>2538096
>>2538030


/ic/ 95% populated by hobbyists confirmed
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>>2538022
All day erry day
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my motivation to draw kinda goes away and comes back in a 4-5 weeks cycle. For two weeks I won't touch a pen, then it will slowly start comming back until i feel motivated and start drawing 2 or 3 hours per week, and then it goes away.
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>>2538026
>>2538437
>>2538022

You guys that say you draw a lot, can you post progress pics or something? Considering getting more serious and start spending more time myself.
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>>2538022
About 20 but I'm unemployed
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>>2538030
>>2538496
i'm OP, only really started putting hours in since January 2016 (dates in filename)

pic related is where i started
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>>2538549
started putting in more time here
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>>2538551
was only focusing on figures, and just repeating the same mistakes for almost the whole month giving me tunnel vision
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>>2538552
tried to vary what i was doing and make things more fun, i think it did a lot better than just focusing on one subject
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>>2538553
not a great month for progress but i got a bit better at figures, and learned a lot of perspective theory
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crappy pic, but this is kind of where i'm at now
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>>2538555
did you draw only on sketchbook
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Out of interest I started actually timing my drawing sessions and keeping a record and I was a bit horrified about how little I draw compared to how much I thought I did.

I'd like to do at least two hours a day.
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>>2538567
no i use printer paper more than i use sketchbooks
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>>2538572

Also this a gif of the stuff in a folder I've been keeping of my favorite drawings every month since like February of last year. I think I put in a few more hours weekly in 2015 than I have so far in 2016 though.

Definitely not moving at lightning speed (and progress has tapered off a lot lately) but I'm satisfied, considering how shit my work ethic is.
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>>2538022
4 days week I have work and other obligations so I'm lucky to get an hour in on those days.
i draw 3 days a week. usually draw 3-5 hours the first day cause it's hard to get back in the swing of things after not drawing for a few days.
The other two days I'll do 7 or rarely 10 hours.
I use manictime to check how long I've been drawing. Usually averages 16-18 hours a week :/ sometimes more, sometimes less.
Gonna quit my job in a few months once I have a complete portfolio and my starting goal will be 30-40 hours a week.
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>>2538586
i remember seeing your stuff in a progress thread, surprised you're putting in such little time
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>>2538513
Also 20 but I work fulltime
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>>2538576

Post your most recent more complete drawing, those sketches don't cut it.
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>>2538691

I wish I was doing more, I have no good excuse not to be besides racking disciprine.

I do get the suspicion that a lot of people misjudge their time spent, though. At least from my experience actually keeping a record I drew a lot less than I would have estimated if I'd been asked out of the blue. That said I didn't include reading / watching tutorials in the number, which some people might.
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>>2538704
there's not much to show from this month desu, i've been trying to get into new stuff like painting, colour and some plain air (need to get more versatile in my skills for a portfolio coming up)

these are some small sketches and paintings from this month (done in a sketch wallet), the rest is either sketchy pages of figures like the one above or digitally painted spheres/cubes/cylinders/forms in perspective which get deleted at the end of the day
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>>2538793
Could you honestly explain why you feel the need to put desu in every sentence? You seem like an otherwise alright person, but that thing just gives me cancer. Could you please stop?
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>>2538795
't b h' get's automatically converted to desu desu
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desu
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>>2538436
>95% of /ic/ is a few people in a thread made half a day ago
wew lad
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>>2538802
>>2538796
Testing because I'm positive that f a m goes to senpai senpai senpai
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>>2538835

I'm amazed that after all these months people are still just learning this.
Didn't any red lights go off when people stopped saying t b h f a m overnight and instead started saying desu senpai?
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>>2538840
>tfw always used desu and senpai anyways
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>>2538822
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>>2538835
t b h f a m
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>>2539180
desu senpai
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Right now I'm drawing about two hours a day, but only since about a month. I stopped for a long time, and I now getting back into it. This is what I'm working on. Soft pastels.

From House of a Thousand corpses cover. Thoughts ?
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0-2 hrs. Hobbyist.
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>>2539220
About right currently. I'm looking to increase those hours, tho .
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>>2539220

I don't think anybody putting in 0-2 hours considers themselves a professional, anon.
Not to mention why would putting in 3-8 hours make you not a hobbyist? What would you be instead if you weren't actually a professional? An aspiring professional? An "artist"?
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>>2539635
I put in 0-2 hours a day myself as a fulltime freelancer (a humble $1400 a month and growing)

A large majority of my day is spent prospecting for clients, organizing them and reaching out via tailored emails and postcards.
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>>2539639
That's borderline poverty. I hope you have a 2nd job.
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>>2539639
>>2539642
Nah that's pretty good depending on where you live and what your art quality is. What kind of art do you do?
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>>2539707
You must be some kid with no responsibilities. Anywhere in the states $1400 (plus deducting your taxes) is living off the tooth. That's not a business, that's a side-gig.
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>>2539711

