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Anyone experimented with deepart.io? I think it's a glimpse
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Anyone experimented with deepart.io?
I think it's a glimpse of what we can expect from computere algorithms in the future. While the results of my submission wasn't perfect, I'm still pretty impressed with it.
It's free to submit a picture but it takes several hours before it's ready. And also you only see it in low resolution as in pic related. You'll have to pay 39 euro for a 1300x1300 version which is pretty fucking ridiculous. But please try it out. Most people seem to use the site for stupid selfies. I think /ic/ can be more creative than that.
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>>2405992
>But please try it out.
are you shilling for them in a 'clever' way?
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>>2406003

No, I just want to see what other artists could come up with as opposed to the people who just want a new facebook picture. I have another image in the queue but it takes forever.
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>>2405992
I hear the algorithm is pretty weak atm, with too broad of generalizations with key concepts like overall shapes and mouths, etc.

It'll probably be pretty cool in a few years though.
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>>2406007

It's not amazing but I think the foam came out pretty cool on my test.
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>>2405992
can't wait for photobashers to bash some picture together and just randomly apply some old masters work on it.
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only way i see this being useful is to photobash some shit together, run it through deepdream to unify the style, and use that as a base to paint over
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>>2406009
True, neat foam.
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>>2405992
that shit is FREE (e.g. https://github.com/andersbll/neural_artistic_style)

you only need a decent pc with a supported nvidia card, and a ton of patience to make it actually work.
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>>2406068

Okay cool, is there a way to use it that doesn't require you to be a programmer?
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>>2405992
Who painted that image on the right? Those are some sweet creamy waves. Would copy paste into my WoW concept art piece.
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>>2406150

Ruo Li
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>>2406154
Thank you. Couldn't make out that signature.
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>>2406133
Yeah, Gurney posted about it. There's a site you can sign up to use.

http://deepart.io/login/?next=/image/submissions/
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>inb4 polish photobashers start making all their work with ai

no rules just tools right?
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>>2406183

Uh, that's the link I posted in OP? :^)
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>>2406434
I wouldn't be surprised if the polskis weren't already doing this shit. I know the akvis thing was going around but OPs image looks pretty next level, but it's hard to say from the thumb. Not clicking the link because this reeks of a shill thread, maybe the pic in op is just bs
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some that i enjoyed from looking at the site.
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>>2406566
fuck art is over lads go home
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OP here with my second attempt. Well this looks pretty garbage and shows the limits of what it can do. Is it so much to ask to get cows mounted with laser turrets? :^)
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>>2406590
It seems to just take the value pattern of one and combine it with the texture and colour of the other.
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>>2406133
there's a difference between not being a programmer and being retarded with computers. just a matter of patience and perseverance, like any problem you'll have to solve in order to become a proficient artist
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>>2406597

Well, I don't know anything about coding (and frankly I could care less about it - one can only be good at so many things) so I guess that makes me "retarded with computers" then. That url you posted might as well have been written with ancient sumerian glyphs :^)
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>Estimated waiting time: 667.0 minutes
uhh, fuck that
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I choose two random images..
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>>2406756
do it! i wanna see the results!
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>>2406787

I said "fuck it" and paid the $2. It's interesting, but I want $2 back now kthx.
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>>2406807
This is either more OPs shilling or you are extremely retarded.
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606 minutes...
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Oh well, it's time to give up art.
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>>2406604
there's so many implementations since august last year that a version for retards like us is inevitable. I tried for months to install the deep dream with animals and architecture filter, until they made that vagrant 1 click install thing.

in the meantime, this seems to be a better free non watermarked online alternative:

https://dreamscopeapp.com
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bois, have a few going at once, and you have presents to wake up too for free.
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>>2405992
>>2406068

WHAT THE FUCK
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>Latest submissions
>Almost all shitty selfies mixed with the same few paintings
Jesus. This is really cool though, I'll post mine when they're done and I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys have submitted.
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>>2406886
look closer anon..
they are ALL selfies.
apart from the rare pet.
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>>2406756
>>2406787
>>2406807
>>2406828
>>2406843

Good works ye lads. Keep this thread going.

