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When did this board turn into shit?
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When did this board turn into shit?
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>>2521030
When you started posting your stupid memes.
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>>2521030
>Implying it was ever good.
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>>2521030
When "post your work" became commonly said

also, when people would proceed to post their work and it would invoke a thread killing frenzy
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>>2521042
There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking to post your work and posting your work.
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>>2521030
At what time was it ever good??
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>>2521030
when teal left
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>>2521035
People used to talk about art here instead of shitting on other artists.
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>>2521030
When anime took it over. It was the only art place where people shared my opinion of anime, but now it's considered to be the best type of art in the world, while at the same time people shit on great and experienced professionals.
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>>2521049
Not really, we still had that one assblasted Anon with impalpable autism where he posted those yellow caricatures of a Chinaman and actively shitposted everytime Teal posted his redline.
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>>2521044
Have you seen it actually happen? The thread turns into pure shitposting and degeneracy since nobody can admit they are flawed, so it just goes back and forth with name calling
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>>2521054
>When anime took it over.

Anons still posted Animays on regular drawthreads however people would get butthurt over that fact and so to lessen the asspain those animu threads where created as a containment.
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/ic/ was doomed from the start, because it's all anonymous. No critique forum can offer any significant value if you don't understand where people's critique are coming from.
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>>2521057
I always ask people to post their work whenever I see a bold statement or when my curiosity is aroused. Yes, I also post my work when asked as well despite making bold statements myself it is a opportunity to test your own knowledge as well as learn from mistakes if you are found to be incorrect based on your drawing.
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This is my honest problem with the board. People don't give opinions.l they just shit on artists

>Hey guys how's this? Any changes I should make?
YOU FUCKING SUCK IT LOOKS BAD NOW FUCK OFF
>really any real advice?
FUCK YOU
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>>2521089
git gud.
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>>2521030
when I started posting on it ;)
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It's always been shit, but before it was shit because people were over-critical but at least they were on-topic. Anime art was frowned upon and usually contained to one thread. There were never any meta drama threads either, and the place was really slow.

It happened when the porn threads started. And when the malaysian cancer used all of his autistic rage to crap all over the board. He's been permabanned and is shitposting from his phone.
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>>2521060
>>2521089
While you're not generally wrong in what you're saying, /ic/ could actually help me improve my works.
Critique might have been articulated more harshly than it probably would have been if we'd been face to face.
But the critique made was valid and helped improve the drawings.
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>>2521030

So anyone wanna fuck or something?
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It's always been like this, you just got disenchanted
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>>2521110
Oh fuck off with this fucking crusade. If you fucking ignore him he'll go away. Grow the fuck up.
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>>2521054
>but now it's considered to be the best type of art in the world,

You need to have crazy tunnelvision to only see the people praising it and miss the kneejerk hatred it still gets from a substantial portion of this board.
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>>2521110
The quality of the board didn't decline with 1 or 2 new threads dedicated to art you don't like, but when once popular community activity threads slowly faded away and became very rare or nonexistent.

We used to always have a study thread up at any time. We used to have way more collab threads with far more people participating. Character design challenges, various sketch threads, gesture / figure drawing threads, master study threads, drawing from imagination challenges using random theme- and character generators and so on and on.

That's the stuff that made /ic/ a worthwhile place to go to. Pretentious fucks hating on animu and shitposting disguised as "harsh critiques" never added anything of value to this board.
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>>2521119
jack yourself off in the corner, this is a thread for serious discussion
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>>2521142
So if you know the problems why don't you try to fix it? It takes 2 minutes to find a nice ref and start a study thread.
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I don't know, I've been here for like 5 years, (fuck)
and I think that it's improved a bit. Quality got better earlier on, then took a dive, went back and forth a bit too.
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>>2521148
fair assessment
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>>2521054
>while at the same time people shit on great and experienced professionals.

But those are mostly the same people who shit on anime. Or do you think someone like Yoh Yoshinari, Hiroyuki Imaishi, Akihiko Yoshida, Murata etc aren't great and experienced professionals? Because that's the kind of anime art that gets praised on /ic/.

If you are the kind of person who completely ignores great draftmanship and skill and shits on something only because it's "anime", you are exactly the kind of person you are complaining about and you are apparently too fucking dumb to even realize that irony.
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>>2521146
The problem isn't just that these threads went away. They went away because people stopped participating. Somewhere down the line, the main demographic of /ic/ changed from people who wanted to actually draw and have fun while also learning and receiving meaningful critiques, to bitter fucks who only want to gossip about other artists and shitpost.

There are still a bunch of people left who aren't like that and every once in a while we do have a thread like in those days, but they usually die as quickly as they started.
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I don't need people shitting in my work so I don't need to post it here anymore

I'm surprised that at times there aren't study threads or animation threads. The book thread even though it has content only has people begging useless books just to hoard content
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>>2521129
No, he doesn't. Look at the /pol/ archives. He makes drawthreads every day and will post to bump limit regardless of if anyone responds
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>>2521030
says every person on every internet community older than a year
>>2521054
i bet you cant draw.
>>2521110
implying he can destroy a board single hand.
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>>2521148
I've been here longer than I'd like to admit and I agree. The overall quality of this board fluctuates a lot, it seeming better in the past is largely due to nostalgia clouding the memory.
We're definitely in a slope right now though. Summer came early this year.
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>>2521089
This is a critique board, if you can't read between the lines and understand what people tell you because you're buttmad that you suck at art, that is your own fault.
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>>2521173
Fuck off. Every fucking thread on this board, someone says something negative no matter what and you always post MUST BE FUCKING MALAYSIA MAN. I'd be willing to bet 99% of the time it's not him and you're just a paranoid fuck. Seriously, get a fucking life and stop thinking about the guy.
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>>2521159
I would help, but no matter what, whenever I even try to post something I get assblasted, even when I didn't do anything.
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>>2521294
boy oh boy

one look at this post and i still couldn't tell why that would ever happen
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>>2521273
>implying he doesn't brag about shitting up every thread on /ic/.