Other Anon here - consider that not everybody (gasp!) lives in USA and even relatively big and prosperous countries can have x4 times lower salaries and costs of living than old Eurozone or 'murrica.
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>>2539727
If you don't live in the best country on this entire planet your post is irrelevant.
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>>2539736
>best country
>not australia

pick one
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>>2539711
Why do you make all Americans look like retards? There are other countries that aren't all third world shitholes. In Germany for example 1400$ isn't too bad, especially for a freelance artist. This isn't anon's final salary, he can and will be making more money in the future, so all is well. You can't expect to make a good living in your early 20s which is how old most people here are.
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>desu senpai
>post your work
>'murica
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Some weeks none, some a whole day. It's a hobby.
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>>2539823
What is a "hobby"?
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>>2539824
Fun.
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>>2538022
0 hours, I'm more concerned about consistently drawing every day. But instead end up attempting to draw every other week. I don't know why I bother.
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so you guys who draw less than 2 hours a day and are still beginners, have you just accepted that you won't get to a professional level within the next 20 years?
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>>2538022

0 hour this week.
0 hour this month.
A few hours this year, but does it matter at that point?

>>2541271

Actually my plan is to go to professionnal level within 2 years.

> Feels good to be delusionnal, Anon.

Best part is: even though I know I'm being delusionnal, I still think it seriously. It's difficult to explain, like I'm trolling myself successfully.
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>>2541477
Not. Gonna. Make. It.
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>>2541477

Get a normal job.
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>>2541271

>projection

>>2541481
>>2541486

>they have obviously made it, which is why they are here telling you YOU aren't going to make it

Man, I'm not even him, and I wish I could just filter you fags
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>>2541503
Want to play ignorant in your safe space pal?
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> how many hours do you put into drawing a week?
1-2?

>how many hours do you want to be putting in a week?
42
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>>2541515

>implying pointing out how defeatist, nasty, and negative other posters are, is me hiding in a safe space

Why do y'all take him seriously? Everyone says that shit.. then when they realize they HAVE to get good.. They either make it, or don't.

Delusion is the same as confidence, its just one side viewing from the other side which determines where you are coming from

Should you stop because you are called "delusional", or should you keep going to see if you really are?

And personally, everyone starts delusional, and usually mellows out. It's other artists who get hyper defensive and woman-like
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40 hours. Been taking weekends off to watch old black and white movies.
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>>2541481
>>2541486
>>2541503

Thanks guys. I've screencapped my post and I'll post the results of my efforts in 2 years from now. Just downloaded Keys to Drawing, this will be a fun ride.

>>2541532

I probably need the negative motivation anyway and /ic/ is the perfect place for that. From experience, that someone doesn't think I can do something is a big incentive to not give up when it gets hard.

> Remember guys, 2 years from now, 30th of May 2018, to see my own Merc in Progress
> I'm Anonymous and I always deliver
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>>2541503
>projection

when i know i'm putting in the hours, effort, focus and enjoyment into improving.. no.

i'm just genuinely curious about people who are not working hard but expecting big results
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>>2541630

I work sporadically every month

when I practice(3 days a week)? 1-3 hours
when I work on actual visualizations? 2-12+ hours

If you work that(30+ hours) often, you must have a lot of things you could post for a beginner like myself to possibly learn from. Care to share?
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>>2541638
>If you work that(30+ hours) often, you must have a lot of things you could post for a beginner like myself to possibly learn from. Care to share?

i'm >>2538793 , progress stuff is above, and as i said i've only been really working at it since January, and a lot of the time i spent learning what not to do through trial and error, slowing down progress, and those were things that are pretty common knowledge around here, so still far from wise.

but the no. 1 thing i've learned that i would tell myself from the beginning is to work from the books, follow every step, spending more time than you think you need to on the basic things that you feel you're too good for (i.e. circles, lines, loomis heads, boxes, perspective grids, basic construction etc.) because those are the foundations, and if they aren't mastered, everything ontop of it will look like shit.
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>>2541546
at least post where your at now
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>>2538022
3-4 hours per session whenever I feel like it. Not pro but not bad either.
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>>2538022
It's actually about quality over quantity, brute forcing creativity don't work as well as other subjects.
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>>2538022
35 hours a week including weekends
80 hours excluding weekends. (draw, paint, sleep, repeat)

>>2541656
>work from the books, follow every step, spending more time than you think you need to on the basic things that you feel you're too good for

the difference between god-tier and shit-tier artists:
>god-tier will do this daily for 5 years,
>shit-tier won't even do this once.

>>2541538
patrician

>>2541705
shit-tier logic
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>>2541538
faggot
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>>2538022
>5 hours of drawing
>50 hours of anxious pacing
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>>2538022
About an hour a day on average the last while. Graduation project kicking my ass and taking my time.

I know it's totally retarded but basically, I'd draw a lot more (Outside of major project workload) if I was less shit at drawing. I can only stand looking at my own failure so many times a day.
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>>2538840
yeah, it's almost like /ic/ gets a lot of casual traffic from tumblr and reddit
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>>2541271
I don't have to be a professional to be able to reach my goal. All I want is to be able to draw beautiful boys.
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>>2541752
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>>2541710
I only draw when I want to, so far it works great. Art is not a by the book kind of subject.
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>spending more time than you think you need to on the basic things that you feel you're too good for

My biggest mistake.