>>2406841
Tried it with same two images as in OP. Hm, it doesn't seem to work with shapes as much. Atleast it's faster and higher resolution.
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>>2406971
you could use some more iterations, but yeah, the main problem with the online thing is that you can't play with all the parameters
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estimate time...108min...
this better not be longer as it is just an "estimate"
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>>2405992
>>2405992
don't fucking be stupid people this ruo li.
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>>2405992
That is pretty cool but i mean it's basically just really cool "some of them" photoshop filters.. we have had this for years.

Some people are really good at making there pictures look more painted even to the point of almost being able to pass off as painting doesn't really mean anything to be at the end of the day..

i don't feel intruded on if that is what is being implied.
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>>2407031

Top left is a photo and top right is a painting by Ruo Li. Bottom is the result of the deepart computer algorithm applied to the photo with Ruo Li's painting as a style guide.
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alrighty the results are in bois.
i dont really know yet if i like.
2/4 are semi satisfying.
50% hit rate imo.

dont buy this shit, just set and forget/use it for free.
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Plot twist:
>it's actually a army of chinese artists painting those pictures
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>>2407068
its just a shame/scam that it asks to charge you 60 AUD for a shitty 1300x1300 version.
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>>2407075
kek, it very well could be, it would be more than enough money for them to work
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>>2407194
I did a few but these are the only ones that turned out well. I really like this one.
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>>2407204
now make n oilpainting of that and you are golden
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These look better than 90 percent of all artists I've seen. Imagine how much better this software will get.

It seems like traditional painting from reference is gonna be automated. I guess people will always want the human element.
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>>2407207
Stuff like this might be used for concept art, or for novelty prints, but I highly doubt people are going to stop painting.
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>>2407207
Then you have some pretty shit taste and need to expose yourself to more artists.

>>2407212
All this stuff is useless gimmicky junk that impresses plebs. It's a long way off from being useful in the games/entertainment industry.
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>>2407357
woah, deepart made the reaction I have when looking at it, impressive.
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>>2406566
>>2406568
>>2406559
>>2406560
>>2407204

holy shit, this smells baaad for the art world. don't know when more of these will come out, or open source, and suddenly a lot of "artists" will pop up from nowhere.
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>>2407357
kek lost my shit

this is some /b/ tier gold
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>>2405992
Does all images become publicly available or is there an option when your image is done too keep it private or not... Not a lot of information about this on the site, as far as I can see.
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Holy fuck, how does it feel knowing that an internet app is better at art then you /ic/?
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>>2407410
Idk what part of the art world you mean but within the realms of beginners striving to learn, the motivation to obstacle ratio has been quite ass for decades
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>>2407410
Smells fine to me.

More moronic distractions and "shortcuts" producing shit tier artists who don't know fundamentals or how to create anything. Smells like more jobs for me.
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there are great starting points for style experimentation 2bh
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>>2406966
Can I have the full resolution of the top left, please?
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>>2406828
meh
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>>2406003
He's shilling
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>>2407459
this senpai.
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>>2407733
ahmed pls. there is no fucking need to be a namefag
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>>2407357
tried with a dark bg
i give up
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>>2407947
this one is cool as fuck
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Man this is bullshit. Deviantart is gonna be full of this garbage.
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>>2407410
Give it some decades and yeah I agree, for the near future I see this as yet another tool for professionals but still only a supplement to a toolbox of skills. People are always going to want specific skills and specific styles and the deepart technology is still in its infancy so we won't see professional creatives being rid of just yet.

I'd like to see people really going in to edit and tweak their results, the coloring is very impressive but it tends to positively mangle forms. Anyway the results could be separated into layers?
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>>2407459
That's what clay sculptors said when 3D modelling software started showing up.
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>>2408077
Oh wait fuck I just thought I had an idea: how could this be used in animation?

