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Thoughts? I appreciate honest feedback. For more of this stuff, check out www.ryanlloydmorris.com
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>>2437759
Technically it's pretty good, looks like something painted back before our time (I don't know my eras, sue me) but I feel like the piece overall is kind of weak.

You could push the surrealism a lot farther, especially with the face, right now it's not very surreal to me more like a lady with stuff on her wearing a mask. Kinda boring. Push it farther!

I say study fabric a little bit more too because some of the shading looks a little weird, like i can't place what sort of fabric it might be. Right now it looks like the really think crimpy stuff that I had a skirt made out of when I was five (definitely not the look you're going for).
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>>2437759
Btw unless someone asks, assume no one gives a shit about seeing more on here, you're coming off as pretty cocky right now.
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Thanks bunches. I agree with the fabric comment. I paint mostly from memory and with no reference images. But I can assure you I'm anything but cocky lol. I just really wanted honest feedback from strangers to help me see my work more objectively. Thanks again.
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>>2437759
If it had a cute face, I'd wan't to stick my wiener in it.
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>>2438306
Use a reference then, don't trust your memory. It takes a lot of repetition to commit something to memory.
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I think this would be a lot more powerful without the mask / weird thing on her face. It makes her feel not human, which detracts from the effect of the insects crawling on her which I believe would be more unsettling if you could see her face.

I feel most of these paintings are overdoing the "surreal" aspect without actually being surreal enough to be good surrealism so to speak.
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i like the op so i followed link. glanced at the first page and like it then i realized you use the fucking tryphobia bubble eyes and stretchy scar face thing for fucking everything. try doing different stuff
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>>2441391
This
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>>2441391
Well, the distorted/ abstracted features are a symbolic theme that I use throughout my work for a few different reasons. It first started as a way to reflect how western religious art has misrepresented and distorted the source materials. (White jesus and mary, cute angles with wings and shit...etc) I use a lot of Virgin Mary iconography and have even made a few bronzes of disfigured Christ and Mary. It's just a part of my overarching theme and philosophy. I suppose I should articulate that better in my artist statement on the site. Disfigurement is now just a staple of what I do and crosses over into other thematic endeavors. For peace of mind, I will let you know that I do paint regular human faces on before fucking them up. I use the face as a guideline and to be honest, it is a very pleasurable experience painting over something and making it horrifying. As far as trypophobia goes, I use it just to fuck with people who complain about that shit. Thanks for the feedback. @morrisart on instagram.
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>>2442227
While that is all good and well surrealism doesn't represent anything nor does it have intentional symbolic themes. This is not surrealism.
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I like your overall composition and theme except for the tree that barely touches her side part, I think it could use more overlap.

I didnt like the strong blue in the sky, the image feels like is supposed to be creepy, wierd and the blue sky feels out of place.

I didnt like the rendering of the fabric and the anatomy, the tummy feels really weird to me.

I think it's fine to paint from imagination, but the fabric for example seems like you didnt fully understands how it works.

Overall I liked it but it could definetly Improve
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>>2437759
>>2442227
This is no surrealism. This is painting from fantasies.
Surrealism do not exist anymore.
>>2442272
One thing about surrealism was that the sign preceeded the signification.
Also, the painters were crazy fucks. You're not giving an image of a crazy fuck. Not to mention that you do not seems to be any kind of educated nor on symbols , nor on the reason of their using, nor on how you use them.


by the way, go check beinart for more of your kind of stuff, John Coulthart did a good job of puting them together. I like that place.
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>>2442653
I'm well aware of Beinart. Been aware since 2006. The artists on that site are what drove me to become a surrealist painter. Beinart is a surrealist art collective. There is a huge difference between Classical Surrealism (Magritte, Man Ray, Breton) and contemporary/lowbrow/pop surrealism/ ( Mark Ryden, Chet Zar, Buddy Nestor) Today, "surreal" is a very general, umbrella term which a lot of artists fall under. If it's weird, eerie, or unconventional in any way, then it can be termed Surreal. I'm actually a bit surprised to see how many people disagree on what is or isn't surrealism in an art forum. I do appreciate the dialogue and everyones comments have opened my mind a bit about how I see my work. I do agree that I have a lot of improving to do and I can see how my work can be misinterpreted. Anyways...it's been a nice thread.
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>>2442280
Thank you, that is wonderful feedback. I agree on just about everything you mentioned.
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>>2437759
it creeped me out before anything. immediately close the window in less than 0.5 seconds... I don't feel very comfortable looking at it. I'm OK with gore/creepy stuffs, but only they have something feature that is enticing enough?

I have no idea what you're doing with the theme. what's with the background? I feel like you're just going a old style. the weird mask? the moths? the scar? I can't read it really well. But even before that, maybe it's the fact that I couldn't perceive an unity between these elements that drives me insane. The character just looks like a generic Japanese horror film ghost.

As for cont. surr., I love it. I love Magritte's stuffs. They have a weird vibe but they evoke a message at least. And he is one of my fav modern artists. But this painting...? other than making me feel out of place I just get the feeling that the author only has a weird, wacky fetish.

Technically?
the fabrics/folds look like black trash bag. the trees...? cabbage leaves. body, moths and flowers look OK.
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