I actually feel like starting all over again.
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>>2538022
>How Many Hours I Draw a Week
~1 Hours

>How Many I Want?
~8 Hours

>How Will I Achieve this goal?
Well frankly, I have only the general bases on how self motivation and creativity works, and it's not enough for me to be encouraged to draw. I've had many Ideas buzzing around in my head for a while, from OC to Undertale, but I put myself down everytime I try, saying I'm not good enough, I have no Idea what I am doing, ect. And I give into these negative thoughts, agreeing that the picture of a random ass woman I just drew looks like an 8 year old had done it. I think my issue comes from a deeper lack of motivation to do anything in my life, as all I do all day is sit on my ass and play video games all day, I might as well be tipping a fedora and screaming at my mom to get me hot pockets while I'm at it. I've looked up many-a-thing on self motivation, and they don't help... For the first time ever, I am admitting, I am lost... I can't find the motivation to do anything anymore, without considerable effort. Hell, there are days where I just sleep, ignoring food until it hurts. I know this is the wrong place to have gone into a spiel, but I needed to get this out, and this paragraph length wall of text and only just scraping the top of the mess that is my mind...
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>>2541844
Who the fuck cares man
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>>2541538
suggestions for good movies to study from? i want to do it but i don't know where to start or which directors to look at
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>>2541904
I won't recommend anything in specific because I'm busy. But I mainly use this site: http://www.theyshootpictures.com/index.htm
>also if you want great photos there's this site
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/bigpicture
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>>2538022
Depends on my mood.
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>>2541909
Thanks anon
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well, depends. Sometimes I just randomly draw for like 1-3 hours a day.
but when I know what I want to draw, I can spend like 4-5 hours. I have a 'perfectionist' level far beyond my drawing ability XD (result<expectation). Ain't a pro, not bad at drawing either. I rarely intentionally practice.

So, in a week I spend lesser than 30 hours.
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>>2541917
>>2541904

https://www.youtube.com/user/everyframeapainting

Try classic directors. Hitchcock, Kurosawa, Bergman, Pasolini, Fellini etc.
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>>2541946

Also Jodorovsky and Tarkovsky.
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>>2541935
kill yourself you fucking faggot
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>>2542010
It's a girl
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>>2542010
Normal practice is boring as shit and it doesn't help me at all. What people don't realise is you can't force art, it doesn't work that way.
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>>2542020
Hahahahaha
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>>2541909
>http://www.theyshootpictures.com/index.htm

>http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/bigpicture

my hero
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>>2541904
A Man for All Seasons

I was surprised how good this was. I'm not really interested in the subject matter but it's visually so well make that it held my attention anyway. Really superb costumes/lighting/composition.
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>>2542020

>What people don't realise is you can't force art, it doesn't work that way.

People do it all the time. Sometimes you gotta do shit you don't want to do to learn a skill, faggot.
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>>2542034
I never forced myself, I only get good when I had fun doing it.
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>>2541946
>>2541950
thanks for these, i'm already liking those videos a lot
>>2542025
will check it out, thanks anon
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>>2541904

The Last Emperor has some pretty good cinematography.
Good movie, too.
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>>2542020
when i comes to the fundamentals, you usually do have to force it.you don't need inspiration to learn figure drawing, colour theory, anatomy, perspective etc. yeah it helps if you're enjoying it but the fundamentals are mostly a grind

quote from above:

>but the no. 1 thing i've learned that i would tell myself from the beginning is to work from the books, follow every step, spending more time than you think you need to on the basic things that you feel you're too good for (i.e. circles, lines, loomis heads, boxes, perspective grids, basic construction etc.) because those are the foundations, and if they aren't mastered, everything ontop of it will look like shit.
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I work full time so about 42 hours in a good week
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>>2541844
You sound a lot like me. You're not alone anon.
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>>2538586
nice ducks
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>>2542272
full time as in you're making bux from your art?
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>>2542231
Not directed at you, but one fundamental for anatomy is not starting with the head. Too often I see elongated bodies and small heads. Use the torso to guide the legnth of the arms and legs. Hands rest around pubic area-length. Shit like that.

Or the head for portraits. Heads are about five eye lengths wide. Lips tend to end at the center of the iris. Or don't really outlide lips because they'll look glued on. Just color the upper lip darker and the lower lip a thing outline or lighter.
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>>2544471
No I mean I have a full time job outside of art and I draw that much after work and on weekends.
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>>2544649

42 hours on top of a job itself is impressive, how do you manage it?

> How do you avoid burning out?
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>>2545056
Can't say for sure other than that I enjoy it enough to not get bored. It's been about a year so far.
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Probably around 10-20 hours a week.

I've somehow managed to keep this up for two months.
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>>2545158
were you complete beginner before you started?
>show work/blog plz
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