3d has been chasing the photorealism tale for ages now and 2d stagnated at flat cel coloring, imagine if deepart technlogy could be used to create more fantastical, stylized results. It could look gorgeous.
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>>2408078
a majority of movie concept and concept props are still done traditionally with clay by an actual sculptor.
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If anyone can decipher what the original image was, you earn my respect. I'll give you a hint, if you go to /a/ you've almost certainly seen it.
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>>2408184
Kazimir Malevich
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>>2408184
Little Witch Academia
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neat
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>>2408263
could you flip the source horizontaly and try again? i feel like youll get much better results the more the original matches the template layoutwise
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>>2408247
>>2408251
Nope, it's Tohsaka's anus.
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>>2408283
God dammit.
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GNU/art
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people going "meh", are you just jealous of how much better the art this algorithm produces will be than any art you ever produce in your career? this is some seriously fucking cool shit.
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It can't sakimichan
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>>2408468
where's the /ic/ version of the interjection pasta when you need it
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90's kid chaotes of course should recognize that this is from the algorithm, or spell, for the graphical representation of two concepts in synthesis and we should rightly have a field day using this to make new magick. Viva La 90s occult bullshit.
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Heres a fun game. I draw it, you mix it.
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>>2408774
how about no?
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>>2407969
kek
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>>2408579
you havent discovered photoshop filters yet, have you now? :^3
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>>2407146

That's not a crazy asking price for software, the algorithm seems a fair bit better at getting a nice results than most "paint a photo for you!" software.
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Am I the only one disgusted at how good some of those look? sigh.
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>>2408283
I can see it now kek.
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>>2408815
they only look "good" as tiny ass thumbnails, when you get the fullsize you see all the artifacts n shit
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So where are the ruan ones?
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>>2408818

It's still a very good proof of concept.

The algorithm seems quite good, it's just the finer details that need work.

I can see plenty of hacks combining a photo with this and then touching it up a little in photoshop to pass it off as their own work.
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>>2408828
thats already being done for years with filters
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>>2408828
Or this can be a great way for a legit artist to take two pieces of artwork together and make them have a baby.
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>>2408838

Yes, and this is a pretty good filter.

>>2408839

They aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>2408840
Or both
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2 dollars per painting

fuckin scam
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sugoi-lvador dali
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>>2408589
Not even a software can hack like sakimichan, kek.
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888 mins till new religion
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>>2406575
That's an irish response if ever I saw one.
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I have mixed feelings about this
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>>2409678
you have to go deeper
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>>2408817
It gave her a garterbelt, too. Deepart has some good taste.
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Having tried a few it feels really hit or miss. If it didn't take half a day to get a result it could be fun to play with.
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Interesting result
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if this works properly, I'll finally get a glimpse what my artistic goal would look like .
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>>2408774
here's a fun game you suck a dick and die
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>>2408941

WOW ITS F U C K I N N O T H I N G
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new terror cell incoming
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>just finished graduating art college
>see this thread
Who do I sue.
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>>2409804

a n i m e i s r e a l
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>>2409807
no rules
j u s t
t o o l s
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>>2409807

if a tool can replace what you do

you weren't worth the glance desu
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>>2406068
honestly seeing this makes me think that computers will never approach the true sensitivity of human artists.

the imitation of picasso is beyond weak, it doesn't understand what he's doing at all
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Do both the photos have to be the same size?
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>>2406434
Who is that girl?
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>>2409818
>it doesn't understand what he's doing at all

Swindling an entire generation of pretentious art students?
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So, how many years until I can input reference pics of my waifu and a pose and this thing spits out stylized porn of my waifu?
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>>2409848
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>>2409852
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>>2409852
It will probably take less time just to get good at drawing and then draw porn of your waifu yourself.
Good waifu btw
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>>2409852

Good taste. I can't deny that.

Though, too bad Anemone is best girl.

Sorry senpai. :^)
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this shit is fun as hell
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>>2410054

That's pretty legit actually. A lot of normies would definitely buy that as a print
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>>2408810
I dont think you understand. You do not get the program that site charges you 30 pounds for a 1300x1300 digital copy.
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>>2409818
>E-everything is fine, g-guys! T-there is no need to worry, the robots won't take our jobs!
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>>2410061
Time to make quick bux in facebook
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>>2410128
Yup. Just adjust the values a little, add hueshifts here and there, harden and blur some edges, and you should be golden.
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>>2410133
Jesus, this is sounding like a plausible idea.
Honestly considering doing it under the name of Kronrakli Nadprinz.
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>>2410142
It'd be hillarious to see peoples comments your 'work'
>this artist is sooo talented
>he's using reference, but he does it to bring across his unique creative vision
>also, he's emulating van Gogh and ruanjias painting techniques so well
>can you believe he does commissions for just 80$ a piece?
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>>2410149
fucking kek
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>>2408122
sure thing dead media man.
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It seems to work best with photographs, easily the ugliest results we've seen are when people have put in stylized artwork.