>>2521239
>implying you're any better
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>>2521089
That's every faggots everyday problem with every board on 4chan. There's always going to be people venting anger/frustration in wild desperate shitposting. Love it or leave it, nigger.
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I have literally been here for 5 years, it's not necessarily worse, just different. The hive mind of the board has changed just like any other, also there used to be great posters who would somehow level out the amount of shit.
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>>2521119
i could go for some fuc
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Everyone knows that the batman threads on /co/ alone are better than of all this board.
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/ic/ went to shit when people started treating it like their /r9k/ hugbox

>Waaah I lack motiviation, motivate me guys :(
>haha just got drunk today and drew this i dont care what you fucks say ;)))))
>rate my art please, i hope i'll get good someday!!!
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>>2521720
DING DING DING DING

This fucking board became nothing but another /r9k/ with a small minority of us that draw.
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>>2521720
this

absolutely nothing else triggers me more than the threads about >tfw i spent 2 weeks procrastinating

keep in mind they've been drawing for 2 weeks
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>>2521725
>with a small minority of us that draw

This board is already a minority. So it would be a minority of a minority? Don't jump to drastic conclusions.
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>>2521720
>rate my art please
i always thought all those threads are created by same shitposter that digs those shitty images from somewhere
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Didn't the "regs" leave or something?
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>>2521110
literally who.
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When anons pretended to be retarded and newfags thought it was board culture
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>>2521110
He's right you know, the fucking idiot who spams MALAYSIA in every thread is a fucking loser.
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>>2521064
>I also post my work
Post your work :^)
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>>2521110
You know he many 4chan users post from their phones? You're fucking mental to think he's the only one. I honestly think you have a mental problem.
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Ic is not a bad board, just don't browse it every day, come to get resources and ask for critique every now and then.
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>>2522708
>masturbating is bad
my god
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>>2522708
>screenshotting pasta
Amen my ass,
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>>2521110
This is what I was going to come into the thread to say. This place truly turned into shit when malaspie got here and mods let him run amok. At the same time Brian detonated a fucking nuclear warhead full of spaghetti all over the whole drawthread system and the cancerous fallout of that is still spreading. This place always had its issues but those two ass-pergs made this place uninhabitable.
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>>2522884
Who the fuck is Brian? Also, you call this posters aspies yet you use the term spaghetti. Real mature.
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>>2521030

because you didn't read the sticky
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>>2521262
>read between the lines
"Your work is shit"

Yeah I get that but what is shit about it I'm still learning and can't identify the problems yet that's why I'm here.
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When people started picking on better artists then themselves and just trolling instead of concrete criticism. Theres like what, 5 or 6 pro level artists on /ic/ and they all almost lurk only now because of shitposters or simply because it has become irrelevant and the place is such a shithole that your presence here may just be nefast to your reputation.

Porn threads, cringe threads, /r9k/ threads, Iwantmoney threads, how do you draw threads, lookatmydrawing threads, thisartistisshit threads and more and more shitposts every day and all at the same.

Whoever says the board didnt degrade is a newfag and wasnt here 3 or 5 years ago or has fish memory.
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>>2522992
This, seriously. People give no real advice, just saying "it's shit" doesn't help anyone.
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>>2521030
"if you don't like it, leave"
"it was never good".
I'm inclined to agree with the latter, but I still think the internet at large has become grosser and grosser, and with each passing year, it continues to sustain this trend.

If I were you, I'd give up on the internet for now; wait for the culture to cannibalize itself.
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>>2522708
I was with you right up to muh soggy knees.

You will never make it libtard.
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>>2523001
there is literally only one guy making the vendetta/artist hate threads.

Newfags who want to pick on someone bump the threads.
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>>2522902
A dude who thinks he's hot shit despite being mediocre, spamming his art all day priding himself on 'not being able to improve anymore'

Up to that point it's kinda normal here, yet somehow and for some reason he revealed to us all that he's batshit insane: >>2522638 >>2522662
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>>2521030
Containment boards are never good.
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>>2523010

You're a fucking idiot and you're never making it.
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>>2521057
>since nobody can admit they are flawed
The problem is people using that retort in the first place whenever someone posts negatively or with an opinion they don't agree with. It's fucking annoying.

>I don't like this because _____
>YEAH WELL POST YOUR ART SHITLORD
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>>2521030
/ic/ has always been and always will be shit.

It's just that simple.
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>>2523961
Nah there was a time where figure drawing, study, texture study, head training, draw threads, master srudy, evironment study, character design and even art material threads were all up at the same time with no porn or stylisation bullshit todayn and they were all used extensively.

That was not shitn that was a proper art board.
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>>2524276

It's because the mods don't ban people like Nosebro. People who live to shitpost should be removed if we want to be serious. You can always leave or join the IC discord.
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>>2524362
mods ? what mods ? do we have mods ?
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>>2521030
Show your work
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I don't see anything wrong with this board, it's 4chan anyway. Nothing should be taken seriously.
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>>2524566
>it's 4chan anyway
classic shitposter defense
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