The human brain is itself is very powerful at pattern recognition so to my eye I've started picking up on the 'tells' that clue you in to, 'this is a fancy filter'. If it ever starts becoming common enough I can see people fatiguing of it (think of how awesome shitty graphics looked when you were young), so maybe what you'd want to do is mix the photograph with a simple piece, and then filter the end result a final time.
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>>2406594
I think it'a more similar to the google pictures that were released earlier. Instead of recognizing familiar things in images, it generates familiar things on images.
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Wow this thing took a long time
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>>2410687
Damn, that's spooky.
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>>2408091
The problem is that it would need longer times for each frame, plus careful choosing of what to base the "new" colours of from.

Animation was still the first thing that sprung to my mind too though.
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>>2409797
>Kozilek visits real-world Innistrad
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>>2407947
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>>2408091
>>2410819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxSerkkP4o
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>>2409808
*a n i m e i s r a e l
ftfy
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Now I never have to learn to paint. I can just have an algorithm shit out an oil painting of whatever I want.
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>>2410825
Damnit /tg/ is leaking again
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this one turned out pretty good though
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>>2411745
Holy shit man.

That means one should get better than this algorithm to get a job nowadays.
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>>2411745
aw shit. I guess I'll just kill myself.
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>>2411745
post the middleone in full res please
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>>2411934
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>>2410149
you forgot
>and he does 5-6 pieces a day, he's a speed-painting god
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>>2411741
at least it tried
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>>2411935
thanks!

>photo1
is it part of a set?
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>>2411949
>>2411935

ofc it is!
http://iconolo.gy/archive/tokyo-underwater-ei-toshinari/2445
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l i t e r a l l y
p r i n t s
m o n e y
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>>2412068
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>>2412071
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>>2411915
that's really cool. better than both originals
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>>2413027
top one looks like the slav meme guy
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>>2413027
bottom left one looks like andrew loomis
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Im scared
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neato.
i think this one is gold.
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Will abuse heavily in the future, thanks OP
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If I'm looking at it through the submissions list it seems like most people are just using this to make ugly as fuck profile pictures for their facebook accounts.

http://deepart.io/latest/

The same kind of shit you could achieve by slapping two random filters on it in photoshop.
So I guess in the hands of a capable artist it's still a lot more useful.
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>>2413668

Damn. That ass has received a spanking or two
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>>2409678
Welcome to the future!
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Let's see if we can make anime real.
Only 3 more days.
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>>2413724
>3 more days
kek

https://dreamscopeapp.com
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>>2413744
But that one is shit
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>>2413771
>bigger than thumbnail size
>no retarded logo
>immediate results
>no shekel begging

it's also exactly the same FREE software, just with different parameters, you retarded shill
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>>2413903
cant choose any picture to be the regulated style rip.
its shit F.A.M
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>>2414539
>being a shill and a retard

is the BIG button that says "choose your own"

https://dreamscopeapp.com
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made this after going over a mixed photo, proof that this shits just a tool and cant replace actual art
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dis came out coo
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>>2413724

you just gave me the thought of doing this with girls i like"s profile pic

a new breed of hentai is born
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>>2414570
you are shilling just as much i hope you realize mate
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>>2413903
just used the exact same two images as >>2413668
and the result is a shit version of the first attempt.....id rather wait 3000 min than use that half baked version.
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>>2414614
you can iterate as many times as you want. or, better yet, install the FREE software in your pc so you can fine tune all the parameters, instead of paying to the scammers.

>>2414608
YES. but shilling for a site that doesn't begs for money, instead of OP's scammy site. if you know a better online option, please let us know.

https://dreamscopeapp.com
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>>2414625

OP's site doesn't cost you a dime if you don't want it to and it gets better results than your shit, stop bitching.
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>>2414644
actually i haven't tried myself, but everything i've seem are thumbnails with a horrible logo.

>>2414625
this site gives you free 2000x2000 pics:

https://www.instapainting.com
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Is anyone else legitimately scared by this?

All these years spent trying to learn art, and this fucking thing just spits it out like nothing. People with absolutely no training can put out things that actually look GOOD.

It hurts.
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kinda cool? idk. the artifacts kill it for me
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>>2414657
No
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>>2414657
Ha.

You will never make it.
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>>2414657
Jesus anon you seriously care how many tumblr reblogs you get? Art is just about pumping likes on facebook?

If this seriously scares you that much why even draw. fuck off
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>>2414657
They don't look "good" per-say.
They look like they're retaining, to a certain degree, the style or aesthetics to warrant something as a "nice" looking piece, but it's highly evident that these are generated by a computer.

The copious amounts of distortion, blurring and artifacts in these make them look like complete ass. So much of the finer details are lost.
At most, you could use this as an assistant, for experimenting with how to achieve a certain look in your art. You could use it on a base, before adding fine details, and that might be of some use for judging how you might continue with that piece.

But I can't see it being used to straight up replace the entire process of making art.

The scenarios where the quality of these outputs would be acceptable would have to be rather niche market.
Eg. a music video where each frame of a person is painted to look like a different style.

The scenario where they will likely be used, is in things like games, where you might have something like a painting of a character on a wall, and they've just taken the lazy route and ran existing character art through a tool to generate a stylized image.
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>>2413724
UPDATE

It is surprisingly good
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>>2415543
UPDATE 2, the other way around is also surprisingly great.
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>>2414657
No. It's not even looks like drawing/painting. Even James Gurney say it's nothing
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>>2415543
>>2415549
>300x500
>big ass logo
>over 9000 hours

you should pay some shekels them for their great software goyim
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>>2415585
But I didn't pay for it.
What are you so bitter about?
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>>2415543
>>2415549
are you retarded? it looks like shit
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>>2415594
is just that these people are profiting from a open source software (http://arxiv.org/pdf/1508.06576v2), if you use ps, you already own a pc capable of run it. Is seems intrinsecally wrong.

Of couse, I understand how bussiness work, but yet.
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>>2415702
Then compile a standalone program out of that open source code.
I can't code for shit, can you?
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>>2415684
I made even more
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>>2407068
that van gogh mashup is badass
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>>2415543

dayum done mustered a rap out of meh

YO

ALL THESE /IC/ NIGGAS RUNNING PUSSYFOOT NAKED SCARED

CANT HELP BUT SCALP WHAT LITTLE MEASLEY TREATIES OUT THEY ASS

SHIT MUSTA MET A REAL NIGGA
A REAL /IC/ NIGGA
NOT PANTS DOWN ANKLES ROUND YA MOMA BASEMENT TIER ITS AN ABSTARACT KINDA FEEL

LOOMIS COCK RUN SO DEEP
UP DADDYS LITTLE HELPER
IF ONLY A LITTLE DANDRUFF FLAKE OF TALENT
THEY WOULD KNOW

TO FALL UPON THEIR UGLY FACES
MAKES ME SICK., HE CALLS HIMSELF CRITIC
NEVER EVEN GOOGLED THE WORD
NEVER EVEN SEEN HIS OWN DICK SHORTER THAN 12 INCHES

KINDA DEFLATES YA ART?
SO NEXT TIME YA BAWK BAWK BAWK
SHOW ME YA ART ART ART
WHIP YOSELF WITH YA MOMMAS BELT
YA SAD SACK OF SORRY MISTER
DONT HIT SO HARD
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>>2415722
Oh shit, that's that chick from the "ass milk on your cereal" video, isn't it?
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>>2416165
It's time to stop breathing.
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English is not my first language so I'm really curious what does artifacts means for all of you.
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>>2416165
kys m8
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>>2416323
Like arcbound ravager or mox opal. They're permanents.
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>>2416323
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_artifact
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This actually seems like a really good way to generate ideas/color palletes/etc. for an actual painting. Will use in future, thanks OP
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kek

now this is art
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>>2414657
There is absolutely nothing to worry about. This algorythm can only mix two images together - nothing more. Only a human being or a women can come up with an entirely new concept that actually mkes sense. This thing only makes "bootiful" pictures with no ideas behind them.
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>>2417819

Until we get good AI that is.
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>>2417823
When we get an AI that good, there will be no need for commercial art. It will either destroy us or make us like gods or something.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU&ab_channel=CGPGrey

What will you do when the likes of Frazetta Bot, Sargent Bot, Jia Bot and just about whatever you can think of comes to fruition in droves? Robots that can draw and paint in any style at will: there's no way to compete with that.

The only way to win is to become the robots.
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>>2418867

I predict that we will have a short honey moon period when this technology enters the scene. We will be able to hear new Mozart compositions, read personalized novels written by dead authors with ourselves as the protagonists and create an endless stream of Oscar worthy movies with any actors we like. Not to mention the possibilities with porn... Combined with virtual friends and partners, just like in the movie Her. Fuck. It will be the most awesome thing imaginable. For a while. And then we realize that we are just worthless bags of flesh that are inferior to the machines in every possible way.
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>>2418917
It's like that one episode in Kino no Tabi where there's a country that has robots that do all the work for them but the people still do busy work because they need to do something to feel alive and useful.
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>>2418917
>porn
Unwitting degeneracy will likely be punished greatly, since those in control of things like VR should eventually be capable of trapping people's minds within those realms and can fuck with them until they get tired of it along with brainwashing and reprogramming them. Kind of like pic related. I guess that would be dependent on if it becomes like fucking Skynet though.

Of course even if there isn't anything else other than the user manipulating that kind of tech, it would only get more addictive as the tech improves, and maybe you might be able to have direct input with your neural circuitry so that there's never any diminishing returns. For example, you could change your intake of dopamine to feel like you're getting the same or more amounts of pleasure and satisfaction every time you engage with that porn VR. Then you'll never get tired of it and the hedonists were right after all. It would be so easy to incapacitate and dispose of humanity with that kind of power.

There's always the Singularity, though.
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>>2409818
I think its the way they're going about it. The problem is that computer don't read into the work - so they dont read forms - they just read patterns. The algo is still amazing though and I'm sure if they learn to teach them how to read a painting in terms of form, relationships, and stuff like that.
It will happen eventually. Don't doubt it for a second and don't think you can stop it.
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>>2406434
rules are for people who know they can't compete without them
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>>2408828
Who cares? You want the world to stay as it is, to bend to your ideals, but the world moves on. Adapt or die motherfucker.
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Looks like we'll never see Cactus Jack rendered in the style of Ruan Jia.

>>2413724
Wow, I remember fapping to proxy back in the day. Now she's become an obese disease-ridden cow.
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>>2418917
>last part already happened
COOL
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>>2419102
Upload smaller images for faster times
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>>2414596
this is cool as cuck
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>>2414657
http://imgur.com/gallery/BAJ8j
yeah, you better be scared
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This thread made me depressed.

Artists already get the short end of the stick. I don't want to be replaced by a robot.

Fuck you programmers. You jackasses will be able to do literally everything in the future.
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>>2419421
>>do everything
Except actually make it "look good".
It's a poor imitation, not a perfect recreation.
There's nothing to worry about. If anything, just consider this another tool you can use to come up with ideas, that's about it.

See
>>2414796
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>>2419421
You and almost everyone else here will probably be dead/maybe gud by the time robots are able to become god artists, so I wouldn't sweat it
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photoshop filter when?

>>2406434
how copyright law would apply to this kind of filter?
is the result a derivative work from the style picture?
what about iterating several different styles until they aren recognizable?

>>2419070
i like your phrase. very quotable.
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>>2419070
yes, just like those rules about murder rape and child molestation.
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>>2419421
You're just a shit artist, or possibly a stemfag. Everything I've seen by this filter has been very predictable.
I'll worry when a machine is able to draw from scratch.
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>>2419497
exactly, statutory rape was invented by roasties who can't compete with women at their prime. murder laws were invented by affeminate weaklins
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>>2419511
I like raping boys
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>>2419070
No fuck you, pawns can't move backwards you cheater.
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>>2419598
>what is absorption chess
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>>2419102
>Now she's become an obese disease-ridden cow.
She did that triple anal video recently and I couldn't even fap to it because she's like a mozarella with a wig these days. PRIME proxy paige should've done that. Not obese disease-ridden cow proxy.
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>>2417872
Exactly. There simply will be no need for jobs, because all our needs will be solved with the AI.
Which means we'll be able to do art with no worries.
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>>2406434
someone should try it, do a super quick nasty photobash then combine it with something like a craig mullins piece or a movie still
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>>2419919
>a world full of NEETs
should buy some 4chan stock
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>>2421268
Why? There will be no need for money in utopian future, anon
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>>2415543
how did it know to put the focus on her ass?
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